Dreamlinux Talk

[RAV TUX]

2006-07-16 NEW • Distribution Release: Dreamlinux 2.0 WORKS (http://distrowatch.com/3575) http://distrowatch.com/images/icon-large/dreamlinux.png (http://distrowatch.com/dreamlinux) The Dreamlinux Project Team announced version 2.0 of Dreamlinux (http://distrowatch.com/dreamlinux), a Brazilian Linux distribution based on the XFce desktop: "called WORKS and it brings the most known Linux apps for a production environment, like OpenOffice, Inkscape, Gimp, etc. Full support to multimedia, automatic detection of video cards and monitors, and the version 2.5 of MKDistro, tool for distros' building. This Dreamlinux version is the result of making use of various technologies that came from many different distros, like Kanotix, Elive, Morphix and Debian. With a 2.6.14 Kanotix Kernel, the distro also counts with Xorg 6.9, support for ALSA and many refinements and improvements, beyond the customized XFCE 4.4 environment and with exclusive icons for this distro." More information (http://www.dreamlinux.com.br/english/saiba-works.html) can be found at the project's homepage (http://www.dreamlinux.com.br/). Download (MD5) (http://www.dreamlinux.com.br/english/download.html): DLxfce2.0_WORKS-060712en.iso (http://www.linorg.usp.br/isos/dreamlinux/DLxfce2.0_WORKS-060712en.iso) (611MB). An experimental Dreamlinux 2.0 XGL edition (http://www.dreamlinux.com.br/english/saiba-xgl.html) was also released.
http://www.dreamlinux.com.br/english/imagens/download-ico_box.jpg Dreamlinux 2.0 WORKS Edition 625 MB
http://www.dreamlinux.com.br/english/imagens/download.jpg (http://www.linorg.usp.br/isos/dreamlinux/DLxfce2.0_WORKS-060712en.iso) MIRROR 1 english version http://www.dreamlinux.com.br/english/imagens/download.jpg (http://streaming.serv.iv.fapesp.br:8000/vod/dreamlinux/dreamlinux-works/DLxfce2.0_WORKS-060712en.iso) MIRROR 2 english version
md5sum: 41bb3fb5379c93b6be692eaa64df6ec5


http://www.dreamlinux.com.br/english/imagens/download-ico_box.jpg Dreamlinux 2.0 XGL ( Experimental ) Edition 636 MB
http://www.dreamlinux.com.br/english/imagens/download.jpg (http://streaming.serv.iv.fapesp.br:8000/vod/dreamlinux/dreamlinux-works/DLxfce2.0_XGL-060712en.iso) MIRROR 1 english version
md5sum: d792ff6009c9dc5a30fedb4182911107


Note: This version is experimental. We do not guarantee complete success in your machine. For more details, see the especific information website of this version:
http://www.dreamlinux.com.br/english/saiba-xgl.html

[RAV TUX]

about an hour left on each download.

[hizaguchi]

So, how did it go? It looks like OS-X minus the subtle refinement that makes a Mac such a joy to use, but I've read several times that it is an extemely polished distro so I'm really curious. :) How does it compare to Ubuntu? Is it fast (the kind of fast XFCE should be)?

[RAV TUX]

So, how did it go? It looks like OS-X minus the subtle refinement that makes a Mac such a joy to use, but I've read several times that it is an extemely polished distro so I'm really curious. :) How does it compare to Ubuntu? Is it fast (the kind of fast XFCE should be)?

Yes, it is superfast and having used OS X I rate it better then OS X.

I still prefer a Gnome desktop though.

"Dreamlinux XFCE 2.0 WORKS Edition" is the beginning of a dream come true.

I always say "If you want to see the future of Linux try Dreamlinux today"....I would expand this to say "If you want to see the future of Operating Systems try Dreamlinux today".

[_simon_]

Just looking through the site, must say I like their graphics. Especially this one:

[hizaguchi]

Well, yeah, it's Linux so of course it's better than OS-X. But do you mean the interface is better? As in usability, not appearance?

What makes it the "future of operating systems"? Have they done anything new or interesting beyond the interface?

I ask because I was about to switch back to Arch, so this would be a good time to try Dreamlinux if it is worth my time. The only thing stopping me is that the focus seems to be on looks and I've not found any deeper information... like is it stable, up to date, upgradable (like Ubuntu, not Suse), and is the package selection reasonably large? I've gone through alot of distros lately. Is there anything that really makes this one special?

[RAV TUX]

Well, yeah, it's Linux so of course it's better than OS-X. But do you mean the interface is better? As in usability, not appearance?

What makes it the "future of operating systems"? Have they done anything new or interesting beyond the interface?

I ask because I was about to switch back to Arch, so this would be a good time to try Dreamlinux if it is worth my time. The only thing stopping me is that the focus seems to be on looks and I've not found any deeper information... like is it stable, up to date, upgradable (like Ubuntu, not Suse), and is the package selection reasonably large? I've gone through alot of distros lately. Is there anything that really makes this one special?

It is new I would wait a bit, most support isn't in English, unless you want to be on the beginning of cutting edge, you may want to wait.

They are going to upgrades every 6 months like Ubuntu, based on MKDistro tool you can essentially build your own Distro from scratch or base it on any existing Distro, Arch for example. It is upgradable like Ubuntu.

What is Dreamlinux ?

• Dreamlinux is a modern and modular Linux system that can be run directly from the CD and optionally be easily installed onto your HD.

• Dreamlinux comes with a selection of the best applications designed to meet mostly of your daily needs.

• Dreamlinux is based on Debian and Morphix, which means it takes advantages of their best features and adds its own modern development tools.

• Being a modular system Dreamlinux allows you to add new modules comprising your preferred applications and build a new Distro that meet your requirements by means of its revolutionary MKDistro tool.

Using Dreamlinux

• Insert the Dreamlinux Live CD on the CD-ROM/DVD drive on your computer and boot up the system. Dreamlinux will be started. If necessary configure your BIOS to boot up via the CD-ROM drive.

• Dreamlinux can be started in Brazilian Portuguese, English or Spanish (additional languages coming soon...) by means of choosing the appropriate language on the boot menu.

• In the rare case Dreamlinux fails in automatically detect your hardware it suffices to use one of the several available options on the boot menu.

• If desired DreamLinux can be installed on your HD fast and easily. Execute the option HD Install via Menu or Control Panel. See what you can do running Dreamlinux, both as a Live CD or installed on HD:
Navigate on the Internet using Firefox, text editing using Abiword, create spreadsheets using Gnumeric, download pictures from a digital camera using Gview, open pdf files with Evince, draw with Inkscape, change images and photos with GimpShop, record CDs and DVDs with Gnomebaker (only if HD installed), transfer mp3 files to your iPod with Gtkpod, listen to mp3 music while working with Xmms, watch videos with Mplayer and several other tasks such as navigate on an internal network, access different computers, transfer files among them and yet be able to use the Dreamlinux CD as a recovery system, when your main system is stuck or damaged!
And for your satisfaction, believe it, you can count on more than 15 thousand different packages of free software available for you to install on your computer by means of the Debian repositories! And this is done automatically!
You just run Synaptic and it will take care of searching for the application want and install itor update your system with a newer release. With Synaptic your system won't be damaged since it will be responsible for verifying dependencies among the packages.


So just like Ubuntu it uses the synaptic package manager and is based on Ubuntu, since it also based on Morphix which is based on Knoppix it has a superior hardware dectection to ubuntu.


For example on my new computer which has Intel EM64T dual-core 64bit processor I have yet to get Ubuntu to run but have NO problems with Dreamlinux, fastest load of the live CD of any Linux Distro.


It is cutting edge especially with it's exclusive MKDistro Tool, but like I said if you feel it's too new you may want to wait.

http://www.dreamlinux.com.br/english/imagens/dashboard-works.jpg

Download 620MB
Read more... (http://www.dreamlinux.com.br/english/saiba-works.html)

Screenshots
http://www.dreamlinux.com.br/english/imagens/screenshot-2.jpg (http://www.dreamlinux.com.br/english/saiba-screen.html)

[RAV TUX]

THE DREAMLINUX PROJECT

The Dreamlinux Project addresses, as one of its main goals, the development of specific tools to allow anyone, despite his level of technical knowledge, being able to design and produce a Linux Distro that meets all his/her requirements . The Project also aims to research, learn and share all the knowledge produced during the Dreamlinux development process.


THE MORPHIX OPTION
After several and careful research the Dreamlinux Project has decided to use the Morphix Philosophy as well as its Base Module
as a start point, since Morphix has become a modern and strong project with similar goals such as the development of tools that can help in building modular Distros.

MKDISTRO:
THE TOOL FOR BUILDING DISTROS
In order to turn the dream into reality, the MkDistro Tool was born. MkDistro has evolved to an excellent tool for building and remastering
modules and whole Distros . It is developed by one of our
co-founders, nelsongs (Nelson Gomes da Silveira), leveraging the Morphix approach of modules and his previous works on developing the HD remastering scripts for the Kurumin, Knoppix, Kanotix and Beatrix Live CD Distros .


MKDISTRO PHILOSOPHY
The philosophy of the Mkdistro process is very simple, logical and practical and, by correctly applying its rules, it achieves, as a final result, a winner process. Its basic idea comprises planning and building pieces of a system that will be, at the end, put together and configured as a whole, resulting in a harmonic set regarding his visual, performance and strength.

a) Mkdistro: it' s the basic tool responsible for launching, through its auto explained menus and dialog boxes, all the processes regarding the build of Distros. It's easy and intuitive to manage. Actually MkDistro so far comprises a set of 04 ( four ) scripts, mkdistro.sh, mkdistro_main.sh, mkdistro_clean.sh and mkcd.sh, with the main one (mkdistro.sh) using the others in some specific phase of the work.
b) Base-Module (BM): it's a slimmed down knoppix-like image comprising a Morphix patched Linux kernel, kernel modules and the whole set of applications and scripts needed to detect, configure and initialize the system hardware found in the computer.

c) Base Main Module (BMM or Working Module): it's a complete debian file system made up via a debootstrap procedure and the addition of very basic and essential applications designed to serve as a baseline for the full development of the Distro's Main Module.
d) Distro Main Module (DMM): it's the final module of the Distro you developed. In other words, it's practically the whole Distro, made up on top of the Basic Main Module chosen . This module will be later combined with the Basic Module in order to become the final iso image of your Distro.
e) Iso Image: it's the resulting image from the union between the Basic Module and the Distro's Main Module . So, this image is your final operating system which, after burned onto a CD, will become your new Live CD Linux Distro, capable of not only be run directly from the CD (provided you have set up your Computer's bios) as well as be installed onto your computer's HD.


The Dreamlinux Team plan, build ad make available in the Dreamlinux repository (www.dreamlinux.com.br/downloads (http://www.dreamlinux.com.br/downloads)) Base Modules, Basic Main Modules and the MkDistro tool necessary for building up a new Distro.

Using one Base Module image, one Basic Main Module file and the MkDistro script , anyone can build his/her own Distro according to his/her needs and preferences.
The MkDistro process basically flows following these steps:
1) Conect to the Internet.
2) Download the Mkdistro compacted file mkdistro2.0.tgz from our repository(www.dreamlinux.com.br/downloads/mkdistro/mkdistro2.0.tgz (http://www.dreamlinux.com.br/downloads/mkdistro/mkdistro2.0.tgz)) into a directory of your choice. After you have downloaded it, decompress it using this command: tar -xvzf mkdistro2.0.tgz.

Rmk: you can also download the script via wget (wget http://www.dreamlinux.com.be/downloads/mkdistro/mkdistro2.0.tgz) directly to the directory you are located in.
3) Open a terminal and go to the directory into which you have decompressed the mkdistro2.0.tar.gz and execute the mkdistro.sh script (./mkdistro.sh or sh mkdistro.sh).
Rmk: Some Distros, like Kanotix, don't allow you to execute an instance of a graphic application inside a terminal unless you have released the terminal for that. The message usually shown is somewhat like:
Xlib: connection to ":0.0" refused by server
Xlib: No protocol specified
Xdialog: Error initializing the GUI...
Do you run under X11 with GTK+ v1.2.0+ installed ?
root@KanotixBox:/media/sda13/mkDistro#
If that's your case, just run, as a regular user, not root, the following command: xhost +
Then, try it again.
4) Once MkDistro is up and running you'll find self-explained dialogs containing menus that will drive you through the several alternatives available, which are summarized below:

A - New Distro: his menu option will guide you through the whole process of building up a new Distro making use of a Base Module (www.dreamlinux.com.br/downloads/bases (http://www.dreamlinux.com.br/downloads/bases)) and one selected Basic Main Modules build up by the Dreamlinux developers and available on our repository at www.dreamlinux.com.br/downloads/baremain (http://www.dreamlinux.com.br/downloads/baremain) (old ones, soon to be deprecated) or www.dreamlinux.com.br/downloads/basicmainmods (http://www.dreamlinux.com.br/downloads/basicmainmods) (the new and recommended ones).

B - New Distro, Remastering an existing mainmod:
this menu option will guide you to build up a new Distro by means of a remastering process over an existing main module image coming from a Dreamlinux Distro, Morphix Distro, or any other Morphix derivative Distro.
C - Remastering of an existing CD or ISO image Distro: like the previous option but using a Live CD or an ISO image containing a Morphix derivative Distro, like Dreamlinux itself.
D - Remastering your HD installed Distro:
this powerful option guides you through a remastering process over your HD installed Distro. With very few small adjustments (soon to be available on the next MkDistro release) you can even remaster a Knoppix derivative and have the choice to address its final iso image as a Morphix derivative or a Knoppix one.
E -Woks on the Main Module: this menu option offers you some functionalities you use to modify whatever you want on the Main Module of your Distro and regenerate it. With it you can even build up a new Basic Main Module of your own, from the scratch.

F - Works on the Base Module: this option is generally recommend only for the expert users since it make it possible to change the Base Module, the one responsible for the Distro start up.
G - Add Files and /or Directories into your Distro: this option is one of the most expressive functionalities Morphix has introduced and that MkDistro allows you to easily use. Files and Directories can be easily added into your current Distro, resulting in a new generated image including those files and directories. This is a very fast process and a very easy way of remastering.

H - Add scripts to be executed on Booting:
like the previous option, this one allows you to include one or more scripts of your own to be executed when the system boots. Also this is a very fast process and a very easy way of remastering.
I - Add .deb packages to be installed on booting: another exceptional functionality available to the user by MkDistro, thanks to the Morphix Project. Like the two previous options, deb packages can be included into the current Distro, generating a new one that will fetch and install the deb packages you put into the /deb directory. Again this is a very fast process and a very easy way of remastering

J - Add main modules: With this option you can add as many main modules as you want to generate a Distro with two or more main modules. This is a good option if you want to have, at the same image, two or more specialized Distros, provided you have enough space left on your CD or DVD.

K - Add mini modules: This option allow you to add complete applications as mini modules, which will be loaded by the main module and will behave as being part of it. This is an area of research that's being hardly worked by the Dreamlinux developers since there's shortage of information about it on the Morphix site and wiki.

