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linuxyogi
May 3rd, 2018, 10:31 AM
Hi,

I am using Ubuntu 18.04.

When 18.04.1 comes out how do I upgrade my installation ?

Never done this before.

Will a apt-get dist-upgrade do it ?

Impavidus
May 3rd, 2018, 11:15 AM
Just install the normal upgrades. The point releases are nothing more than snapshots of the system at particular times. They're only relevant to the .iso images.

linuxyogi
May 3rd, 2018, 11:19 AM
Just install the normal upgrades. The point releases are nothing more than snapshots of the system at particular times. They're only relevant to the .iso images.

Understood. Thanks.

cruzer001
May 19th, 2018, 03:04 PM
So my question is do I need to do anything special like installing something manually or will with the usual

Code:

apt-get update && apt-get dist-upgrade

take me to to 18.04.1 ?

That will get you to 18.04.1; HWE will appear when 18.04.2 comes out.

missmoondog
May 19th, 2018, 03:12 PM
That will get you to 18.04.1; HWE will appear when 18.04.2 comes out.

which OP will get by simply installing normal updates also.

linuxyogi
May 19th, 2018, 03:36 PM
Thanks for the confirmation.:D

linuxyogi
May 19th, 2018, 03:48 PM
That will get you to 18.04.1; HWE will appear when 18.04.2 comes out.

Very sorry. Missed your post. So what do I need to do to reach 18.04.2 ?

cruzer001
May 19th, 2018, 03:55 PM
So what do I need to do to reach 18.04.2 ?

Wait for it :)

Point releases come out every 6 months.

linuxyogi
May 19th, 2018, 04:01 PM
Wait for it :)

Point releases come out every 6 months.

Wait for it and then run apt-get dist-upgrade ?

That's all I want to know.

I am asking again because you wrote


That will get you to 18.04.1; HWE will appear when 18.04.2 comes out.

cruzer001
May 19th, 2018, 04:11 PM
The software updater (gui) will get you there or using apt to update. Either way will install a point release when its available.

HWE will need to be installed manually when 18.04.2 comes out.

linuxyogi
May 19th, 2018, 04:17 PM
HWE will need to be installed manually when 18.04.2 comes out.

^^ This is what I am worried about. I have never done this before.

If I dont install the HWE what will I miss ?

Will I still get security updates ? Is it absolutely necessary to install HWE ?

PaulW2U
May 19th, 2018, 04:40 PM
If I dont install the HWE what will I miss ?
Newer kernel and X support.

Will I still get security updates ?
Of course, for three or five years depending on the flavour of Ubuntu that you have installed.

Is it absolutely necessary to install HWE ?
No, I never have as my systems on which I have kept an LTS release have always worked as expected. I've never needed to consider installing the HWE stack.

QIII
May 19th, 2018, 04:41 PM
Unless you need (or want) the HWE for some reason, you need not bother with it. If you just continue with your updates you will be supported until 18.04.1 reaches EOL.

If your hardware works right now, there is no reason to fix what ain't broke.

linuxyogi
May 19th, 2018, 04:46 PM
@PaulW2U (https://ubuntuforums.org/member.php?u=1078994) @QIII (https://ubuntuforums.org/member.php?u=628170)

That's a relief. Thanks a lot


(https://ubuntuforums.org/member.php?u=628170)

cruzer001
May 19th, 2018, 05:44 PM
If I dont install the HWE what will I miss ?

Will I still get security updates ? Is it absolutely necessary to install HWE ?

The current kernel version that you are running is supported for the entire life of 18.04. Thats 5 years. It is not necessary to run HWE unless the need arises for maybe new hardware that is better supported with a newer kernel. My equipment runs fine on the current kernel, I have no need for HWE.

linuxyogi
May 19th, 2018, 05:45 PM
The current kernel version that you are running is supported for the entire life of 18.04. Thats 5 years. It is not necessary to run HWE unless the need arises for maybe new hardware that is better supported with a newer kernel. My equipment runs fine on the current kernel, I have no need for HWE.

Got it. Thanks.

missmoondog
May 21st, 2018, 02:59 AM
Newer kernel and X support.

Of course, for three or five years depending on the flavour of Ubuntu that you have installed.

No, I never have as my systems on which I have kept an LTS release have always worked as expected. I've never needed to consider installing the HWE stack.

