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forrestcupp
June 6th, 2007, 08:40 PM
Maybe instead of adding to this thread, we just need to make it a sticky and close it. Then people can read and reread the thread from the beginning and see every side of the argument about 25 times repeated.

aysiu
June 6th, 2007, 09:15 PM
Maybe instead of adding to this thread, we just need to make it a sticky and close it. Then people can read and reread the thread from the beginning and see every side of the argument about 25 times repeated.
No, because then what happens is that someone inevitably posts yet another "Why all the religious editions?!!! Why? This is bad! Religion and OSes don't go together!" and you either have to close that too and then deal with all the "this is censorship" backlash or keep it open, in which case, no one is going to read the 50-page thread and then think they're original, and then it just keeps going again.

handy
June 7th, 2007, 12:19 AM
I call bullhockey.

If someone spends their time altering the code to suit their needs and throws up a web shingle for it, that's the whole point of open source. You have access to the code, and you can do pretty much anything you want with it.

If I want to create Tubuntu, a distribution for really smart toasters, then the only thing standing in my way is my development skills and my time.

Each and every distribution, even the weird personal projects, simply illustrates the beauty of open source as a development model.

One of the coolest things I have seen recently was Cl33n, a distibution that boots a PC, sets up an internet connection, and runs Firefox. That's it. Awesome idea, and that sort of thing sets off a torrent of other ideas. That sort of development does not happen in closed source, and the fact that one person saw the need and put it together shows that there was a need for it, even if the market size=1.

So apparently, the thing stopping people is the narrowmindedness of the Ubuntu community towards these new distributions. That is a shame, since I always found this to be the most open of the bunch.

The fact that Linux Mint, Ubuntu Studio, and all the others that are springing up exist is because someone saw the need, and decided to put in the time. Developing a niche distro is giving back something to open source, since it takes a significant amount of time and effort to pull off successfully.

UbuntuCE, ME, and Jubuntu (or whatever it is called) do more than just put a couple of new applications on Ubuntu: they extend Ubuntu into non-technical communities. How is that different from Edubuntu?

Doesn't really matter though: developers that want to create something can always use Fedora, OpenSUSE, Gentoo, PCLinuxOS, or 100 other distros as a base. Get the point? Arrogance breeds irrelevance in the open source world. There is tons of code available, and Ubuntu is not the only viable base.

Embrace the diaspora. Each one is an asset to the Ubuntu community.

Beautifuly said Justin!


No, because then what happens is that someone inevitably posts yet another "Why all the religious editions?!!! Why? This is bad! Religion and OSes don't go together!" and you either have to close that too and then deal with all the "this is censorship" backlash or keep it open, in which case, no one is going to read the 50-page thread and then think they're original, and then it just keeps going again.

You of all people know that we are slow learners Aisiu. :)

Cows
June 7th, 2007, 04:25 PM
The Jewish community hasn't made a Jubuntu, because they're smart. Why reinvent the wheel when someone's already giving away a free one that works just fine?

Ubuntu CE (Christian Edition), in my opinion, is not necessary. That's like making a Hammer CE, or Saw CE. Ubuntu is merely a tool that all sorts of folks can use. I don't see the need to make all these "editions" that merely come pre-loaded with certain packages. If you want that, then just make a small "Automatix" type script thing that lets the users quickly and easily load on the "Christian" or whatever stuff you'd like them to have.

EG:

Step 1) get Ubuntu
Step 2) install Ubuntu
Step 3) use my CE script to install the Christian stuff

I guess that's just too many steps for some.... I'm not trying to be a jerk here, but I'm just getting annoyed at all the versions of Ubuntu that keep coming out, and I'm not just picking on CE. Seriously, do we need an Ubuntu Studio Edition? It's loaded with some multimedia packages. Whoopee. Make a script and publish that. Let everyone start with vanilla X/K/Ubuntu, then use your script to tweak it to a different flavor.

I'm sure if I'm missing some special additional features that these involve, somebody will give me a flaming earful. LOL!

This is true you can just make a script after modifying the ubuntu. Let's say you mod the ubuntu and make your own repo. Make your script add repo to sources.list get the key and install the NAMEbuntu-desktop. But It's also true as someone posted, the point of having the distro on one disk is so that its easier for people to work with. You don't need to waste your time downloading. As I read more and more I learned that this is OSS life. the freedom of open source lets you do anything, and if you are a true lover of OSS then you wouldn't have a problem with other people having and using there freedom rights.

handy
June 8th, 2007, 01:07 AM
The effects of insecurity on the concept of feedom is really entertaining:

Do what ever you like, just do it my way!

Cows
June 8th, 2007, 02:51 AM
That's pretty much windows logo

"Do it my way, or no way !"

http://youtube.com/watch?v=O2GyGv-RqFM

_narayan
June 8th, 2007, 03:10 AM
The effects of insecurity on the concept of feedom is really entertaining:

Do what ever you like, just do it my way!

werd

jusmurph
June 8th, 2007, 09:39 AM
The effects of insecurity on the concept of feedom is really entertaining:

Do what ever you like, just do it my way!

Indeed.

Enverex
June 8th, 2007, 09:42 AM
The effects of insecurity on the concept of feedom is really entertaining:

Do what ever you like, just do it my way!

Guess you kinda just ignored any of the reasons anyone presented and thought living in ignorance would be easier. Ironic for a semi-religious thread.

loserboy
June 9th, 2007, 12:16 AM
Was just looking over the backyard and thought I would hop in and say....


how is this possibly still going?

keep up the good work CE, and remember with this many people arguing about it you know you have something good on your hands. :)

that's all, I have nothing useful to say... I still haven't seen an argument properly settled in a forum.

Enverex
June 9th, 2007, 12:22 AM
and remember with this many people arguing about it you know you have something good on your hands. :).

Sorry, I should let this thread go, but the amount of outright ridiculas phrases popping up just makes me cringe. People argued/argue about slavery, war, poverty, etc, does it mean all those things are good? *sigh* People, if you're going to back something, please give reasons, not silly phrases.

loserboy
June 9th, 2007, 01:25 AM
haha.... well I was just playing around but if you wanna be a jerk about it as a matter of fact I was just talking to Jereme, saying "Jereme, you have something good".

I didn't say "everything that's ever been argued over is a good thing", and it would be taken out of context to assume that.

but you're right, you really should let this thread go :)

now stop trying to drag me into this, because you're the person that always has a negative response to everything I say in backyard which is why I usually stay away from here.

If you want a good reason just look at all that have been given, but that's not enough for you.

here's a good one that's already been said: If there's enough people that want a different flavor, then they should have it, it shouldn't have to go to Enverex's commitee to see if it should just be a package installed seperately.

handy
June 9th, 2007, 01:33 AM
Guess you kinda just ignored any of the reasons anyone presented and thought living in ignorance would be easier. Ironic for a semi-religious thread.

As I have stated in other threads; I believe that humanity needs to, & ultimately will grow beyond religion. That is not an anti spiritual statement. It is an anti organised intermediary, which places itself between man & the creative energy/consciousness (unnameable).

I believe that religion has long since served its purpose in the developement of humantity & now is causing far more trouble than it is helping humanity.

You may think I'm living in ignorance, that's ok, that's your freedom of choice, which by the way I defend. :)

I don't believe your post has any merit at all, if anything you just sound angry?

Enverex
June 9th, 2007, 01:37 AM
My comment wasn't... meh, everything I say seems to get misinterpreted so nevermind. I'll stay out of the thread.

handy
June 9th, 2007, 01:57 AM
My comment wasn't... meh, everything I say seems to get misinterpreted so nevermind. I'll stay out of the thread.

Misinterpretation is a BIG problem in forums! No need to stop posting in them though. I have learned a lot from your posts, please continue?

WaeV
June 10th, 2007, 04:31 AM
I think making versions of ubuntu with different default applications is great. It gets people involved in their operating system. Plus it would be easier for someone who say always dumps nautilus in favor of thunar.

Nano Geek
September 28th, 2007, 05:01 PM
As I have stated in other threads; I believe that humanity needs to, & ultimately will grow beyond religion.I probably shouldn't bring this back up, but why do you believe that?

SonicSteve
September 29th, 2007, 01:37 PM
As I have stated in other threads; I believe that humanity needs to, & ultimately will grow beyond religion. That is not an anti spiritual statement. It is an anti organised intermediary, which places itself between man & the creative energy/consciousness (unnameable).

?

I once heard (and I believe it) that the opposite of organization is confusion and chaos. While it is sometimes true that the very organizations like the Christian Church can sometimes hinder your relationship with God/energy/conciousness. Without organization I propose that it would be nigh impossible to know the real God. You seem to coming from the standpoint that all the religions have it wrong about who God is. While if it is true that one of them has it right, that one of them was established by God then as much as there are imperfections in the organization because of man's selfishness it could still be teaching the truth at most levels.

Please take this as humbly as possible, just throwing in what might be helpful

merci_b
September 29th, 2007, 10:00 PM
Of course anyone who wishes to create there own version of Ubuntu would be free to do so, but I personally feel that creating a version for a particular religious group is bad for not just Ubuntu, but for the Open Source community as well, because this particular religion contains doctrines that are offensive to some people ( e.g. gay people ). Almost all religions in the world contain doctrines that are offensive to groups of people, and hence making such derivatives would divide people rather than being them together.

Roobitz
October 7th, 2007, 04:35 AM
Is there an atheist distribution of ubuntu anywhere? I'd be very interested in this.

aysiu
October 7th, 2007, 05:12 AM
Is there an atheist distribution of ubuntu anywhere? I'd be very interested in this.
This is the only reference that comes up in a Google search:
Ubuntu Atheist Edition? (http://nextbit.blogspot.com/2006/08/ubuntu-atheist-edition.html)

I'm all for it, if atheists think it's worth the effort. Why not? If it serves a purpose to at least one person, great.

mhancoc7
October 7th, 2007, 09:48 AM
Just curious, but why is the thread allowed to be in the Community Cafe. Every time I start a thread dealing with religion it is pushed to the Backyard.

Jereme

Dimitriid
October 7th, 2007, 07:01 PM
I don't see the point of Xubuntu, Kubuntu, and Edubuntu either. After all, you can just install Ubuntu and add educational applications, right?

More appz are not counterproductive to the diversity Ubuntu wants. Religious dogma is.

aysiu
October 7th, 2007, 07:02 PM
Just curious, but why is the thread allowed to be in the Community Cafe. Every time I start a thread dealing with religion it is pushed to the Backyard.

Jereme
This subforum (recurring discussions) is a new subforum and didn't exist at that previous time.

mhancoc7
October 7th, 2007, 11:12 PM
This subforum (recurring discussions) is a new subforum and didn't exist at that previous time.

Oh ok, thanks for the info.

Jermee

julian67
October 7th, 2007, 11:32 PM
This is the only reference that comes up in a Google search:
Ubuntu Atheist Edition? (http://nextbit.blogspot.com/2006/08/ubuntu-atheist-edition.html)

I'm all for it, if atheists think it's worth the effort. Why not? If it serves a purpose to at least one person, great.

well my previous post in response to this got deleted/moved to jail and got me an infraction for offending people's religious sensibilities so here's the tip toe over eggshells version. I was happy with what i wrote previously because I don't think religious beliefs deserve special preferential protection or awe/respect but apparently that's what they get. I'm making a serious point btw.

Linux and Gnu are built on sound rational principles. They have to work without the help of faith and prayer and invisible omnipotent entites such as spirits, gods, angels and other such ephemera. So you can consider all distros to be fundamentally atheist, even the Christian Edition, because they directly arise from empirical scientific progress which flatly contradicts almost every significant aspect of any religious belief you might care to mention, and just as importantly for hundreds of years (and still ongoing) has been resisted and suppressed by religious authorities across the world. This is factual. Good examples of advances in knowledge that religious authorities have tried to (and still try to ) suppress that spring to mind would be the works of Copernicus, Galileo and Darwin. Anything that has arisen and survived and been developed and evolved on the basis of reason and logic and empirical enquiry can be considered atheist in the broad sense because (in Christian cultures at least) if religious authorities had prevailed we would still be liable to severe penalties (including torture and death) for asserting that the Earth is not the centre of the universe, that it rotates on its axis, that it orbits the sun and so on. It's extremely hard to imagine that we would be living in a technological age if religious authorities had prevailed. Even Windows gets my vote on this one, though I seem to remember you needed a little faith and hope when booting it and some charity when it BSOD'd.

Nano Geek
October 7th, 2007, 11:45 PM
well my previous post in response to this got deleted/moved to jail and got me an infraction for offending people's religious sensibilities so here's the tip toe over eggshells version. I was happy with what i wrote previously because I don't think religious beliefs deserve special preferential protection or awe/respect but apparently that's what they get. I'm making a serious point btw.But no matter what, you aren't allowed to insult people's beliefs like that.
Check the forum's CoC for reference.


Linux and Gnu are built on sound rational principles. They have to work without the help of faith and prayer and invisible omnipotent entites such as spirits, gods, angels and other such ephemera. So you can consider all distros to be fundamentally atheist, even the Christian Edition, because they directly arise from empirical scientific progress which flatly contradicts almost every significant aspect of any religious belief you might care to mention, and just as importantly for hundreds of years (and still ongoing) has been resisted and suppressed by religious authorities across the world. This is factual. Good examples of advances in knowledge that religious authorities have tried to (and still try to ) suppress that spring to mind would be the works of Copernicus, Galileo and Darwin. Anything that has arisen and survived and been developed and evolved on the basis of reason and logic and empirical enquiry can be considered atheist in the broad sense because (in Christian cultures at least) if religious authorities had prevailed we would still be liable to severe penalties (including torture and death) for asserting that the Earth is not the centre of the universe, that it rotates on its axis, that it orbits the sun and so on. It's extremely hard to imagine that we would be living in a technological age if religious authorities had prevailed. Even Windows gets my vote on this one, though I seem to remember you needed a little faith and hope when booting it and some charity when it BSOD'd.Of course you can't expect your computer to work just because you prayed that it would work. And it's silly to think that it would.

You said that we would have never made it to a technological age if "religious authorities had prevailed." Actually, NASA was founded by a Christian man. Back during the times of Copernicus and Galileo, the Church was almost like a country of it's own, and had become corrupted. But that was then and this is now. Plus, the Bible never said anywhere that the Earth was the center of the universe, that was just the church leaders idea and I don't think anyone seriously believes that now.

julian67
October 8th, 2007, 12:14 AM
But no matter what, you aren't allowed to insult people's beliefs like that.
Check the forum's CoC for reference.



I didn't say anything untrue. i didn't even say anything that isn't demonstrably true and easily verified with 5 minutes with a history book or an encyclopedia. But someone religious complained that their religious feeling was injured and my post was removed and I got an infraction. This isn't solely an issue with ubuntuforums which is one of the better moderated places, it's a society wide thing. Religious feeling is given a special status (where I live there are still laws against blasphemy), that is a person can assert all kinds of very strange and unsupportable things and insist on being taken seriously if it is claimed as religious activity. Asserting the same things in a non religious context invites derision, avoidance and possibly incarceration. For example I might assert that an invisible all knowing being has dictated to me that I must kill/enslave/expel certain types of person, such as homosexuals or people of a different race or who don't believe in the voice I hear, or people who hear different voices giving different instructions. This generally would be called psychosis and I could expect an involuntary stay in a secure medical facility to result from it. If however I stand in a pulpit and offer it as the word of God it becomes acceptable and there are even laws to protect my rights to say these things and to suppress those who criticise.

If you look at the history of technology and science, religion has always been the principal obstacle and religious authorities the enemy of progress. The freedoms arising from free software could not exist in a world where the freedom to state a simple fact is denied wherever it contradicts an unverifiable irrational belief (aka faith). That's why I say even Ubuntu CE is an atheist distro....its very existence is a flat rebuttal to all the religious feeling it is supposed to appeal to. Though personally I would not make it my 1st choice :lolflag:

Nano Geek
October 8th, 2007, 01:08 AM
I didn't say anything untrue. i didn't even say anything that isn't demonstrably true and easily verified with 5 minutes with a history book or an encyclopedia. But someone religious complained that their religious feeling was injured and my post was removed and I got an infraction. This isn't solely an issue with ubuntuforums which is one of the better moderated places, it's a society wide thing. Religious feeling is given a special status (where I live there are still laws against blasphemy), that is a person can assert all kinds of very strange and unsupportable things and insist on being taken seriously if it is claimed as religious activity. Asserting the same things in a non religious context invites derision, avoidance and possibly incarceration. For example I might assert that an invisible all knowing being has dictated to me that I must kill/enslave/expel certain types of person, such as homosexuals or people of a different race or who don't believe in the voice I hear, or people who hear different voices giving different instructions. This generally would be called psychosis and I could expect an involuntary stay in a secure medical facility to result from it. If however I stand in a pulpit and offer it as the word of God it becomes acceptable and there are even laws to protect my rights to say these things and to suppress those who criticise. You really don't know what you are saying if you believe that Christians claim to hear voices that tell them to kill people at random.
Read you Bible or go to church if you want answers.


If you look at the history of technology and science, religion has always been the principal obstacle and religious authorities the enemy of progress. The freedoms arising from free software could not exist in a world where the freedom to state a simple fact is denied wherever it contradicts an unverifiable irrational belief (aka faith). That's why I say even Ubuntu CE is an atheist distro....its very existence is a flat rebuttal to all the religious feeling it is supposed to appeal to. Though personally I would not make it my 1st choice :lolflag:Reread my previous post. I think it answers your questions.

julian67
October 8th, 2007, 01:29 AM
You really don't know what you are saying if you believe that Christians claim to hear voices that tell them to kill people at random.
Read you Bible or go to church if you want answers.

Reread my previous post. I think it answers your questions.

I didn't mention Christians, you just assumed that. Also i didn't mention randomness. And I was offering a general example, "For example" was the clue for that one. But never mind. Perhaps you might like to read your bible again paying particular attention this time to episodes of cruelty and violence. To help you here are references, btw these are just the ones that are promoted/endorsed/directed by god and his agents, the bad guys don't get a look in.