L - Build the final ISO of your new Linux Distro: after have completed all the previous steps regarding the building and customization of your Distro it's time to build the Distro's final ISO image. This option will merge the contents of the different modules (Base, Main and Mini) and the files on the /copy, /deb, and /exec directories into a single ISO file which you can burn to a CD/CDRW using the option n of the main menu or using any other burner you like. Alternatively you can test this ISO image using Qemu through the command: qemu -cdrom <isofilename>.
M - Delete the Distro working infrastructure: MkDistro build the following working infrastructure to work on the Distro you're building, on the directory you chose:
/Backup
/Base
/Iso
/Main
/Mini
/Work
/hdremaster
With this option all of this structure is deleted, if you don't need it anymore.
N - Burning a CD/CDRW:
With this option you have a simple although efficient shell script CD burner to burn your Distro on a CD or CDRW. Support for burning on a DVD media is being added in the next release of MKDistro.
O - Utilities:
This option calls a secondary menu dialog in which you find options to mount/unmount a cloop image file, a squashfs image file, an iso image file, creates any module not related to the project, like generic minimodules, creates any iso images not related to the project you're working on.
X - Exit: Leaves the script.

[bdb51]

I installed Dreamlinux works perfectly, but when I try to use synaptic to update it I get a lot of dependacy problems

[RAV TUX]

I installed Dreamlinux works perfectly, but when I try to use synaptic to update it I get a lot of dependacy problems


Which version?

[bdb51]

Dreamlinux 2.0 WORKS Edition

[rattlerviper]

I loved the little I have used DreamLinux! If I could only figure out how to get my wifi card to work! It's prettier than Ubuntu(to me), Faster than Ubuntu and that was running it from Livecd rather than harddrive like Ubuntu. It comes with all the proper codecs to play everything I threw at DVD? Not a problem! Im fact basically all thier software that it comes with covers all my needs except for Skype which is easy to add.

But I have no idea how to get the wifi working, and the vast majority of the website is in Portragese(spelling???). This is one distro that MIGHT be able to pull me away from Ubuntu, but I have no idea what their take on free software is, and they lack the forum support.

[RAV TUX]

I loved the little I have used DreamLinux! If I could only figure out how to get my wifi card to work! It's prettier than Ubuntu(to me), Faster than Ubuntu and that was running it from Livecd rather than harddrive like Ubuntu. It comes with all the proper codecs to play everything I threw at DVD? Not a problem! Im fact basically all thier software that it comes with covers all my needs except for Skype which is easy to add.

But I have no idea how to get the wifi working, and the vast majority of the website is in Portragese(spelling???). This is one distro that MIGHT be able to pull me away from Ubuntu, but I have no idea what their take on free software is, and they lack the forum support.

simply solution try an online translator:

http://www.worldlingo.com/en/products_services/worldlingo_translator.html

[rattlerviper]

Yozef, I tried BabelFish, but still have no idea how to install my wifi card. It's a desktop so most distros will work but so far only Ubuntu, Linspire, Freespire, Mepis and OpenSuse 10.1 seem to recognize it right off the bat. I can't even find where in the networking tabs I could find wifi. ](*,) I've been trying out distros for 6 years, but have only recently found any that I am comfratable with. Dream Linux would probably be the nicest if I could get it set up. Think I should try Gentoo? ;)

[Lord Illidan]

Looks good.. Haven't installed it yet, though I might.

The OSX interface looks good, but it is getting a little boring...I mean how many distros are trying to emulate OS X instead of getting their own look and feel.

This comes from someone who customised Kubuntu to look as caramellish as Ubuntu, so take it with a pinch of salt...but I prefer Ubuntu's brown to Mac OS X shiny blues.

[RAV TUX]

Yozef, I tried BabelFish, but still have no idea how to install my wifi card. It's a desktop so most distros will work but so far only Ubuntu, Linspire, Freespire, Mepis and OpenSuse 10.1 seem to recognize it right off the bat. I can't even find where in the networking tabs I could find wifi. ](*,) I've been trying out distros for 6 years, but have only recently found any that I am comfratable with. Dream Linux would probably be the nicest if I could get it set up. Think I should try Gentoo? ;)

Funny you mention Gentoo, I'm on it now.

I have been up all night trying to find the right distro to load on my computer with the Intel EM64T 64 bit dual core processor and ATI/Radeon video card.

lets see what have I gone through tonight:

sabayon RR64 3.0 RC1
dyne:bolic 2.1
dreamlinux XFCE 2.0 Works
freeBSD 6.1
Morphix Combined-Gnome 0.4.1


EDIT:
after a lot of fuss I think I like dyne:bolic best, but I am going to try GoblinX 3.1 again.

[rattlerviper]

I mention Gentoo because it sounds really nice. Basically having everything configured the way you want and need it from the get go. I went to the bookstore on sunday to look at a book on how to install gentoo, lets just say I still have the 40 bucks as it scared me off, sounds like it could take me 2 or 3 days for an install...then if I don't do something right start all over again!

[RAV TUX]

I mention Gentoo because it sounds really nice. Basically having everything configured the way you want and need it from the get go. I went to the bookstore on sunday to look at a book on how to install gentoo, lets just say I still have the 40 bucks as it scared me off, sounds like it could take me 2 or 3 days for an install...then if I don't do something right start all over again!

This is why Sabayon Linux is good.

but anyway,...I tried GoblinX again and it is the most beautiful of distros if you like fractals.

but now I am back to dyne:bolic

I think this is the best,....why?

everything works

1. load of live CD is lightening fast
2. DVD just play movies flawlessly with Xine
3. it comes with an updated Firefox
4. I really like the desktop environment(I think windowmaker?)
5. I think I will install dyne:bolic

I could give you more reasons but hey it's like 6am I've been up all night and I have to be to work soon.

I guess this is a geeks idea of a good time, up all night long trying distros out again.

[paullinux]

tried it (live-version) but it didn't detect my (ATI radeon 9200) card. Experience tells me that is not a good sign. The forums? Well I don't understand this portugese... So no go for me!

[loell]

They have an english section in their forum :)

[rattlerviper]

They have an english section in their forum :)

Indeed there is, but it is very small and without much activity.

[rekahsoft]

OK...i have recently heard of a linux distro called DreamLinux...i did some research and really liked the look of it...it also met my opensource and free standards...i was just wandering if anyone has tried it and what they think of it because i might install it on one of my desktops...currently i have ubuntu running on it but it is acting up when mounting the root filesystem...anyway i have xgl and everything running perfect on it and i am not sure if i want to switch it. Thanks for your input :)

[Paerez]

that looks really cool. I wonder what would happen if you switched its repositories to ubuntus? mmm hybrid linux!

[RAV TUX]

The following threads are merged:

http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=224844
http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=217339

[darkenedday]

Dreamlinux is a distro I have recently checked out online, It LOOKS very pollishedand well done, it has embedded codecs and an option to use either the xfce pannel or engage which is great, but I'd like to hear some reviews on how it actually performs, please avoid at all costs starting a holy war on this thread it is simply a discussion, we all love ubuntu but its not the only distro out there, might as well take a look around.

Thanks in advance.

[rattlerviper]

DreamLinux reviewed...WOW! It's great! If I wasn't using Ubuntu, I would be using DreamLinux. It is fast, pretty, and ready to go out of the box. It to is based on Debian, so most experiences you have here can be transfered over. On the other hand if you have a Atheros wifi card it won't just work. If you speak English you will find it difficult to find information on how to fix anything you need to fix. Yes they have a English section to thier forums, but it is not very active when compared to Ubuntu(or for that matter most other distros. You could alvays use a online translator to translate the forums for you, but it's not something I have tried.
In my opinion DreamLinux is absolutly nothing short of amazing. I honestly can't find another distro that looks as good to my eyes.

[TheRingmaster]

i can't seem to find the option to switch to engage instead of xfce. where is that option?

[darkenedday]

If your only running off the live CD there is no option to switch to engage, once you install to the HD it's in the menu at the top left under settings it says "Enable Dock" or something like that, if you'd like to chance to it on the live CD open a terminal and type engage, then get rid of the bottom XFCE panel that will still be on top of the engage one

[TheRingmaster]

why are all the good options only available if you install it to a hd?

[darkenedday]

I guess FOSS developers have to learn something from M$, can you think of a better way to get you to actually install it than holding back the good stuff?

[TheRingmaster]

you got a point there. :)

[RAV TUX]

I have decided to start a series of threads specifically for technical help for other Distros...the Distro is listed in the thread title. This is primarily for Ubuntu users who test or use other distros and feel most comfortable seeking help in our own community. In no way does this superceed the help you should also be getting from the perspective Distro., in fact I encourage you to be as active in their forums as you are here and post ideas, knowledge and solutions here to provide a reference point to share, reference links are encouraged.

***Dreamlinux Tech Talk***

[rattlerviper]

Yozef, wonderful idea!
Does anyone have any idea how to install a wifi card in dream linux? I've looked and looked, but I can't find anything where wifi is listed. It does not recognize my card or aything. I have a D-Link WDA-1320. Normally this gets covered by Madwifi. I have no idea where or how to install it though as every distro I really like seems to already have it. I'm really beginning to feal like an absolute idiot.

[RAV TUX]

Yozef, wonderful idea!
Does anyone have any idea how to install a wifi card in dream linux? I've looked and looked, but I can't find anything where wifi is listed. It does not recognize my card or aything. I have a D-Link WDA-1320. Normally this gets covered by Madwifi. I have no idea where or how to install it though as every distro I really like seems to already have it. I'm really beginning to feal like an absolute idiot.

I'm glad you like the idea, I hope that it makes searching for "Other" distro support easier...I know in the "Other" Distros that waiting for a response can be a while, and historically I have found I find better, friendlier, and quicker support here.

It isn't introducing anything new, just creating a formal form of organization to the "Other" Linux talk forum, hopefully it will make searching and finding answers easier.:p

I'll do some research for you on your question and get back to you,...since Dreamlinux is based on Debian & Knoppix, couldn't use a similar solution as you find in Ubuntu?

[RAV TUX]

I merged these threads:

http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=230186
http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=231242
http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=217339

[Lord Illidan]

Argh, I don't like this one.
The Mac OSX look is overdone.. And in some places it really clashes with the GTK1 software in there.

For example. You have Mplayer looking all shiny in the Mac skin. You right click on it, and you have an ugly menu.

Same for XMMS.

Also, the wallpapers are not very well done, too much artifacts.

I couldn't install nvidia drivers from the repos, too.

[darkenedday]

Indeed there is, but it is very small and without much activity.

There english forum would get much larger I'm sure if we all started posting and asking questions there, letting the size of the forums scare you away prevents it form ever growing to the size of one like this, I personally think Dreamlinux is GREAT for a just starting distro, I love the look and the ability to make my own distro through the included mkdistro. We all however should join in the community there if we'd like to see it make any progress especially in the english support department. I'm not saying don't post here, actually with the volume of linux users here I wouldn't be suprised that if some day this forum becomes a center for support on ALL linux distros, after I think it's between Ubuntu and Dreamlinux to be the next generation of Linux

[darkenedday]

I have two printers that don't seem to have the drivers on dreamlinux, I was wondering if anyone knows where I can get one for each

HP PSC 1200
Canon i250

[darkenedday]

Anyone know where I could get a pressed CD?

[rattlerviper]

Anyone know where I could get a pressed CD?
It doesn't appear to be in any of the normal channels for cheap cds does it? Are you unable to download it, or do you just want the set like they show on the DreamLinux website?

[RAV TUX]

It doesn't appear to be in any of the normal channels for cheap cds does it? Are you unable to download it, or do you just want the set like they show on the DreamLinux website?

I searched also and couldn't find anything....you can download their artwork also....

[rattlerviper]

Just a thought, most of the places that sell the cds of all the distros allow you to request your favorite distro. Personally I can't recomend any because I haven't used them since I got high speed internet.

[darkenedday]

I searched also and couldn't find anything....you can download their artwork also....

I just liek the set, pressed cd's are nice to have around rather than my regular blank cd's labeled with a sharpy

[RAV TUX]

I just liek the set, pressed cd's are nice to have around rather than my regular blank cd's labeled with a sharpy

Ok I found a place for you:

http://free.thelinuxstore.ca/request_disk.php

click the "other" option and request Dreamlinux, free CD's

(I haven't tried it yet, but it was posted here in the community market:
http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=216528 )

[DirtDawg]

I'm downloading this too to try live. My Linux Harddrive on this computer is only 4 gigs(!) and "hella" slow.
Thanks for the tip.

[RAV TUX]

I'm downloading this too to try live. My Linux Harddrive on this computer is only 4 gigs(!) and "hella" slow.
Thanks for the tip.

Dreamlinux should run like a dream on your system;)

[DirtDawg]

Dreamlinux should run like a dream on your system;)

Yes I've been test driving the live disk now for several hours. It's really a great distro. Runs very quickly, even off CD, and has all the plugins and apps I need preinstalled.

This is really great. I hate to say it, but on this tiny 4Gig drive, I may replace Ubuntu with Dream. Of course I'm assuming this can be done without totally wreaking havoc on the main Harddrive (if the Windows drive gets screwed, or even slightly altered in any way, my girlfriend will tear my throat out).

Could I easily overwrite Ubuntu without screwing up Grub?

[RAV TUX]

Yes I've been test driving the live disk now for several hours. It's really a great distro. Runs very quickly, even off CD, and has all the plugins and apps I need preinstalled.

This is really great. I hate to say it, but on this tiny 4Gig drive, I may replace Ubuntu with Dream. Of course I'm assuming this can be done without totally wreaking havoc on the main Harddrive (if the Windows drive gets screwed, or even slightly altered in any way, my girlfriend will tear my throat out).

Could I easily overwrite Ubuntu without screwing up Grub?

It honestly shouldn't be a problem....

[darkenedday]

I was wondering if it would be possible to add the ubuntu repositories to dreamlinux without causing any harm?

[RAV TUX]

I was wondering if it would be possible to add the ubuntu repositories to dreamlinux without causing any harm?

dreamlinux is debian/knoppix/morphix based so it should not be a problem, in theory.

[darkenedday]

so could i see a copy of some1's preffered sources list? i can't exactly remember mine by heart

[DirtDawg]

Okay I installed Dreamlinux last night after some difficulty (see: ignoramus (http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=234850)). What a great distro! There are a few minor problems, the clock is not correct etc, but otherwise everything is installed and ready to go!

For example, when Ubuntu was installed, I never managed to get videos to play right in Firefox. Some worked, some didn't. Some threw up Totem warnings despite my best efforts. But DreamLinux has them all installed and ready to go. It's great! XMMS too. Wonderful.

To me, Ubuntu seems a little more mature and for my PPC there's no other way to go, but for my li'l 4gigger, Dreamlinux rawx! Thanks again Yozef for bringing this fantastic distro to my attention.

The funniest part is I have only 635 Megs of space left on my harddrive. Not much apt-get wiggle room there. A consequence of 700+ RAM and a 4Gig drive. :mrgreen:

[RAV TUX]

Okay I installed Dreamlinux last night after some difficulty (see: ignoramus (http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=234850)). What a great distro! There are a few minor problems, the clock is not correct etc, but otherwise everything is installed and ready to go!

For example, when Ubuntu was installed, I never managed to get videos to play right in Firefox. Some worked, some didn't. Some threw up Totem warnings despite my best efforts. But DreamLinux has them all installed and ready to go. It's great! XMMS too. Wonderful.

To me, Ubuntu seems a little more mature and for my PPC there's no other way to go, but for my li'l 4gigger, Dreamlinux rawx! Thanks again Yozef for bringing this fantastic distro to my attention.

The funniest part is I have only 635 Megs of space left on my harddrive. Not much apt-get wiggle room there. A consequence of 700+ RAM and a 4Gig drive. :mrgreen:

Good Welcome....Dreamlinux is a great new Distro....which is already making waves...there are quite a few cool distros coming out of Brazil.:p

[randell6564]

Hi all! Can I get this distro using bittorrent?

