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steve169
March 22nd, 2017, 09:51 PM
I'm running Windows 7 and Ubuntu 16.04.02 on the same hard drive.

A third partition, formatted NTFS, stores data from both operating systems.

When I installed Ubuntu, it automatically formatted its partition as ext4.

However, if I can install it with an ext3 format, my Norton Ghost 15 will be able to back up both Windows and Ubuntu.

(1) Is it all right to run Ubuntu 16.04.02 in an ext3 partition?

(2) Can I back up my present installation, reformat the partition to ext3, then restore the backup?

SeijiSensei
March 22nd, 2017, 09:54 PM
Yes, you can. A lot of the differences have to do with maximum file sizes and the like. For details, see http://askubuntu.com/questions/44908/what-is-the-difference-between-ext3-ext4-from-a-generic-users-prespective

My virtual servers at Linode are running ext3 without any difficulties.

steve169
March 23rd, 2017, 03:45 AM
Dear SejiSensei,

Thanks. I now need an answer to a other questions:

1. Can I back up my present installation using dd, reformat the partition to ext3, then restore the backup?

2. Is there a better way?

oldfred
March 23rd, 2017, 03:10 PM
I would stay with ext4 and find a better backup solution.
While reduce performance of Linux just to use one tool.
Ext4 has continued development since releases. Not sure if any fixes to ext3 other than outright bugs.

discussion of alternatives/strategy backups
https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BackupYourSystem
https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CategoryBackupRecovery
http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2236636
http://askubuntu.com/questions/2596/comparison-of-backup-tools
If you install your own system you are the system admin
Sysadmins: Everything they told you about backup WAS A LIE
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2013/07/12/storagebod_monomyth/
http://www.smallnetbuilder.com/nas/nas-features/31745-data-recovery-tales-raid-is-not-backup

sudodus
March 23rd, 2017, 03:50 PM
ext3 is not a good alternative.

Use Clonezilla (http://clonezilla.org) instead of Norton Ghost. It can clone and create compressed image files of partitions with ext4 as well as of NTFS and FAT file systems.

But oldfred is linking to many other alternatives for backup. So look closely at several alternatives before you decide what to use. :-)

vanadium
March 23rd, 2017, 05:36 PM
For a home user, I do not recommend spending resources in a system backup. Rather spend all that effort in maintaining good backups of your personal data.

- Personal data are unique. When lost, it is lost forever. Your data may also have great emotional value, e.g. pictures.
- Operating systems come for free, in many flavours, and install in less than an hour, slightly more time than the time needed to restore an image. Moreover, the image of your system is quickly outdated.

You have a nice dual boot setup, with a dedicated partition for data storage. Make sure all your personal data are on that partition. Then have a good routine for backing up that data regularly to an external drive.

Such data backups can be incremental. First time, it takes a lot of time because all data need to be copied. Next time, it takes only a minute because only the changed files are backed up (the more you have worked for the day, the longer it will take :lolflag:).

In Linux, you can conveniently access data from within your home directory irrespective of where it is stored. For this, you replace your regular "Documents", "Pictures" folders by symbolic links, that link to the real location of the data. For the end user (you), these symbolic links behave exactly as a real folder.

steve169
March 23rd, 2017, 05:37 PM
Thanks to all of you. I'll stick with ext4 and keeping working on a backup routine.

RobGoss
March 23rd, 2017, 11:07 PM
If you have resolved your issue you can mark this thread as solved, you can do this by using the Thread tool at the top of this post

Thanks so much