Genesis

1. Because God liked Abel's animal sacrifice more than Cain's vegetables, Cain kills his brother Abel in a fit of religious jealousy. 4:8

2. God is angry. He decides to destroy all humans, beasts, creeping things, fowls, and "all flesh wherein there is breath of life." He plans to drown them all. 6:7, 17

3. God repeats his intention to kill "every living substance ... from off the face of the earth." But why does God kill all the innocent animals? What had they done to deserve his wrath? It seems God never gets his fill of tormenting animals. 7:4

4. God drowns everything that breathes air. From newborn babies to koala bears -- all creatures great and small, the Lord God drowned them all. 7:21-23

5. God tells Abram to kill some animals for him. The needless slaughter makes God feel better. 15:9-10

6. Hagar conceives, making Sarai jealous. Abram tells Sarai to do to Hagar whatever she wants. "And when Sarai dealt hardly with her, she fled." 16:6

7. Lot refuses to give up his angels to the perverted mob, offering his two "virgin daughters" instead. He tells the bunch of angel rapers to "do unto them [his daughters] as is good in your eyes." This is the same man that is called "just" and "righteous" in 2 Peter 2:7-8. 19:7-8

8. God kills everyone (men, women, children, infants, newborns) in Sodom and Gomorrah by raining "fire and brimstone from the Lord out of heaven." Well, almost everyone -- he spares the "just and righteous" Lot and his family. 19:24

9. Lot's nameless wife looks back, and God turns her into a pillar of salt. 19:26

10. God threatens to kill Abimelech and his people for believing Abe's lie. 20:3-7

11. Sarai tells Abraham to "cast out this bondwoman and her son." God commands him to "hearken unto her voice." So Abraham abandons Hagar and Ishmael, casting them out into the wilderness to die. 21:10-14

12. God orders Abraham to kill Isaac as a burnt offering. Abraham shows his love for God by his willingness to murder his son. But finally, just before Isaac's throat is slit, God provides a goat to kill instead. 22:2-13

13. Abraham shows his willingness to kill his son for God. Only an evil God would ask a father to do that; only a bad father would be willing to do it. 22:10

14. Dinah, the daughter of Jacob, is "defiled" by a man who seems to love her dearly. Her brothers trick all of the men of the town and kill them (after first having them all circumcised), and then take their wives and children captive. 34:1-31

15. "The terror of God was upon the cities that were round about them." 35:5

16. "And Er, Judah's firstborn, was wicked in the sight of the Lord; and the Lord slew him." What did Er do to elicit God's wrath? The Bible doesn't say. Maybe he picked up some sticks on Saturday. 38:7

17. After God killed Er, Judah tells Onan to "go in unto they brother's wife." But "Onan knew that the seed should not be his; and ... when he went in unto his brother's wife ... he spilled it on the ground.... And the thing which he did displeased the Lord; wherefore he slew him also." This lovely Bible story is seldom read in Sunday School, but it is the basis of many Christian doctrines, including the condemnation of both masturbation and birth control. 38:8-10

18. After Judah pays Tamar for her services, he is told that she "played the harlot" and "is with child by whoredom." When Judah hears this, he says, "Bring her forth, and let her be burnt." 38:24

19. Joseph interprets the baker's dream. He says that the pharaoh will cut off the baker's head, and hang his headless body on a tree for the birds to eat. 40:19
Exodus

20. Moses murders an Egyptian after making sure that no one is looking. 2:11-12

21. God threatens to kill the Pharaoh's firstborn son. 4:23

22. God decides to kill Moses because his son had not yet been circumcised. 4:24-26

23. God will make sure that Pharaoh does not listen to Moses, so that he can kill Egyptians with his armies. 7:4

24. "And the Egyptians shall know that I am the LORD." Who else could be so cruel and unjust? 7:5, 17

25. God tells Moses and Aaron to smite the river and turn it into blood. 7:17-24

26. The fifth plague: all cattle in Egypt die. 9:2-6

27. The sixth plague: boils and blains upon man and beast. 9:9-12

28. "For I will at this time send all my plagues upon thine heart, and upon thy servants, and upon thy people; that thou mayest know that there is none like me in all the earth." Who else but the biblical god could be so cruel? 9:14

29. The seventh plague is hail. "And the hail smote throughout the land of Egypt all that was in the field, both man and beast." 9:22-25

30. These verses clearly show that the mass murder of innocent children by God was premeditated. 11:4-6 (see 12:29-30)

31. God will kill the Egyptian children to show that he puts "a difference between the Egyptians and Israel." 11:7

32. God explains to Moses that he intends to "smite all the firstborn in the land of Egypt, both man and beast. 12:12

33. After God has sufficiently hardened the Pharaoh's heart, he kills all the firstborn Egyptian children. When he was finished "there was not a house where there was not one dead." Finally, he runs out of little babies to kill, so he slaughters the firstborn cattle, too. 12:29

34. To commemorate the divine massacre of the Egyptian children, Moses instructs the Israelites to "sacrifice to the Lord all that openeth the matrix" -- all the males, that is. God has no use for dead, burnt female bodies. 13:2, 12, 15

35. After hardening Pharaoh's heart a few more times, God drowns Pharaoh's army in the sea 14:4-28

36. Moses and the people sing praises to their murderous god. 15:1-19

37. "The Lord is a man of war." Indeed, judging from his acts in the Old Testament, he is a vicious warlike monster. 15:3

38. God's right hand dashes people in pieces. 15:6

39. If you do what God says, he won't send his diseases on you (like he did to the Egyptians). But otherwise.... 15:26

40. Joshua, with God's approval, kills the Amalekites "with the edge of the sword." 17:13

41. "The Lord has sworn [God swears!] that the Lord will have war with Amalek from generation to generation." 17:14-16

42. Any person or animal that touches Mt. Sinai shall be stoned to death or "shot through." 19:12-13

43. Like the great and powerful Wizard of Oz, nobody can see God and live. 19:21

44. God gives instructions for killing and burning animals. He says that if we will make such "burnt offerings," he will bless us for it. What kind of mind would be pleased by the killing and burning of innocent animals? 20:24

45. A child who hits or curses his parents must be executed. 21:15, 17

46. An eye for an eye and a tooth for a tooth. 21:24-25

47. If an ox gores someone, "then the ox shall surely be stoned." 21:28

48. If an ox gores someone due to the negligence of its owner, then "the ox shall be stoned, and his owner shall be put to death.". 21:29

49. If an ox gores a slave, the owner of the ox must pay the owner of the slave 30 shekels of silver, and "the ox shall be stoned." 21:32

50. "Thou shalt not suffer a witch to live." Thousands of innocent women have suffered excruciating deaths because of this verse. 22:18

51. "Whosoever lieth with a beast shall surely be put to death." Is it really necessary to kill such people? Couldn't we just send them to counseling or something? 22:19

52. "He who sacrificeth unto any god, save unto the Lord only, he shall be utterly destroyed." If this commandment is obeyed, then the four billion people who do not believe in the biblical god must be killed. 22:20

53. If you make God angry enough, he will kill you and your family with his own sword. 22:24

54. "The firstborn of thy sons thou shalt give unto me." (As a burnt offering?) 22:29

55. God promises to "send his fear before the Israelites" and to kill everyone that they encounter when they enter the promised land. 23:27

56. Moses has some animals killed and their dead bodies burned for God. Then he sprinkles their blood on the altar and on the people. This makes God happy. 24:5-8

57. Get some animals, kill them, chop up their bodies, wave body parts in the air, burn the carcasses, and sprinkle the blood all around -- in precisely the way God tells you. It may well make you sick, but it makes God feel good. 29:11-37

58. Have your killed and offered your bullock for a sin offering today? How about the two lambs you are supposed to offer each day? 29:36-39

59. Wash up or die. 30:20-21

60. Moses burned the golden calf, ground it into powder, and then forced it down the throats of all the people. 32:20

61. Whoever puts holy oil on a stranger shall be "cut off from his people." 30:33

62. Those who break the Sabbath are to be executed. 31:14

63. God asks to be left alone so that his "wrath may wax hot" and he can "consume them. 32:10

64. God orders the sons of Levi (Moses, Aaron, and the other members of their tribe that were "on the Lord's side") to kill "every man his neighbor." "And there fell of the people that day about 3000 men." 32:27-28

65. But God wasn't satisfied with the slaughter of the 3000, so he killed some more people with a plague. 32:35

66. If you can't redeem him, then just "break his neck." Hey, it's all for the glory of God. 34:20

67. Whoever works, or even kindles a fire, on the Sabbath "shall be put to death." 35:2-3
Leviticus

68. God gives detailed instructions for performing ritualistic animal sacrifices. such bloody rituals must be important to God, judging from the number of times that he repeats their instructions. Indeed the entire first nine chapters of Leviticus can be summarized as follows: Get an animal, kill it, sprinkle the blood around, cut the dead animal into pieces, and burn it for a "sweet savor unto the Lord." Chapters 1 - 9

69. "Flay the burnt offering; cut it into pieces." 1:6

70. Burn the head, fat, and entrails for "a sweet savour unto the Lord." 1:8-9

71. "Kill it and sprinkle blood round about." 1:11, 3:2, 3:8, 3:13

72. "Cut it into pieces and burn it for a sweet savour unto the Lord." 1:12-13

73. "Wring off its head and burn it." 1:15

74. "For a sweet savour unto the Lord." 1:17

75. "Part it in pieces... it is a meat offering." 2:6

76. "It is a thing most holy of the offerings of the LORD made by fire." 2:10

77. What to do with the fat, kidneys, and liver of your burnt offerings. 3:3-4, 3:9-10, 3:14-16

78. "Kill the bullock before the Lord and take of the bullock's blood." 4:4

79. "The priest shall dip his finger in the blood and sprinkle the blood seven times before the Lord." 4:6, 4:17

80. "Pour all the blood at the bottom of the altar." 4:7

81. What to do with the fat, kidneys, liver, skin, head, entrails, and dung from your burnt offerings. 4:8-11

82. "The bullock shall be killed before the Lord." 4:14

83. "Kill it and pour out the blood." 4:24-25

84. "Slay it for a sin offering, pour out the blood, and burn the fat for a sweet savour unto the Lord." 4:29-31

85. Slay it for a sin offering, put the blood on your finger, and pour out the blood at the bottom of the altar. 4:33-34

86. Wringing off the heads of pigeons for God. 5:8-9

87. Kill the sin offering before the Lord. "It is most holy." 6:25

88. The holy law of trespass offering: Find an animal; kill it; sprinkle the blood around; offer God the fat, rump, kidneys, and caul; burn and eat it in the holy place, for "it is most holy." 7:1-6

89. The priest must sprinkle the blood of the peace offerings. 7:14

90. Be careful what you eat during these animal sacrifices. Don't eat fat or blood -- these are for God. (And he doesn't like to share!) 7:18-27

91. God gives instructions for "wave offerings" and "heave offerings." He says these offerings are to be made perpetually "by a statute for ever." Have you made your heave offering today? 7:30-36

92. Moses does it all for God. First he kills an animal; wipes the blood on Aaron's ears, thumbs, and big toes. Then he sprinkles blood round about and waves the guts before the Lord. Finally he burns the whole mess for "a sweet savour before the Lord." 8:14-32

93. More killing, sprinkling of blood, waiving animal parts, and burning carcasses "before the Lord." 9:2-21

94. Kill the calf, dip your finger in the blood, sprinkle the blood round about, burn the fat and entrails, and wave the breast for a wave offering before the Lord. 9:8-21

95. Two of the sons of Aaron "offered strange fire before the Lord" and "there went out fire from the Lord, and devoured them, and they died before the Lord." 10:1-3

96. If priests misbehave at the tabernacle by uncovering their heads, tearing their clothes, leaving with holy oil on them, or by drinking "wine or strong drink", then God will kill them and send his wrath on "all the people." 10:6-9

97. After a woman gives birth, a priest must kill a lamb, pigeon, or dove as a sin offering. This is because having children is sinful and God likes it when things are killed for him. 12:6-8

98. God's law for lepers: Get two birds. Kill one. Dip the live bird in the blood of the dead one. Sprinkle the blood on the leper seven times, and then let the blood-soaked bird fly off. Next find a lamb and kill it. Wipe some of its blood on the patient's right ear, thumb, and big toe. Sprinkle seven times with oil and wipe some of the oil on his right ear, thumb and big toe. Repeat. Finally kill a couple doves and offer one for a sin offering and the other for a burnt offering. 14:2-32

99. God "put the plague of leprosy" into the houses of the Canaanites. 14:34

100. God explains the use of scapegoats. It goes like this: Get two goats. Kill one. Wipe, smear, and sprinkle the blood around seven times. Then take the other goat, give it the sins of all the people, and send it off into the wilderness. 16:6-28

101. Sprinkle the blood and burn the fat for a sweet savour unto the Lord. 17:6

102. If you upset God, he'll cause the land to vomit you out. 18:25

103. "Whosoever shall commit any of these abominations ... shall be cut off from among their people." 18:29, 19:8

104. Don't eat sacrifices on the third day or God will cut you off from among your people. 19:6-8

105. Kill anyone who "gives his seed" to Molech. If you refuse, God will cut you and your family off. 20:2-5

106. "For every one that curseth his father or his mother shall surely be put to death." Couldn't we try spanking first? 20:9

107. Both parties in adultery shall be executed. 20:10

108. If a man has sex with his father's wife, kill them both. 20:11

109. If a man "lies" with his daughter-in-law, then both must be killed. 20:12

110. If a man has sex with another man, kill them both. 20:13

111. If you "lie" with your wife and your mother-in-law (now that sounds fun!), then all three of you must be burned to death. 20:14

112. If a man or woman "lie with a beast" both the person and the poor animal are to be killed. 20:15-16

113. People with "familiar spirits" (witches, fortune tellers, etc.) are to be stoned to death. 20:27

114. A priest's daughter who "plays the *****" is to be burned to death. 21:9

115. God gives us more instructions on killing and burning animals. I guess the first nine chapters of Leviticus wasn't enough. He says we must do this because he really likes the smell -- it is "a sweet savour unto the Lord." 23:12-14, 18

116. Don't do any work on the day of atonement or God will destroy you. 23:29-30

117. A man curses and blasphemes while disputing with another man. Moses asks God what to do about it. God says that the whole community must stone him to death. "And the children of Israel did as the Lord and Moses commanded." 24:10-23

118. Anyone who blasphemes or curses shall be stoned to death by the entire community. 24:16

119. God tells the Israelites to make slaves out of their neighbors and their families. The "heathens" and "strangers" are to be their possessions forever. 25:44-46

120. God tells the Israelites to "chase" their enemies and make them "fall before you by the sword." He figures five of the Israelites will be able to "chase" a hundred of their enemies, and a hundred will be able to "put ten thousand to flight." 26:7-8

121. God describes the torments that he has planned for those who displease him. The usual stuff: plagues, burning fevers that will consume the eyes, etc. but he reserves the worst for the little children. He says "ye shall sow your seed in vain, for your enemies shall eat it," "I will send wild beasts among you, which shall rob you of your children," and "ye shall eat the flesh of your sons and daughters." 26:16-39

122. All "devoted" things (both man and beast) "shall surely be put to death." 27:28-29
Numbers

123. God shows his hospitality with the admonition: "The stranger that cometh nigh shall be put to death." 1:51, 3:10, 3:38

124. Two of Aaron's sons are killed by God for "offering strange fire before the Lord." 3:4

125. Don't touch or "go in to see when the holy things are covered." God kills people who touch or look at covered holy things. 4:15, 20

126. God tells the people to expel from camp "every leper, every one that hath an issue, and whoever is defiled by the dead." So by God's instructions, the sick are abandoned and left to suffer and die alone. 5:1-4

127. "And when the people complained, it displeased the Lord: and the Lord heard it." (He had his hearing aid on.) He then burned the complainers alive. That'll teach them. 11:1

128. "And wile the flesh [of the quails] was yet between their teeth, ere it was chewed, the wrath of the Lord was kindled against the people, and the Lord smote the people with a very great plague. "The Bible isn't too clear about what these poor folks did to upset God so much; all it says is that they had "lusted." 11:33

129. Miriam and Aaron (Moses' brother and sister) criticize Moses for marrying an Ethiopian woman and thus breaking the law of God. But God makes it clear that his rules don't apply to his favorites, and he strikes Miriam with leprosy. Notice that only Miriam is punished, though both she and Aaron complained. 12:1, 9-10

130. More plagues and pestilence sent by God. God repeats one of his favorite promises: "your carcasses shall fall in this wilderness." 14:12, 29, 14:32-37

131. God punishes the children for the failings of their great-great grandfathers. 14:18

132. God killed those that murmured against him with a plague. 14:36-37

133. God gives more instructions for the ritualistic killing of animals. The smell of burning flesh is "a sweet savour unto the Lord." 15:3, 13-14, 24

134. The Israelites find a man picking up sticks on the sabbath. God commands them to kill him by throwing rocks at him. 15:32-36

135. Because of a dispute between Korah and Moses, God has the ground open up and swallow Korah, Dathan, and Abiram "and their wives, and their sons, and their little children." Then, just for the hell of it, God has a fire burn to death 250 "men that offered incense." 16:20-35

136. After God killed Korah, his family, and 250 innocent bystanders, the people complained saying, "ye have killed the people of the Lord." So God, who doesn't take kindly to criticism, sends a plague on the people. And "they that died in the plague were 14,700." 16:41-50

137. God threatens to kill those who murmur. To which the people reply, "Behold, we die, we perish, we all perish .... Shall we be consumed with dying?" 17:12-13

138. Stay away from holy things and places -- like churches. God might have to kill you if you get too close.18:3, 22, 32

139. God shows us how to make new friends by saying : "The stranger that cometh nigh shall be put to death." 18:7

140. God describes once again the procedure for ritualistic animal sacrifices. such rituals must be extremely important to God, since he makes their performance a "statute" and "covenant" forever. 18:17-19

141. The purification of the unclean. These absurd rituals, cruel sacrifices, and unjust punishments are vitally important to God. They are to be "a perpetual statute" for all humankind. 19:1-22

142. "And the Lord hearkened to the voice of Israel, and delivered up the Canaanites; and they utterly destroyed them and their cities." This verse demonstrates the power of prayer: If you ask God, he will destroy entire cities for you. 21:3

143. God sends "fiery serpents" to bite his chosen people, and many of them die. 21:6

144. God delivers the Amorites into Moses' hands. (You're in God hands with Moses.) So Moses does the usual thing, killing everyone "until their was none left alive." 21:34-35

145. God's people will kill like a lion and then "drink the blood of the slain." 23:24

146. God, who is as strong as a unicorn, will eat up the nations, break their bones, and then pierce them through with his arrows. What a guy! 24:8

147. After the people "commit whoredom with the daughters of Moab," Moses has them all killed. Then God tells Moses to hang their dead bodies up in front of him; God says that this will satisfy him. 25:1-5

148. When one of the Israelite men brings home a foreign woman, "Phinehas (Aaron's grandson) sees them and throws a spear "through the man .. and the woman through her belly." This act pleases God so much that "the plague was stayed from the children of Israel." But not before 24,000 had died. 25:6-9

149. For impaling the interracial couple, God rewards Phinehas and his sons with the everlasting priesthood. 25:10-13

150. God tells Moses how to care for his neighbors by saying: "Vex the Midianites, and smite them." 25:16-17

151. The ground swallow Korah and his companions and a fire consumes 250 men. 26:10

152. "And Nadab and Abihu died when they offered strange fire before the Lord." When you go camping avoid making any unusual fires. 26:61

