Software Updater ignores apt-get upgrade?

[Tim_Johnson]

I'm using lubuntu 14.04 on a netbook.
If I run the following from a terminal:

sudo apt-get update
sudo apt-get upgrade
Showing a successful upgrade, and then repeat the commands
I see the following :

sudo apt-get upgrade
[sudo] password for tim:
Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree
Reading state information... Done
Calculating upgrade... Done
The following packages were automatically installed and are no longer required:
linux-headers-3.13.0-24 linux-headers-3.13.0-24-generic
linux-image-3.13.0-24-generic linux-image-extra-3.13.0-24-generic
Use 'apt-get autoremove' to remove them.
The following packages have been kept back:
linux-generic linux-headers-generic linux-image-generic
0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 3 not upgraded.
Now, I see that Software Updater has been loaded in my gui.
I close Software Updater and restart it, to make sure that all system data that it
has access to has been updated.
Still Software Updater is telling me that

Update Software is available for this computer ...
When apt-get tells me that no further upgrade is needed.

Why is that?
Thanks
tim

[Bashing-om]

Tim_Johnson; Hello;

I do not use the GUI updater, so can not directly advise; however:


The following packages have been kept back:
linux-generic linux-headers-generic linux-image-generic
0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 3 not upgraded.

'apt-get update' will not install new packages. In this instance we need a different tool to install the held packages. That tool is "dist-upgrade" .
Try as :


sudo apt-get dist-upgrade

to install the new kernel.



ain't nothing but a thing

[Tim_Johnson]

Bashing-om : I believe I understand you. I'm moving towards console usage only myself, but was trying to resolve the differences and I believe that you have helped.
I've also run 'auto-remove' and rebooted. I now longer get signaled by Software Update.

Can you please sum up the commands that you use to keep updated?

Also, how do I know when the computer needs to be rebooted after an upgrade?
(I'm like to have all of this handled by cron someday).

Thank you
Tim

[Bashing-om]

Tim_Johnson; Sure !

For updating:
I use the new revamped 'apt' :


sudo apt update
sudo apt upgrade
The new 'apt' WILL install new packages as it does incorporate ' apt-get dist-upgrade''s smart mode.
In some cases


sudo apt full-upgrade

might be required.

To check package manager status after a period of time:


sudo apt get clean
sudo apt-get autoclean
sudo apt-get autoremove
sudo apt-get -f install
sudo dpkg -C

Paying attention to what 'autoremove' is going to remove before pulling the trigger. In a dynamic system - though I have never had a problem - I can see where the package status can get cross-wise.
https://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/debian-reference/ch02.en.html#_debian_package_management_prerequisi tes

If there is a major change in the system, such as booting up on the new kernel, then a reboot is required. I do understand that in the future this will no longer be required (!) I am going to manually reboot anyway and pay attention to what the system tells me.

Upfront. I am terminal minded - I did come up in this world before a GUI was. I boot my system to terminal, Then if I want a GUI I start the GUI from terminal. My box is an old dual core Athlon system and I boot up in @5 seconds from a cold boot !
I want to look at boot messages rather than a pretty picture as I boot .



get'r done

[Tim_Johnson]

Thank you. Awesome to get such quick and succint response. Marking solved...

[Bashing-om]

Tim_Johnson; :)

Enjoy

Come back anytime .




good things do happen

[ian-weisser]

(I'm like to have all of this handled by cron someday).

The work is already done for you. See the 'unattended-upgrades' package.
Also see the already-existing daily apt update script at /etc/cron.daily/apt

[Tim_Johnson]

The work is already done for you. See the 'unattended-upgrades' package.
Also see the already-existing daily apt update script at /etc/cron.daily/apt

Thank you!