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shamoon2
June 18th, 2016, 12:00 PM
Hello I am new here, and new to Ubuntu recently I purchased Used PC with Specs Core i3 4th Gen Processor 8GB Ram Dell Optiplex 3020. Interestingly i found UBUNTU monogram on my CPU . What would you recommend me to do should install unbuntu or windows 10 on it.

xen3
June 18th, 2016, 02:47 PM
I think that would depend entirely on what you want.

Windows 10 is extremely buggy from my perspective but new and flashy.

Ubuntu, or Linux in general, is even more buggy, but easier to live with, and in the end might provide for some stability as opposed to Windows 10, at least from my perspective and experience.

The performance or speed of your CPU is not going to be a concern as to what choice you make. Regards.

ajgreeny
June 18th, 2016, 02:57 PM
Hi shamoon2 and welcome to the3 forums.

Thread moved to Installation & Upgrades.

In answer to your question I'm tempted to say "install whatever you are happy using".

Have you used Ubuntu before or will you be totally new to it?
Do you know Windows 10?

You can easily try Ubuntu in a live system before you make a decision, to see if you like what you see. If you have some Windows software that is essential to you then you may need a dual boot system where you can try both OSs as it is quite likely that the Windows software will not be able to run on Ubuntu, even using wine, which does allow some to run well. With those specs you could also consider using Ubuntu as the main OS with Windows running virtually in VirtualBox.

Tell us more about what you use your computer for and we may be able to give you better advice than your very basic and general question allows.

grahammechanical
June 18th, 2016, 03:00 PM
And you are asking this on a Ubuntu forum? :)

Does this machine have an existing operating system? Do you want to keep any existing operating system. It will make a difference to how simple or how complex the installation of Ubuntu will be.

For me I would see three options. (a) Buy Windows. (b) Use a pirated version of Windows. (c) Install Ubuntu. It is free to download and it is legal. I made my choice back in 2007.

We do need to be willing to learn to use an operating system that is different to Windows. All computer operating systems do the same things but they do it differently. Ubuntu is Free and Open Source Software (FOSS) and FOSS developers have their own visions as to how an operating system should work and look. We must allow them the freedom to live their own visions.

Regards

RobGoss
June 18th, 2016, 03:19 PM
Hello and welcome, I think it's really what you like this is a Linux forum and most of us here are Linux user. Windows is a whole different ball game and nothing like Windows much harder to understand but yet very enjoyable for me and many others

shamoon2
June 18th, 2016, 07:30 PM
I think that would depend entirely on what you want.

Windows 10 is extremely buggy from my perspective but new and flashy.

Ubuntu, or Linux in general, is even more buggy, but easier to live with, and in the end might provide for some stability as opposed to Windows 10, at least from my perspective and experience.

The performance or speed of your CPU is not going to be a concern as to what choice you make. Regards.

Xen3 I agree with your point that it depends on me. I have no experience of windows 10. On my old PC it was windows 7 installed on it, which was running fine before up-gradation.


Hi shamoon2 and welcome to the3 forums.

Thread moved to Installation & Upgrades.

In answer to your question I'm tempted to say "install whatever you are happy using".

Have you used Ubuntu before or will you be totally new to it?
Do you know Windows 10?

You can easily try Ubuntu in a live system before you make a decision, to see if you like what you see. If you have some Windows software that is essential to you then you may need a dual boot system where you can try both OSs as it is quite likely that the Windows software will not be able to run on Ubuntu, even using wine, which does allow some to run well. With those specs you could also consider using Ubuntu as the main OS with Windows running virtually in VirtualBox.

Tell us more about what you use your computer for and we may be able to give you better advice than your very basic and general question allows.
Thanks AJGREENY for correcting the thread to right place. I was using windows 7 on my old machine. Now Windows 10 is all over, I am totally new to ubuntu infact when i see the logo on my CPU then i searched about it and find it a new OS.

Option of dual boot is good i can run windows and ubuntu at the same time. I run Adobe Photoshop for basic image touch ups, Ccleaner for junk removal, bitdefender for security and some other utility programs. For media i prefer to watch directly via youtube instead of downloading and installing media softwares.


And you are asking this on a Ubuntu forum? :)

Does this machine have an existing operating system? Do you want to keep any existing operating system. It will make a difference to how simple or how complex the installation of Ubuntu will be.

For me I would see three options. (a) Buy Windows. (b) Use a pirated version of Windows. (c) Install Ubuntu. It is free to download and it is legal. I made my choice back in 2007.