153. In these chapters, God provides ridiculously detailed instructions for the ritualistic sacrifice of animals. The burning of their dead bodies smells great to God. Eleven times in these two chapters God says that they are to him a "sweet savour." 28 - 29

154. Under God's direction, Moses' army defeats the Midianites. They kill all the adult males, but take the women and children captive. When Moses learns that they left some live, he angrily says: "Have you saved all the women alive? Kill every male among the little ones, and kill every woman that hath known man by lying with him. But all the women children, that have not known a man by lying with him, keep alive for yourselves." So they went back and did as Moses (and presumably God) instructed, killing everyone except for the virgins. In this way they got 32,000 virgins -- Wow! (Even God gets some of the booty -- including the virgins.) 31:1-54

155. God killed all the Egyptian firstborn. 33:4

156. God tells Moses to exterminate the residents of Canaan and destroy all of their religious symbols and possessions. 33:50-52

157. But if the Israelites don't kill them all, then God will make them pricks in their eyes and thorns in their sides. And he will do unto the Israelites as he planned to do to the inhabitants of Canaan. 33:55-56

158. "The revenger of blood" must murder the murderer just as soon as he sees him. 35:19, 21

159. When a murder is committed the blood pollutes the land. The only way to cleanse it is to spill more blood by killing the killer. 35:30, 33
Deuteronomy

160. "The Lord destroyed them before them" -- the general treatment of the people who were supposedly displaced by the Israelites. 2:21-22

161. All nations shall be terrorized by the followers of Yahweh. 2:25

162. God hardened the heart of the king of Heshbon and so that he could have him and all of his people killed. 2:30

163. At God's instructions, the Israelites "utterly destroyed the men, women, and the little ones" leaving "none to remain." 2:33-36

164. The Israelites, with God's help, kill all the men, women, and children of every city. 3:3-6

165. When going to war, don't be afraid. God is on your side; "he shall fight for you." 3:22

166. God destroyed the followers of Baalpeor. 4:3

167. God brought the Israelites out of Egypt "by war ... and by great terrors." 4:34

168. If someone makes an image of anything (like a bird or flower) then God will destroy the entire nation. 4:25-26

169. If you worship the wrong god, God will get jealous and kill you. 6:15

170. God instructs the Israelites to kill, without mercy, all the inhabitants (strangers) of the land that they conquer. 7:2

171. If you do show any mercy to such strangers, "give your daughters to any of them, or "take" any of their daughters, then you'll get God so angry that he'll "destroy thee suddenly." 7:4

172. God will kill those who hate him. 7:10

173. God commands his people to "consume all the people which the Lord thy God shall deliver thee; thine eye shall have no pity on them." 7:16

174. God will send hornets to kill your enemies, "for the Lord thy God is among you, a mighty God and terrible." 7:20-23

175. "If thou do at all forget the LORD thy God, and walk after other gods ... ye shall surely perish." 8:19-20

176. God is "a consuming fire" that destroys people. 9:3

177. "The blood of sacrifices shall be poured out ... and thou shalt eat the flesh." Isn't this the sort of thing that Satanists are accused of doing? 12:27

178. Kill those of other faiths. 12:30

179. Prophets and dreamers are to be executed if they say or dream the wrong things. 13:1-5

180. If your brother, son, daughter, wife, or friend tries to get you to worship another god, "thou shalt surely kill him, thine hand shall be first upon him to put him to death." 13:6-10

181. If you hear of a city where another god is worshiped, then destroy everyone in the city (even the cattle) and burn it down. (Watch out Salt Lake!) 13:12-16

182. Kill everyone who has religious beliefs that are different from your own. 17:2-7

183. Anyone who will not listen to a priest or a judge must be executed. 17:12-13

184. False prophets are to be (you guessed it) executed. How do you know who is a false prophet? By whether or not their predictions come true. (Watch out Jehovah's Witnesses!) 18:20

185. Murderers and perjurers are to be executed -- "and thine eye shall not pity" them. 19:11-13, 18-21

186. "And thine eye shall not pity. Life for life, eye for eye, tooth for tooth, hand for hand, foot for foot." 19:21

187. God travels with people and fights in their wars. 20:4

188. In the cities that god "delivers into thine hands" you must kill all the males (including old men, boys, and babies) with "the edge of the sword .... But the women ... shalt thou take unto yourself." 20:13

189. "But of the cities ... which the Lord thy God doth give thee for an inheritance, thou shalt save alive nothing that breatheth." Kill the old men and women, the sick and the dying, the blind and the lame, pregnant mothers, nursing mothers, infants, toddlers, and babies. 20:16

190. If you find a dead body and don't know the cause of death, then get all the elders together, cut off the head of a heifer, wash your hands over its body, and say our hands have not shed this blood. (That'll do it!) 21:1-8

191. If you have a "stubborn and rebellious son," then you and the other men in your neighborhood "shall stone him with stones that he die." 21:18-21

192. Hang on trees the bodies of those who are "accursed of God." They make nice decorations. 21:22

193. If a man marries, then decides that he hates his wife, he can claim she wasn't a virgin when they were married. If her father can't produce the "tokens of her virginity" (bloody sheets), then the woman is to be stoned to death at her father's doorstep. 22:13-21

194. "If a man be found lying with a woman married to a husband, then they shall both of them die." 22:22

195. If a betrothed virgin is raped in the city and doesn't cry out loud enough, then "the men of the city shall stone her to death." 22:23-24

196. Legal disputes are settled by a judge who determines guilt or innocence. No lawyers or jury are needed. Those found guilty will be beaten with 40 stripes. 25:1-3

197. If two men fight and the wife of one grabs the "secrets" of the other, "then thou shalt cut off her hand" and "thine eye shall not pity her." 25:11-12

198. God commands the Israelites to "blot out the rembrance of Amalek from under heaven." A few hundred years later God orders Saul to kill of the Amalekites "both man and woman, infant and suckling." (1 Sam.15:2-3) 25:19

199. If you don't obey all of the laws that are given in the Old Testament, God shower you with the curses that are given in the next 52 verses. 28:16-68

200. "Cursed shall be the fruit of thy body." 28:18

201. God will send you "cursing, vexing, the pestilence, consumption, fever, inflammation, extreme burning, the sword, blasting, and mildew." 28:20-22

202. "And thy carcass shall be meat to all the fowls of the air." 28:25-26

203. "The Lord will smite thee with the botch of Egypt, and the emerods [hemorrhoids], and with the scab, and with the itch, whereof thou canst be healed. The Lord will smite thee with madness, and blindness, and astonishment of heart." 28:27-28

204. "Thine ox shall be slain before thine eyes." 28:31

205. Thy sons and thy daughters shall be given unto another people." 28:32

206. You will be enslaved and driven mad in another country. 28:33-34

207. "The Lord will smite thee in the knees, and in the legs, with a sore botch that cannot be healed, from the sole of thy foot unto the top of thy head." 28:35

208. You will be ruled by other nations, forced to serve other gods, become a laughingstock among your neighbors, have your crops destroyed by locusts, your vines eaten by worms, and have fruitless olive trees. 28:36-40

209. "Thou shalt begat sons and daughters, but thou shall not enjoy them; for they shall go into captivity." 28:41

210. "All these curses shall come upon thee ... and upon thy seed for ever." 28:48-49

211. God will enslave you and destroy you with hunger, thirst, hardship, and all kinds of deprivation. 28:48-52

212. "And thou shalt eat the fruit of thine own body, the flesh of thy sons and of thy daughters." 28:53-55

213. "The tender and delicate woman" will be forced to eat her own children "that cometh out from between her feet." 28:56-57

214. If you don't do as God says he'll send plagues to torment and destroy you. 28:58-64

215. "The LORD shall give thee there a trembling heart, and failing of eyes, and sorrow of mind." 28:65-67

216. God will have you sold to your enemies -- but even they won't buy you. 28:68

217. If you serve the gods of other nations, "all the curses that are in this book" will fall upon you. 29:18-20

218. "And the Lord will put all these curses upon thine enemies." See Dt.28:16-64 for some of the curses God has in mind. 30:7

219. Moses tells the people that God will destroy all the inhabitants of the lands that they pass through. 31:3

220. When God gets mad -- watch out! He'll starve you to death, burn you with fire, and send vicious beasts to devour you. He'll "destroy both the young man and the virgin, the suckling also with the man of gray hairs." Not even the helpless and innocent are spared by this psychotic God. 32:21-26

221. God says, "To me belongeth vengeance, and recompense ... for the day of their destruction is at hand." 32:35

222. God says, "I kill ... I wound ... I will make my arrows drunk with blood, and my sword shall devour flesh." Someone should take his sword and arrows away, at least until he's feeling better. 32:39-43
Joshua

223. "And the city shall be accursed ... and all that therein, to the Lord: only Rahab the harlot shall live." God explains that Rahab is to be spared since she hid Joshua's spies and lied to those who were searching for them (2:4-5). But why was everyone else killed? Some of them were probably liars too. 6:17

224. "And they utterly destroyed all that was in the city, both man and woman, young and old, and ox, and sheep, and ***, with the edge of the sword." 6:21

225. After killing everyone, "they burnt the city with fire, and all that was therein." Only the valuables (silver, gold, brass, and iron) did they keep to "put into the treasury of the house of the Lord." 6:24

226. Joshua says that those who try to rebuild Jericho will be accursed by God, and will have to sacrifice both their oldest and their youngest sons in its construction. Well, Jericho still exists today, and is often considered to be the world's oldest, continuously occupied city. 6:26

227. God tells Joshua to kill whoever tood "the accursed thing." 7:10-12

228. If you happen to see "the accursed thing," don't touch it. If you do, you, your family, and all of your animals must be burned. 7:15

229. "And Joshua ... took Achan ... and his sons, and his daughters, and his oxen, and his sheep... And all of Israel stoned them with stones, and burned them with fire, after they had stoned them with stones." This is because Achan "took of the accursed thing" -- whatever that means. But why would God require that Achan's sons and daughters (and even his animals) be stoned to death along with him? The Bible doesn't say. But it does tell us that "the Lord turned from the fierceness of his anger" when Achan, his children, and his animals were stoned to death and their dead bodies burned. 7:24-26

230. "When ye have taken the city [Ai] ... ye shall set the city on fire: according to the commandment of the LORD. 8:8

231. Joshua and his army, per God's instructions, slaughter "all the inhabitants of Ai." 8:22-26

232. Joshua hangs the king of Ai on a tree until evening. 8:29

233. After Joshua kills all the inhabitants of Ai, burns their city, and hangs their king on a tree, he kills some animals and burns them as a "peace offering" to his warlike God. 8:31

234. God curses the Gibeonites to be slaves of the Jews forever. 9:21-27

235. God slaughters the Amorites and even chases them "along the way" as they try to escape. Then he sends down huge hailstones and kills even more of them. 10:10-11

236. In a divine type of daylight savings time, God makes the sun stand still so that Joshua can get all his killing done before dark. 10:12-13

237. God tells Joshua to "pursue after your enemies and smite the hindmost of them." (Kick their butts.) Don't let any of them escape "for the Lord your God hath delivered them into your hand." 10:19

238. Joshua tells his captains to "put your feet upon the necks of these kings." He says, "thus shall the Lord do to all of your enemies." Then Joshua kills the kings and hangs them on trees. 10:24-26

239. Joshua, at God's command, kills everyone and everything that he can find (including babies and little children)-- or, as the Bible puts it, he "utterly destroyed all that breathed, as the Lord commanded." 10:28-32

240. God delivers the Hazorites into Joshua's hand, and he knows just what to do with them: he smites them all with (you guessed it) the edge of the sword until "there was not any left to breathe." 11:6-17

241. "And Joshua did unto them as the LORD bade him: he houghed their horses." 11:9

242. "For it was of the Lord to harden their hearts, that they should come against Israel in battle, that he might destroy them utterly." Notice that God hardens their hearts so that he can have an excuse to kill them. 11:20

243. Caleb offers to give his daughter to whoever conquers the city of Debir. Caleb's nephew wins the contest and is given his cousin for a prize. 15:16-17

244. "Did not Achan son of Zerah commit a trespass in the accursed thing, and wrath fell on all the congregation of Israel?" To find out see Joshua 7:1-26. 22:20

245. God is jealous and will never forgive you for your sins. "He will turn and do you hurt, and consume you." 24:19-20
Judges

246. God appoints Judah to succeed Joshua. The Lord delivers his foes into his hands and another 10,000 are slain. In the process, they capture Adonibezek and "cut off his thumbs and great toes." Nice guys. 1:2-6

247. "They slew the Canaanites that inhabited Zephath, and utterly destroyed it ... And the Lord was with Judah." (You can tell by the number of innocent people he killed.) 1:17, 19

248. The Israelite spies killed everyone in Bethel, except for the man (and his family) who showed them how to enter the city. 1:25

249. Ehud delivers a "message from God" to the king of Moab. God's message consists of a knife thrust so deeply into the king's belly that it could not be extracted, "and the dirt came out." Just another lovely Bible story. 3:15-22

250. God "delivers" more folks into the hands of his chosen people. "And they slew of Moab ... about 10,000 men ... and their escaped not a man." 3:28-29

251. Shamgar kills 600 Philistines with an ox goad. Praise God. 3:31

252. "The Lord discomfited Sisera ... with the edge of the sword ... and there was not a man left." 4:15-16

253. Jael (our heroine) offers food and shelter to a traveler (Sisera, Jabin's captain), saying "turn in my Lord ... fear not." Then after giving him a glass of milk and tucking him in, she drives a tent stake through his head. "So God subdued on that day Jabin." 4:17-23

254. For murdering her guest while he slept, Jael is "blessed above women." (Hail Jael, full of grace, the Lord is with thee. Blessed art thou among women....?) 5:24-26

255. "So let all thine enemies perish, O Lord." (Let them all have their temples pierced by blessed women.) 5:31

256. When Gideon and his water-lapping companions blow their trumpets, God forces all the enemy soldiers to kill each other, killing 120,000. 7:22, 8:10

257. Two princes are killed and their heads are brought to Gideon. 7:25

258. For refusing to feed him and his army, Gideon tears the flesh off the elders of Succoth and kills the men of the city. 8:7, 16

259. Gideon orders his son to kill two kings, but he refuses. So Gideon has to do it himself since his son isn't "man" enough to do it. 8:20

260. Abimelech kills 69 brothers "upon one stone." (He was trying to get in the Guinness Book of World Records.) 9:5

261. God sends evil spirits that cause humans to deal treacherously with each other. 9:23-24

262. God smites Sihon and all his people and gives their land to Israel. 11:21

263. "Whomsoever the LORD our God shall drive out from before us, them will we [the Israelites] possess." 11:24

264. When "the spirit of the Lord" comes upon Jephthah, he makes a deal with God: If God will help him kill the Ammonites, then he (Jephthah) will offer to God as a burnt offering whatever comes out of his house to greet him. God keeps his end of the deal by providing Jephthah with "a very great slaughter." But when Jephthah returns, his nameless daughter comes out to greet him (who'd he expect, his wife?). Well, a deal's a deal, so he delivers her to God as a burnt offering -- after letting her spend a couple of months going up and down on the mountains bewailing her virginity. 11:29-39

265. 42,000 men are killed because someone mispronounces "shibboleth." 12:6

266. Samson rips up a young lion when "the spirit of the Lord came mightily upon him." Later, when going to "take" his Philistine wife he notices a swarm of bees and honey in the lion's carcass (a Divine miracle -- or just rotting flesh and maggots?). 14:5-8

267. "And the spirit of the Lord came upon him [Samson], and he ... slew thirty men." (Samson might have been a decent person if he could have kept the spirit of the Lord off him.) 14:19

268. Samson catches 300 foxes, ties their tails together, and sets them on fire; the Philistines burn Samson's ex-wife and father-in-law; and Samson smites them "hip and thigh with a great slaughter." 15:4-8

269. "The spirit of the Lord came mightily upon" Samson and "he found a new jawbone of an *** ... and took it, and slew 1000 men therewith." 15:14-15

270. Samson, with God's help, kills himself and 3000 Philistine men and women by causing a roof to collapse, setting an example for Bible-based terrorism. 16:27-30

271. The Danites massacre the "quiet and secure" people of Laish. 18:27

272. After taking in a traveling Levite, the host offers his virgin daughter and his guest's concubine to a mob of perverts (who want to have sex with his guest). The mob refuses the daughter, but accepts the concubine and they "abuse her all night." The next morning she crawls back to the doorstep and dies. The Levite puts her dead body on an *** and takes her home. Then he chops her body up into twelve pieces and sends them to each of the twelve tribes of Israel 19:22-30

273. God tells the Israelites to send the tribe of Judah into battle and 22,000 men were killed by the Benjamites. 20:18, 21

274. God tells Phinehas to fight against the Benjamites, saying he will deliver them into his hand. So the Israelites kill some more people for God. 20:38-41

275. God tells them to go to battle again and another 18,000 are killed. 20:23, 25

276. God helps the Israelites kill 25,100 Benjamites. 20:35

277. The Israelites killed everyone in the city with the edge of the sword. 20:37

278. Another 25,000 Benjamites are killed by the God-assisted Israelites. 20:44, 46

279. The Israelites finish their massacre of the Benjamites by killing all the men, animals, and everything they could find in every Benjamite city. Then they burned the cities to the ground. (In this way God helped the Israelites make everything better after the rape and dismemberment of the concubine.) 20:48

280. To find wives for the Benjamites (they were unwilling to use their own daughters), the other tribes attacked and killed all occupants of a city except for the young virgins. These virgins were then given to the Benjamites for wives. 21:7-23
1 Samuel

281. "The Lord killeth ..." -- every chance he gets. 2:6, 2:25

282. "The adversaries of the Lord shall be broken to pieces; out of heaven shall he thunder upon them." If God doesn't like you, he'll send a thunderstorm your way to break your body into little pieces. 2:10

283. God will kill those who sin against him. 2:25

284. If you **** him off, God will cut off your arm, consume your eyes, grieve your heart, and kill your sons and grandfathers. 2:31-34

285. God will punish Eli's descendants forever for the sins of Eli's sons. 3:12-13

286. God smites the people of Ashdod with hemorrhoids "in their secret parts." 5:6-12

287. God kills 50,070 men for looking into the ark. "And the people lamented, because the Lord had smitten many of the people with a great slaughter." 6:19

288. "I make a covenant with your, that I may thrust out all your right eyes." Deals like this can only be found in the Bible. 11:2

289. "And the spirit of God came upon Saul ... and he took a yoke of oxen, and hewed them in pieces, and sent them throughout all the coast of Israel." People do the darnedest things when the spirit of God comes upon them! 11:6-7

290. "Saul ... slew the Ammorites unto the heat of the day." Then he took a little break. After all, killing is hard work. 11:11

291. God delivers the Philistines into Jonathan's hand. And his very "first slaughter ... was about twenty men." Not bad for a first slaughter. 14:12