I tryed the download link provided in this thread and left my box for the night. Came back in the morning and it had still not finished. It actually showed that it was still downloading, but nothing was happening. It had stopped counting down, so I aborted thinking that I could restart it, picking up where I left off, but it started downloading a fresh copy.

[slimdog360]

Is the XGL distro a live cd? Im downloading it now in the hope that it is. If it is a live cd how does it run? Ive got 1GB RAM on my computer and an Athlon XP2800 @~2.1GHz, the graphics card might let me down though, its an Nvidia 5200fx.

edit: hmm I just installed dream linux, though the install was less than a dream. But eventually I got it to install however it doesnt show up in the grub. How can I make it boot?

[rekahsoft]

Edit /boot/grub/menu.lst and add Dreamlinux to the menu...it is pretty easy to do and in /boot/grub/menu.lst it gives examples of how to add entries...make a backup just in case you mess something up...then you can just boot into a live cd and retore your old menu.

[slimdog360]

I had already tried that, but it didnt recognise it. hmm, maybe the install went bad. I'll have to try it again.

[rekahsoft]

did you mount the partition or did you edit the live cd /boot/grub/menu.lst...i did that once and that confused me...edit your fstab and mount the ubuntu partition...then edit /boot/grub/menu.lst

[darkenedday]

I now have dreamlinux running on two PC's with great success one is an AMD duron 700mhz with 768mb of PC133 RAM and a 200gb hdd (this is my "screw-around-with-distros-box") and the other is an eMachine *wince* with a 2.6ghz intel celeron processor 256mb DDR RAM and 128 mb of shared video memory (real i notice a very slight speed difference between the two suprisingly) but anyway, it runs great with the nvidia geforce2 mx/mx 32mb video card it came pre-loaded with java and flash and audio/video codecs i have since installed karamba and kicker (kicker is for the more mac os-x style panel) and they run flawlessly even though the DE is xfce, I have even managed to get the ubuntu repos working on it (don't ask how i'm not even sure, getting the keys took some digging) and now the ammount of packages i have to choose from is INSANE, I recomend this to ANYONE who runs linux this distro is one of the most polished and well done I have ever seen!

[hizaguchi]

I thought it was a pretty ugly distro from the screenshots, but I finally gave it a try and it turned out to be much prettier than I thought. Well, at least the boot screen is nice looking. This is the first distro I've tried that won't get past the first stages of booting... not even far enough to install it! I was disappointed.

[darkenedday]

I've never had any problems with it booting, is you CD damaged? Try the CD testing option at startup if your live CD will get that far, but I've never heard of aproblem like that, are oyu getting any error messages? Once installed though it is a very pretty, and pretty fast distro, great polish iwth built in audio and video codecs as well as flash and java.

[hizaguchi]

I don't get any error messages while booting. It just stops before starting whatever happens after the acpi stuff loads. I know that's it because if I enable acpi it stops after those messages and if I disable it it stops right where they should have been. No errors though. It just sits there for as long as you'll leave it (I tried an hour). It probably is a problem with the disc.

I tried the test media boot option, and it scanned the files and then spit out some weird message about comparing them to something (I don't know if it said md5sums or what, don't remember). But it never said if the disc was damaged. It said there was an error checking it. I think I might re-download and re-burn today.

[hizaguchi]

OK, I can boot in "failsafe" mode. But when I tried to install, it sat and wrote to the disk for over an hour before I realized that the screen was completely frozen and the computer wasn't responding to any inputs. That kinda freaked me out because I wasn't sure what it was up to, so I cringed and hit the power button. Maybe Dreamlinux isn't for my machine.

[K.Mandla]

Holy cow! Dreamlinux ROCKS! This is a sweet little distro if you're an XFCE fan and have an Nvidia card. Sheesh!

If I can get my wireless working, this is DEFINITELY a keeper. Hot damn! :mrgreen:

[darkenedday]

Definately agree with you, the forums just need a little more participation, so definately post there for answers, i'll look into it for you too, I've heard a few people have trouble with that same thing, idk if you can run ndiswrapper or not. . .

[K.Mandla]

Actually I'm one of the lucky ones. I have an ancient WPC11 with a Prism chipset, so starting the wireless was just a little script. If you're wondering ...


#!/bin/sh
sudo ifconfig eth1 down
sudo iwconfig eth1 essid XXXXXX key XXXXXXXXXX
sudo ifconfig eth1 up
sudo dhclient eth1

I put that on the desktop and double-click it when I start up. I'll get into the nitty gritty later and do it properly, but that works for me for now.

I'm also going to mention this stuff in the English forums over there. It's minor, but forum participation makes the community, and the community makes the distro. Cheers!

[K.Mandla]

I have even managed to get the ubuntu repos working on it (don't ask how i'm not even sure, getting the keys took some digging) and now the ammount of packages i have to choose from is INSANE ...
Could you give us some hints? I'd love to add the Ubuntu repositories.

[darkenedday]

Could you give us some hints? I'd love to add the Ubuntu repositories.

you'll have to disable some of your debian repos to make sure you don't get as many errors, but simply add the repos from you ubuntu sources to dreamlinux's and there is wget code in the ubuntu wiki somewhere, after that it should all work :-)

[K.Mandla]

Cool, thanks. I'm going to give it a try. I tried updating with the sources they give by default, but I get a lot of errors and my X is killed on reboot. I think it's because my video card needs the legacy drivers, not the straight nvidia-glx package. I know if I use the wrong drivers in Xubuntu, I get the same nonstarting-X errors.

I also need to track down the Compiz configuration options. I'm all about the wobbly windows. :)

[darkenedday]

Cool, thanks. I'm going to give it a try. I tried updating with the sources they give by default, but I get a lot of errors and my X is killed on reboot. I think it's because my video card needs the legacy drivers, not the straight nvidia-glx package. I know if I use the wrong drivers in Xubuntu, I get the same nonstarting-X errors.

I also need to track down the Compiz configuration options. I'm all about the wobbly windows. :)

You're running the XGL edition? let me know how that goes I've been meaning to try it but my Nvidia card is in a PC that they say is too slow I may try it anyway this 700mhz sometimes seems to outdo my 2.6ghz celeron) anyway when I installed Dreamlinux 2.0 WORKS it gave me the option to use the legacy driveres or the newer ones, it asked which was mroe compatible with my card right when I booted the live CD

[K.Mandla]

You're running the XGL edition? let me know how that goes I've been meaning to try it but my Nvidia card is in a PC that they say is too slow I may try it anyway this 700mhz sometimes seems to outdo my 2.6ghz celeron) anyway when I installed Dreamlinux 2.0 WORKS it gave me the option to use the legacy driveres or the newer ones, it asked which was mroe compatible with my card right when I booted the live CD
I'm using the XGL version with a 1Ghz/512Mb and a 64Mb GeForce4 Go 440 (it's the one in my signature). I haven't had any video problems at all, and that's at 1600x1200. I can even run Edgy XGL, with all the decorations turned on. Granted, it's not as spunky as most, but it's not laggy either.

I have noticed that Ubuntu's XGL seems a little more lively. I don't know what to credit that to, except perhaps my previously mentioned video driver issues. And of course, I'm just getting started with Dreamlinux, so it's possible I haven't gotten everything tweaked as well as I can in Ubuntu.

[K.Mandla]

Okay, I think I got it. I had to hunt down gpg keys and import them. I used the source-o-matic page at ubuntulinux.nl (http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic) and the key number was 437D05B5. So adding the key was


gpg --keyserver subkeys.pgp.net --recv 437d05b5
followed by


gpg --export --armor 437d05b5 | sudo apt-key add -
That stops the update from giving errors, and should let me install Ubuntu packages. We'll see. That wasn't an easy one to hunt down. :)

[darkenedday]

Okay, I think I got it. I had to hunt down gpg keys and import them. I used the source-o-matic page at ubuntulinux.nl (http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic) and the key number was 437D05B5. So adding the key was


gpg --keyserver subkeys.pgp.net --recv 437d05b5
followed by


gpg --export --armor 437d05b5 | sudo apt-key add -
That stops the update from giving errors, and should let me install Ubuntu packages. We'll see. That wasn't an easy one to hunt down. :)


i just searched for repositories in the WIKI and it gave me those toward the end :-) anyway I just installed the XGL edition and I was wondering if there is anyway to change the window decorations in compiz this dreary grey is kind've buging me, and what are some of the cooler effects? other than the cube desktop thing. Other than that XGL/Compiz is great! even on an older AMD duron 700mhz 768mb RAM pc and a Nvidia Geforce MX 2 32mb vid card (only nvidia card I own :-()

[darkenedday]

Dreamlinux is a new distro that I'm sure many of you who are like me and try a new distro every week, have already heard of I was wondering how osme of you think it competes with Ubuntu, being I consider them the two best Distro's out there.

[majesticturkey]

They don't compete. There's a "right distro" for everyone. If it's not Dreamlinux for you, then it might be Ubuntu. It might not be, it might be SUSE or Slackware or Gentoo. For me, it's Ubuntu.

[darkenedday]

They don't compete. There's a "right distro" for everyone. If it's not Dreamlinux for you, then it might be Ubuntu. It might not be, it might be SUSE or Slackware or Gentoo. For me, it's Ubuntu.

why oh why do people always have to do this, listen, i was looking at it form a more technical aspect, such as which seems faster, etc. etc. and wanted to know some people's oppinions if you don't agree with the thread DON'T reply it's that simple, no need to try and sound like an insuffereable no it all, when we all know quite well that there is a distro for everyone and this is why it's so great to have so many, so thankyou for being the 1000th person to point what is already quite apparent

many thanks to mr insufferable know it all :-)

[rattlerviper]

DreamLinux is much faster, DreamLinux comes with all the codecs you could need to play mp3s and dvd's has flash and java preinstalled, DreamLinux is XFCE based as to Ubuntu which is Gnome based. Ubuntu has Wifi support out of the box for me while DreamLinux does not have support for the Atheros chipset out of the box...What do you want to know about DreamLinux? It's awsome and well worth the download and cd-r.

[majesticturkey]

DreamLinux runs XFCE, and Ubuntu runs GNOME or KDE far more often than XFCE. DreamLinux runs a lot more out of the box, but that's because Ubuntu does not do nonfree software. It's more than just technical stuff, there's an ideology behind every distro, that they shoot for.

If you want to talk about speed and all that stuff, then Syllable's the best OS out there.

Don't patronize me, because when you hear a question phrased the way you asked it, then the general idea would be to inform someone that in the world of Linux, it's not a "we're better" world, it's a "if you prefer them, go over there" world. Speaking of which, I'm going over here now, because bellicose OPs are against my philosophy.

But yes, DreamLinux is much faster.

[K.Mandla]

I know, it's tacky to hack away at someone else's wallpaper, but I loved the pseudo-default blue swirl Dreamlinux uses in its XGL version. I made this off the svg so I could use it on my Xubuntu machines. ... Cheers.

[K.Mandla]

I was wondering if there is anyway to change the window decorations in compiz this dreary grey is kind've buging me, and what are some of the cooler effects? other than the cube desktop thing.
I'm not sure. I remember poking around in .config and .gconf and seeing some compiz XML files, but I didn't see an interface for them, and I didn't want to edit them directly for fear of ruining my installation.

Which happened anyway, when I tried to run an update. I still haven't been able to update the XGL or WORKS editions without destroying the system. No matter. It's a work in progress. :mrgreen:

P.S.: Does your CapsLock key work? Mine doesn't. I wouldn't even know where to begin to fix that.

[K.Mandla]

Boy, swapping out for the Ubuntu repositories sure does make a wacky system. I managed to update without killing it, though. Took a couple of tries, but I got some fresher packages in there, and just for kicks I'm bumping up to Edgy. Now THAT has to kill it.

By the way, that engage bar is pretty slick.

[darkenedday]

I didn't know you could get engage on the XGL edition, you have to tell me how you did it, and I know what you mean about the ubuntu repos, but the ammoutn of packages to choose from is worth it, and eventually the bugs will begin to drop off I'm sure, I saw a demo online of XGL on Dapper and someone had set a DVD movie as there desktop it was crazy, it's currently what I'm trying to figure out how to do, i particularly liked what the guy did with the matrix falling symbols thing (may outdo my CPU but oh well this is my experiment box) anyway this is definately alot of fun to play with even if I do creash the system a few hundred times, let me know if you find out how to enable any of compis/xgl's kewler effects

[darkenedday]

My caps lock key doesn't work, that is odd, I'll try to lookinto it (where to begin?!) keyboard shortcuts maybe

[K.Mandla]

I didn't know you could get engage on the XGL edition, you have to tell me how you did it. ... let me know if you find out how to enable any of compis/xgl's kewler effects
Actually, I only got the engage bar on the WORKS Edition, not the XGL. I don't think it's available in XGL, although if you have the Ubuntu repositories enabled, you might be able to get it running that way. There's a post about it here (http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=146173); as I understand it you can do the same thing with gdesklets and it might be easier to put together.

I never did find any compiz settings for the XGL Edition. If I get it going on my other computer, I'll look a little harder. (I had to go back to Dapper after the weekend ended; I have to have a stable machine for the week, and my cross-distro Dreamlinux-Edgy machine was anything but. :mrgreen: )

[spudw]

i have installed dreamlinux xgl to my hd and i like it.:-D its quick as xubuntu, which was my previous distro. could use a full english forum though. also, i have a problem running amarok. im running version 1.4.3 and it crashes 2 seconds after it starts. i have to give it the kill signal! any ideas?

[RAV TUX]

used The XGL version for about 2 to 3 weeks....it broke.

I am now using Sabayon as my primary OS.

[greggh]

I'm typing this from the Dream Linux Live CD. It's by far the nicest live CD I've seen. Everything works right off the bat... Java, Flash, MP3's all the video codecs with mPlayer... very impressed. I may have to install this.

[K.Mandla]

If you get your caps lock key to work, tell me how you did it. :mrgreen:

I think I saw that there's going to be a 2.1 version, and I hope that makes some minor improvements to the XGL version too. XGL in Ubuntu is easy to set up now, but having it default on the install is dreamy.

[saracen]

This distro is excellent! The 2.1 version will also have out of the box ntfs-3g support so u can read/write to those ntfs partitions. It pretty much seems like Ubuntu after I've done all the customizations I want to it... and I do make a LOT of customizations after the install.

[drewb0y]

I am using the new 2.1 release on my aging thinkpad laptop now. Installed great and wifi worked off the bat. Couple of questions though:

1) what happened to the website? for some reason I can not reach dreamlinux.com.br at all from Dallas on an SBC DSL account.
2) what repositories should I add for more updates in apt-get, like updated Firefox, for example. (installs with 1.5.0.1 and check for updates is disabled)

And yes NTFS access works as I am on a dualboot XP/nix system and it is so easy to mount. I just clicked on my home icon on the desktop, then utilities, then disks, looked at the drive properties and partitions, selected ntfs and enabled. Voila.

[blackbeard]

i am a fairly experienced ubuntu user, but i am having problems with my internet connection connecting to gaim, thunderbird, or my repositories. i have tried editing to the .conf file or whatever, but i get a message about not having permission.

anyway, i was wondering if anyone could help me configure my DSL modem in dreamlinux because i really like it, but cannot actually use anything but the livecd because i cannot figure out how to configure the internet access. i tried auto-detecting the dchp settings and applying it. i could ping websites through terminal, but could not connect through firefox or anything else. i am sure it is something ridiculously simple that i am overlooking, but it would be really nice if someone could help me out.