We do need to be willing to learn to use an operating system that is different to Windows. All computer operating systems do the same things but they do it differently. Ubuntu is Free and Open Source Software (FOSS) and FOSS developers have their own visions as to how an operating system should work and look. We must allow them the freedom to live their own visions.

Regards
I don't know about it, Every thing was clean when i got this. I think i should give it a try to ubuntu as free operating system.


Hello and welcome, I think it's really what like this is a Linux forum and most of us here are Linux user. Windows is a whole different ball game and nothing like Windows much harder to understand but yet very enjoyable for me and many others


Thanks RobGoss for welcoming me here on the forum.

grahammechanical
June 18th, 2016, 09:24 PM
We can run Ubuntu in a live session without installing anything to the hard disk. Then we can try it out.

http://www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop/burn-a-dvd-on-windows

http://www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop/create-a-usb-stick-on-windows

http://www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop/try-ubuntu-before-you-install

http://www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop/install-ubuntu-desktop

(http://www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop/install-ubuntu-desktop)If there is no other operating system on the machine then the easiest way to install Ubuntu is to select the Erase disk and install option as shown in image #3 Allocate drive space in the instructions page.

Ubuntu is free but not cheap. It is quality software.

Regards.

gordintoronto
June 19th, 2016, 01:02 AM
If you decide to dual-boot, you need to install Windows first. During installation, you can give it half of the hard drive.

For basic image touchups, GIMP is free and works well. Linux does not need anything like ccleaner or bitdefender. If you are used to Windows 7, Ubuntu will look a lot different. Kubuntu, Xubuntu, Ubuntu Mate or (especially) Linux Mint will look much more familiar. All of them provide a complete computing environment, and it's easy to add other applications -- but you do it differently than in Windows.

shamoon2
June 19th, 2016, 09:05 AM
We can run Ubuntu in a live session without installing anything to the hard disk. Then we can try it out.

http://www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop/burn-a-dvd-on-windows

http://www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop/create-a-usb-stick-on- (http://www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop/create-a-usb-stick-on-windows)windows (http://softlay.net/operating-system/windows-7-download.html)

http://www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop/try-ubuntu-before-you-install

http://www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop/install-ubuntu-desktop

(http://www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop/install-ubuntu-desktop)If there is no other operating system on the machine then the easiest way to install Ubuntu is to select the Erase disk and install option as shown in image #3 Allocate drive space in the instructions page.

Ubuntu is free but not cheap. It is quality software.

Regards.
Let me check these links


If you decide to dual-boot, you need to install Windows first. During installation, you can give it half of the hard drive.

For basic image touchups, GIMP is free and works well. Linux does not need anything like ccleaner or bitdefender. If you are used to Windows 7, Ubuntu will look a lot different. Kubuntu, Xubuntu, Ubuntu Mate or (especially) Linux Mint will look much more familiar. All of them provide a complete computing environment, and it's easy to add other applications -- but you do it differently than in Windows.


Ok gordintoronto i will install windows first then i will install ubuntu. So all i need to install GIMP image editing program.

RobGoss
June 19th, 2016, 12:11 PM
If you are a average user then Linux Ubuntu will serve your purpose just fine, over the years Ubuntu has gotten Windows friendly and very easy to use right our of the box. I don't think you'll have much trouble getting to know how things work although it will be a learning curve plus with this forum and the people behind it will make life much easier..

Mark Phelps
June 19th, 2016, 07:04 PM
Word of CAUTION ...

Win10 installs with the new hibernation option, FastStartup, enabled by default. This means that even after you shutdown Windows, its filesystems remain mounted -- preventing Linux from mounting them, and in many cases, even seeing them. This means that when you boot the Ubuntu installer, it's likely NOT to even see the Win10 installation.

What should solve that problem is disabling FastStartup in Win10.

There are two ways to disable FastStartup in Win8/10; (1) through the Control Panel, and (2) through an elevated command prompt.

Control Panel - Open Control Panel --> Power Options.
Select "Choose what the power buttons do"
Select "Change settings that are currently unavailable"
At the bottom of the Window, under Shutdown settings, uncheck the box regarding fast startup

Elevated command prompt - run the following command:
REG ADD "HKLM\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Control\Session Manager\Power" /V HiberbootEnabled /T REG_dWORD /D 0 /F

In both cases, reboot Windows.

NOW, FastStartup is disabled.