292. Under God's influence, the Philistines killed each other. 14:20

293. But later, Saul and his army kill all of those who had not already been killed. 14:36

294. God orders Saul to kill all of the Amalekites: men, women, infants, sucklings, ox, sheep, camels, and asses. Why? Because God remembers what Amalek did hundreds of years ago. 15:2-3

295. Saul killed everyone but Agag (the king) and the best of the animals. But still God was furious with Saul for not killing everything as he had been told to do. He said, "it repenteth me that I have set Saul up to be king." 15:7-26

296. Saul is rebuked by Samuel for "doing evil in the sight of the Lord" by failing to kill all of the Amalekites. 15:18-19

297. Because Saul didn't kill everyone as God commanded, God changes his mind about him being king. 15:23-26

298. To please God, Samuel hacks Agag in pieces "before the Lord" [I bet God enjoyed that!] -- after Agag pleads with him saying, "surely the bitterness of death has past." 15:32-34

299. After God rejects Saul for refusing to kill indiscriminately, he sends Samuel to find another king. David is chosen and anointed by Samuel, and "the spirit of the Lord came upon him from that day forward." 16:13

300. The evil spirit from the Lord
"But the spirit of the Lord departed from Saul [since he was not murderous enough for God], and an evil spirit from the Lord troubled him." But if God is good, then how could he have an evil spirit? 16:14-16, 23

301. David kills Goliath with his sling, beheads him, and carries the head back to Jerusalem. 17:51-57

302. David and Saul have a contest to see who can kill the most people for God, and the women act as cheerleaders saying, "Saul has killed his thousands, and David his tens of thousands." 18:6-7, 21:11, 29:5

303. David kills 200 Philistines and brings their foreskins to Saul to buy his first wife (Saul's daughter Michal). Saul had only asked for 100 foreskins, but David was feeling generous. 18:25-27

304. "David went out, and fought with the Philistines, and slew them with a great slaughter." 19:8

305. Saul kills 85 priests of Nob and all men, women, children, and animals in the city of Nob. 22:18-19

306. "David inquired of the Lord, saying, Shall I go and smite these Philistines? And the Lord said unto David, Go, and smite the Philistines ... So David smote them with a great slaughter." 23:2-5

307. David vows to kill "any that pisseth against the wall." 25:22, 34

308. "And it came to pass about ten days after, that the Lord smote Nabal, that he died." This was convenient for David who then took his property and his wife, Abigail. 25:38

309. "And David smote the land and left neither man nor woman alive." (No wonder God liked David so much!) 27:8-11

310. Saul visits a woman with a "familiar spirit" and she brings Samuel back from the dead. Samuel once again explains that God is angry at Saul for not killing all of the Amalekites. He says God is going to deliver all of Israel into the hands of the Philistines. (Since Saul refused to slaughter innocent people, God will slaughter the Israelites. Fair is fair.) 28:8-19

311. David spends the day killing more of those pesky Amalekites. They are completely wiped out again. (See 1 Sam.15:7-8, 20 and 27:8-9 for the last two times that they were exterminated.) 30:17
2 Samuel

312. David tells one of his "young men" to kill the Amalekite messenger who claimed to have mercifully killed Saul at Saul's own request. 1:15

313. Joab and Abner watch as the young men "play" a cruel game. "And they caught every one his fellow by the head, and thrust his sword in his fellow side, so they fell down together." 2:14

314. Abner smites Asahel "under the fifth rib." 2:23
(It seems that in 2 Samuel this is the preferred place to get smitten. 3:27, 4:6, 20:10)

315. When Joab (David's captain) kills Abner (by smiting him under the fifth rib of course), David says that he and his kingdom are not responsible. The blame, he says, lays with Joab. So David curses Joab, his family, and their descendants forever. Let them all be plagued with venereal diseases and leprosy, starve to death, commit suicide, or lean on staves. (The Revised Standard Version translates "leaneth on a staff" as "holds a spindle," apparently meaning effeminate -- real men don't spin or weave.) 3:27-29

316. Some of David's men kill Saul's son (by smiting him under the fifth rib, of course) and bring his head to David, thinking that he'll be pleased. But he wasn't. David has the assassins killed, their hands and feet chopped off, and their bodies hung up (for decorations?) over the pool in Hebron. 4:6-7

317. Whoever kills the lame and the blind will be David's "chief and captain." 5:8

318. "David ... grew great, and the LORD God of hosts was with him." 5:10

319. David asks God if he should kill some more Philistines. God says yes, and he'll even help. So David and God "smote the Philistines" again. 5:19, 25

320. Uzzah tries to keep the ark from falling off the cart, and God kills him for it. I guess it was God's way of saying Thanks. 6:6-7

321. David kills two thirds of the Moabites and makes the rest slaves. He also cripples the captured horses. 8:2-4

322. "David slew of the Syrians two and twenty thousand men ... and the Lord preserved David withersoever he went." 8:5-6, 14

323. David tells Joab (his captain) to send Bathsheba's husband (Uriah) to "the forefront of the hottest battle ... that he may be smitten and die." In this way, David gets another wife. 11:15, 11:17, 11:27

324. To punish David for having Uriah killed, God kills Bathsheba's baby boy. 12:14-18

325. David saws, hacks, and burns to death all the inhabitants of several cities. Maybe this is what is meant by "the tender mercies of David" (Acts 13:34). 12:31

326. Absalom has his servants kill his brother for raping his sister. (This chapter, which includes incest, rape, murder, should be rated NC-17.) 13:28-29

327. Poor Absalom gets his head caught in an oak tree, and before he can get free, Joab thrusts three darts through his heart. 18:14

328. Amasa is viciously slaughtered by Joab, who "shed out his bowels to the ground ... And Amasa wallowed in blood in the midst of the highway." 20:10, 12

329. "And they cut off the head of Sheba ... and cast it out to Joab." 20:21-22

330. A famine is sent on David's kingdom for three years. When David asks God why, God answers: "It is for Saul, and his bloody house, because he slew the Gibeonites. "So God sent a famine to punish a kingdom for something that a former king had done. 21:1

331. To appease God and end the famine that was caused by his predecessor (Saul), David agrees to have seven of Saul's sons killed and hung up "unto the Lord." 21:6-9

332. "He teacheth my hands to war." Might as well learn from an expert. 22:35

333. "Thou hast also given me the necks of mine enemies." 22:41

334. The chief of David's captains killed with his own spear 800 guys at one time. 23:8

335. God offers David a choice of punishments for having conducted the census: 1) seven years of famine ( 1 Chr.21:1 says three years), 2) three months fleeing from enemies, or 3) three days of pestilence. David can't decide, so God chooses for him and sends a pestilence, killing 70,000 men (and probably around 200,000 women and children). 24:13
1 Kings

336. In David's last words, he commands his son Solomon to murder Joab. 2:1-9

337. Solomon has his brother (Adonijah) murdered. 2:24-25

338. Solomon carries out the deathbed instructions of his father David by having Joab murdered. 2:29-34

339. Solomon justifies the murder of Joab by saying that Joab also was a murderer, and that the blood of Joab's victims "shall therefore return upon the head of Joab, and upon the head of his seed for ever." 2:33

340. But Solomon is not done murdering yet. He has Shimei murdered -- or as Solomon put it, "The Lord shall return thy wickedness upon thine own head." 2:44, 46

341. When the ark of the covenant was brought into the temple, Solomon killed more animals than could be numbered. 8:5

342. When dedicating the temple, Solomon kills 22,000 oxen and 120,000 sheep. All this blood and gore must have made God very happy. 8:63

343. Joab (David's captain) spent six months killing every male in Edom. 11:16

344. King Josiah is prophesied to sacrifice the priests of the "high places" on their altars. And he does so in 2 Kg.23:20. Note that this is a guy who "did what was right in the eyes of the Lord" (2 Kg.22:2). 13:2

345. Ever the playful spirit, God withers, and then restores, the hand of king Jeroboam. 13:4

346. There were these two prophets. The first prophet lied to the second. To the punish the second for believing the first's lie, God sends a lion to kill him. Get it? 13:11-24

347. God promises to "bring evil upon the house of Jerobaom," saying he will "cut off" anyone "that pisseth against the wall." Then, after he is done with them, their dead bodies will be eaten by dogs (if they are city dwellers) or fowls (if they are country folk). 14:10-12

348. Baasha kills "all of the house of Jeroboam" leaving none "to breath." This slaughter was done "according to the word of the Lord." 15:29

349. God says that "him that dieth of Baasha in the city shall the dogs eat; and him that dieth of his in the fields shall the fowls of the air eat." 16:4

350. Zimri kills everyone "that pisseth against a wall ... according to the word of the Lord." 16:11-12

351. When Hiel rebuilds Jericho, he lays the foundation with the body of his oldest son and sets up the gates with his youngest son's body "according to the word of the Lord." 16:34

352. Elijah kills 450 prophets of Baal. 18:22, 40

353. God delivers the Syrians into the Israelites hands, and 100,000 were killed in one day. Of those that escaped, 27,000 were crushed by a falling wall. 20:28-30

354. There was this son of a prophet that said to his neighbor, "kill me." But the neighbor refused. So God sent a lion to devour him. 20:35

355. The prophet tells king Ahab that he, and his people, shall be punished for releasing Ben-hadad: "Your life shall go for his life, and your people for his people." 20:42

356. Although Naboth was set up here by Jezebel to steal his land, the text assumes that the proper punishment for "blaspheming God and the king" is death by stoning. 21:10-13

357. "Thus saith the Lord, in the place where dogs licked the blood of Naboth shall dogs lick thy blood, even thine." 21:19

358. God will "bring evil upon" Ahab and "cut off" all those "that pisseth against the wall." 21:21

359. Jezebel (Ahab's "strange" wife) "stirred up" Ahab to "work wickedness in the sight of the Lord." To punish her, God will feed her dead body to the dogs. (He also plans to feed the city folk to the dogs and country folks to the birds.) 21:23-25

360. Jehoshaphat "did that which was right in the eyes of the Lord" and "took" the homosexuals (sodomites) "out of the land," or as the RSV says, "he exterminated" them. 22:43, 46
2 Kings

361. Ahaziah was sick and sent messengers to Baalzebub to ask if he would recover. God was jealous of the attention given to his competitor and tells Ahaziah that he will die for asking the wrong god. 1:4, 17

362. Elijah shows that he is "a man of God" by burning 102 men to death. 1:9-12

363. God sends two bears to rip up 42 little children for making fun of Elisha's bald head. 2:23-24

364. God instructs the Israelites, through the prophet Elisha, to implement a scorched earth policy on the Moabites. "Strike every fortified city and every choice city, and fell every good tree and stop all springs of water, and mar every good piece of land with stones." 3:19-25

365. In a desperate attempt to halt the slaughter of his people by the Israelites, the king of Moab sacrifices his oldest son as a burnt offering. And it seems to have worked! 3:27

366. Elisha not only can cure leprosy, he can also dish it out. Here he makes his servant (Gehazi) and all his descendants lepers forever. 5:27

367. "So we boiled my son, and did eat him." Women killed, boiled and ate their own children because of a plague that God sent, or as the Bible puts it: "Behold, this evil is of the Lord." 6:28-29, 33

368. A man is trampled to death for disbelieving Elisha. 7:17-20

369. God sends a famine on the people that lasts for seven years. 8:1

370. God says that the "whole house of Ahab shall perish," and that he "will cut off from Ahab him that pisseth against the wall." 9:8

371. "And the dogs shall eat Jezebel ... and there shall be none to bury her." 9:10

372. Jehu shoots an arrow right through poor old Jehoram's heart. 9:24

373. God has Jezebel thrown off a wall. Her blood is sprinkled on the wall and on the horses, by which she is trampled. Her body is eaten by dogs and all that remains of it is her hands, feet, and skull. God says that she "shall be as dung upon the face of the field." 9:33-37

374. All seventy of king Ahab's sons are killed, their heads put in baskets, and sent to Jezreel. He says, "Lay ye them in two heaps ..." 10:7-8

375. Jehu kills all that remained of king Ahab's family. 10:11

376. Jehu captures and then murders 42 men. 10:14

377. Jehu shows off his zeal for the Lord by murdering "all that remained unto Ahab in Samaria, till he had destroyed him according to the word of the Lord." 10:16-17

378. Jehu lied to the followers of Baal so that he could trap and kill them. 10:19

379. Jehu warns his guards saying, "If any of the men escape, he that letteth him go, his life shall be for the life of him." 10:24

380. Jehu, when he finishes his animal sacrifices, orders his men to "Go in, and slay them, let none come forth. And they smote them with the edge of the sword." 10:25

381. God is greatly pleased with all of Jehu's killings, saying "because thou hast done well in executing that which is right in mine eyes, and hast done unto the house of Ahab according to all that was in mine heart [Jehu murdered them all], thy children of the fourth generation shall sit on the throne of Israel." 10:30

382. Jehu captures and then murders 42 men. 10:42

383. When Athaliah "saw that her son was dead, she arose and destroyed all of the seed royal." 11:1

384. The priest has Athaliah and her followers killed. 11:15-16

385. The "Lord's people" destroyed the "house of Baal" and killed "the priest of Baal before the altars." 11:17-18

386. Amaziah "did that which was right in the sight of the Lord" and killed ten thousand Edomites. 14:3, 7

387. God strikes king Azariah with leprosy "unto the day of his death" for not removing the high places. 15:5

388. King Menahem rips up all the pregnant women in Tizzah "because they opened not to him." Does God approve of such acts? It's impossible to tell from this passage; the mass murder is simply reported without editorial comment. 15:16

389. God sent lions to devour the foreigners in Samaria because "they feared not the Lord," and even worse "they knew not the manner of the God of the land." Well that'll teach them about God's manners. 17:25-26

390. An "angel of the Lord" kills 185,000 men while they sleep. "And when they arose early in the morning, behold, they were all dead corpses." I guess they all woke up and said, "Shucks, I'm dead." 19:35

391. Josiah, apparently with God's approval, kills "all the priests of the high places" and sacrifices them to God on their altars. Note that this is a guy who "did what was right in the eyes of the Lord" (2 Kg.22:2). 23:20

392. Even though Josiah did all that God asked of him, God still punished him and all Jerusalem for the acts of his grandfather. 23:26
1 Chronicles

393. God killed Er for being "evil in the sight of the Lord." 2:3

394. The sons of Reuben made war with the Hagarites and "there fell down many slain, because the war was from God." They did pretty well for themselves, too, in God's war, taking 250,000 sheep and 100,000 slaves. 5:18-22

395. But the Israelites "transgressed against the God of their fathers, and went a whoring after the gods of the people of the land, whom God destroyed before them." So God inspired the Assyrians to go to war with the Israelites. 5:25-26

396. Saul died for refusing God's order to kill all of the Amalekites (15:2-3, 18-19) and for consulting a witch (1 Sam.28:8-19). 10:13-14

397. The chief of David's captains killed with his own spear 300 guys at one time. 11:11

398. God kills Uzza for trying to keep the ark from falling. 13:9-10

399. "David also houghed all the chariot horses." 18:4

400. David kills 7000 men in chariots and 40,000 footmen. 19:18

401. David's army "wastes the children of Ammon ... besieged Rabbah ... and destroyed it." 20:1

402. David tortures all the inhabitants of several cities "with saws, and with harrows of iron, and with axes." 20:3

403. God kills 70,000 men because David had a census. 21:7
2 Chronicles

404. Solomon, when dedicating the temple, killed 22,000 oxen and 120,000 sheep. All the blood, guts, pain, and suffering must have made God very happy. 7:5

405. God kills the king of Israel and helps Abijah kill 500,000 Israelites. "The children of Judah prevailed, because they relied upon the Lord God of their fathers." (That is, they had God on their side.) 13:15-20

406. In the largest single God-assisted massacre in the bible, Asa, with God's help, kills one million Ethiopians. 14:8-14

407. "Nation was destroyed of nation, and city of city: for God did vex them with all adversity." 15:6

408. Whoever that does not seek the God of Israel should be executed. 15:13

409. God inspired Jehoram's enemies to steal his wives and children. Then he made Jehoram so sick that his bowels fell out. 21:14-19

410. Only Levites can enter "the house of the Lord". "Whosoever else cometh into the house, he shall be put to death." 23:6-7

411. God told Jehu to kill everyone in the house of Ahab (and then later condemned him for it (Hosea 1:4)). 22:7-9

412. The priest (Jehoiada) tells the people to kill Athaliah and her followers. So they find her and kill her. "And all the people of the land rejoiced: and the city was quiet, after that they had slain Athaliah with the sword." (Don't you just love happy endings?) 23:14-15, 21

413. "Then all the people went to the house of Baal" and broke its altar into pieces and killed Mattan the priest of Baal. 23:17

414. Amaziah (who "did that which was right in the sight of the Lord") killed 10,000 people; another 10,000 he left alive to throw off a cliff "that they all were broken in pieces." 25:1-2, 11-12

415. God makes Uzziah a leper for burning incense without a license. 26:19-21

416. Pekah killed 120,000 people in one day and enslaves 200,000 women and children "because they had forsaken the Lord God of their fathers." 28:6, 8

417. The priests kill bullocks, rams, and lambs. The blood of the dead animals is then sprinkled on the altars. 29:22, 24

418. God sent an angel to kill the Assyrian army. (According to 2 Kg.19:35 the angel killed 185,000 sleeping soldiers who woke the next morning to discover that they were dead.) 32:21

419. God vows to "bring evil upon this place ... even all the curses that are written in the book." He says his "wrath shall be poured out upon this place, and shall not be quenched." 34:24-25, 28

420. God gets angry with his people, so he sends the king of the Chaldees to kill all the "young men with the sword." He has compassion for no one, not even old men that are "stooped for age." In his tender mercy and loving kindness he has them all slaughtered. 36:16-17
Esther

421. Esther has two men "hanged on a tree." 2:22-23

422. Esther has another man (Haman) hung. 7:6, 10

423. Esther suggests that the ten sons of Haman should also be hanged. So "they hanged Haman's ten sons. 9:13-14

424. The Jews kill 75,000. 9:16
Job

425. To start off God and Satan's gruesome game, Job's slaves and animals are killed. 1:14-17

426. God (or Satan -- it's hard to tell them apart) sends a wind that kills Job's sons and daughters. 1:18-19

427. "So went Satan forth from the presence of the LORD, and smote Job with sore boils from the sole of his foot unto his crown." 2:7

428. Because of God's cruel wager with Satan, Job curses the day he was born. 3:1-3, 11

429. God terrorizes people with arrows and poison. 6:4

430. God terrifies people by sending them nightmares while they sleep. 7:14

431. Speaking of God, Job says: "He teareth me in his wrath, who hateth me: he gnasheth upon me with his teeth." 16:9
Psalms