[K.Mandla]

What repositories should I add for more updates in apt-get, like updated Firefox, for example. (installs with 1.5.0.1 and check for updates is disabled)
Just drop the Ubuntu repositories in there (http://www.epron.com.br/dreamlinux/viewtopic.php?t=458). :D

[slimdog360]

I just downloaded dream linux multimedia 2.2 RC1. I havent installed it yet but Im going to tomorrow morning, I cant wait to try out all the cool features. I love the look of it, even though its pretty much a Mac clone I still love it. Ive been using a few Macs of late and though I like the look I didnt get the feeling I got from dream linux.

the screenshot page
http://www.dreamlinux.com.br/english/saiba-screen.html

Anyone else like it?

[beefcurry]

Seems nicely made from the screen shots, too much like a mac clone for my tastes. I might try it someday in vmware. From what i heard its quite lacking in drivers.

[Fatec]

Waaaaay to much eyecandy for my liking...and i hate the look of macs, makes me wanna puke.

The os itself is pretty stable though...

[steven8]

I'm downloading the works edition right now. I'll post my thoughts later. . .

[steven8]

Well, I'm writing this from the DreamLinux liveCD. It wouldn't work for me using the proprietary Nvidia driver on start-up, it forced a reboot. I used the NV driver next. It looks okay, and I am happy that my modem works out of the box. This makes 4 distros which my modem works right off. I'll poke around some more and then post some more thoughts.

[steven8]

I installed it, and now the modem doesn't work. Well, it does, and it doesn't. When the OS is loading, the modem shows activity right as the progress bar begins, then stops it's activity right before the progress bar ends.

I am trying to sign up for the forum right now to ask for help.

[slimdog360]

I may have to do the same as I cant install it for some reason. Three times Ive tried and it keeps giving me some crappy error. I think it may be time to try again.

[steven8]

It took me two tries. I read a bit about how it's wise to use the commandline to partition, then shutdown and use the graphical tools to install. I used the graphical interface to partition, then the install froze at 50%. I had to press reset, and the next time it worked okay.

They have an English speaking forum, but the registration is in Portuguese. Thank God for Google Language tools. :-)

[slimdog360]

Yeah I had to use the commandline partitioner also, the graphical one sucks. Anyway I managed to get it installed then was horrified at what it looked like. What happened to the fancy pants look of the live cd?????? I could bare that but I had to configure my own adsl connection, but even then it was really really slow.

I think Im going to have to get rid of it. If the internet was fine and it looked like they make it out to look in the screen shots and live cd then Id still use it. I think I might try Arch linux.

[steven8]

I found a list of graphics cards they support ootb, and my card is on there. I wonder why it crashed when I tried to boot using the proprietary driver. Hmm.

I've seen arch linux mentioned, but I haven't tried it yet. Maybe I'll take a look as well.

Do you have any idea why an OS would pick up a modem at the beginning of loading, then drop it at the end? I ran lsusb, and it is there.

[slimdog360]

I have no idea why? But after I configured my modem I rebooted the ocmputer. The internet was not up after the reboot. I figured that it must have gone back to the original non useable configuration but it turns out that it had kept my settings but just didnt want to work. I had to reset the connection again before it worked. Though it was still slow.

So maybe its just the distrobution? I was really hyped up about this distro but its let me down.

[steven8]

I am disappointed in it somewhat, but I am excited enough to see if I can make it work. It looks as though almost no one responds to the English language forum, so I used the Google Language conversion to change my question into Portuguese and posted in the other forum. We'll see how it goes.

[slimdog360]

there is a trick for disabling IPV6 to make the internet faster if you have also been experiencing this. http://www.mepis.org/node/7416 Give it a try to see if your internet goes faster.

[rlozano]

i cant seem to convince myself that this dream linux have a very good and stable repo, which is a must for every linux distro. i've seen alot of linux ditro and this seems to be real deal (aside ofcourse from a very active community support), why after a while they are gone or either no more development is happening.

[rlozano]

i also believe as i experienced in fedora (and as most users of fedora would complain), that repo is also not that good, as it is very slow.

btw, i have no intentions to flame the discussion. :-)

it's just what i thought and experienced.

[trailboss]

Hi all,
I noticed alot are having problems with their OS and alot are wanting to try something different. Well Dreamlinux is what I suggest. I am a new linux user this year and I have tried over 40 different versions. My favorite was Mepis lite until I found Dream linux. It is fast and I love the look and feel. It's a very new Distro, but they are getting it right,,,,,, and I mean right now. Everything works for me and even dialup internet, which most linux distro's fail to offer. I'm using the 2.2 version and I can't tell you how the works version is. I just thought I'd share my findings to most in here looking to test something different, it uses XFCE and Enlightenment. Yea boy,,,, it's great. I noticed it's already ranked 31 on distrowatch website. Try it out and you'll be glad you did.
thanks for reading
Trailboss

[steven8]

It is a beautiful distro, but. . .

The works version worked with my usb modem at first, so I installed it, as I really loved it. Then, after install, it quit working with my modem. The modem showed activity when the os first started loading, then dropped out just as the os finished booting. No one has been able to help me out on the forum over there. There is not much activity on their forum yet.

I tried the 2.2 version, but it doesn't see my modem at all. Now, the liveCD of 2.1 sees my modem, and has data activity, but won't let me surf, as though it doesn't see the modem.

I took it off my HDD.

[trailboss]

Hi,
Glad you tried Dreamlinux. I'm on Dreamlinux right now, and never had a modem problem. I use a external older modem (zoom) and I never tried my older us robotics external modem, come to thik of it I have not tried or checked to see if my internet would work. Yes your right, theres not much in the forums as they have a english forum but it gets little posts, but I never needed to post for help, it's all good with me. I did try their first version and it had a loading problem, but the 2.2 has worked flawless.(for me) I am gonna install it on my cousin's computer in a day or 2 as he's ready to try linux, and his computer is older than mine a 700p with 128 ram, i don't think he will have any problems. I know if you get a externel modem it will work, and I got mine from a garage sale 5 bucks each. They are everywhere. hope this helps.
thanks for the reply
Trailboss

[slimdog360]

Ive given dreamlinux another go just now on my laptop. It seems to be working heaps better then what it was on my desktop computer, except for a few partitioning problems. I think the devs should really fix this issue.

[xabbott]

King of Debian base

Huh?

[maxamillion]

xabbot: I assume the original poster is suggesting that DreamLinux is the "king" of the debian based distributions of linux.

DreamLinux is nice, I don't have any qualms with it but I am a debian user through and through and ubuntu is the closest debian derivative to debian I have found with keeping user friendliness for the desktop priority.

[RAV TUX]

moving to Debian (and derivatives) Forum

[Rodneyck]

I really like Dreamlinux. I used the 2.2 beta/multimedia version, not the work version and it went well. I have it installed on a small hard drive for testing.

Initial responses:
Beautiful OS and theme package, probably the prettiest OS I have seen.
Very reminiscent of OSX, so a great transition for people switching from Apple.
Love the dock - again, very OSX-like.
Fast and not a lot of bloat as far as programs. I am tired of distros loading up everything with a DVD. Let me download what I want!
Great setup applications for networking, wireless, etc.

Initial negatives:
The main one was using Synaptic. Updating was easy, but if you want to add the additional unchecked repositories, many of them give you errors. Confusing as to which ones to use, no documentation that I could find.
Support as in wiki and forums is minimal.
Currently no beryl or compiz. There was an XGL version, but I think that has been pulled and they are working on a new one. There is a 3D desktop you can activate that flips between 4 desktops in 3D, but that was about it.

Great potential and I will continue to kick it around some more.

[Rodneyck]

Dreamlinux 2.2 (Final) MULTIMEDIA EDITION has been released, running on Kernel 2.6.18 .

Slick!

"The final version of Dreamlinux 2.2 Multimedia Edition has been released. Having many improvements compared with the previous version, Dreamlinux 2.2 Multimedia Edition brings countless new features. The kernel is 2.6.18, and the distro uses Debian 'testing' repositories. A greater number of applications for multimedia have been added, allowing to open and manipulate many different types of audio and video files. Beyond the many updates, other refinements have also been incorporated: upgrade assistant, new control panel, and the 'Easy-Install' application that allows the user to install non-Debian programs like Google Earth, Picasa, Opera, etc."

http://www.dreamlinux.com.br/

[Rodneyck]

Follow up...

Just wanted to say that I am really loving the Dreamlinux 2.2 Final. They have really cleaned up the bugs and tidied up the functions in one neatly organized control Panel. There are lots of what they call, "Easy Install", apps which are basically installers for different features and proprietary applications. It makes initial setup a snap.

The system is fast, very fast, but so is expected of XFCE. The OSX-like dock now comes fully operational, no need to activate. This is definitely the best Xfce distribution out there IMO. I will be placing it on my older computer.

I would consider using it as my main OS/distribution if I could install Compiz or Beryl on it, but still no such luck. Lets hope it is included in the next release as 3D desktops seem to be the way of the future. I needs some of that 3D. :-D

[fedleo]

I would consider using it as my main OS/distribution if I could install Compiz or Beryl on it, but still no such luck. Lets hope it is included in the next release as 3D desktops seem to be the way of the future. I needs some of that 3D. :-D

Indeed. Anyway since Dreamlinux is a Debian based distro with a full implemented Xorg on it did you ever try with compiz using aiglx? Should be an interesting test to do...

[Rodneyck]

No, come to think of it. I did try it with Compiz and XGL. It actually installed compiz through synaptic (would not do this with Beryl, although it did show up after adding the repo) but I kept getting errors relating to a missing theme in metacity and a few other metacity related requests. I gave up.

I will try it later and see if Aiglx works.

[justin whitaker]

I agree with the assessment that the Dream Linux team really has it down. It's absolutely beautiful, has a nice selection of applications, and runs quite well. The hardware install failed to load a bootloader in the beta...hopefully it is fixed now. I did notice that documentation was a little sparse....one real nice feature is the ability to make your own CD...wish Ubuntu had that by default.

[fedleo]

Installed it on a spare machine today. Came back to ubuntu IMMEDIATELY.
Great "eye candy distro" and perfect on liveCD, absolutely not stable (for me) when I installed it on HDD. Many problems with language packs, Firefox 2 and missing repos... System hangs... :-k
But It's true when people says dreamlinux is really fast, more and more than Ubuntu with gnome (XFCE did make a good job).

[Rodneyck]

Installed it on a spare machine today. Came back to ubuntu IMMEDIATELY.
Great "eye candy distro" and perfect on liveCD, absolutely not stable (for me) when I installed it on HDD. Many problems with language packs, Firefox 2 and missing repos... System hangs... :-k
But It's true when people says dreamlinux is really fast, more and more than Ubuntu with gnome (XFCE did make a good job).

So sorry it did not work out for you. Worked perfectly on my system. If you want Firefox 2+, you have to upgrade the "install app" installers found on their website under tutorials. I think you have to upgrade the installers by downloading a .deb and running it, then you will get a Firefox "install app" in the Control Panel to upgrade.

I made a blunder and uninstalled, then reinstalled Icedove (Thunderbird) and messed up the Control Panel, as in it would no longer appear. This is where the support comes in and is lacking on their website, although the admins do seem to respond to most post. This is a test system for me, so I did not post as I will be deleting it soon to try/test Arch.

I only wish Ubuntu was as fast as that system. I just clicked on the Ubuntu Menu button and it took a couple of seconds to open and I have a medium to high end system. They fly on Dreamlinux. :???:

[K.Mandla]

I just clicked on the Ubuntu Menu button and it took a couple of seconds to open and I have a medium to high end system. They fly on Dreamlinux. :???:
Not to deviate from the OP, but really? Seconds to open? That doesn't sound quite right. What kind of machine is it?

[Rodneyck]

Not to deviate from the OP, but really? Seconds to open? That doesn't sound quite right. What kind of machine is it?

The 2 second thing is usually the first time I use the menu system. It does speed up a bit after that, so I am assuming there is some sort of cache thing going on with the first use.

I have an AMD 3800+ AM2, ECS NFORCE4M-A (V3.0) Socket AM2 NVIDIA nForce4 4X ATX AMD Motherboard, eVGA 256-P2-N612-TX GeForce 7600 GTS (really a GT) 256MB 128-bit GDDR3 PCI Express,1GB 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 667, 120 gig HD and a 20 gig.

My system is very fast and I test distros all the time. I have to say Gnome, even though I love her, is usually slower than most frontends. I do have to say I am running Beryl and that does slow down any menu, a little. Still, when compared to Xcfe, there is a major difference. Test it for yourself.

Another thing that seems slower compared to other OS's under Gnome is Nautilus. There is a whole thread on the subject in this forum. Thunar has nautilus beat hands down. If you don't believe, just try opening a folder full of pictures. It takes nautilus a few, several, seconds to fully register the pics/thumbnails, not so under KDE's system or Thunar. BTW, you can uninstall nautilus and install Thunar under Ubuntu.

[Lucho]

I installed Dreamlinux on a spare partition last night. After messing around
a bit, I'll give it a conditional thumbs up \\:D/
Why conditional, you ask? Well, the distro ran so very sweetly as a live cd,
and installed by the book. Not one problem. However, while this is a superb
distro for newbies and people who can't be bothered to install a full Debian
or Slackware, not all is a bed of roses.
1) Just try to mess with the system. I'm an incorrigable shadetree mechanic,
and I take the same attitude with my OS. Dreamlinux doesn't lend itself very
well to tinkering; I'm still trying to get AiGLX+compiz running to no avail. And it
was near automagical in Etch...
2) Not much choice of file systems for installation. I happen to like the quiet
efficiency and reliability of JFS, but it's conspicuous by its absence on Dreamlinux.
3) The liveCD is a bit stubborn. It doesn't matter what boot options you select,
because it always boots with its own options. I have a 19" LCD, but the distro
always boots to the same resolution- no matter which one you select- and it's
the wrong resolution. I have 1GB of RAM, so I take advantage of the toram
cheatcode. Not in Dreamlinux, no sir [-( That's a quick path to a kernel panic.
Overall, there are more pros than cons. good job 8)

[fedleo]

So sorry it did not work out for you. Worked perfectly on my system. If you want Firefox 2+, you have to upgrade the "install app" installers found on their website under tutorials. I think you have to upgrade the installers by downloading a .deb and running it, then you will get a Firefox "install app" in the Control Panel to upgrade. Is what I did. After the upgrade firefox stops to work.
I only wish Ubuntu was as fast as that system. I just clicked on the Ubuntu Menu button and it took a couple of seconds to open and I have a medium to high end system. They fly on Dreamlinux. :???: The same here.
Will try it again this distro, but not now. ;)

[Lucho]

Here's an update
I finally managed to get AIGLX and Compiz running on DreamLinux 2.2.
Now we're cooking with gas! \\:D/ \\:D/
Check it out here:
http://ubuntuforums.org/gallery/showphoto.php/photo/4602/limit/recent

[Rodneyck]

Here's an update
I finally managed to get AIGLX and Compiz running on DreamLinux 2.2.
Now we're cooking with gas! \\:D/ \\:D/
Check it out here:
http://ubuntuforums.org/gallery/showphoto.php/photo/4602/limit/recent

Congrats!!!

Which guide did you follow? Any help would be appreciated.

