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kyphos
October 5th, 2015, 08:37 PM
I have an older desktop system with 10.04 LTS. Support has come to an end, so I have to upgrade.

Being relatively unskilled in things Ubuntu, I'm following the instructions here (which stipulate I first must upgrade to 12.04):
https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PrecisePangolin/ReleaseNotes/UbuntuDesktop#Upgrading_from_Ubuntu_10.04_LTS_to_U buntu_12.04_LTS

Upon launching the Update Manager, it puts up an error message telling me my version of Ubuntu is no longer supported and needs to be updated. Update Manager then freezes and has to be force-quit. I've tried a few times, and rebooted for good measure. No matter - Update Manager won't progress past the error message.

This system does not have an optical drive, so booting from a LiveCD is problematic.

Any suggestions gratefully received. Thanks.

v3.xx
October 5th, 2015, 08:40 PM
You need to do a EOL upgrade.

https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EOLUpgrades

kyphos
October 5th, 2015, 08:56 PM
Thanks for the pointer to the EOLUpgrades page.
Unfortunately, it's over my head. For example, the first instruction says:
To begin the upgrade, make sure you have a sources.list like the following, with CODENAME being your release, e.g. quantal.

I don't know where to look to see if I already have a sources.list file, nor how I'd modify it as required.

The instructions go on to say:
You can use -backports and or -proposed if you want.

I don't know what either of those terms mean, much less whether I'd want to use them:-(

yancek
October 5th, 2015, 09:12 PM
The sources.list file is a simple text file and is located in the directory: /etc/apt/

The code names are shown at the Ubuntu site below for releases. 10.04 is Lucid Lynx.

https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Releases


You can use -backports and or -proposed if you want.

Can't help with that, never done it but someone else should know.

v3.xx
October 5th, 2015, 09:28 PM
First make a copy of your sources list.


sudo cp /etc/apt/sources.list /etc/apt/sources.list.old

Then edit your original sources list.


gksudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list

Comment out (#) ALL lines or remove them if you want and add just the following lines.


deb http://old-releases.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ lucid main restricted universe multiverse
deb http://old-releases.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ lucid-updates main restricted universe multiverse
deb http://old-releases.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ lucid-security main restricted universe multiverse

https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EOLUpgrades#Update_sources.list

Then update your current install.


sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade

From there you should be able to upgrade to 12.04.

You should also disable all PPA or other third party software.

Release upgrades can go smooth or completely wrong. Do you have backup?

mrgs
October 6th, 2015, 09:36 AM
Before attempting to upgrade please run
sudo lshw -sanitize > lshw.txt and post lshw.txt in CODE (not QUOTE) tags. It will show us your hardware details.

I am not sure an upgrade to a new Ubuntu is the right way to go. We might be able to suggest something with better performance for your older desktop.

Bucky Ball
October 6th, 2015, 09:38 AM
I am not sure an upgrade to a new Ubuntu is the right way to go. We might be able to suggest something with better performance for your older desktop.

I fully agree. A LOT has changed since 10.04 LTS. I'd suggest a clean install of Xubuntu or Lubuntu 14.04 LTS (Ubuntu Mate is apparently light, too).

You could create Ubuntu 14.04 LTS install media, boot from that and 'Try Ubuntu'. See what happens. If it's a nightmare speed-wise or graphics-wise, another, lighter flavour is in order.

coffeecat
October 6th, 2015, 10:03 AM
@kyphos, I suggest you do not install Lubuntu or Xubuntu until you have posted your hardware specifications and until you have understood the pros and cons of the various Ubuntu flavours. Members are right to caution you that older hardware might do better with one of the lighter flavours. However, it could very well be that your hardware can cope with the newer and heavier Unity desktop that Ubuntu now comes with, thank you very much. Until you have confirmed what your specs are, everything else is assumption.

Perhaps more importantly, you need to be aware that the old gnome2 desktop, which you use in Ubuntu 10.04, is now obsolete and has been replaced by the newer Unity desktop. Some like it; others dislike it. If you would prefer to stick with the old gnome2 desktop, then the Mate fork, which comes in the Ubuntu Mate flavour as Bucky Ball suggests, might be a good choice for you. If you need more information about all these desktops, just ask. But be aware that some members here allow their own preferences to colour the advice they give - as in so much of life.

Trying out the various Ubuntu flavours in a live session is a good idea. If you have the bandwidth, there's nothing stopping you from downloading Ubuntu, Ubuntu Mate, Xubuntu and Lubuntu and trying them all out, seeing which works on your hardware and which you prefer, making your choice, and not someone else's

v3.xx
October 6th, 2015, 05:47 PM
Or just install the "Flashback" desktop (similar 10.04 desktop) if the "Unity" desktop will not perform.


sudo apt-get install gnome-panel

And choose your desktop at login.

kyphos
October 6th, 2015, 10:00 PM
Thanks to all who have responded. The Ubuntu community is extremely supportive and I really appreciate the help.

A couple of you (wisely) asked about my hardware environment in order to better advise what release to migrate to (if any). It's a tiny (literally) Zotac ZBOX HD-ID11, with an Atom CPU and 2 GB of RAM. I don't do a lot with it. Browse the web, monitor my LAN, update/maintain the firmware in various routers & switches, and run Wireshark occasionally to troubleshoot network problems.

Below is the output from lshw, as requested by morgaes. Given the diminutive capabilities of the Zotac, my intent was to upgrade to the next (after 10.04) LTS release, which presumably is less demanding than 14.04 LTS.



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v3.xx
October 6th, 2015, 10:44 PM
my intent was to upgrade to the next (after 10.04) LTS release, which presumably is less demanding than 14.04 LTS.

True and 12.04 can run Unity in 2D mode, so maybe that will suit you. If not, the Fallback desktop can still be installed. Fallback uses the same window manager as your current 8.04 install (metacity).

Dennis N
October 6th, 2015, 10:57 PM
We have the identical model (ID-11) to yours, but no longer use it. Originally (2010) it ran Ubuntu 10.04. Then I installed either Lubuntu or Xubuntu releases - the last installed was Xubuntu 14.04. Xubuntu 14.04 worked well, and I would recommend using that. It still has support period left.

I bought a Zotac ID-18 in Dec 2014 for $99 from Amazon.com and retired the ID-11 to storage. This one is UEFI, cool, quiet and very nice. A real bargain.

mrgs
October 7th, 2015, 08:10 AM
For an Atom it's a good idea to install a light Buntu like one of the suggestions mentioned here but there's no point in picking the old 12.04. The semi-old 14.04 X/Lubuntu or Mate are better choices.

You could also take 15.10 (beta) if you want the latest applications. Don't get scared by the 'beta' status, in my experience it is stable as of now.

Whatever you do, do a fresh install. Upgrades are risky.