432. If you ask God, he'll force heathens to be your slaves and help you "dash them in pieces." 2:8-9

433. God has smitten his "enemies upon the cheek bone" and has "broken the teeth of the ungodly." 3:7

434. Kiss the Son or God will get angry and might have to kill you. 2:12

435. Christians often say that one should love the sinner but hate the sin. Perhaps, but God hates sinners and plans to destroy them. 5:5-6

436. God has prepared deadly weapons (swords, bows, etc.) and plans to use them. 7:11-13

437. If you pray to God, he will kill your enemies for you. 9:3-6

438. God will rain fire and brimstone on "wicked" folks. 11:6

439. The God of peace teaches us how to kill our neighbors in war. 18:34

440. If you make God angry, he'll burn you and your children to death. 21:9-10

441. God will shoot his adversaries in the back with his arrows. 21:12

442. A sweet prayer for the destruction of one's enemies: Let their way be dark and slippery: and let the angel of the LORD persecute them.... Let destruction come upon him at unawares." 35:6,8

443. God laughs at those that he will later torment. 37:13

444. If you forget God, God will tear you into pieces. 50:22

445. If you don't trust in God, he'll kill you and while you're dying the "righteous" will laugh at you. 52:5-7

446. Referring to his enemies, the psalmist says: "Let death seize upon them, and let them go down quick into hell." 55:15

447. The psalmist devoutly prays: "Break their teeth, O God, in their mouth ... let them be cut in pieces." 58:6-7

448. The psalmist asks God to kill all "the heathen" and not show them any mercy. 59:5

449. God will laugh at the heathen as he kills them. 59:8

450. "The righteous" will rejoice when he sees "the wicked" being dismembered by God. He'll even get a chance to wash his feet in their blood. Now that's entertainment! 58:10

451. "The God of mercy" will let the psalmist see his enemies tormented. 59:10

452. "Consume them in thy wrath, consume them." -- more sweet prayers to a savage god. 59:13

453. God will "wound the head of his enemies" so that the righteous can wash their feet "in the blood of thine enemies, and the tongue of thy dogs in the same." 68:21, 23

454. The psalmist prays that his enemies be tormented and blinded by God. He asks God to "make their loins continually to shake." 69:23-28

455. "The LORD heard this" (he had his hearing aid on) and became angry, and burned people "because they believed not in God." 78:21-22

456. "The wrath of God came upon them" and God killed many of the Israelites for not believing in "his wondrous works." 78:31-34

457. The psalmist asks God to " do unto them as unto the Midianites ... which became as dung for the earth." 83:9-18

458. If you don't follow God's commandments, he will beat you with a rod. 89:31-32

459. "I will ... destroy all the wicked of the land." 101:8

460. God gives the lions their meat. The cruelty and brutality of nature are all part of God's plan. 104:21

461. The psalmist recounts God's treatment of the Egyptians: "He smote the firstborn in their land." See Ex.12:29-30 for the gory details. 105:29-36

462. God is praised for the creative ways that he kills people: drowning, earth-swallowing, burning, etc. 106:11-19

463. God sent a plague on the Israelites for "committing whoredom with the daughters of Moab." But "then stood up Phinehas, and executed judgment [by throwing a spear through a newly married couple]: and so the plague was stayed." But not before 24,000 (1 Cor.10:8 says 23,000) had died. (See Num.25:6-9 for all the gory details.) 106:29-30

464. The psalmist asks God to do all sorts of unpleasant things to his enemies. "Set thou a wicked man over him; and let Satan stand at his right hand .... Let his prayer become sin." He asks God to take away his possessions, kill him, and have his children suffer for the sins of their fathers. 109:6-14

465. God will "fill the places with dead bodies" of heathens. 110:6

466. God is praised for slaughtering kings, nations, and little babies. 135:8, 10

467. "To him that smote Egypt in their first born: for his mercy endures forever." 136:10

468. God "overthrew Pharaoh and his host in the Red sea: for his mercy endureth for ever." 136:15

469. God "smote great kings: for his mercy endureth for ever." 136:17-18

470. "Happy shall he be, that taketh and dasheth thy little ones against the stones." 137:9

471. The psalmist excels at hating. He hates people with a "perfect hatred" and asks God to kill them. 139:19-22

472. A prayer that God will burn people to death. 140:10

473. The God of Peace teaches us to kill each other in war. 144:1

474. he saints praise God while they kill and enslave "the heathen." 149:5-8
Proverbs

475. Beating your children with a rod is a sure sign of parental love. 13:24

476. God made bad people for the pleasure of punishing them. 16:4

477. Fools are meant to be beaten. 18:6

478. Beat your children and don't stop just because they cry. 19:18

479. Scorners (skeptics?) should be condemned; fools should be beaten. 19:29

480. "The blueness of a wound cleanseth away evil: so do stripes the inward parts of the belly." 20:30

481. "The wicked shall be a ransom for the righteous." 21:18

482. Beating your children will make them less foolish. Have you beaten your child today? 22:15

483. Beat your children hard and often. Don't worry about hurting them. You may break a few bones and cause some brain damage, but it isn't going to kill them. And even if they do die, they'll be better off. They'll thank you in heaven for beating the hell out of them. 23:13-14

484. Whip horses and strike the backs of foolish people with rods. 26:3

485. Beating your children will make them wise. 29:15

486. Beat your servants (slaves), as though they were your children. 29:19

487. If you mock your father or disobey your mother, the ravens will pick out your eyeballs and the eagles will eat them. 30:17

488. "The wringing of the nose bringeth forth blood." 30:33
Isaiah

489. "And ... instead of a sweet smell there shall be stink," with people suffering from baldness and burnings, and the men killed with swords. 3:24-25

490. After God "washed away the filth" from the women and killed the men, he set up "a cloud and smoke by day" and a "flaming fire by night." 4:4-5

491. God will kill those who despise his word and fail to follow his laws. Their carcasses will be "torn in the midst of the streets." 5:24-25

492. If you associate or gird yourself, God will break you in pieces. 8:9

493. God will have no mercy on the widows and children of hypocrites. 9:17

494. God will make every man kill his brother and then force him to eat "the flesh of his own arm." 9:19-20

495. God will "smite the earth with the rod of his mouth, and with the breath of his lips he shall slay the wicked." 11:4

496. "I have commanded my sanctified ones ... to destroy the whole land." God has his holy ones do his dirty work for him. 13:3-5

497. On God's day he will kill sinners with great anger, wrath, and cruelty. Those who die will have their faces consumed by flames. 13:6-9

498. If God can find you, he will "thrust you through," smash your children "to pieces" before your eyes, and rape your wife. He will have no mercy, but will even kill your little children. 13:15-18

499. God will slaughter children "for the iniquity of their fathers." 14:21

500. After God destroys Moab, the rivers will be red with blood. He will send lions to eat any survivors. 15:9

501. The God of Peace will set brother against brother and kingdom against kingdom. Then he'll make the survivors seed the counsel of "wizards," and subject them to a "cruel lord." 19:2-4

502. The Apocalypse of Isaiah: God will destroy the earth, burning everyone and every living thing alive (except maybe a few men). 24:1-6

503. "And the people shall ... be burned in the fire." 33:12

504. God is furious at everyone and is ready to kill them all. Or as Isaiah so delicately puts it: "Their stink shall come up out of their carcasses, and the mountains shall be melted with their blood." 34:2-3

505. God's sword "will be bathed in heaven." Sounds like a place to stay away from. 34:5

506. God's sword is "filled with blood," and he fully intends to use it. He'll kill so many people with it that the "land shall be soaked with blood." 34:6-8

507. An angel of God kills 185,000 men. "And when they [those killed by the angel?] arose early in the morning, behold, they were all dead men." 37:36

508. God will "go forth as a mighty man" who cries and roars, and "will cry like a travailing woman." After he tires of roaring and crying he'll "destroy and devour." What a guy. 42:13

509. God makes Egypt, Ethiopia, and Seba pay for Israel's sins. He says that he likes Israel better than any other country so he's willing to sacrifice other countries for the Israel's sake. 43:3-4

510. No astrologer, stargazer, or prognosticator will be able to save those that God plans to burn to death. 47:13-14

511. God "will do his pleasure on Babylon." (He will mercilessly slaughter the Babylonians.) 48:14

512. "I will feed them that oppress thee with their own flesh; and they shall be drunken with their own blood, as with sweet wine." 49:26

513. "The heavens shall vanish away like smoke, and the earth shall wax old like a garment, and they that dwell therein shall die in like manner." (God plans to destroy the universe.) 51:6

514. "I will ... trample them in my fury; and their blood ... will stain all my raiment." (God's clothes will get stained with the blood of humans.) 63:2-6

515. "God's servants" will eat, drink, and be merry; everyone else will be hungry, thirsty, and ashamed -- until God kills them, that is. 65:13-16

516. God will "plead with all flesh" with fire and sword, "and the slain of the Lord shall be many." 66:16

517. The carcasses of those killed by God will be piled high. They will rot and burn forever. And although their stench will be revolting to humans, it will be a sweet savour unto the Lord. 66:24
Jeremiah

518. God tries to "correct" people by killing their children. 2:30

519. Circumcise the foreskin of your heart or God will burn you to death. 4:4

520. God will bring evil to entire cities, destroying them and wipe out all of their inhabitants. 4:6-7

521. What was once fruitful is now barren. Birds have fled, people are gone, towns are in ruins. All "by his (God's) fierce anger." 4:25-26

522. God sends plagues and violence to correct people. 5:3

523. God will send lions and leopards to tear people into little bitty pieces. 5:6

524. God will kill those who believe and preach the wrong doctrines. 5:12-13

525. God again talks of bringing a foreign nation to destroy his chosen ones and their lands. 5:15-17

526. "I am full of the fury of the Lord; I am weary of holding it in." He's anxious to "pour it out" on children, young men, husbands, wives, and old people. 6:11-12

527. God threatens to punish the men by taking away all of their property, including their wives, and giving them to others. 6:12

528. God plans to kill pretty much everyone: fathers and sons, family, friends, and neighbors. God plans to kill them all after laying a stumbling block before them. 6:21

529. God will send soldiers from the north that will kill everyone and have no mercy. 6:22-23

530. God will pour out his anger on both man and beast. Not even the trees will be spared from his wrath. And the ground itself will burn forever. 7:20

531. God will feed the people to the birds and the beasts, "and none shall fray them away." 7:33

532. God will cover the earth with dead bodies that will not be buried. "They shall be for dung upon the face of the earth." 8:2

533. People will choose to kill themselves, rather than be killed by their vicious God. 8:3

534. God will give the people bad food and water, and then kill them with a sword. 9:15-16

535. God will kill children and young men, and the dead bodies "shall fall as dung .... and none shall gather them." 9:21-22

536. "Behold, the days come, saith the LORD, that I will punish all them which are circumcised with the uncircumcised." I guess that'd include just about everyone -- well, all the men anyway. 9:25-26

537. Jeremiah prays for the destruction of people and families that don't call on God's name. 10:25

538. God "will bring evil upon" people from which they will not be able to escape. And if they cry out to him for help, he will not help them. 11:11

539. God forbids others from praying for his victims. Such prayers would go unanswered anyway, he says, because he "will not hear them in their time of trouble." 11:14

540. God will punish the people by killing their young men in war and starving their children to death. 11:22

541. Jeremiah asks God to drag away his enemies like "sheep for the slaughter." 12:3

542. God delivered his people "into the hand of her enemies." He "hates" his "dearly beloved" people and plans to feed them to the birds. 12:7-9

543. God's sword will "devour" everyone until "no flesh shall have peace." 12:12

544. If any nation does not listen to God, he "will utterly pluck up and destroy that nation." 12:17

545. God plans to make everyone in the kingdom drunk and then "dash the fathers and the sons together." The merciful God of Peace vows to "not pity, nor spare, nor have mercy, but destroy them." 13:13-14

546. God tells Jeremiah not to pray for the people. God has decided to kill them all and he doesn't want to be talked out of it. 14:11

547. God will ignore the peoples' prayers, and kill them all with war, starvation, and disease. 14:12

548. God will destroy by famine and sword those who are misled by the prophets, as well as the prophets themselves. 14:15-16

549. God tells Jeremiah not to bother praying for the people. Even if Moses and Samuel (and Jesus?) were to ask him to reconsider, he wouldn't. He's going to kill everybody and nobody can stop him! 15:1

550. God plans to do four things to his people: 1) kill them with swords, 2) tear their flesh with dogs, 3) have the birds, and 4) the beasts eat their bodies. Why will he do these terrible things? Because of something some former king did. 15:2-4

551. God again threatens Jerusalem with mass destruction. Here are some of the highlights: He will kill children, make more widows than there are grains of sand, terrorize cities, and then kill the survivors. 15:7-9

552. God will have you enslaved and, if you make him mad enough, he will burn you to death. 15:14

553. God tells Jeremiah not to get married or have children, because he's going to kill everyone (mothers and daughters, fathers and sons). They all "shall die of grievous deaths," and that shall neither "be lamented" nor buried, but "shall be as dung upon the face of the earth." For he has removed peace, "lovingkindness," and mercy from the people. 16:1-7

554. God will kill children if their parents worship other gods. 16:10-11

555. If you don't honor the Sabbath, God will burn you to death unquenchable fire. 17:27

556. God admits that he does evil things to people. 18:11

557. Jeremiah asks God to kill the young men in war and the children by starvation. 18:21

558. God will do so much evil to the people that whoever hears of it will have their ears tingle. 19:3

559. God will make parents eat their own children, "and they shall eat everyone the flesh of his friend." 19:7-9

560. God will break those who worship other gods as though they were made of clay, killing so many that there will not be enough room to bury them all. 19:11-13

561. "For thus saith the LORD, Behold, I will make thee a terror to thyself, and to all thy friends: and they shall fall by the sword of their enemies, and thine eyes shall behold it." 20:4

562. God himself will fight and kill everyone in fury "with an outstretched hand and with a strong arm." 21:5

563. "I will smite the inhabitants of this city, both man and beast: they shall die of a great pestilence." 21:6

564. God will deliver Zedekiah and those that survive the famine, disease, and war into Nebuchadrezzar's hand, and "he shall smite them with the edge of the sword; he shall not spare them, neither have pity, nor have mercy. 21:7

565. God tells the Judeans to either surrender to the Babylonians and become their slaves or die. "Behold, I am against thee." No kidding. 21:9-13

566. God will have Jeconiah's enemies kill him and his mother and then ensure that he die without leaving any sons. 22:25-30

567. God promises to kill everyone by war, starvation, and disease. 24:10

568. God will force "all the kingdoms of the world" to drink "and be drunken". Then he'll kill "all the inhabitants of the earth" with a sword. 25:26-29

569. God will kill so many people that the entire earth will be covered with their dead bodies. No one is to mourn them or even bury them; "they shall be dung upon the ground." 25:31-33

570. God will destroy "the peaceable habitations" and make the land desolate "because of his fierce anger." 25:37-38

571. Anyone who disobeys King Nebuchadnezzar will be punished "with the sword, and with the famine, and with the pestilence, until I have consumed them by his hand." 27:8

572. God kills Hananiah for prophesying falsely. 28:15-17

573. God will send his usual blessings upon his people: "the sword, the famine, and the pestilence." He "will make them like vile figs, that cannot be eaten, they are so evil." 29:17-18

574. God will kill those who refuse listen to his prophets. 29:19

575. God will deliver Ahab and Zedekiah into the hands of Nebuchadrezzar "and he shall slay them before your eyes" and Ahab will be "roasted in the fire." 29:21-22

576. God will punish the children of Shemaiah for their father's false prophecy. 29:32

577. God litters the ground "with the dead bodies of men" that he has killed in his anger and fury. 33:5

578. God threatens again to send his people the sword, pestilence, and famine, saying he'll feed their dead bodies to the fowls and beasts of the earth. 34:17-20

579. All those who move to Egypt will die by the sword, famine, or pestilence. None "shall escape from the evil" that comes directly from God. 42:15-18, 22

580. When God pours forth his fury and his anger, entire cities are destroyed. 44:6

581. God's not finished with Judah. He will bring more evil upon them. Even those Jews that flee to Egypt will not be spared. God will hunt them down and kill them all with war, famine, and disease. 44:11-13

582. "I will watch over them for evil, and not for good." 44:27

583. God says he will bring evil upon all flesh. 45:5

584. The day of the Lord will be "a day of vengeance." On that day God's sword will become drunk with blood. 46:10

585. God plans to drown the Philistines in a flood, and "all the men shall cry, and all the inhabitants of the land shall howl." 47:2

586. God plans to kill just about everybody. "No city shall escape." 48:8

587. "Cursed by he that keepeth back his sword from blood." 48:10

588. God will destroy everyone in Moab. Fire will burn their heads, and their sons and daughters will be taken captive. 48:42-47

589. God will cause the daughters of Rabbah to be burned with fire. 49:2

590. God will send such marvelous plagues on Edom that everyone will hiss in astonishment. 49:17

591. God plans to "bring evil upon" the people of Elam. He says he'll kill them all with a sword. 49:37

592. God says to do the usual thing to the inhabitants of "the land of Merathaim": kill them all. 50:21

593. God commands that all Babylonian bullocks be slaughtered, that archers shoot all Babylonians, and that all their men be killed in war. 50:27-30

594. God, the pyromaniac, will personally set the fires that will burn to death the inhabitants of entire cities. 50:32

595. God plans to kill all the Babylonian horses, and to make the Babylonian men "become like women." (A fate worse than death to a misogynous god.). 50:37

596. God wants us to be his "battle axe and weapons of war" to "break in pieces the nations" and "destroy kingdoms." 51:20

597. God will "break in pieces" nations and kingdoms, horse and rider, man and woman, old and young, young man and maid, the shepherd and his flock, husbandman and his yoke of oxen, captain and kings. It seems that God intends to break us all into pieces. 51:21-23

598. God will get the Babylonians drunk and then kill them all, leading them "like lambs to the slaughter." 51:39-40
Lamentations

599. God tramples "as in a winepress" mighty men, young men, and virgins. 1:15-16

600. "The Lord Was an enemy." 2:4-8

601. God mercilessly kills everyone, young and old. He even causes women to eat their children. 2:20-22

602. God is like a bear or a lion who secretly pursues you and then tears you apart. 3:10-11

603. "Give them sorrow of heart, thy curse unto them. Persecute and destroy them in anger." 3:63-64

604. God punishes the Israelites by starving their children to death. 4:4-9

605. God "accomplishes his fury" by making women eat their children. 4:10-11
Ezekiel

606. If a good person does something wrong after God "lays a stumbling block before him," then God will kill him. "He shall die in his sin" and whatever good he has done will be forgotten. 3:20

607. God will cause the fathers to eat their sons and the sons to eat their fathers. 5:10

608. God will slaughter everyone by killing one third with plagues, one third with famines, and one third with wars. If any somehow survive, he'll send "evil beasts" to devour them. Finally, after he's done killing, he "will be comforted." 5:11-17