[Lucho]

I was probably just lucky, but I used this one:
http://wizah.blogspot.com/2006/10/debian-how-to-aiglx-compiz.html
Nothing seemed to change until I used the following:

rm -r ~/.gconf/apps/compiz/

and then

killall xfwm4 && compiz &
At least, this is what worked for me.
Let me know if it works for you.
PAZ

[Rodneyck]

Thanks so much, this is very exciting. I really like this distro for some reason and if I can get compiz working, I might just replace it with my main distro (ubuntu) for a few months and see how it goes.

Another possibility that might allow beryl to work is installing the gnome desktop, something I forgot to try previously.


sudo apt-get install gnome-desktop

This distro, as you mentioned, is based on debian so technically it should satisfy all the missing dependency errors once gnome is there.

Yes, I love the fact it is debian under the hood, as many of the ubuntu forum tweaks and repos work with Dreamlinux.

[Rodneyck]

Well, all my efforts to get both Compiz and Beryl going under Dreamlinux failed. I have no idea how you did it, but nothing worked for me. Beryl is blocked completely (re both apt-get and synaptic.) I have no idea if Compiz is actually there (synaptic says it is installed and apt-get works.) The only thing that changes when I activate it (run the script) is the sound of my video card fan kicks in, but I have none of the Compiz actions (like the cube, shadows, etc.) I did get some errors about missing metacity clear(something)-theme not installed. I have no idea what it wants.

You should post a guide on here or on the Dreamlinux forum with exact steps on how you did it. Do you have an ATI card or Nvidia? I know there are posts asking if it is possible over there (dreamlinux land.) To bad, I really wanted this as my main distro. ](*,)

[Lucho]

Sorry for the delay in replying; my internet connection crashed.

get and synaptic.) I have no idea if Compiz is actually there (synaptic says it is installed and apt-get works.) The only thing that changes when I activate it (run the script) is the sound of my video card fan kicks in, but I have none of the Compiz actions (like the cube, shadows, etc.) I did get some errors about missing metacity clear(something)-theme not installed. I have no idea what it wants.

You should post a guide on here or on the Dreamlinux forum with exact steps on how you did it. Do you have an ATI card or Nvidia? I know there are posts asking if it is possible over there (dreamlinux land.) To bad, I really wanted this as my main distro.
I just used that guide that I linked (the techno Wizah one). One thing that DOES seem
to make a difference is that I had updated my Dreamlinux, with the Debian Testing repos
(they're already listed, just uncomment as necessary). Do you know about the APT::Force-LoopBreak option? You'll need to activate it in synaptic; after let it update everything, which
seems to include something for xorg. Afterward, try the guide again, and the two
commands I posted.
Good luck, and don't throw in the towel :)

PS: the compiz I used is from the Debian Testing repos. I installed the metacity-clearlooks
theme, but it seems that you have to have the system updated to Testing for the guide to work. About Beryl, I have absolutely no idea, but I'm using an NVIDIA Geforce 6200 with
the 9629 driver (which you WILL need).

[Rodneyck]

Sorry for the delay in replying; my internet connection crashed.

I just used that guide that I linked (the techno Wizah one). One thing that DOES seem
to make a difference is that I had updated my Dreamlinux, with the Debian Testing repos
(they're already listed, just uncomment as necessary). Do you know about the APT::Force-LoopBreak option? You'll need to activate it in synaptic; after let it update everything, which
seems to include something for xorg. Afterward, try the guide again, and the two
commands I posted.
Good luck, and don't throw in the towel :)

PS: the compiz I used is from the Debian Testing repos. I installed the metacity-clearlooks
theme, but it seems that you have to have the system updated to Testing for the guide to work. About Beryl, I have absolutely no idea, but I'm using an NVIDIA Geforce 6200 with
the 9629 driver (which you WILL need).

This is good to know, thanks. I did see a blurb about the APT: Force thing, but I have no idea how to activate it or could not find it in synaptic. I will do some web searches on it. I think this is the key and especially so with the Beryl option as it kept mentioning this.

Also, I could only install the nvidia 1.8XXXX drivers and whatever I did, either manually or through their setup-wizard, it would never let me get the 9629. I assume adding the testing repos will do the trick then. Ok...back to the lab. :D

[Lucho]

I'd better reply before my connection crashes again ( I hate my provider ](*,) )

The synaptic "trick" is simple. In synaptic, go to internal options. Set the option
APT::Force-LoopBreak; set the variable to true. You won't be able to
update DreamLinux without setting this option, but you won't have to do it a 2nd time.

About the NVIDIA driver, I downloaded it from the Nvidia home page. It's the
easiest solution. Fortunately, DreamLinux comes with the kernel headers already
installed 8) 8)

[Rodneyck]

More helpful tips...thanks.

One more question before your internet connection goes (ouch)...

What debian testing repo/deb did you use?

[Lucho]

Here are the specific repos. You should actually already have them, but here they
are anyway


deb http://ftp.de.debian.org/debian/ stable main contrib non-free
deb http://ftp.uk.debian.org/debian/ testing main contrib non-free
deb http://ftp.br.debian.org/debian/ testing main contrib non-free
deb http://ftp.de.debian.org/debian/ testing main contrib non-free
deb http://ftp.fr.debian.org/debian/ testing main contrib non-free
deb http://ftp.it.debian.org/debian/ testing main contrib non-free
deb http://ftp.is.debian.org/debian/ testing main contrib non-free
deb http://ftp.es.debian.org/debian/ testing main contrib non-free
deb http://ftp.hu.debian.org/debian/ testing main contrib non-free
deb http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/ testing main contrib non-free


A bit overkill, but hey, it worked for me ;)

[Rodneyck]

I did it!!! Compiz on Dreamlinux is wonderful. Wow, what a beautiful addition to an already sleek OS.

I actually did not need your repos, but thanks. The standard ones worked for me. I got errors when I added the ones you listed (maybe some of the repos were down.) I think my main problem initially was with the old version of the nvidia driver.

Thanks so much for all your help.

One question... Is there a compiz manager or theme changer? I found the list of keyboard commands, but just wondering if there was an settings and/or theme manager.

[Lucho]

Congratulations \\:D/ \\:D/ :mrgreen: 8)

I know that there's no theme manager in the debian repos. Why include
Compiz without the theme manager? :confused: Oh well...

[Rodneyck]

One of the Howto guides I found on the Compiz forum showed you how to add a repo to download the freedesktop.org compiz manager. I ran it a Terminal with apt-get and it found the manager but would not install due to some of the dependencies.

In theory, I suppose you could force all the dependencies, but the last time I did that it crashed the system and I had to reinstall.

I also have another issue with Compiz and the dock. If I reboot, the dock sometimes is about 3/4 of the way down the page. To correct this, I have to do a ctrl-alt-backspace and restart the x server, then everything is fine.

Good to know 3D is a possibility and can be done. Thanks again for all your help... ;)

[Lucho]

I'm glad I could help. This is why I like Debian distros: they were made to be
tweaked 8) I might add the repo, right now I'm happy with what I've got.

Which dock are you using? I'm using engage; it works normally (inc. the fact
that it only appears on desktop one).

[Rodneyck]

I am using the emerge dock, which I love. I tried to install and configure on ubuntu and it never worked out for me. If I could only figure out why it appears 3/4 of the way down the screen on initial boot, I would be happy.

LOL, I never noticed it was not on the other 3 cube panels... ](*,)

[Extreme Coder]

I just tried out DreamLinux today, and I have to say that it's a pretty good distro. The Art design is pretty much Mac OS X(with more blue), and it's working pretty well as a Debian distro. But I don't know what makes it different from other distros, except for the art. Dreamlinux is the best Xfce looking distribution I ever saw till now.

[Rodneyck]

I just tried out DreamLinux today, and I have to say that it's a pretty good distro. The Art design is pretty much Mac OS X(with more blue), and it's working pretty well as a Debian distro. But I don't know what makes it different from other distros, except for the art. Dreamlinux is the best Xfce looking distribution I ever saw till now.

Glad you liked it!

I don't know if Dreamlinux is all that different, other than appearance and the similarity to OSX, but by nature Xfce and Thunar tend to be faster. Individuals who use Xfce, generalizing here, tend to use it because they have older computers and couple that with the Dreamlinux look (engage bar, icons, etc) it is a great way to make an outdated PC look like a new Mac OS, and behave like one. I would say THAT is what it has going for it. Plus, it is the fastest install on any OS I have tried. They need a patent on their method/code, lol.

In retrospect, I do think it needs some more time in the oven to polish it out. For example, they have a "backup" they want you to use before doing any updates. For some reason, major system updates revert the icons, boot screen, etc back to Debian. You use the backup to restore the Dreamlinux look after the update. I think they need to work on finding a better solution to this as I for one always forget to do a backup, then I am scr*wed.

It is only 2.2 version, compared to Ubuntu or Fedora, so what they have currently works but not as flawlessly as some of the other distros. I recommend anyone looking for a Xfce distro to give it a shot.

[Rodneyck]

Great Review...

"Conclusion? Dreamlinux 2.2 MULTIMEDIA EDITION is by my opinion the best Linux distro of current time. It has very solid ground in Debian, it has team which knows what wants from it's distro (see our interviews with Dreamlinux project leader) Very pleasant, at least for me, is absence of aplications as desktop search tool Beagle, which is so common in other "modern" distros (SUSE 10.2, Fedora Core 5), which reminds users on old good viruses in Windows, when your HDD starts without giving any notice works as crazy."

Full review:
http://www.linuxsoft.cz/en/article.php?id_article=1394

Interview with João Batista Esteves - Dreamlinux
http://www.linuxsoft.cz/en/article.php?id_article=1379

[Vlatko]

i just installed this distro today and it is looking really nice, however i have some issues i cannot resolve. how can i change the keyboard layout to croatian? i tried in the DCP>keyboard layout but there is no croatian layout listed. i tried with various other similar layouts, like serbian, but none work. this is really akward as i cannot write properly at all, it is really frustrating. can anyone help out?

also after i run ADSL/PPPOECONF and set up my adsl, even though i selected start at boot time, the connection does not start, i have to trigger it via pon dsl-provider.

[Rodneyck]

Try the Dreamlinux forums for help.

Also, did you check this guide...

http://dreamlinux.incubadora.fapesp.br/portal/tutoriais/how_to_install_a_different_language/install_different_language.html/

[RAV TUX]

i just installed this distro today and it is looking really nice, however i have some issues i cannot resolve. how can i change the keyboard layout to croatian? i tried in the DCP>keyboard layout but there is no croatian layout listed. i tried with various other similar layouts, like serbian, but none work. this is really akward as i cannot write properly at all, it is really frustrating. can anyone help out?

also after i run ADSL/PPPOECONF and set up my adsl, even though i selected start at boot time, the connection does not start, i have to trigger it via pon dsl-provider.Since Dreamlinux is based on Morphix which is based on KNOPPIX.....try KNOPPIX Cheat codes

[Vlatko]

Try the Dreamlinux forums for help.

Also, did you check this guide...

http://dreamlinux.incubadora.fapesp.br/portal/tutoriais/how_to_install_a_different_language/install_different_language.html/
i searched those forums, which are not very active for english speaking users, and there was a russian guy who had the same problem and they gave him the same link. i tried following it but the end result is getting dreamlinux on croatian, and a not very good translation, but the keyboard layout is still set to english so i can't use half of the keys.


Since Dreamlinux is based on Morphix which is based on KNOPPIX.....try KNOPPIX Cheat codes
i heard something about those but i have no ideas how to use those, can you be a little more specific? thanks.

[Vlatko]

well i managed to sort it out by editing the xorg.conf. :)

now to get my subwoofer/center speaker working...

[celsofaf]

i heard something about those but i have no ideas how to use those, can you be a little more specific? thanks.

Did you try this (http://www.google.com/search?q=knoppix+cheat+codes)?

[Vlatko]

Did you try this (http://www.google.com/search?q=knoppix+cheat+codes)?
as a matter a fact i did, only after i wrote my post. didn't solve my problem though.

[Vlatko]

i managed to install compiz following rodneyck's howto on dreamlinux forums. woohoo.

have you guys managed to get some sort of configuration utility working? or how to change the themes?

[Vlatko]

anyone here use opera in dreamlinux? if so do you know if it's possible to skin the menu bars in it? this way they are that ugly grey color and really stick out with the rest of the theme. in kubuntu edgy that problem was fixed, opera looks great.

http://i145.photobucket.com/albums/r207/vlatko27/snapshot2.png

[Geekboy]

I just tried out DreamLinux today, and I have to say that it's a pretty good distro. The Art design is pretty much Mac OS X(with more blue), and it's working pretty well as a Debian distro. But I don't know what makes it different from other distros, except for the art. Dreamlinux is the best Xfce looking distribution I ever saw till now.It sure does look nice! I really like the way this looks (icons, theme, color, and the Dock bar) I would love to get this look with Ubuntu. It would be even better (for me at least :)) if I could get it to work with Gnome (any ideas?).

[business.geek]

does any of you know if you can use the edgy eft repos with this distro? I mean I had this wild idea of installing it into my laptop then use edgy eft repos for the apps.

[zubun]

help! it looks good, it's fast on a PIII 450 with 196MB, almost everything works - even the GIMP is superfast but Synaptic does not work! i tried to apt-get Synaptic from root and it told me that I already have the latest version - it only exists in the engage dock though, not in the applications drop down, and when I click on it nothing happens :( I'm kinda stumped, as it worked from the Live CD...

[Rodneyck]

Dreamlinux has released a new beta version with support for 3D...

"We are announcing one more edition of Dreamlinux, the '2.2 Multimedia GL Edition BETA 2'. This edition preserves the aspects and functions of the 2.2 Multimedia edition, but adds the Beryl window manager and upgrades the libraries for 3D graphical acceleration. This experimental version has only been tested with NVIDIA cards. Other new stuff: general update of packages from Debian 'testing'; Firefox updated to version 2.0; solved problems with package breaking; part of scripts in Xdialog migrated to Ruby-GTK2 language; new NVIDIA and ATI graphics drivers install scripts."

http://www.epron.com.br/dreamlinux/viewtopic.php?t=1091

http://dreamlinux.incubadora.fapesp.br/portal/arquivos/gl_edition/gl01.jpg

[manmower]

I can't believe they misspelled AIGLX. :lol:

[Rodneyck]

LOL...I saw someone alerted them to the fact.

On their defense, English is not their first language and it is beta. :lol:

[Patrick-Ruff]

looks alright, my only incentive to try it would be the possibility of better ATI support, but I highly doubt they have something we don't.

[gozzo]

Hi
Can I make my edgy look like dreamlinux with the engage panel?

/lelle

[dralaroc]

I really like this distro for some reason and if I can get compiz working, I might just replace it with my main distro (ubuntu) for a few months and see how it goes.

Same here, I installed Dreamlinux 2.2 Beta over the weekend and I really liked the look. Heck even Beryl work work with a simple click & reboot. I am currently looking to buy a new wireless card for my desktop to I have not ventured into that area yet. I did have some installation issues though; the user name & password setup & the partitioning. It finally worked and so far has been a nice ride.

Good Day

[Rodneyck]

Make sure you do the research on wireless cards and which ones work with linux, some have a hard time getting theirs to work and others don't work at all from what I have read.

[Geekboy]

Hi
Can I make my edgy look like dreamlinux with the engage panel?

/lelle
That's what I want too! :)

[jclmusic]

to those of your who managed to install it, do you have any tips or tricks?

the installer freezes for me every time. i have tried rebooting between partitioning and installing, and tried reiserfs. still no luck yet :( this would be such a great distro if it would install! everything works fine for me hardware wise.

