brotenet
April 2nd, 2015, 07:56 PM
Hi people, :D
I've been a full 100% Linux user for almost 10 years now.
Back in the old days that you couldn't fine good Linux apps to replace Windows apps, Wine and VirtualBox where my saviours, but now, I barely use VirtualBox Win VMs.
I now have a couple of W2008 Server editions on my work PC because some of our customers still use them for some strange reason, I don't know and a WinXP on my home pc as stand-by junst in case I need it.. but seriously.. these days.. Windows just becomes more foreign to me with each passing day..
Nowdays.. people are actually asking me to install Ubuntu on their PCs and show them a few stuff in order for them get rid of the Windows plague..[-o< and most of them (if not all) they just don't want to go back to Windows after trying Linux..
Lately I got really into playing with these ARM Android mini PCs (and a bit with tablets and smartphones though I heate them because everyone is asking me to root their chinese gadgets :p ) and now I'm looking into getting an Intel Baytrail one.
There are also quite a few BayTrail tablets out there that Ubuntu's Unity would look pretty great on but personally I don't care because I just hate tablets :biggrin:
So if I go ahead and buy a Baytrail mini pc, even if I wanted to have Win 8.1 on it.. it would just be strange and usless to me...
If I am to get such a machine, the it MUST RUN LINUX
But the thing is that after a few days of searching I once againg faced one of the biggest issues that all Linux users face...
Consumer hardware vendors just don't support Linux..
They just don't.. even if their stuff works better with Linux, they won't eve mention it..
Even by searching for reviews of people testing these stuff with Linux, there is not enough info to make me want to throw my cash and get one..:???:
Now I am aware that Canonical was pulling strings to get DELL off it's high horse and to promote Ubuntu based laptops in China. I don't know how well that went though but still, it means that Canonical has the power to innfuence H/W vendors, at least to some small extend..
But DELL is let's say a "big dog" I guess and their horse is too high for them to get down easily..
Also concerning laptops, desktops... there's also System 76 that is deticated to Linux support and has great systems (based on Clevo barebones, that personally I think they are the best laptop manufacturer out there.. www.clevo.com.tw (http://www.clevo.com.tw))
There is also Zotac which most (if not all) of their mini PCs support Linux but they don't say anything about it...:-\"
ECS launched its Liva mini PC but they barely mention the word 'Linux' as if it would bite them..
Intel with it's NUC also barely mentions Linux support..
..and generally every vendor out there looks the other way when it comes to Linux support on consumer computer stuff...
So.. my question would be..
Should Canonical promote Ubuntu on smaller H/W vendors?
Small H/W vendors logically would be easier to persuade.. and System76 would be an ideal example to use when trying to do so..
Small H/W vendor comapnies do not suffer from things like heavy beurocratic procedures that slow things down to a point that would cause issues..
Small H/W vendor companies do not have "resistive" [-( fat CEOs, top level managers and other executive idiots that could as well be bribed by external factors in refusing to support Linux..
Small H/W vendor companies are always on the look of new "uncharted" and "niche" markets (where the big boys did not get their hands on) to expand to..
Wouldn't it be better for Canonical to push towards infuencing these smaller H/W vendors instead for knocking the door of companies like DELL?
..just an idea :-k
..what do you guys and gals think??
I've been a full 100% Linux user for almost 10 years now.
Back in the old days that you couldn't fine good Linux apps to replace Windows apps, Wine and VirtualBox where my saviours, but now, I barely use VirtualBox Win VMs.
I now have a couple of W2008 Server editions on my work PC because some of our customers still use them for some strange reason, I don't know and a WinXP on my home pc as stand-by junst in case I need it.. but seriously.. these days.. Windows just becomes more foreign to me with each passing day..
Nowdays.. people are actually asking me to install Ubuntu on their PCs and show them a few stuff in order for them get rid of the Windows plague..[-o< and most of them (if not all) they just don't want to go back to Windows after trying Linux..
Lately I got really into playing with these ARM Android mini PCs (and a bit with tablets and smartphones though I heate them because everyone is asking me to root their chinese gadgets :p ) and now I'm looking into getting an Intel Baytrail one.
There are also quite a few BayTrail tablets out there that Ubuntu's Unity would look pretty great on but personally I don't care because I just hate tablets :biggrin:
So if I go ahead and buy a Baytrail mini pc, even if I wanted to have Win 8.1 on it.. it would just be strange and usless to me...
If I am to get such a machine, the it MUST RUN LINUX
But the thing is that after a few days of searching I once againg faced one of the biggest issues that all Linux users face...
Consumer hardware vendors just don't support Linux..
They just don't.. even if their stuff works better with Linux, they won't eve mention it..
Even by searching for reviews of people testing these stuff with Linux, there is not enough info to make me want to throw my cash and get one..:???:
Now I am aware that Canonical was pulling strings to get DELL off it's high horse and to promote Ubuntu based laptops in China. I don't know how well that went though but still, it means that Canonical has the power to innfuence H/W vendors, at least to some small extend..
But DELL is let's say a "big dog" I guess and their horse is too high for them to get down easily..
Also concerning laptops, desktops... there's also System 76 that is deticated to Linux support and has great systems (based on Clevo barebones, that personally I think they are the best laptop manufacturer out there.. www.clevo.com.tw (http://www.clevo.com.tw))
There is also Zotac which most (if not all) of their mini PCs support Linux but they don't say anything about it...:-\"
ECS launched its Liva mini PC but they barely mention the word 'Linux' as if it would bite them..
Intel with it's NUC also barely mentions Linux support..
..and generally every vendor out there looks the other way when it comes to Linux support on consumer computer stuff...
So.. my question would be..
Should Canonical promote Ubuntu on smaller H/W vendors?
Small H/W vendors logically would be easier to persuade.. and System76 would be an ideal example to use when trying to do so..
Small H/W vendor comapnies do not suffer from things like heavy beurocratic procedures that slow things down to a point that would cause issues..
Small H/W vendor companies do not have "resistive" [-( fat CEOs, top level managers and other executive idiots that could as well be bribed by external factors in refusing to support Linux..
Small H/W vendor companies are always on the look of new "uncharted" and "niche" markets (where the big boys did not get their hands on) to expand to..
Wouldn't it be better for Canonical to push towards infuencing these smaller H/W vendors instead for knocking the door of companies like DELL?
..just an idea :-k
..what do you guys and gals think??