609. God will decorate the land with the bones and dead bodies of those who worship a different god. 6:4-5

610. God makes his presence known by killing people with famine, disease, and war. 6:7-14

611. God will pour out his fury on everyone, with pity toward none. By so doing he says that "ye shall know that I am the Lord that smiteth." Indeed, who would else would behave so viciously? 7:3-9

612. God's is mad at everyone and no one will escape his wrath. He'll kill them all with war, disease, and starvation. "Horror shall cover them" and "they shall know that I am the Lord." 7:14-28

613. God promises again to slaughter everyone. He says that he will ignore them when they plead with him for mercy. 8:18

614. God sends a "man clothed with linen" to mark the foreheads of the men who will be saved. Apparently only men are considered good enough to keep, the others (unmarked men, "maids", little children, and women) are to be slaughtered. God says he'll "fill the courts with the slain" and will have pity on no one. 9:4-10

615. When you fall by the sword, you'll know that he is the Lord. 11:8-12

616. When God kills everyone in the city, then you'll know that he is the Lord. (Who else would be so cruel?) 12:15-16, 20

617. God gets mad at a wall and destroys it, along with those who worked on it. 13:14-15

618. God again vows to destroy those that dare worship something or someone other than him. 14:6-8

619. God deceives some of his prophets and then kills them for believing his lies. 14:9

620. When really bad things happen (like you get eaten by wild beasts, get killed in war, get sick and die, etc.), then you'll know that it was God that did it to you. 14:13, 15, 19, 21

621. God will burn the inhabitants of Jerusalem to show everyone that he is the Lord. 15:6-7

622. For being such a *****, God punished Jerusalem by starving the Israelites and handing them over to the Philistines. 16:17

623. After exposing her nakedness, God will give her "blood in fury and jealousy" and strip her naked once more. 16:38-41

624. God gave the Israelites "statutes that were not good and judgments whereby they should not live." He "polluted" them so that he "might make them desolate" and force them to kill and sacrifice their children "that they might know" that he is the Lord. 20:25-26

625. God will set a fire in the southern kingdom that will devour everything and burn everyone. "And all flesh shall see that I the LORD have kindled it." 20:47-48

626. God will kill everyone -- good and bad, just and unjust. 21:3-4

627. God describes the various ways that he will kill people. 21:8-32

628. "Thou shalt be for fuel to the fire; thy blood shall be in the midst of the land ... for I the LORD have spoken it." 21:32

629. God will gather all of Israel and consume them in the fires of his anger. 22:20-22

630. God couldn't find anyone to stand up to him, so he's going to destroy everyone. 22:30-31

631. Two sisters were guilty of "committing whoredoms" by pressing their breasts and bruising "the teats of their virginity." As a punishment, one sister's nakedness was discovered, her children were taken from her, and she was killed by the sword. And the fate of the surviving sister was even worse: Her nose and ears were cut off, she was made to "pluck off" her own breasts, and then after being raped and mutilated, she is stoned to death. 23:1-49

632. God gets all excited about cooking with "scum" and human flesh, saying "kindle the fire, consume the flesh, and spice it well, and let the bones be burned." 24:3-14

633. God kills Ezekiel's wife and then tells him not to mourn her. 24:15-18

634. God will kill everyone that claps his hands or stamps his feet "against the land of Israel." When he's done with the killing everyone will know that he is the Lord. 25:6-17

635. God says he will destroy Tyrus. He plans to kill everyone, but he is especially looking forward to killing all of the women. "And her daughters which are in the field shall be slain by the sword; and they shall know that I am the LORD." 26:1-21

636. Now God has singled out the king of Tyre for his tirades. 28:7-10, 18-19

637. Watch out or God will make you "die the deaths of the uncircumcised," which is, no doubt, a most unpleasant death. 28:10

638. God says that Zidon will know that he is the Lord when he sends "pestilence and blood into her streets." 28:22-23

639. God tells Ezekiel to prophesy against the pharaoh and against all Egypt. God says he will feed the Egyptians to the birds and beasts. 29:2-5

640. God makes "all their loins to be at a stand." When this is achieved, God will get out his sword and "cut off man and beast out of thee." Ouch! 29:7-9

641. God will punish Egypt and her allies by sending Nebuchadrezzar to "fill the land with the slain." Then he will make "the rivers dry," sell the land to "the wicked," make "the land waste," light fires, and kill all their young men with the sword. 30:4-26

642. "And they shall know that I am the LORD, when I have set a fire in Egypt." (The Divine Pyromaniac) 30:8, 30:14, 30:16

643. God will treat Pharaoh like a whale fished out of the sea. Every bird and beast in the world will feed upon him. 32:3-6

644. God will vex the hearts of many people, destroy entire nations, brandish his sword, kill animals, and cause floods. In this way people will come to know him (just before he kills them?). 32:9-15

645. God takes a break from killing people while he kills all the animals in Egypt. 32:13

646. Pharaoh and all his multitude, along with the uncircumcised, will be killed with the sword. 32:20-32

647. If a "righteous" person does something wrong, God will forget every good thing that that person has ever done. Then God will kill him for the single mistake. 33:13

648. God plans some more killing by the sword, beasts, and the pestilence. 33:27-29

649. God will kill everyone in the cities, "and thou shalt know that I am the LORD." 35:3-4

650. "And I will fill his mountains with his slain men, and ye shalt know that I am the LORD." 35:6-9

651. God will return their own anger and hatred upon them, "and they shall know that I am the LORD." 35:11-15

652. Someday the God of Peace will start a war between Gog and Israel. 38:16

653. God will cause each man's sword to be against his brother; he will send disease and make it rain fire and brimstone. He says that by doing this he'll magnify and sanctify himself and let everyone know that he is the Lord. 38:21-23

654. God will have birds and beasts eat human flesh and drink human blood until they are full and drunken. 39:4, 17-20, 28

655. God "will send a fire on Magog ... and the heathen shall know that I am the Lord." 39:6-7

656. God hid his face from the Israelites, refusing to hear their prayers, while giving "them into the hand of their enemies: so fell they all by the sword." 39:23-24
Daniel

657. Nebuchadnezzar, after first trying to burn to death the three Hebrews, now decrees that everyone who says anything against the Hebrew god "shall be cut in pieces, and their houses shall be made a dunghill." 3:29

658. King Darius, after trying to feed Daniel to the lions, orders those who accused Daniel (and their wives and children) to be cast into the lion den. "And the lions ... brake all their bones in pieces." 6:24
Hosea

659. God (or Hosea?) tells his children that their mother is a ***** who is not his wife. He asks them to tell their mother to "put away her whoredoms" and "her adulteries from between her breasts" or he'll "strip her naked ... and slay her with thirst." 2:2-3

660. God will tear up Ephraim like a lion so that "in their affliction they will seek me." 5:14

661. "Woe unto them! for they have fled from me: destruction unto them!" 7:13

662. For ignoring God "their princes shall fall by the sword." 7:16

663. "I will send a fire upon his cities." 8:14

664. God will induce miscarriages and kill the children of Ephraim. 9:11-12

665. "O Lord: what wilt thou give? give them a miscarrying womb and dry breasts." 9:14

666. "I will slay even the beloved fruit of their womb." 9:16

667. God will punish Israel by "dashing" together mothers and their children. 10:14

668. The blame for Ephraim's bloody destruction falls on Ephraim, not on God. Even though God is the one who brings it about. 12:14

669. God will rip humans apart and then eat them like a lion.13:7-8

670. Because the Samaritans chose to worship another deity, God will dash their infants to pieces and their "women with child shall be ripped up." 13:16
Joel

671. "Beat your plowshares into swords and your pruninghooks into spears." 3:10
Amos

672. The divine pyromaniac threatens to "send fire unto" Hazael, Gaza, Tyrus, Teman, Rabbah, Moab, and Judah. 1:4, 7, 10, 12, 14; 2:2, 5

673. God will "slay all the princes" of Moab.2:3

674. God destroyed the Amorites who were a race of giants as tall as cedars and as strong as oaks. 2:9

675. God afflicts the Israelites with "cleanness of teeth" (famine) and drought. And then he wonders why they don't turn to him. 4:6-9

676. God sends the pestilence, kills young men with the sword, and makes t1e "stink of your camps to come up unto your nostrils." 4:10

677. God tells the Israelites to seek him or he'll kill 90% of them. 5:3-4

678. Seek God or he'll burn you to death. 5:6

679. When there is wailing and mourning, you'll know God's been there. 5:16-17

680. In the first of Amos' visions, God makes some grasshoppers and sends them to devour the peoples' crops. 7:1-2

681. Next God sends a fire that consumes both land and sea. 7:4

682. God will kill the house of Jeroboam with the sword, and force the Israelites into captivity. 7:9-11

683. Amos tells Amaziah that his wife will become a *****, his children will be killed, and he'll die in a pagan country. 7:17

684. God tells Amos that the end has come for the people of Israel. He won't wait any longer to kill them all. 8:2

685. God will kill so many people that dead bodies will lay everywhere. 8:3-14

686. God will "slay the last of them with the sword." Any that try to escape by diving to the bottom of the sea will be bitten, at God's command, by a serpent. God will set his "eyes upon them for evil, not for good." 9:1-4

687. God will destroy the "the sinful kingdom" and "all the sinners" among his people. 9:8-10
Obadiah

688. The Israelites hear "a rumor from the Lord" telling them to start a war with the Edomites. 1, 8

689. God tells Israelites to "destroy the wise men out of Edom" and to slaughter "everyone of the mount of Esau." 8-9

690. God will burn all the heathen to death, "for the LORD hath spoken it." 16-18
Micah

691. God will destroy Samaria with stones. 1:6

692. Plucking off skin, flesh from bones, eating human flesh, flaying off skin, breaking bones, chopping bodies in pieces, making human stew. All this and more will happen to God's favorite people. But when they "cry unto the Lord, he will not hear them." 3:2-4

693. God will strengthen the Israelites so they can "beat in pieces many peoples" and give the booty to God. 4:13

694. "They shall waste the land of Assyria with the sword." 5:6

695. Like a young lion "the remnant of Jacob" will tear the Gentiles to pieces. 5:8

696. "Thine hand shall be lifted up upon thine adversaries, and all thine enemies shall be cut off." 5:9

697. God will "cut off" the witches and soothsayers. 5:11-12

698. God will destroy entire cities, and "execute vengeance in anger and fury upon the heathen such as they have not heard." 5:14-15

699. God will make his people sick, hungry, and desolate. Those who survive he will "give up to the sword." 6:13-16

700. The Gentiles will be made deaf, shall lick dust and be forced to crawl like worms from fear of God and his people. 7:16-17
Nahum

701. God doesn't just get even. He drowns his enemies. 1:8

702. "Behold, I am against thee, saith the LORD of hosts, and I will burn her chariots." 2:13

703. "There is a multitude of slain, and a great number of carcasses; and there is none end of their corpses; they stumble upon their corpses." Now that's a lot of dead people. 3:3

704. God punished Nineveh by enslaving the people and smashing the little children in the streets. 3:10

705. God says that "the fire shall devour thee, the sword shall cut thee off, it shall eat thee up like the cankerworm." 3:15

Habakkuk

706. "Before him [God] went the pestilence, and burning coals went forth at his feet." 3:3-5

707. Habakkuk praises God for slaughtering "the heathen." 3:12
Zephaniah

708. God plans to kill every living thing. 1:2-3

709. God will "cut off" all those who "have not sought the Lord" or who worship another god. 1:4-6

710. God will "bring distress upon men" so that they "walk like blind men." He will pour out their blood like dust and "their flesh as dung." 1:17

711. God will kill all the inhabitants of the sea coast. 2:5

712. God will destroy Moab and Ammon just like he did to Sodom and Gomorrah. 2:9

713. God will be "terrible" to humans and will "famish all the gods." 2:11

714. God will kill the Ethiopians with his own sword. 2:12

715. God destroyed entire cities, killing all the inhabitants. 3:6

716. "All of the earth shall be devoured with the fire of my jealousy." 3:8
Haggai

717. God will make the horses and their riders be killed by "the sword of his brother." 2:22
Zechariah

718. "For I set all men every one against his neighbor." 8:10

719. God will cast out Tyrus and devour it with fire. 9:4

720. God will mercilessly "feed the flock of slaughter" by making every one kill his neighbor. 11:6

721. "Let the rest eat every one the flesh of another." 11:9

722. "Woe to the idle shepherd." He will be mutilated and blinded. 11:17

723. God will open his eyes and smite "every rider with madness ... and every horse ... with blindness." 12:4

724. A prophet must be killed by his own parents by "thrusting him through when he prophesieth." 13:3

725. God will make "all nations" fight against Jerusalem. The women will be "ravished" and half its people enslaved. 14:1-2

726. God will smite the people with plagues that will cause their flesh, eyes, and tongues to rot away. 14:12

727. God will make everyone fight and kill his neighbor. 14:13

728. God sends his plagues on animals too. 14:15

729. Whoever survives all these plagues and slaughters must worship God. 14:16

730. God will "smite the heathen" with a plague. 14:18
Malachi

731. God continues to demand animal sacrifices. And not just any animals will do. He is insulted when blind, lame, or sick animals are killed for him. 1:8, 13-14

732. God will burn "the wicked" and the "righteous" will walk around on their ashes. 4:1-3

733. The Old Testament ends fittingly with these words: "lest I come and smite the earth with a curse." 4:6

734. God will burn "the wicked" and the "righteous" will walk around on their ashes. 25:1-3
Matthew

735. Those who bear bad fruit will be cut down and burned "with unquenchable fire." 3:10, 12

736. Jesus strongly approves of the law and the prophets. He hasn't the slightest objection to the cruelties of the Old Testament. 5:17

737. Jesus recommends that to avoid sin we cut off our hands and pluck out our eyes. This advice is given immediately after he says that anyone who looks with lust at any women commits adultery. 5:29-30

738. Jesus says that most people will go to hell. 7:13-14

739. Those who fail to bear "good fruit" will be "hewn down, and cast into the fire." 7:19

740. "The children of the kingdom [the Jews] shall be cast out into outer darkness: there shall be weeping and gnashing of teeth." 8:12

741. Jesus tells a man who had just lost his father: "Let the dead bury the dead." 8:21

742. Jesus sends some devils into a herd of pigs, causing them to run off a cliff and drown in the waters below. 8:32

743. Cities that neither "receive" the disciples nor "hear" their words will be destroyed by God. It will be worse for them than for Sodom and Gomorrah. And you know what God supposedly did to those poor folks (see Gen.19:24). 10:14-15

744. Families will be torn apart because of Jesus (this is one of the few "prophecies" in the Bible that has actually come true). "Brother shall deliver up the brother to death, and the father the child: and the children shall rise up against their parents, and cause them to be put to death." 10:21

745. Jesus says that we should fear God who is willing and "able to destroy both soul and body in hell." 10:28

746. Jesus says that he has come to destroy families by making family members hate each other. He has "come not to send peace, but a sword." 10:34-36

747. Jesus condemns entire cities to dreadful deaths and to the eternal torment of hell because they didn't care for his preaching. 11:20-24

748. Jesus will send his angels to gather up "all that offend" and they "shall cast them into a furnace of fire: there shall be wailing and gnashing of teeth." 13:41-42, 50

749. Jesus is criticized by the Pharisees for not washing his hands before eating. He defends himself by attacking them for not killing disobedient children according to the commandment: "He that curseth father or mother, let him die the death." (See Ex.21:15, Lev.20:9, Dt.21:18-21) So, does Jesus think that children who curse their parents should be killed? It sure sounds like it. 15:4-7

750. Jesus advises his followers to mutilate themselves by cutting off their hands and plucking out their eyes. He says it's better to be "maimed" than to suffer "everlasting fire." 18:8-9

751. "And his lord was wroth, and delivered him to the tormentors." 18:34

752. In the parable of the marriage feast, the king sends his servants to gather everyone they can find, both bad and good, to come to the wedding feast. One guest didn't have on his wedding garment, so the king tied him up and "cast him into the outer darkness" where "there shall be weeping and gnashing of teeth." 22:12-13

753. Jesus had no problem with the idea of drowning everyone on earth in the flood. It'll be just like that when he returns. 24:37

754. God will come when people least expect him and then he'll "cut them asunder." And "there shall be weeping and gnashing of teeth." 24:50-51

755. The servant who kept and returned his master's talent was cast into the "outer darkness" where there will be "weeping and gnashing of teeth." 25:30

756. Jesus tells us what he has planned for those that he dislikes. They will be cast into an "everlasting fire." 25:41

757. Jesus says the damned will be tormented forever. 25:46
Mark

758. Jesus explains why he speaks in parables: to confuse people so they will go to hell. 4:11-12

759. Jesus sends devils into 2000 pigs, causing them to jump off a cliff and be drowned in the sea. When the people hear about it, they beg Jesus to leave. 5:12-13

760. Any city that doesn't "receive" the followers of Jesus will be destroyed in a manner even more savage than that of Sodom and Gomorrah. 6:11

761. Jesus criticizes the Jews for not killing their disobedient children as required by Old Testament law. (See Ex.21:15, Lev.20:9, Dt.21:18-21) 7:9-10

762. If you're ashamed of Jesus, he'll be ashamed of you. (And you'll go straight to hell.) 8:38

763. Jesus tells us to cut off our hands and feet, and pluck out our eyes to avoid going to hell. 9:43-49

764. Jesus says that those that believe and are baptized will be saved, while those who don't will be damned. 16:16
Luke

765. God strikes Zacharias dumb for doubting the angel Gabriel's words. 1:20

766. Those who fail to bear "good fruit" will be "hewn down, and cast into the fire." 3:9

767. John the Baptist says that Christ will burn the damned "with fire unquenchable." 3:17

768. Jesus heals a naked man who was possessed by many devils by sending the devils into a herd of pigs, causing them to run off a cliff and drown in the sea. This messy, cruel, and expensive (for the owners of the pigs) treatment did not favorably impress the local residents, and Jesus was asked to leave. 8:27-37

769. Jesus says that entire cities will be violently destroyed and the inhabitants "thrust down to hell" for not "receiving" his disciples. 10:10-15

770. Jesus says that we should fear God since he has the power to kill us and then torture us forever in hell. 12:5

771. Jesus says that God is like a slave-owner who beats his slaves "with many stripes." 12:46-47

772. According to Jesus, only a few will be saved; the vast majority will suffer eternally in hell where "there shall be weeping and gnashing of teeth." 13:23-30

773. In the parable of the rich man and Lazarus, the rich man goes to hell, because as Abraham explains, he had a good life on earth and so now he will be tormented. Whereas Lazarus, who was miserable on earth, is now in heaven. This seems fair to Jesus. 16:19-31

774. Jesus believed the story of Noah's ark. He thought it really happened and had no problem with the idea of God drowning everything and everybody. 17:26-27

775. Jesus also believes the story about Noah's flood and Sodom's destruction. He says, "even thus shall it be in the day the son of man is revealed ... Remember Lot's wife." This tells us about Jesus' knowledge of science and history, and his sense of justice. 17:29-32