[opticyclic]

I'm not quite sure what is so great about this.
I have the 2.2 beta and Beryl working.
The cube is nice and some of the extra features when moving windows etc
However, apart from that I can't see much difference.
I have Kubuntu Edgy with a kdock bar on my other partition.

Konqueror is a better file manager than whatever is used in Dream.
And several apps in Dream seem to be using GTK1.x
e.g. Why is XMMS installed by default instead of BMPx?

People cite the various codecs being installed by default, but AutomatiX sorted that all out for me on Edgy so it seems like default anyway.

And since it is Debian based you can get the same apps as in Ubuntu.
I'm not saying that I dislike Dream or anything, but after reading all 17 pages in this thread and all the enthusiasm, I just was expecting something else.
Extra special? :confused:
Or have I missed something?

[Rodneyck]

Well the advantage is purely a personal thing and that goes for all distros. Your system is probably different from my system and what flips the switch for you, might not for me.

Dreamlinux uses Xfce instead of KDE or Gnome. XFCE is faster and works better (because it is a lighter environment) on older computers, so speed and being able to have a nice looking desktop are two advantages for older pc's.

Plus they are really trying to make the dock work. I forget the name, envision or something like that. I tried installing it on Ubuntu and ran into problems. It seems to work in Dreamlinux, so kudos for them.

[Geekboy]

Plus they are really trying to make the dock work. I forget the name, envision or something like that. I tried installing it on Ubuntu and ran into problems. It seems to work in Dreamlinux, so kudos for them. I think it is called Engage from Enlightenment. I got the Dock to work for Ubuntu, but you need to configure the apps for it in a text file. I never got past that. Too much work to try out a dock. It would be cool if I could just drag and drop what apps I want in.

[Rodneyck]

I have not been using Dreamlinux in awhile, to busy with Sidux, but they do have another release and it sounds like a lot of bugs fixed, including problems with the dock. Here is the blurb...


dreamlinux The third beta release of Dreamlinux 2.2 "Multimedia GL" edition is out: "We are announcing one more version of Dreamlinux, the 2.2 Multimedia GL edition beta 3. In this version, which preserves the aspects and functions of 2.2 Multimedia edition, the Beryl window manager has been added and the libraries for 3D graphical acceleration, like xlibmesa, have been upgraded. Note: this experimental version has only been tested with NVIDIA cards. Beta 3 changelog: update to Beryl 0.2rc1; solved problems with Engage on all desktops; part of scripts in Xdialog migrated to Ruby-GTK2; Inkscape 0.45; Easy-Install 1.7; other minor problems solved."

http://www.dreamlinux.com.br/

[Rodneyck]

Good review of Dreamlinux...


When it comes to choosing a Linux distribution, people tend to stick with the major players, such as Ubuntu, SUSE, or Fedora. However, every once in a while a distro comes along that offers a look at Linux in a new and fun way. One such distribution is Dreamlinux, a Morphix-based implementation of Linux that can be run from a single CD or installed on a hard drive. Dreamlinux 2.2 aims to offer a full range of desktop applications while providing a wealth of multimedia tools for easy production of professional-grade media.

More ... http://www.linux.com/article.pl?sid=07/03/21/1350223

[ghostaliaz]

I am sorta a newb to Linux in general & I have been using linux for about 2 years now & I love it. But I have a problem I hope someone could help me with.

I tryed out Dreamlinux & I love it and I wanted to install it but everytime it either got to 89% (or) 98% & either stopped there (or) hung & froze there, so each time I had to turn off by holding down the power button on front of tower. The wierd part is that the live cd works so good, but I want to make it my linux distro on this extra system that I have & it just will not finish the installation. I would appreciate it if someone would help me solve my problem with installing Dream Linux because I am trying to make all of my systems windows free(WooHoo) because I am totally fead up with ******* & I want to change all of my sytems to linux but I want to use different ones on each system & Dream Linux is just great & the gui is smoken hot, not to mention the deskbar. What I like about it the most is it comes from jump with flash 9 installed and most of all of the video encoders that I use on a regular which highly surprised me, plus the interface is fast as lightning this is truly one of the linux greats to me, yeh I know I am just starting out, but this distro is amazing. please help, linux gurus!!!

[.aku]

I am sorta a newb to Linux in general & I have been using linux for about 2 years now & I love it. But I have a problem I hope someone could help me with.

I tryed out Dreamlinux & I love it and I wanted to install it but everytime it either got to 89% (or) 98% & either stopped there (or) hung & froze there, so each time I had to turn off by holding down the power button on front of tower. The wierd part is that the live cd works so good, but I want to make it my linux distro on this extra system that I have & it just will not finish the installation. I would appreciate it if someone would help me solve my problem with installing Dream Linux because I am trying to make all of my systems windows free(WooHoo) because I am totally fead up with ******* & I want to change all of my sytems to linux but I want to use different ones on each system & Dream Linux is just great & the gui is smoken hot, not to mention the deskbar. What I like about it the most is it comes from jump with flash 9 installed and most of all of the video encoders that I use on a regular which highly surprised me, plus the interface is fast as lightning this is truly one of the linux greats to me, yeh I know I am just starting out, but this distro is amazing. please help, linux gurus!!!

Dude, what filesystem did you select when you partitioned/formatted your HD ?
I had the same problem (the installation was stuck at 89 or 98, but after I tried again, this time using ReiserFS, it went thru beautifully. It also didn't seem to like LILO, so make sure you use GRUB..
So try with ReiserFS..

EDIT:
And if it doesn't work for ya, there's always Zenwalk.. ;)

Let me know how it goes.

//aku

[quicktime1]

Looks like a new version just came out!! Cant wait to try it out.

http://www.epron.com.br/ingles/viewtopic.php?t=1262

[celsofaf]

No, a new version didn't came out yet, just a release candidate. I'd rather wait for the finished produt. :)

[quicktime1]

Oh my bad, I just saw it on distrowatch and didnt bother reading on...

[izizzle]

how do u add or remove software from dreamlinux 2.2 ?

[celsofaf]

how do u add or remove software from dreamlinux 2.2 ?

I never used Dreamlinux but, since it is based in Debian, why don't you try the good-old apt-get? :)

[izizzle]

thats too much o ask for just to remove a program.

ubuntu has an add or remove option built into the system. Dreamlinux comes with so much software i dont need (gtkpod, bittornado, etc.) and it hogs up HD sapce.

I need to find out how to remove software without going into the terminal!

[Pobega]

thats too much o ask for just to remove a program.

ubuntu has an add or remove option built into the system. Dreamlinux comes with so much software i dont need (gtkpod, bittornado, etc.) and it hogs up HD sapce.

I need to find out how to remove software without going into the terminal!

How can you become a technology expert without getting your hands in grime once in a while?

Using the command line is very simple. Just open it up and type "man apt-get" to read all of the documentation you'll need (For now) on APT. If you need any more documentation you can always look at the documentation, located in /usr/share/doc/apt/.

[izizzle]

ok ill try out the apt code.

My point was, DOESENT DREAMLINUX COME WITH AN ADD OR REMOVE SOFTWARE TOOL!
it would be helpful........ any other ideas on how to add or remove applications in dreamlinux WITHOUT going into the terminal?

[celsofaf]

any other ideas on how to add or remove applications in dreamlinux WITHOUT going into the terminal?

apt-get synaptic :)

[izizzle]

for apt-get synaptic you have to go into the terminal. I want to remove softare without going into terminal.

[opticyclic]

apt-get install synaptic will install the GUI for adding/removing programs that you are looking for.

[Pobega]

izizzle, the terminal isn't as bad as you think. I'd give it a try if I were you, it's very friendly once you get used to it :)

apt-get is by far one of the easiest package managers available; And trust me, I've used others (Ports, portage, etc.) and apt-get is by far the easiest; Ports is the hardest.

Imagine having to remember two commands for searching, one for installing, one for updating, and basically a seperate command for everything else; It's not easy. apt-get/apt-cache are all in two commands. One if you use aptitude!

[izizzle]

ok, thank you. Ill give it a go.

Dreamlinux comes with apt get. It just doesent have the ubuntu-like Add or remove tool

[Pobega]

ok, thank you. Ill give it a go.

Dreamlinux comes with apt get. It just doesent have the ubuntu-like Add or remove tool

apt-get install synaptic

That will install a graphical package manager.

Just copy/paste the command.

[izizzle]

3 CHEERS FOR POBEGA!

I now have the graphic package manager.....YAAY
However, now im facing.........da da daaaaaaaaaaaa DEPENDANCY HELL!

[Pobega]

3 CHEERS FOR POBEGA!

I now have the graphic package manager.....YAAY
However, now im facing.........da da daaaaaaaaaaaa DEPENDANCY HELL!

On a Debian-based system you'll never face true depenancy hell; But what exactly is the problem?

[imon9]

Tried Dreamlinux not long ago. Used it for 1 day and decided it is no god for me.
(1) cant get my wifi to work

(2) most programs included is not my choice either way:
eg:
(a) evince is not the best PDF handle proble today... have anyone try Pdfedit? It opens even the corrupted PDF that ONLY original adobe reader can read (well, and foxit too, but that is in windows box) and pdfedit allow on-the-fly editing of PDF!!!
(b) Openoffice is the way to go for office-related work. Maybe it is huge and slower, but no one can argue its functionally-complete! I understand DreamLinux is more Media-orientated. But hey, sometime we do need to work :D

(3) i dont dig the MacOS interface. No offence, but I really dont understand why all-over from XP to linux, they still try to make a MacOS look out of them?
(4) DreamLinux files system is a bit different...i don;t know where they store some system files ;(

What i like in DreamLinux:
(1) Really fast :) No, i mean seriously, comparing my Xubuntu to DreamLinux, it is like on Adrenalin rush :D Since then, i am hoping to make my xubuntu box work as fast...but so far not that fast yet. Maybe if anyone know why, do let me know :)

(2) Multimedia part is not bad choice of program... but i just curious... Did anyone tried playing RMVB (real video) files with the unmodified installation and get it running? I'm just happy now that i get xine to play these RMVB files.

[handy]

Has anyone used the MKDistro software to build their own distro'?

It sounds really interesting.

I'm downloading the Multimedia version now, it's coming in a little slowly about 55Kb/sec'. It will be well & truely here when I get out of bed. :)

Good night all...

[izizzle]

:(. ok so here is the deal. in ubuntu go to applications> and scroll to the last bar which is "add or remove". My point is that Dreamlinux does not have that. or does it?????? HELP!

[handy]

I have the same keyboard timing problem that prevents me from using Edgy & Feisty on my main box - GA-K8NS Ultra-939 motherboard. :(

I looked at the live-cd on that box & on another with an Asus board in it. I like the look & the noticable speed increase.

I had to set the Network spec's manualy for the internet & it worked fine.

This keyboard timing thing is a pain in the RRR's!

[handy]

:(. ok so here is the deal. in ubuntu go to applications> and scroll to the last bar which is "add or remove". My point is that Dreamlinux does not have that. or does it?????? HELP!

This link may help you, the "Configuring Engage" tutorial could be a solution for you? (http://www.dreamlinux.com.br/english/saiba-noticias.html)

[Pobega]

:(. ok so here is the deal. in ubuntu go to applications> and scroll to the last bar which is "add or remove". My point is that Dreamlinux does not have that. or does it?????? HELP!

As far as I know that's an Ubuntu program, don't expect to see it on too many third party distros (I'm not 100% sure on this though, so don't quote me).

[phynix]

I thought dream was ok. The wireless didn't work and there didn't seem to be any help, well this was a month ago so this might have changed. I think a distro is better when it dosen't try to act like another....just my two cents

[handy]

:(. ok so here is the deal. in ubuntu go to applications> and scroll to the last bar which is "add or remove". My point is that Dreamlinux does not have that. or does it?????? HELP!

Don't forget that you are not using Gnome anymore...

[handy]

I thought dream was ok. The wireless didn't work and there didn't seem to be any help, well this was a month ago so this might have changed. I think a distro is better when it dosen't try to act like another....just my two cents

Some people are familiar with OS-X & like it.

Other's just like the OS-X look & feel, choice is great, the more of it the better, kinda adds to that feeling of freedom!

[handy]

Finally installed the GL version in a box with Asus A7N266-VM motherboard, I'm using it now, the internet setup fine, the quick downloads for nVidia driver's & upgraded Firefox 2.0.0.1, worked faultlessly, which is nice. Adjusting fonts & opacity of front end has posed no problems. I haven't got into playing with Beryl yet, I'll save that until I have learned more about this distro'.

DVD's played straight away, without having to muck about with downloads. :)

I'll get Wine happening tomorrow, & try out DVDShrink. Also will install Cedega & give Guild Wars a run. :)

I'll post results when I get them.

[Edit:] I noticed before I went to bed that Wine is already installed!

[izizzle]

I finally got to try out elive. Now im stuck! Dreamlinux and elive are both alomost equal! I cant decide which one to keep, can someone give a reccomendation?

[livesys]

It all depend on what you like for eye-candy :)

Right now, I would lean torward with DreamLinux because of the beryl + engage factors.

However, it would be VERY nice if the Bang! and iTaskNG modules are included in the next elive 0.6.8 :)

Personally, I use PCLinuxOS because it is just so damn easy to get all the eye-candy and hardwares working. I wish other distro includes tools like harddrake and the nice control panel.

[handy]

I'm using the MM edition now, both releases show their immaturity, but perseverance pays off, sometimes :-)

DVDShrink installed & runs fine under Wine, NeroLinux 3.0 beta also works well. DVD's play well in the drive, but I had to install VLC to be able to run them off the hard drive :confused:

I had things set up pretty well on the GL version, then curiosity made me turn Beryl on... That was the end of that setup! :mad:

So, I set up the more stable release, which I'm using now, it even stood up to a mark all upgrades in Synaptic. There were a few things that it couldn't bring in though. & the quick install for nVidia graphics drivers won't complete on this version? That has stopped me from installing Cedega & Guild Wars just yet.

I'm enjoying the DreamLinux OS, & will get around to playing with the MKDistro software soon enough, that should steel a week or 2 of my life... :)

[izizzle]

handy, are you using the multimedia GL edition? that version is still in development so it DOES have some minor issues.

btw, where did u find wine, in the repositories?

[handy]

handy, are you using the multimedia GL edition? that version is still in development so it DOES have some minor issues.

btw, where did u find wine, in the repositories?

Wine comes pre-installed, you need to run winecfg in the shell. If you need help with Wine, you will find it has allready all been said before in the forums, as you will find with a quick search.

Both versions of DreamLinux are unstable, which is fine if you dual boot or have a seperate machine for playing with OS's (as I do :) )

[izizzle]

is the "shell" the terminal?

[izizzle]

also, does dreamlinux come with conky installed, if so, how do I enable it?

[Pobega]

also, does dreamlinux come with conky installed, if so, how do I enable it?

apt-get install conky

To enable it, create a ~/.conkyrc file with the recipe that you want (There is a thread about Conkyrc files somewhere on the forums, copy/paste one from there) and run it using "conky".

[izizzle]

sorry, but i really dont understand

[Pobega]

Well recipe files are in your home directory, and they are configuration files for all of your programs. Generally they are:

~/.programrc

Which is:

~ = Home directory
. = A . at the beginning of a filename means it's hidden
program = program name (conky in our case)
rc = recipe, which means it's a recipe file

All you have to do is copy/paste the recipe from the Conkyrc thread ( http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=281865&highlight=conkyrc+screenshot ), and run Conky. Read Conky's man page for more customization information, it teaches you how to start conky in the top-right or bottom-left, too.

[izizzle]

ok thanks.