I have never had HWE installed on any of my systems until just before 18.04 came out. Just happened to get a new computer and burned the last point release of 16.04 and saw that installed it automatically. didn't see or notice any difference. the HWE kernel will show up in synaptic under new in repository after reloading. you have to choose to install it manually.

just thought i'd voice my experience even though i saw thread was marked as solved. :)

linuxyogi
August 7th, 2018, 01:59 PM
Hi,

I am on


$ lsb_release -a
No LSB modules are available.
Distributor ID: Ubuntu
Description: Ubuntu 18.04.1 LTS
Release: 18.04
Codename: bionic

When I run ubuntu-support-status I get


$ ubuntu-support-status
Support status summary of 'ubuntu':

You have 1688 packages (88.4%) supported until April 2023 (Canonical - 5y)
You have 145 packages (7.6%) supported until April 2021 (Community - 3y)

You have 0 packages (0.0%) that can not/no-longer be downloaded
You have 76 packages (4.0%) that are unsupported


Run with --show-unsupported, --show-supported or --show-all to see more details

I am using Ubuntu 18.04 and not K/X/Lubuntu etc. So why the 3 years support period instead of 5 ?

What are these ? I installed them from the official repos (no PPAs)


$ ubuntu-support-status --show-unsupported
Support status summary of 'ubuntu':

You have 1688 packages (88.4%) supported until April 2023 (Canonical - 5y)
You have 145 packages (7.6%) supported until April 2021 (Community - 3y)

You have 0 packages (0.0%) that can not/no-longer be downloaded
You have 76 packages (4.0%) that are unsupported


No longer downloadable:


Unsupported:
conky-all firejail firejail-profiles gimp gimp-data gkrellm handbrake
hexchat hexchat-common hexchat-perl hexchat-plugins hexchat-python3
libaudclient2 libavcodec-extra libavcodec-extra57 libbabl-0.1-0
libbonobo2-0 libbonobo2-common libbonoboui2-0 libbonoboui2-common
libdata-random-perl libgegl-0.3-0 libgimp2.0 libgnome-2-0
libgnome2-canvas-perl libgnome2-common libgnome2-gconf-perl
libgnome2-perl libgnome2-vfs-perl libgnome2-wnck-perl
libgnomecanvas2-0 libgnomecanvas2-common libgnomeui-0
libgnomeui-common libgnomevfs2-0 libgnomevfs2-common
libgnomevfs2-extra libgsasl7 libgsoap-2.8.60 libgtk2-imageview-perl
libgtk2-unique-perl libgtkimageview0 libhttp-server-simple-perl
libimage-magick-perl libimage-magick-q16-perl libkyotocabinet16v5
liblinear-tools libmailutils5 libmouse-perl libnet-dropbox-api-perl
libnet-oauth-perl libntlm0 liborbit-2-0 libpath-class-perl
libproc-processtable-perl libproc-simple-perl libsort-naturally-perl
libtorrent-rasterbar9 libwww-mechanize-perl
libx11-protocol-other-perl libxmmsclient6 mailutils mailutils-common
ndiff nethogs pwgen qbittorrent shutter spectre-meltdown-checker
spideroakone virtualbox virtualbox-dkms virtualbox-qt winff
winff-data winff-gtk2

deadflowr
August 7th, 2018, 04:57 PM
I am using Ubuntu 18.04 and not K/X/Lubuntu etc. So why the 3 years support period instead of 5 ?

What are these ? I installed them from the official repos (no PPAs)

It tells you those are from the universe (community) repositories.
Only the packages from Canonical (main) are guaranteed 5 years of support.
I don't know if those universe packages are all only supported for 3 years, or if 3 years is just a generic catchall for all universe packages in the ubuntu-support-status command.
Meaning maybe some of those packages have longer support times, and some maybe have shorter support times.
In the past I've seen packages in universe supported for 9 months, 18 months, 3 years, 1 year, and 5 years, so...

FTR: the unsupported package list doe not necessarily mean unsupported, but only that support is indeterminate.
Basically it means there is no data within the packages metadata information about support time.

linuxyogi
August 7th, 2018, 05:28 PM
In that case I will upgrade within 3 years coz using obsolete packages is something I want to avoid.