776. In the parable of the talents, Jesus says that God takes what is not rightly his, and reaps what he didn't sow. The parable ends with the words: "bring them [those who preferred not to be ruled by him] hither, and slay them before me." 19:22-27
John

777. As an example to parents everywhere and to save the world (from himself), God had his own son tortured and killed. 3:16

778. People are damned or saved depending only on what they believe. 3:18, 36

779. The "wrath of God" is on all unbelievers. 3:36

780. Jesus believes people are crippled by God as a punishment for sin. He tells a crippled man, after healing him, to "sin no more, lest a worse thing come unto thee." 5:14

781. Those who do not believe in Jesus will be cast into a fire to be burned. 15:6

782. Jesus says we must eat his flesh and drink his blood if we want to have eternal life. This idea was just too gross for "many of his disciples" and "walked no more with him." 6:53-66
Acts

783. Peter claims that Dt.18:18-19 refers to Jesus, saying that those who refuse to follow him (all non-Christians) must be killed. 3:23

784. Peter and God scare Ananias and his wife to death for not forking over all of the money that they made when selling their land. 5:1-10

785. Peter has a dream in which God show him "wild beasts, and creeping things, and fowls." The voice (God's?) says, "Rise, Peter: kill and eat." 10:10-13

786. Peter describes the vision that he had in the last chapter (10:10-13). All kinds of beasts, creeping things, and fowls drop down from the sky in a big sheet, and a voice (God's, Satan's?) tells him to "Arise, Peter; slay and eat." 11:5-6

787. The "angel of the Lord" killed Herod by having him "eaten of worms" because "he gave not God the glory." 12:23

788. David was "a man after [God's] own heart." 13:22

789. The author of Acts talks about the "sure mercies of David." But David was anything but merciful. For an example of his behavior see 2 Sam.12:31 and 1 Chr.20:3, where he saws, hacks, and burns to death the inhabitants of several cities. 13:34

790. Paul and the Holy Ghost conspire together to make Elymas (the sorcerer) blind. 13:8-11
Romans

791. Homosexuals (those "without natural affection") and their supporters (those "that have pleasure in them") are "worthy of death." 1:31-32

792. The guilty are "justified" and "saved from wrath" by the blood of an innocent victim. 5:9

793. God punishes everyone for someone else's sin; then he saves them by killing an innocent victim. 5:12
>1 Corinthians

794. If you defile the temple of God, God will destroy you. 3:17

795. Paul claims that God killed 23,000 in a plague for "committing whoredom with the daughters of Moab 10:8

796. If you tempt Christ (How could you tempt Christ?), you'll will die from snake bites. 10:9

797. If you murmur, you'll be destroyed by the destroyer (God). 10:10
Ephesians

798. We are predestined by God to go to either heaven or hell. None of our thoughts, words, or actions can affect the final outcome. 1:4-5, 11

799. God had his son murdered to keep himself from hurting others for things they didn't do. 1:7

800. The bloody death of Jesus smelled good to God. 5:2

801. Those who refuse to obey will face the wrath of God. 5:6
Colossians

802. God bought us with someone else's blood. 1:14

803. God makes peace through blood. 1:19-20
1 Thessalonians

804. God is planning a messy, mass murder in "the wrath to come" and only Jesus can save you from it. 1:10
2 Thessalonians

805. Jesus will take "vengeance on them that know not God" by burning them forever "in flaming fire." 1:7-9

806. Jesus will "consume" the wicked "with the spirit of his mouth." 2:8

807. God will cause us to believe lies so that he can damn our souls to hell. 2:11-12
Hebrews

808. God will not forgive us unless we shed the blood of some innocent creature. 9:13-14, 22

809. Those who disobeyed the Old Testament law were killed without mercy. It will be much worse for those who displease Jesus. 10:28-29

810. God ordered animals to be "stoned, or thrust through with a dart" if they "so much as ... touch the mountain." 12:20
James

811. If you are merciless to others, God will be merciless to you. (Two wrongs make a right.) 2:13

812. James says Abraham was justified by works (for being willing to kill his son for God); Paul (Rom.4:2-3) says he was justified by faith (for believing that God would order him to do such an evil act). 2:21
1 Peter

813. We are all, according to Peter, predestined to be saved or damned. We have no say in the matter. It was all determined by "the sprinkling of the blood of Jesus Christ."1:2

814. "The precious blood of Christ ... was foreordained before the foundation of the world."
God planned to kill Jesus from the get-go. 1:19-20

815. God drowned drowned everyone on earth except for Noah and his family. 3:20
2 Peter

816. God drowned everyone else on earth except for Noah and his family. 2:5, 3:6

817. God will set the entire earth on fire so that he can burn non-believers to death. 3:7

818. When Jesus returns, he'll burn up the whole earth and everything on it. 3:10
1 John

819. Jesus' blood washes away human sin. 1:7
Jude

820. "The Lord destroyed them that believed not. 5
Revelation

821. Jesus "washed us ... with his own blood." 1:5

822. Everyone on earth will wail because of Jesus. 1:7

823. Jesus has "the keys of hell and death." 1:18

824. Repent -- or else Jesus will fight you with the sword that sticks out of his mouth. (Like the limbless knight in Monty Python's "Holy Grail.") 2:16

825. "I [Jesus] will kill her children with death." 2:23

826. "Thou hast created all things, and for thy pleasure they are and were created." God created predators, pathogens, and predators for his very own pleasure. One of his favorite species is guinea worms. 4:11

827. God gives someone on a white horse a bow and sends him out to conquer people. 6:2

828. God gave power to someone on a red horse "to take from the earth ... that they should kill one another." 6:4

829. God tells Death and Hell to kill one quarter of the earth's population with the sword, starvation, and "with the beasts of the earth." 6:8

830. The martyrs just can't wait until everyone else is slaughtered. God gives them a white robe and tells them to wait until he's done with his killing spree. 6:10-11

831. God tells his murderous angels to "hurt not the earth, neither the sea, nor the trees, till we have sealed the servants of your God on their foreheads." This verse is one that Christians like to use to show God's loving concern for the environment. But the previous verse (7:2) makes it clear that it was their God-given job to "hurt the earth and the sea" just as soon as they finished their forehead marking job. 7:3

832. 144,000 Jews will be going to heaven; everyone else is going to hell. 7:4

833. Those that survive the great tribulation will get to wash their clothes in the blood of the lamb. 7:14

834. God sends his angels to destroy a third part of all the trees, grass, sea creature, mountains, sun, moon, starts, and water. 8:7-13

835. "Many men died of the waters, because they were made bitter." 8:11

836. The angels are instructed not to "hurt the grass [how could they? He already had all the grass killed in 8:7] ... but only those men which have not the seal of God on their foreheads." God tells his angels not to kill them, but rather torment them with scorpions for five months. Those tormented will want to die, but God won't let them. 9:4-6

837. God makes some horse-like locusts with human heads, women's hair, lion's teeth, and scorpion's tails. They sting people and hurt them for five months. 9:7-10

838. Four angels, with an army of 200 million, killed a third of the earth's population. 9:15-19

839. Anyone that messes with God's two olive trees and two candlesticks (God's witnesses) will be burned to death by fire that comes out of their mouths. 11:3-5

840. God's witnesses have special powers. They can shut up heaven so that it cannot rain, turn rivers into blood, and smite the earth with plagues "as often as they will." 11:6

841. After God's witnesses "have finished their testimony," they are killed in a war with a beast from a bottomless pit. 11:7

842. Their dead bodies lie unburied for three and a half days. People will "rejoice over them and make merry, and shall send gifts to one another." After another three and half days God brings his witnesses back to life and they ascend into heaven. 11:8-12

843. When the witnesses ascend into heaven, an earthquake kills 7000 men. This was the second woe. "The third woe cometh quickly." 11:13-14

844. "The Lamb slain from the foundation of the world"
God planned to kill Jesus before he created the world. 13:8

845. Those who receive the mark of the beast will "drink of the wine of the wrath of God ... and shall be tormented with fire and brimstone ... and the smoke of their torment ascendeth up for ever and ever." 14:10-11

846. "The great winepress of the wrath of God ... was trodden ... and the blood cam out of the winepress, even unto the horses bridles." 14:19-20

847. Seven angels with seven plagues are filled with the wrath of God. 15:1, 15:7

848. The seven vials of wrath: 1) sores, 2) sea turned to blood, 3) rivers turned to blood, 4) people scorched with fire, 5) people gnaw their tongues in pain, 6) Euphrates dries up, 7) thunder, lightning, earthquake, and hail. 16:1-21

849. God gave the saints and prophets blood to drink. 16:6

850. "They shall eat her flesh and burn her with fire." (Are they going to eat her first and then burn her?) 17:16-17

851. To punish her God will send plagues and famine, and "she will be utterly burned with fire." 18:8

852. God will send plagues, death, and famine on Babylon, and the kings "who have committed fornication with her" will be sad to see her burn. 18:8-9

853. Jesus makes war. 19:11

854. With eyes aflame, many crowns on his head, clothes dripping with blood, a sword sticking out of his mouth, and a secret name, Jesus leads the faithful into holy war. 19:12-15

855. "Come ... unto the supper of the great God." An angel calls all the fowls to feast upon the flesh of dead horses and human bodies, "both free and bond, both small and great." 19:17-18

856. The beast and the false prophet are cast alive into a lake of fire. The rest were killed with the sword of Jesus. "And all the fowls were filled with their flesh." 19:20-21

857. God will send fire from heaven to devour people. And the devil will be tormented "day and night for ever and ever." 20:9-10

858. Whoever isn't found listed in the book of life will be cast into the lake of fire. 20:15

859. All liars, as well as those who are fearful or unbelieving, will be cast into "the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone." 21:8

(from http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/ex/17.html#13)

and here's a fun site where someone has actually counted the number of people killed by god in the bible. It's 2,270,971+. Reasons vary for the killings but include "A man who picked up sticks on the Sabbath" "complaining" "A prophet for believing another prophet's lie" "for talking to the wrong god." and happy events like Samuel (at God's command) hacking Agag to death. And I thought geography teachers were mean......they got nothing on old god.

http://dwindlinginunbelief.blogspot.com/2006/08/how-many-has-god-killed.html

mhancoc7
October 8th, 2007, 02:37 AM
I didn't mention Christians, you just assumed that. Also i didn't mention randomness. And I was offering a general example, "For example" was the clue for that one. But never mind. Perhaps you might like to read your bible again paying particular attention this time to episodes of cruelty and violence. To help you here are references, btw these are just the ones that are promoted/endorsed/directed by god and his agents, the bad guys don't get a look in.

(from http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/ex/17.html#13)

and here's a fun site where someone has actually counted the number of people killed by god in the bible. It's 2,270,971+. Reasons vary for the killings but include "A man who picked up sticks on the Sabbath" "complaining" "A prophet for believing another prophet's lie" "for talking to the wrong god." and happy events like Samuel (at God's command) hacking Agag to death. And I thought geography teachers were mean......they got nothing on old god.

http://dwindlinginunbelief.blogspot.com/2006/08/how-many-has-god-killed.html

One word:

Context (http://www.webster.com/cgi-bin/dictionary?context)

Jereme

julian67
October 8th, 2007, 02:44 AM
One word:

Context (http://www.webster.com/cgi-bin/dictionary?context)

Jereme

You're absolutely correct. That is precisely one word.

Nano Geek
October 8th, 2007, 03:14 AM
I didn't mention Christians, you just assumed that. Also i didn't mention randomness. And I was offering a general example, "For example" was the clue for that one. But never mind. Perhaps you might like to read your bible again paying particular attention this time to episodes of cruelty and violence. To help you here are references, btw these are just the ones that are promoted/endorsed/directed by god and his agents, the bad guys don't get a look in.

(from http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/ex/17.html#13)

and here's a fun site where someone has actually counted the number of people killed by god in the bible. It's 2,270,971+. Reasons vary for the killings but include "A man who picked up sticks on the Sabbath" "complaining" "A prophet for believing another prophet's lie" "for talking to the wrong god." and happy events like Samuel (at God's command) hacking Agag to death. And I thought geography teachers were mean......they got nothing on old god.

http://dwindlinginunbelief.blogspot.com/2006/08/how-many-has-god-killed.html
I hope you don't expect a rebuttal for all of those. Cause you ain't getting one. :)

Just remember, if what the Bible says is true (and I doubt you believe that) then a perfect God has the right to do whatever he wants with his Creation. He didn't have to make us in the first place if he didn't want to. Also, God laid out the rules at the start. If you don't follow them, then you'll have to take the punishment.

And as mhancoc7 said, all of those were taken out of context. Read and understand what was happening at that time before trying to disprove it.

julian67
October 8th, 2007, 08:47 AM
There is no context where killing someone for picking up sticks on a Saturday is actually OK. Or genocide. Or killing thousands of new born babies because they're Egyptian. Right to Life anyone?

"If what the bible says is true....."

That's where the debate stops because reason ends and we run into faith, the adherence to ideas despite no evidence or, more usually, vast bodies of proof that it's untrue. People where I live used to have the same faith in Zeus, Wodin, Thor, Apollo, The Green Man, Toutatis. Their faith is no less credible than yours or anyone else's.

mhancoc7
October 8th, 2007, 09:33 AM
... more usually, vast bodies of proof that it's untrue.

I would love to hear your "proof" that the Bible is not true or that God does not exist.

Jereme

julian67
October 8th, 2007, 09:48 AM
I would love to hear your "proof" that the Bible is not true or that God does not exist.

Jereme

No you wouldn't ;-)

If you accept the timescale of the bible, the story of Adam and Eve and the snake as literal truth then there is no way to debate with you. If you don't accept your own holy book as infallible literal truth then you are already an unbeliever/atheist by the standards set out in that very book and in fact by those biblical laws you should be punished.

OK I should say evidence instead of proof as we all know it's essentially impossible to prove a negative. But anyway the fossil record is a good place to start if you'd like some evidence that the most fundamental act of god (creation) never happened. Once that myth is nailed everything else falls away. You heard of Darwin, you can do your own research and believe in god, spirits, virgin births, talking snakes and so on if you want, you don't need my help.

mhancoc7
October 8th, 2007, 10:41 AM
No you wouldn't ;-)

If you accept the timescale of the bible, the story of Adam and Eve and the snake as literal truth then there is no way to debate with you. If you don't accept your own holy book as infallible literal truth then you are already an unbeliever/atheist by the standards set out in that very book and in fact by those biblical laws you should be punished.

OK I should say evidence instead of proof as we all know it's essentially impossible to prove a negative. But anyway the fossil record is a good place to start if you'd like some evidence that the most fundamental act of god (creation) never happened. Once that myth is nailed everything else falls away. You heard of Darwin, you can do your own research and believe in god, spirits, virgin births, talking snakes and so on if you want, you don't need my help.

I do believe the Bible to be true and infallible. However, I do not take it 100% literal. In my mind to do this is to miss the richness of the Bible. The Bible is a multi-dimensional text that should be read keeping in mind the context that it was written.

I am not impressed with arguments utilizing the works of Darwin. Most of Darwin's theories have proven to be wrong. I do believe in micro-evolution. To not believe in this is denying the obvious. However, I absolutely do not believe in macro-evolution. The leap from a fish to a bird just has NEVER been proven. Yes, there have been some interesting fossils found. Yet, many of the "missing" link fossils have either been proven to be hoaxes or simply a different race or stage of early man. This is still micro-evolution. A small change of a species over time does not lead to the major leap to a new species.

Jereme

popch
October 8th, 2007, 11:07 AM
I absolutely do not believe in macro-evolution. The leap from a fish to a bird just has NEVER been proven.

That's like saying 'I absolutely do not believe in the bible. It has never been proven that God had green hair'.

I find it funny that you want to 'disbelieve' evolution because you will not believe in something which is not even remotely part of it.

julian67
October 8th, 2007, 11:28 AM
I do believe the Bible to be true and infallible. However, I do not take it 100% literal.

Anyone else spot the contradiction? :lolflag: get the rocks out there's gonna be a stoning.....




I am not impressed with arguments utilizing the works of Darwin. Most of Darwin's theories have proven to be wrong.

No, that's not true. Evolution is universally accepted except by those who have a religious agenda and even by many who do call themselves religious.


I do believe in micro-evolution. To not believe in this is denying the obvious. However, I absolutely do not believe in macro-evolution. The leap from a fish to a bird just has NEVER been proven. Yes, there have been some interesting fossils found. Yet, many of the "missing" link fossils have either been proven to be hoaxes or simply a different race or stage of early man. This is still micro-evolution. A small change of a species over time does not lead to the major leap to a new species.

Jereme

So you accept natural selection where it's easily seen and where a person would look very foolish indeed to deny it, but for no apparent reason fail to use the same reasoning to understand the bigger picture.

Nobody is ever claiming a "leap from a fish to a bird". Natural selection is iincremental.


Interview with Richard Dawkins
http://www.beliefnet.com/story/178/story_17889_1.html

What do you wish people knew about evolution?


They need to understand what evolution is about. Many of them don't. I was truly shocked to be told by two separate religious leaders in this country [the U.S.] a few weeks ago--they both said something to the effect that, "I'll believe in evolution when I see a tailed monkey give birth to a human."

That is staggering ignorance of what evolutionary science is about; if they think that's what evolutionists believe, no wonder they're skeptical of it. How can a civilized country have adult people in positions of leadership who know so stunningly little about the leading biological concept?

Of course science uses (amongst other things) the peer review system to assess and quality check research, assertions, theories etc. By sheer co-incidence ;-) this is the way that free software is developed. In fact here's a nice quote from a certain Linus Torvalds


Linux is evolution not intelligent design

and even the Vatican has abandoned Intelligent Design
http://www.iht.com/articles/2006/01/19/news/evolution.php?rss

This is a great article about Linux kernel development: http://www.kroah.com/log/linux/ols_2006_keynote.html

and expands on "Linux is evolution..."


So, what is it? How is the kernel designed and created? Linus answered this question last year when he said the following to a group of companies when he was asked to explain the kernel design process:"Linux is evolution not intelligent design"

This is a really important point that a lot of people don't seem to understand. Actually, I think they understand it, they just really don't like it.

The kernel is not developed with big design documents, feature requests and so on. It evolves over time based on the need at the moment for it. When it first started out, it only supported one type of processor, as that's all it needed to. Later, a second architecture was added, and then more and more as time went on. And each time we added a new architecture, the developers figured out only what was needed to support that specific architecture, and did the work for that. They didn't do the work in the very beginning to allow for the incredible flexibility of different processor types that we have now, as they didn't know what was going to be needed.

The kernel only changes when it needs to, in ways that it needs to change. It has been scaled down to tiny little processors when that need came about, and was scaled way up when other people wanted to do that. And every time that happened, the code was merged back into the tree to let everyone else benefit from the changes, as that's the license that the kernel is released under.