[handy]

also, does dreamlinux come with conky installed, if so, how do I enable it?

Conky is already installed, look in:

Xfce Menu / Accessories / Conky

[izizzle]

OMG. I am sooo stupid :D. Should have known that, thanks handy. How do i enable Wine though

[handy]

OMG. I am sooo stupid :D. Should have known that, thanks handy. How do i enable Wine though

Enter winecfg in the Terminal, select the drives tab, & then the Autodetect button, followed by OK. That is all I do, but I run very little in Wine. Beyond that I can't help you, BUT there are a HUGE amount of Wine threads in the Forums, just search & scan the results to learn about Wine.

[izizzle]

thanks handy, it worked!. Im happy with dreamlinux.

[izizzle]

ok, now there is another problem. once i started wine, it worked and i installed star wars jedi knight 2 easily. however, when i went back to the upper bar menu, I saw a whole bunch of other applications and they did not even have any icons. is this normal? otherwise, eveything else is working fine. any ideas?

Thanks, Imran

[ThinkBuntu]

Curious about DL, I tried to burn the iso, but couldn't because it's too large for a single CD. would it kill the developers to drop it from 700.7MB to 699?

[Pobega]

izizzle: No, not normal, but why don't you go to Dreamlinux's forums and ask? This thread is for talking about the distro, not getting support.

ThinkBuntu: Oh wow, that sucks. I'm surprised the devs would do that. Have you tried it in K3B?

[handy]

Curious about DL, I tried to burn the iso, but couldn't because it's too large for a single CD. would it kill the developers to drop it from 700.7MB to 699?

Grab the NeroLinux 3.0 beta (http://www.nero.com//enu/nerolinux-prog.php?pak=16) demo, & tell it to cram a bit more on the disk? You will be very unlucky if that doesn't solve your problem.

[izizzle]

handy, can you tell me each exact step on how to configuree wine. Exactly the way u did. thanks

[handy]

handy, can you tell me each exact step on how to configuree wine. Exactly the way u did. thanks

I already did, I just do the drives, which is all I need to do for the 2 programs that I run via Wine.

As I said before, the forums have a LOT of wine threads, there is probably a wiki too.

I know very little about Wine.

[izizzle]

ok handy. I installed JK2: jedi outcast on dreamlinux through wine. But then a lot of other applications come on the upper bar drop-down menu. Any info?

Thanks

[handy]

ok handy. I installed JK2: jedi outcast on dreamlinux through wine. But then a lot of other applications come on the upper bar drop-down menu. Any info?

Thanks

No...

Accept it, or join the DreamLinux forum & ask questions there I reckon...

[izizzle]

no offense, but that was not very helpful.......

[Pobega]

no offense, but that was not very helpful.......

What he means is this thread isn't meant for support, except for simple things. Almost the past two pages have been you asking for support. Just join the Dreamlinux forums and ask them, they'll know far more about their own product than we will.

[izizzle]

Although I dont use Ubuntu, I come here because of the large community. The dreamlinux forums have roughly 1500 registered users. However, I love dreamlinux.

[handy]

What he means is this thread isn't meant for support, except for simple things. Almost the past two pages have been you asking for support. Just join the Dreamlinux forums and ask them, they'll know far more about their own product than we will.

Yep, that's what I meant, it was not my intention to seem rude... :)

[izizzle]

I have one question. In speed, which one is better: Wolvix, Zenwalk, Dreamlinux, Xubuntu, SAM linux, Arch, or Ubuntu?

Help would be appreciated, Thanks //Izizzle

[Pobega]

Make a new topic about it; It'll come up better in search results and will bring a lot more people to see your question.

[adamJ5]

Hey everyone, just installed Dreamlinux and it looks mad good. But I can't get my wireless working, which is the most important part. I've checked the forums and the english-version didn't answer much. Did you all use ndiswrapper, or something? Please, tell me. ;)

Btw, I use a D-link DWL-G520 card, if that's any help...


Cheers.

[handy]

Hey everyone, just installed Dreamlinux and it looks mad good. But I can't get my wireless working, which is the most important part. I've checked the forums and the english-version didn't answer much. Did you all use ndiswrapper, or something? Please, tell me. ;)

Btw, I use a D-link DWL-G520 card, if that's any help...


Cheers.

Sorry I can't help you, I don't use wireless, cat-5 cable is fine in my situation.

[izizzle]

Dreamlinux picked up my wireless usb adapter flawlessly. But dont feel bad if you cant get your insternet working on Dreamlinux. Why? becuse I tried it for a while-and liked it- but then I ran into the MAJOR flaws. If you want my advise, try going for a distro that has only the least and necessary amount of software preinstalled in it. As dreamlinux has a HUGE amount of preinstalled software, it can be very difficult to customize and maintain it, so you end up reinstalling it or uninstalling it from you system. If you REALLY want to try DL, then you can try ndiswrapper. (btw, it comes with wine preinstalled, which you can use to install your D-LINK driver through, run it by typing "winecfg" in the terminal)

//Izizzle.

[adamJ5]

Dreamlinux picked up my wireless usb adapter flawlessly. But dont feel bad if you cant get your insternet working on Dreamlinux. Why? becuse I tried it for a while-and liked it- but then I ran into the MAJOR flaws. If you want my advise, try going for a distro that has only the least and necessary amount of software preinstalled in it. As dreamlinux has a HUGE amount of preinstalled software, it can be very difficult to customize and maintain it, so you end up reinstalling it or uninstalling it from you system. If you REALLY want to try DL, then you can try ndiswrapper. (btw, it comes with wine preinstalled, which you can use to install your D-LINK driver through, run it by typing "winecfg" in the terminal)

//Izizzle.

Thanks Izizzle, I'll try that.. ;)

What distro qualifies to those standards? I've tried Zenwalk, but I don't really understand KISS. :(


EDIT: The driver is installed and it detects the hardware, but what's the next step? Sorry for being a zit in the butt, but I really want this working.

[izizzle]

Well, some distros that match the criteria above are the ubuntu family, and gentoo. Im sure there is more though. Although Gentoo is hard to install, it works fast. Ubuntu is a great choice because of flawless hardware detection and great package management. After you have installed your driver, configure it in the internet settings option.....but, once again, I advise you to drop Dreamlinux BEFORE you meet the disasters it has within...

btw, Zenwalk worked slower that Xubuntu for me, AND it has a TON of software preinstalled (like Dreamlinux.)

[izizzle]

As far as I know that's an Ubuntu program, don't expect to see it on too many third party distros (I'm not 100% sure on this though, so don't quote me).

Pobega, do you know any distros that come WITH this option, if not Dreamlinux.....(I dropped DreamLinux anyway!)

[handy]

As has been said earlier in this thread, DL is immature, very young & very much in development. It does not have a huge user base like some other Linux distributions, so the forum is not fast re, help with hardware problems & the like. Also, English is not the native tongue of the main developers.

Wireless & non-windows systems, can be a real pain due to firmware issues & OSs.

So, I wouldn't recommend DL to someone who is not very familiar with Linux. That said I'm not very familiar with Linux & have DL running on a machine without any real problems. I can't complete the nVidia quick install for some reason, & the synaptic update cannot get a few files. This doesn't cause any real problems to me. I can still surf the net, watch, rip & burn DVD's, read, view & create all the types of data that I need to. Wine will do what I need it to too.

I don't use DL for playing games, I have no requirement of customising the installation beyond suiting my drives & the fonts to suit my display resolution.

As far as all the software that is installed by default, I have no problems with that either! DL is very fast, so why would the default install of software matter, unless you have a small hard disk drive?

DL is a great 2nd machine for me, I can be referencing a web page to help me do something on another machine, or burning, downloading, whatever...

DreamLinux is a great Linux distribution, you just need to understand that it is a young one. :)

[Pobega]

Pobega, do you know any distros that come WITH this option, if not Dreamlinux.....(I dropped DreamLinux anyway!)

Learn apt on the command line, I recommend reading aptitude's man page and learn it's many options. There is also loads of documentation in /usr/share/doc/aptitude/, which I've read through a few times myself; I always find the documentation there very helpful!

Aptitude is a great program, better than any graphical package manager in my opinion (Who needs Add/Remove when you have Synaptic anyway?), it has a ncurses interface (Too advanced and confusing for me) and normal command line interactivity (aptitude install <packagename>, aptitude purge <packagename>, etc.)

[izizzle]

I tjink ill stick with Ubuntu cuz it has synaptic AND add/remove.

[adamJ5]

Well, some distros that match the criteria above are the ubuntu family, and gentoo. Im sure there is more though. Although Gentoo is hard to install, it works fast. Ubuntu is a great choice because of flawless hardware detection and great package management. After you have installed your driver, configure it in the internet settings option.....but, once again, I advise you to drop Dreamlinux BEFORE you meet the disasters it has within...

btw, Zenwalk worked slower that Xubuntu for me, AND it has a TON of software preinstalled (like Dreamlinux.)

I'm back on to Mint, and you can really sense the difference in craftmanship. Mint is stable as a brick.

Gentoo, eh? How hardcore-Linux-user do you have to be to use it wihtout too much PITA? Does it detect hardware as good as Ubuntu and Mint?

Cheers

[Pobega]

I'm back on to Mint, and you can really sense the difference in craftmanship. Mint is stable as a brick.

Gentoo, eh? How hardcore-Linux-user do you have to be to use it wihtout too much PITA? Does it detect hardware as good as Ubuntu and Mint?

Cheers

Gentoo is not hard to set up (Unless of course you do a stage 1 install), but it is hard as hell to maintain. I'd never use it on a system myself not enough work goes into the stability of the packages in my personal opinion. But this is a personal bias so you may want to overlook it.

[izizzle]

Hey adamJ5. I was wrong. After finding out that ubuntu could not even play DVD's or VCD's out of the box, and that you had to install codecs which if did not work, you would have to install a new application to play them. So, to save myself the hastle, im back to Dreamlinux. Why? because a whole lot of reasons.

Reasons:

1. Xfce, which is faster than GNOME.
2. A COMPLETE beryl and Emerald preinstallation.
3. All multimedia works o.o.t.b.
4. Great hardware detection. (better than ubuntu)
5. Overall, great speed and performance compared to ubuntu and any other distros. (ranks right up there with Zenwalk, and Wolvix.)

So, I hope you get Dreamlinux workg, because you ARE missing out if you dont.

Btw, when I tried to install my Nvidia driver from the restricted drivers option, it installed and asked me to reboot, so I did, but ubuntu did not start up again, it gave me an error saying something about graphics driver problem.

[izizzle]

Oh jeez, i dont know how long im gonna keep this up. Ok, here goes.... In my above post, I lied. After 1.5 more hours with DL 2.2 GL and MM edition, i gave up on it. for these reasons:

1. The synaptic repos have many miny missing keys, and youi cannot update you system without them.
2. Dreamlinux works only when it wants to. e.g. I put in a dvd and it did not read it. 1 hout later i put in the same one without changing anything and it worked. That pissed me off ALOT.
3. It is not very customizible and as simle as Ubuntu. e.g. The engage bar is unconfigurabe.(Even after 1 hour of searching for a tutorial on how to add and remove icons from it.)
4. The only good thing abot it is that it comes with a COMPLETE beryl installed (I dont think Ubuntu does, correct me if i'm wrong.)

So, sorry for the misleading post above. It was before these experiences.

P.S. I'm back to ubuntu :D

[izizzle]

Here is my custom Ubuntu 7.04 desktop with gdesklets. I think it looks better than Dreamlinux.

[izizzle]

Anyone run into ANY problems with dreamlinux so far?

[RAV TUX]

Anyone run into ANY problems with dreamlinux so far?nope none yet, you?

[izizzle]

yes I have. When I enter the control panel, sometimes it freezes and does not close. It does not mount my cd''s but enters the folder. AND, you cannot configure the engage dock. (can you?)

LAstly, dreamlinux reds my external usb DVD rom in livecd mode, but when i install, it does not read it.

[rsambuca]

I'll admit I haven't used it a ton, but there were enough bugs that it annoyed me when I was trying it out. One little thing that ticked me off was that when I tried to change the defaults of the engage dock, I couldn't 'click' any of the selection boxes in the menu that opened. The menu opened, but when I clicked the little circles, nothing happens.

I never did get my dual monitors working either, but I didn't try that hard. I guess I am used to the ubuntu forums where if you search you can find a solution to virtually any problem. With DL, I could never find any answers.

[Pobega]

I'll admit I haven't used it a ton, but there were enough bugs that it annoyed me when I was trying it out. One little thing that ticked me off was that when I tried to change the defaults of the engage dock, I couldn't 'click' any of the selection boxes in the menu that opened. The menu opened, but when I clicked the little circles, nothing happens.

I never did get my dual monitors working either, but I didn't try that hard. I guess I am used to the ubuntu forums where if you search you can find a solution to virtually any problem. With DL, I could never find any answers.

DreamLinux is Debian based, so all your solutions should be very similar/the same.

All distributions use Xorg, and the dual monitor bit is a xorg thing. It would be the same solution on Ubuntu as it would be on DreamLinux.

[rsambuca]

Yeah, that's what I assumed - it is one of the reasons I thought I'd try it out. But I never could get the nvidia driver installed properly, and I eventually just gave up.

[izizzle]

also,I disliked DL because it has a ton of extra software that i dont need. Which, slows up the system and does not allow you to configure it the software. E.G: Wine, trust me, dont try it on wine.

[astromech]

Hello! I just installed Dreamlinux 2.2 Multimedia edition.I have problems with programs hanging .I can't shut them off.There dosen't seem to be a force quit appelet i can add to the panel either but I don't see much point beacause it does this almost every single time I try to run a program.Somehow i thought this distro was made lightweight and fast so it could run on old equipment but I guess maybe not this old .I prefer the installer on Ubuntu .It makes partitioning a snap.The dreamlinux one wouldn't let me erase all of them and start over.This was on a Toshiba 4020cdt laptop w/PII @300 mhz and 160MB of RAM.Too bad I had to remove dreamlinux.I was really hopeful it would work well nice programs included.Looks great.

[handy]

also,I disliked DL because it has a ton of extra software that i dont need. Which, slows up the system and does not allow you to configure it the software. E.G: Wine, trust me, dont try it on wine.

Wine works fine for me, pre-installed & all.

[handy]

yes I have. When I enter the control panel, sometimes it freezes and does not close. It does not mount my cd''s but enters the folder. AND, you cannot configure the engage dock. (can you?)

LAstly, dreamlinux reds my external usb DVD rom in livecd mode, but when i install, it does not read it.

You can configure the dock & much more of the DL installation, the info' is probably earlier in this thread, if not I don't recall where it was, but someone had screen shots & links to info' included.

[sumitsen]

HI Friends,

After a lot of distro hopping I found this DreamLinux 2.2 MMGL RC3. I have installed it on my laptop which only has 256MB RAM and has Centrino 1.4GHZ. I have ubuntu installed on my desktop which has 1GB memory and P4 3.0GHZ. Dreamlinux is working fine out of the box on my laptop. Uses very less memory and works the fastest among all other distros I have tried on my laptop. I have intel 2100 Pro wireless in my laptop and it works out of the box. I haven't experienced apps freezing problem yet. Look and feel is out of this world without any configuration.

Cheers
Sumit

[handy]

Congrat's Sumitsen :D

It seems to me that if a distro' doesn't like our hardware it's not worth spending too much time trying to solve the problem(s) (sometimesyou/I can't) just go to distrowatch & pick another one out of the huge range available. :D

[rsambuca]

Looks like the official release of the Multimedia 2.2 edition is out. I won't have time for the next little while, but I am sure i will try this one out at some point.