If that isn't a great description of natural selection i don't know what is.

mhancoc7
October 8th, 2007, 11:43 AM
That's like saying 'I absolutely do not believe in the bible. It has never been proven that God had green hair'.

I find it funny that you want to 'disbelieve' evolution because you will not believe in something which is not even remotely part of it.

Belief in God involves Faith.

Belief in evolution involves facts. The fact is that evolution at the macro-level has no facts to back it up.

By the way, I have it on good authority that God's hair is white. :)
Jereme

mhancoc7
October 8th, 2007, 12:25 PM
Anyone else spot the contradiction? :lolflag: get the rocks out there's gonna be a stoning.....

There is no contradiction there. I believe it to be true. This does not mean that I have to take the Bible word for word literal. I mean my wife does not wear a head covering. Again look at the context. The Truth of the Bible is greater than simply the literal interpretation.



No, that's not true. Evolution is universally accepted except by those who have a religious agenda and even by many who do call themselves religious.

I disagree. There is an agenda to push anyone who does not agree or believe in the theory of evolution to the fringes. There is a lot of pressure in the scientific community for people to just get in line. I suspect you also "drink the Kool-Aid" that Al Gore is serving up.

I also understand that evolution is incremental, however at some point the monkey becomes man. If this was true then there should be something tangible in the fossil record. Once they find a definitive example of a true "missing link" between two species then I will take another look at it.

I also do not believe that believing in evolution negates someones belief in God. Again, belief in God and the Bible is a matter of Faith. How God went about creating this Universe is something that none of us will ever fully fathom.

I would love to continue this debate, but I simply do not have the energy. I am fine with you having your opinions. The only issue that I have is when people refer to my Belief as "silly" or "fantasy". I am not saying that you used those exact words but the implication is clear.

Jereme

Nano Geek
October 8th, 2007, 02:38 PM
There is no context where killing someone for picking up sticks on a Saturday is actually OK. Or genocide. Or killing thousands of new born babies because they're Egyptian. Right to Life anyone?

"If what the bible says is true....."

That's where the debate stops because reason ends and we run into faith, the adherence to ideas despite no evidence or, more usually, vast bodies of proof that it's untrue. People where I live used to have the same faith in Zeus, Wodin, Thor, Apollo, The Green Man, Toutatis. Their faith is no less credible than yours or anyone else's.I cannot provide the context for all of those example for you so you will have to do it yourself.
I will say that during those times, life in general was just rougher for everyone. Wars were not uncommon, and violence isn't what it is today. Also, the Israelites were just a small nation. If they didn't have God's protection, they would be killed by an enemy nation. So strict punishment needed to be enacted; like they do during disasters. You know "thieves will be shot." It's rough, but necessary.

I think what mhancoc7 was saying was that the Bible isn't supposed to be takes as 100% literal. Some parts of it are visions people had or proverbs.

I'm curious though. If you don't believe in the Bible or God, then why do you fight so hard to make us fall in line with you beliefs?
Why not just leave us poor fools alone and move on?

One last thing. If you are going to debate with us, then please answer all of our comments. I have seen you several times here skip part of what we said and move on with out answering us or just snip a small comment and move on from there. Please try to answer every argument.

julian67
October 8th, 2007, 03:24 PM
There is no contradiction there. I believe it to be true. This does not mean that I have to take the Bible word for word literal. I mean my wife does not wear a head covering. Again look at the context. The Truth of the Bible is greater than simply the literal interpretation.




I disagree. There is an agenda to push anyone who does not agree or believe in the theory of evolution to the fringes. There is a lot of pressure in the scientific community for people to just get in line. I suspect you also "drink the Kool-Aid" that Al Gore is serving up.

I also understand that evolution is incremental, however at some point the monkey becomes man. If this was true then there should be something tangible in the fossil record. Once they find a definitive example of a true "missing link" between two species then I will take another look at it.

I also do not believe that believing in evolution negates someones belief in God. Again, belief in God and the Bible is a matter of Faith. How God went about creating this Universe is something that none of us will ever fully fathom.

I would love to continue this debate, but I simply do not have the energy. I am fine with you having your opinions. The only issue that I have is when people refer to my Belief as "silly" or "fantasy". I am not saying that you used those exact words but the implication is clear.

Jereme

No. At no point did a monkey become a man. Nor has anybody ever claimed such a thing except for religionists who set this up to shoot it down. We have a common ancestor with the apes. As an analogy I have common ancestors with my cousins, nephews and nieces. At no point have I become them or have they become me. If this is actually your understanding of natural selection then I can see why you cannot continue this debate.

I haven't described your beliefs as fantasy or silly and these are not the exact words I'd choose because that would depend on knowing you as an individual, which I don't. But I do see your beliefs as only beliefs and nothing more. Unsubstantiated beliefs which by definition are not open to rational examination or discussion or challenge due to their supposed perfection, immutability, eternity, sacred origin etc. Conversely scientific knowledge is constantly subjected to these tests. Your type of belief is not any more worthy of protection or reverence than any other fantastic claim. The word fantastic is non-judgemental and appropriate to describe virgin birth, resurrection, voice from burning bush, transubstantiation, talking snakes, the garden of eden and any other event or place that is claimed to have happened or be existing beyond the jurisdiction of the laws of nature.

Lord Illidan
October 8th, 2007, 06:04 PM
No, that's not true. Evolution is universally accepted except by those who have a religious agenda and even by many who do call themselves religious.

Catholics believe in evolution as well. I was educated in a jesuit school, and there was no "intelligent design" nonsense. God created the world, evolution was one of his tools. In fact, it goes along with the aspect that He left us in freedom to do right/wrong.

Nano Geek
October 8th, 2007, 07:11 PM
Catholics believe in evolution as well. I was educated in a jesuit school, and there was no "intelligent design" nonsense. God created the world, evolution was one of his tools. In fact, it goes along with the aspect that He left us in freedom to do right/wrong.So you don't believe the Creation story of a six day creation or the story of the fall of man?

If you think those are false, then why do you believe the rest of the Bible?

Lord Illidan
October 8th, 2007, 07:18 PM
So you don't believe the Creation story of a six day creation or the story of the fall of man?

If you think those are false, then why do you believe the rest of the Bible?

Regarding the six day creation, it is a symbol, nothing more. One must remember that the authors of that time had no concept of such a thing as evolution or of science. They wrote with the knowledge of that time. Their scientific knowledge was limited. The Bible does not aim to teach us science, or geography, or indeed, laws but spirituality. Fundamentalism is wrong..
The same goes for the fall of man. Man fell because in his arrogance and greed he strove to reach God in his knowledge.

I hope I don't sound like I'm preaching but I'm fedup of ignorant forum users dumping Christians into one basket, and assuming we're all idiots. If you think that, you've never met a Jesuit.

Nano Geek
October 8th, 2007, 07:33 PM
Regarding the six day creation, it is a symbol, nothing more. One must remember that the authors of that time had no concept of such a thing as evolution or of science. They wrote with the knowledge of that time. Their scientific knowledge was limited. The Bible does not aim to teach us science, or geography, or indeed, laws but spirituality. Fundamentalism is wrong..
The same goes for the fall of man. Man fell because in his arrogance and greed he strove to reach God in his knowledge.

I hope I don't sound like I'm preaching but I'm fedup of ignorant forum users dumping Christians into one basket, and assuming we're all idiots. If you think that, you've never met a Jesuit.Firstly, I am a Christian and I don't believe that Christians are idiots. I'm sorry if I made that impression.

But to your point

If you are going to say that about the Creation story, then you could apply that same thinking to other parts of the Bible as well.

Of course this isn't true, but one could argue that if the story of Creation is actually evolution, then Jonah wasn't swallowed by a big fish but was actually abducted by underwater aliens.

Of course that's ridicules, but you get my point.
If you are going to say some parts of the Bible are true and some are just symbols, then how do you know what is and isn't a symbol?

popch
October 8th, 2007, 08:42 PM
So you don't believe the Creation story of a six day creation or the story of the fall of man?

If you think those are false, then why do you believe the rest of the Bible?

Which one of the two variants is one to believe? The one where man was created before the plants, or the one where the plants came before man?

Lord Illidan
October 8th, 2007, 09:22 PM
Which one of the two variants is one to believe? The one where man was created before the plants, or the one where the plants came before man?

You're free to chose. Although in both the plants came before man..so I don't really get what you're talking about.


Firstly, I am a Christian and I don't believe that Christians are idiots. I'm sorry if I made that impression.

But to your point

If you are going to say that about the Creation story, then you could apply that same thinking to other parts of the Bible as well.

Of course this isn't true, but one could argue that if the story of Creation is actually evolution, then Jonah wasn't swallowed by a big fish but was actually abducted by underwater aliens.

Of course that's ridicules, but you get my point.
If you are going to say some parts of the Bible are true and some are just symbols, then how do you know what is and isn't a symbol?

I didn't mean you..I know you're a Christian from previous posts. I am referring to posts I've read all over the Internet, starting with Digg, and even in this forum.

Anyway, how do you know what is an allegory/symbol? You have to read the text for an allegorical point of view, at least that's what I remember from religious studies. And that's where theologians come in,

Nano Geek
October 8th, 2007, 09:26 PM
You're free to chose. Although in both the plants came before man..so I don't really get what you're talking about.



I didn't mean you..I know you're a Christian from previous posts. I am referring to posts I've read all over the Internet, starting with Digg, and even in this forum.

Anyway, how do you know what is an allegory/symbol? You have to read the text for an allegorical point of view, at least that's what I remember from religious studies. And that's where theologians come in,But anything in the Bible could be taken as allegorical.
Why do you believe that the Creation story is an allegory while other parts of the Bible are not?
It doesn't say anything anywhere that makes me think that it is an allegory. What proof do you have that it is?

julian67
October 8th, 2007, 11:16 PM
ooh look a schism

Metaleks
November 4th, 2007, 08:25 AM
No one's posted in this thread in a while now! C'mon! Debates are fun! Especially religious ones!


I do believe the Bible to be true and infallible. However, I do not take it 100% literal.
You cannot pick and choose what to believe! Why choose to believe Jesus and not...say...Adam being made out of sand?


However, I absolutely do not believe in macro-evolution. The leap from a fish to a bird just has NEVER been proven.
This is because it's out of our range of measurable time. No one is willing to wait a million years ;) Also, a very important reason you won't see this is because...well what would a half-fish-half-bird mate with? It would die right away! The whole point of evolution is to ensure survival. The changes have to be gradual and small so a species can still mate.


A small change of a species over time does not lead to the major leap to a new species.
Yes, but successive small changes to a species over time does.

Nano Geek
November 4th, 2007, 03:59 PM
No one's posted in this thread in a while now! C'mon! Debates are fun! Especially religious ones!


You cannot pick and choose what to believe! Why choose to believe Jesus and not...say...Adam being made out of sand?I think he's saying that you don't take visions or poems like the Psalms literally. Because they are visions and poems, they weren't meant to be taken literally but figuratively.



This is because it's out of our range of measurable time. No one is willing to wait a million years ;) Also, a very important reason you won't see this is because...well what would a half-fish-half-bird mate with? It would die right away! The whole point of evolution is to ensure survival. The changes have to be gradual and small so a species can still mate.


Yes, but successive small changes to a species over time does.But what do you do when you have an animal that actually had a helpful mutation, such as growing the start of a finger on his fin. Then he mates, and his children don't have that finger because it wasn't the dominant gene. Now it's lost forever and they will have to wait until another fish develops it. To me it seems like that would go on in an endless cycle.

aysiu
November 4th, 2007, 06:11 PM
Not taking something literally does not mean you aren't taking it seriously.

When Jesus told parables, they were not meant to be taken literally (by definition, a parable is not factual recount), but they were meant to illustrate broader truths or spiritual principles.


Once there was a man who had two servants
What were their names?
What?
What were they called?
I don't know. Anyway, this man had two servants...
How can you not know?
All right. They were called Simon and Adrian.
Oh, you said you didn't know!

p_quarles
November 4th, 2007, 07:12 PM
But what do you do when you have an animal that actually had a helpful mutation, such as growing the start of a finger on his fin. Then he mates, and his children don't have that finger because it wasn't the dominant gene. Now it's lost forever and they will have to wait until another fish develops it. To me it seems like that would go on in an endless cycle.
Recessive genes are actually somewhat more likely to survive than harmful dominant genes. In the example you gave, it's entirely possible that this gene could be passed on to all of the creature's offspring without expressing itself in them. It's also possible for that gene to be carried on and spread more widely over several generations, and become a widespread trait in the population. This considerably raises the chances that this recessive gene will express itself, which brings it into the natural selection game.

Just wanted to point out that a gene's status as dominant or recessive isn't the only factor in deciding whether it expresses itself -- a recessive gene is only "recessed" if there's a dominant gene on the opposite side of the chromosome. Male pattern baldness and phenylketonuria (sp?) are both caused by recessive genes, but they both express themselves frequently.

TopV
February 20th, 2008, 05:58 AM
This has more to do with the individual/family being able to control their own lives and what they have to be exposed to. (And we all have the the right to) Without having "garbage" forced upon them. The internet has become perverse and no matter what website you are using they run advertisements that you might not want to see. This is just a way to enable an individual or family to utilize programs and the web for all the wonderful and helpful things it has to offer and keep out the "garbage". No matter what I decide garbage is for me.

anxfisa
November 11th, 2008, 03:59 AM
there are pagan books and stuff but i don't think there is any software about it.

There is some open source astrology software, Numerology, I Ching, things most Pagans like and use in their Magickal and Spiritual practices. Also things like a "Book of Shadows," program I have seen, and other things specifically for keeping track of the Pagan and Wiccan holidays, full moons, equinoxes, solstices. Who does one talk to BTW to get these added to the "Add/remove programs" program for Ubuntu?

I have also seen virtual temples, which I think would be neat to see some friends of other faiths design for their own traditions. Maybe a program that lets you light a virtual candle and pray a virtual rosary. Or make virtual offerings to the Buddha before a meditation.

I am not Muslim or Christian but I added the Quran and Bible programs, and the prayer times program just for my own information. I would LOVE more language study programs for Ubuntu. Hebrew would be cool. Or Greek, Latin.

If the Christian edition would develop these I hope they would be available to all of us.

Every addition to Ubuntu makes it richer for everyone in my humble opinion.

LVX!

wildman4god
November 13th, 2008, 03:02 PM
I am not much into debates of any kind, but the only thing I want to say about ubuntu CE is that as a Christian myself, I don't see the point of a ubuntu version geared towards Christians, I use regular ubuntu, I see the point of derivatives that use different desktop environments as they are not easily switched from one to another but for Christians to have a version just for our selves I think sends the message that Christians (or any "religious" persons) are too stupid to do things on their own, which is not true. Also I think having a "Christian version" of ubuntu is the same thing as me buying a whole lot of christian themed clothes and bling and walking into any public place wearing it all, It is a turn off to others because It sends the message that your (non-believers) stuff isn't good enough for "A Christian" so I need my own stuff made just for me and my religion, as Christians we need to follow the example of Jesus and what did he do when he was walking the earth? He hung out in bars and went to weddings and parties, he didn't just stay with the "religious crowd" so we as Christians in my opinion need to stay away from "christian" themed stuff.

Torchmann
December 17th, 2008, 08:37 AM
Malaka akbar my freinds:)
Maybe a religio-centric UBUNTU distribution like BOO-BUNNTU could help people use their computers better
I could propose some religious add ons or application replacements:

An inquisition drive washer that cleans your computer by selectively deleting secular files by algorithms that are alchemically designed to disregard the files importance to the systems functionality or useability.

A bookburner gui that strikes documents not digitally signed by the magistrates of the particular order with the skull and bones Icon and sends them to the trash with animated flames to instill the mortal user with due respect for the supreme judgement of the magistrates.

Majic underwear security suite that locks your vital files in a secure encryption accessible only on the Sabbath.

The "Batil Aqueedah Qudsee Najaasa" aka B.A.Q.N. 'BACON firewall to keep the infidels out of your system and to make sure you aren't attacked by scientific method.

C.A.D. which is the the Chakra Astral Discarnator that plots beautiful points in hyperdimensional space in a way that cannot connect the dots.

"Will of the lord antivirus" if you got a virus you deseve it.

Walî the web browser with the Tâghût pop-up filter.

Taqleed qwick help and FAQ.

And the EYE OF HORUS spyware filter. :lolflag:


What is so unclean about UBUNTU? absolutely nothing. It is an indiscriminate utility. designed for it's purpose; to enable a person beyond his physical nature. A software construct for your mind and senses allowing you to reach more of your community through the computer appliance.I aint preaching but I'm going to speak to you in our own language from your side of the table here. The functional neutrality of UBUNTU and the lack therefore of religious artefact in it is in step with everything God has made for all of his creation he has called good. UBUNTU has a presence and functionality subject to the free will of a person as is nature to the will of God. Free will is authoritarian license given to people by their creator. He has declared that no-one comes to him but through his son so who is anyone to stand in that place between you and your lord? that person would be a false god.
Anything made by man out of that which God has made which does not force one to do evil is either neutral or good, it cannot by it's nature be evil. It is only that which binds a man to evil or binds him from free will that is corrupt (except for personal corruption)and this would have to involve the impingement of another's will(not gods)on a person.

):P Thank you GNU community for a wonderful and most excellent GNU distribution

"It is what comes out of a man that defiles him"

BatsotO
December 29th, 2008, 02:18 PM
It doesnt help much if you pick one distro, put this and that to match your religion, and give it to people of your religion. Religion is between you and your God or Gods, or whatever you worship, not between you and your desktop. If I install zekr on ubuntuce will it conflict with gnomesword, or vice versa? if it should than let's call it a bug.
And the fact that when using religious ubuntu, I have to del my pr0n, bothers me :lolflag:

earthpigg
December 29th, 2008, 05:16 PM
im suprised the mods let this turn into a theological debate.

VON_CAPO
December 30th, 2008, 06:24 AM
I find all this thing amazing.
We are in the 21th century and some people still stick to superstition. :confused:

Delever
December 30th, 2008, 09:36 AM
I find all this thing amazing.
We are in the 21th century and some people still stick to superstition. :confused:

Yeah, some even believe in cloud computing.

koffeinöverdos
December 30th, 2008, 10:25 AM
I find all this thing amazing.
We are in the 21th century and some people still stick to superstition. :confused:
+1

I don't even know how these people manage to use anything except windows in the first place. If you're too stupid to download some bible/prayer programs on standard ubuntu, you're probably too stupid to use ubuntu anyway. And we're talking about the most beginner-friendly linux distribution out there.

aysiu
June 4th, 2009, 07:24 PM
After linking to and then re-reading this thread, I think it should be closed. Too much stuff about religion and atheism mixed in with the general objections to religiously-themed Ubuntu remixes.

There are other open threads dealing with only the latter subject.