[izizzle]

I'm gonna download it today and try it. It seems as though they have improved alot.
BTW, they have a new installer, the word is that it stands up to Ubuntu's installer.......I suggest anyone should try it or give it another shot.

Lots of new stuff: http://www.dreamlinux.com.br/english/gledition/overview.html

[diskotek]

i'll give a try...

[ThinkBuntu]

I Dugg it with the official link earlier (the other article was linked incorrectly). I'm going to give it a try, as it seems they've really taken the kinks out of the install while adding some exciting features.

[izizzle]

Ok, I tried the official 2.2 MMGL version today. HATED IT. The installer is even more complicated now, and almost all of the new features are downright unusable. Many of the programs that were in beta stage are still there in beta stage, and they added new programs that are also in beta stage! However, they did add a new engage admin tool, which lets you create new icons for the dock, but does not let you remove any. Still, there is a tool which lets you create icons for the xfce dreamlinux menu......which is the only thing in the whole DAM* distro that actually works! I could not even get the FU**ING thing to play a normal audio CD! Oh, and the 'easy' nvidia install does not work either.

Seriously Brasil.....Get it together......

BTW: I think that Xubuntu should adopt the XFCE menu icon creator tool.......it can help alot Xubuntu....

[ThinkBuntu]

Awful release:

No obvious way to monitor network and wireless signals, although card worked
No battery monitor
No clear way to engage hibernate or suspend
Engage admin allows me to add applications that aren't installed, and is missing some that are
Very little noticable speed improvement over the average distro

[pelle.k]

FU**ING
mind your language please. this word has become a plague in every day language, and we are so good at avoiding it here at ubuntuforums, and i think many would like to keep it that way.
use effing, freakin, **** or whatever. does this make sense to you?

[izizzle]

Alright.....Sorry All

[the yawner]

I checked the live CD and appearance-wise, I find this distro very enticing. I wish they could do something like this to polish Xubuntu's look and feel..

[angryfirelord]

My only complaint is that DL uses the kanotix kernel. They should consider using a Debian kernel since Kanotix isn't doing well.

[rsambuca]

My only complaint is that DL uses the kanotix kernel. They should consider using a Debian kernel since Kanotix isn't doing well.

What's the problem here? It is basically just the latest debian sid kernel with a couple of patches thrown in. If Kanotix suddenly disappeared (which I doubt will happen), dreamlinux wouldn't skip a beat.

[strungoutfan78]

mind your language please. this word has become a plague in every day language, and we are so good at avoiding it here at ubuntuforums, and i think many would like to keep it that way.
use effing, freakin, **** or whatever. does this make sense to you?

??? are we in the third grade here?:confused:
i understand we like to keep the forums clean but for christ sake he censored it.
a "plague"??? where are you from man?

back to my point.

DL 2.2MMGL has proven to be a chore to install new programs for me. it seems not many of the repos work and i'm not really sure what debian based repos it's compatible with. also when the repos are working i get wierd dependency issues which can't seem to be resolved.

all in all, i'm in the market to switch distros yet again. as i seem to keep gravitating back to ubuntu, though, it's gonna take a mighty nice OS to lure me away. i'm comfortable where i'm at thanks.

[rsambuca]

??? are we in the third grade here?:confused:
i understand we like to keep the forums clean but for christ sake he censored it.
a "plague"??? where are you from man?

I would like to refer you to the ubuntu forums code of conduct, particularly points 1 and 3:

Be respectful of all users at all times. This means please use etiquette and politeness. Treat people with kindness and gentleness. If you do this the rest of the code of conduct won't need more than a cursory mention.

Profanity: Remember that the forums are used by people of all age groups and of all tolerance levels regarding profanity usage. When in the support areas of the forum, please try to keep your language polite and courteous and refrain from the usage of profanities. In the Cafe and Backyard areas, mild profanity/swearing is allowed in the context of general speech. Explicit profanity/swearing is not allowed, and under no circumstances will we allow any profanity to be directed toward another person. Please see the Ubuntu Code of Conduct's requirements to "Be Considerate" and to "Be Respectful" and the descriptions given there for more exact specifications. A language filter is in place to catch any profanities that you may have accidentally used. Do not attempt to circumvent the language filter by using variations or slight misspellings of profanities. Please respect others and refrain from your own personal use of profanity.

Thank you.

[Ya'akov]

:lolflag:הם מאוד ילדותיים

[init1]

I tried out DL today, and it is great! The themes are the best I have seen. :D

[izizzle]

init1, I would like to hear you say that after you have tried Elive GEM 1.0.

[DarkStarAeon]

I realize originally this topic started on a previous version of Dreamlinux, but I assure everyone that many of the issues you faced in those earlier editions of Dreamlinux have been solved.

I will address many questions, problems and a few false statements made in this topic so far.

So, in Dreamlinux 2.2 MMGL Final....

1. If you install Wine or Crossover Office for some reason the Xfce Menu (that little Dreamlinux logo in the panel) will display a bunch of things that are normally hidden. Right click the icon and select edit menus and you can change it around to your desire.


2. In Synaptic, make sure you do not have the testing repos enabled, if you they are enabled and you do updates/upgrades then things will go bad for you very quickly.


3. Someone said that Dreamlinux uses Synaptic (true) and is built on Ubuntu (false), it uses Debian packages. In Synaptic on Dreamlinux look at the repos, they are from Debian.


4. If you wifi card isn't detected automatically, you will need to go to:
DCP-Control Panel > Wireless Drivers and use that GUI front end to ndiswrapper. Then also in the DCP-Control Panel click on Network Admin to enter your network settings.

5. Dreamlinux uses Debian Stable so not all new or latest software will be available, but, at least you have a stable system.
If you switch it to the Ubuntu repos you will not have good results. But, you can install some deb's as long as they are compatible, which means slightly older versions. Just use Synaptic to install gdebi so you can double click debs you download to install then easily, just like in Ubuntu.

6. Dreamlinux is very fast, Xfce is very lightweight.

7. Despite what someone else said, I have an Atheros wifi card and it works beautifully with Dreamlinux. You just need the Windows driver, there are many places to find those online.

8. If you want to get rid of the Engage dock, go to the Start menu (DL icon) then click on Settings > Autostarted Applications and uncheck the box for engage-default.

9. To install Nvidia or ATI drivers, go to:
Start > System > Easy Install then click on the Hardware tab. Select your preference and follow the simple instructions.

10. If you don't like the Mac look it is very easy to change the way DL looks.

11. The new wallpapers are very nicely done, you can find them on the wiki at Dreamlinux, no artifacts.

12. To make your HP printer work, open Synaptic and install: hplip
Then go to: Start > Settings > Start CUPS + Printer to install your printer and make sure your printer is on when you do so.
To make sure CUPS loads at startup and always detects your printer go to:
DCP Control Panel > Services then enter your password, and make sure CUPS is checked in the list.
For Canon Printers, same process except skip installing hplip and just get the driver for your printer and then follow the instructions above.

13. You can get Dreamlinux on disc here:
http://www.frozentech.com/
or here
http://www.cd-dvd-linux-bsd.com/index.php?cPath=21_126

14. You can get Torrents of older versions here (but not the latest 2.2):
http://linuxtracker.org/torrents-search.php?search=Dreamlinux


15. Prior to 2.2 MMGL, many people had trouble booting. In 2.2 few people have had this problem, but some can't go into failsafe.

16. Dreamlinux does seem to be much much happier with Intel processors and Nvidia graphics cards. Works on Intel Graphics, but you can't get 3d acceleration working because the driver is still unstable and DL uses stable.

17. Dual boot with Dreamlinux is easy, just make sure you install Dreamlinux second. It will use it's own little bootloader, but you can edit GRUB in DL same as (and in same place) as Ubuntu. You can just switch DL with the other distro in GRUB if you want a different distro than DL to load first.

18. Many answers can be found:
http://www.dreamlinux.com.br/english/saiba-noticias.html
http://www.dreamlinux.com.br/english/faq/faq_en.html
http://dream.wikidot.com/manual-2-2gl
and tips and tricks here:
http://ww.itcamefromtheinternet.com

19. The English forums have picked up slightly, but if more of you posted there instead of here, it might pick up a little faster ;)

20. To do updates, make sure that no testing repos are enabled, none of them.
Then just open a terminal and do:
sudo apt-get update
then enter:
sudo apt-get upgrade
This is the safest and easiest way to do it.

21. I have Compiz and Beryl installed and both work fine. Compiz is in Synaptic and Beryl just go to Start > Settings > Enable Beryl and follow the intsructions.

22. To install many popular programs use the: Start >System >Easy-Install

23. To solve resolution issues, after you have installed the right video driver and restart as described in in #9 above, open the DCP-Control Panel and click on Video Settings to reconfigure Xorg.

24. If you enable Compiz or Beryl, you have to select one or the other in Sessions on the login screen before it will work. Nvidia cards seem to be the only ones happy running either though.

25. You can change your default language in Xorg.


26. Thunar is the name of the file manager on Dreamlinux.

27. Always use ReiserFS as the file system when installing.

28. For the guy who missed it somehow, that button that says Apt-Get on the far right side of the dock, that's Synaptic, that's how you add/remove programs. It's there when you install.

29. Conky is in Start > Accessories.

30. Use mousepad in commands to edit files, in Ubuntu you use gedit, for example, if you want to edit GRUB in DL just enter in a Terminal:
sudo mousepad /boot/grub/menu.lst

31. The Engage dock is very configurable. Go to:
Start > System > Engage Admin

32. When you put in a dvd or cd, and icon appears on your desktop, you have to right click it to mount or unmount the disc.

33. Install VLC Player, it will make your life easier. Open DVD movies with VLC if you want them to look good. You can put icons for your DVD or CD drives on your desktop and right click them to make them open with VLC.

34. You can resize the Engage Dock by doing this in this video:
http://www.itcamefromtheinternet.com/video/dockenlarge.ogg
Start > System > Engage Admin to open Engage Admin

35. Use Control + Alt + Escape to kill a Window/Program. It makes a black skull and cross bones appear and you place that with your mouse on the Window/Program to kill then left click the mouse.

36. In Synaptic search for: xfce4-taskmanager
Install it, then close Synaptic. Now right click the panel and select Add New Item, then choose Launcher. Name it Task Manager, choose an icon, add a description, and for the command enter in: xfce4-taskmanager
Done.

37. In Synaptic, search for: xfce4-goodies
Install it then close Synaptic.
Now right click the panel and choose Add New Item, you will find many more items you can add to the panel in there. A few don't work, but cause no harm in trying. System Load Monitor is a good one to add to the panel.
There is a Battery Monitor in there too.

38. If apps are freezing up on you, and they are GNOME or KDE apps, go to:
DCP-Control Panel > Xfce Settings > Sessions and Startup then click on the Advanced tab, then check the boxes for Launch Gnome services on startup and Launch KDE services on startup. Then restart your computer.
This might make startup take a couple seconds longer, but when you go to launch GNOME or KDE programs they will load faster and won;t lag or hang.


39. To delete Engage icons open your file manager, make sure you click on View > Show Hidden Files and go to:
/username/.engage/icons
Then just delete whichever one you don't want.

40. If you screen goes black during the Nvidia driver install, just pretend the screen is still there and enter in the info they gave in the instructions (write them down) on your keyboard carefully, then give it a minute. It will still download the driver and install it and your graphics will come back with the right driver installed. This issue is known by the developers and is being worked on as far as the screen going black, but, you can still install the driver. DL isn't crashing when this happens though.

41. All the information I just gave you is on the Dreamlinux forums for English users, albeit, much of it posted by me ;)


I love Ubuntu too, but I think some of you are being rather quick to judge and a little impatient with Dreamlinux. It's not Ubuntu, it's a different distro. You took time to learn Ubuntu, take a little time to learn Dreamlinux.
It's not GNOME, it's Xfce, so there will be differences. Just because you don't know how to do something in Xfce doesn't mean there is anything wrong with Xfce, you just need to know the right way to do something, and honestly, often times changes in Xfce are easier then they are in GNOME.
Give a smaller distro a break, they don't have Ubuntu's staff or resources. You can count the Dreamlinux staff on one hand.

[67GTA]

Does it use strictly Debian repos? If so, what would happen if you changed the repos to testing? I have done this with several distros because of outdated software. I would have already tried Dreamlinux, but when I see Firefox 1.5.0.7 in a modern distro, I immediately turn the page. I can understand not using the latest every time a new version of something comes out because of bugs. There is no reason why a distro in 2007 can't update stable packages in their repos.

[DarkStarAeon]

Yep, just Debian stable repos. Adding different repos just eventually breaks the system, many have tried it, none have gotten anywhere with it that I know of.

I recently got tired of trying to find ways around everything that was either broken or outdated, so I dumped DreamLinux off my desktop and went back to using only Ubuntu. I liked the look and feel of DreamLinux, but yes, it uses too many things that are outdated or it can't install many new apps I need.

I know they are working on a new version of DreamLinux to be released sometime in 2008, but honestly, the support for DreamLinux is pretty much non-existent which can be very frustrating, which is why I posted so many answers to problems, to try to help.

But yeah, when it comes down to it, just stick with Ubuntu.

[Atele]

I personally like dreamlinux, I used to run it in a VM almost all the time when I was on windows, and I've also had it run on a pentium II 400mhz with 384mb RAM and an ATI 8mb rage card with networking and sound (which is all my grandmother needed for basic internet and organization)

DL could use some polishing, but looking at the development team's size and budget, it's great.

[RSLxH]

I know they are working on a new version of DreamLinux to be released sometime in 2008, but honestly, the support for DreamLinux is pretty much non-existent which can be very frustrating, which is why I posted so many answers to problems, to try to help.



Not any more, The new Official Dreamlinux Forum (http://dreamlinuxforums.org) is up and running with great support :D

[FuturePilot]

Dreamlinux 3.0 Beta 3 has been released.
http://dreamlinuxforums.org/index.php/topic,390.msg0.html#new
Downloading now :)

[RSLxH]

Dreamlinux 3.0 Beta 3 has been released.
http://dreamlinuxforums.org/index.php/topic,390.msg0.html#new
Downloading now :)

This Beta is getting a thorough testing by the Dreamlinux community and has really made an impression.

This was to be the last Beta before the final release, but due to some unforeseen changes needed, there will be a release candidate before the final release.

[k_chupe]

Try Dreamlinux 3. It Rocks! http://www.dreamlinux.com.br/ -Kevin

[67GTA]

I tried the live CD. It looks awesome, but the lack of a normal right click menu bugs me. That is the only thing that keeps me from using XFCE.

[bwhite82]

I tried the live CD. It looks awesome, but the lack of a normal right click menu bugs me. That is the only thing that keeps me from using XFCE.

Thats why you install the Gnome version.

[67GTA]

I didn't know they had a Gnome version. I will take another look at the cd. I guess I can choose Gnome at the login screen? I thought they were XFCE only.

[67GTA]

Yep, it is there at boot. I downloaded the ISO from distrowatch with no mention of Gnome being included. This is a lot better.

[bwhite82]

I guess I can choose Gnome at the login screen?
The option is at the grub screen. I wasn't a big fan of XFCE either.

[ElEdwards]

I didn't know that either! Does DL2.2 have a Gnome option?.... and if so, does Engage work with it?

El

[RSLxH]

Gnome is only available with Dreamlinux 3.0 (which has just Beta and is now at RC1) which will be released next month.