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AMOUAGE
February 19th, 2015, 09:06 PM
https://vivaldi.com/banners/468x60_alt_2.png
currently available as a technical preview in 64-bit as well as 32-bit (.deb & .rpm)
https://vivaldi.net/en-US/blogs/teamblog/item/9-snapshot-1-0-111-2

this is what it looks like
http://i58.tinypic.com/wtern7.png

built on the Blink engine with most of old Opera features
give it a try https://vivaldi.com/

ajgreeny
February 19th, 2015, 11:31 PM
Under what license is this released; I couldn't find any mention of that on the link?

Portaro
February 20th, 2015, 12:08 AM
midori is good

yetimon_64
February 20th, 2015, 12:20 AM
Under what license is this released; I couldn't find any mention of that on the link?
I also can't see any license details either in the link or in the downloaded installer package.

I did find this on wikipedia though ---- http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vivaldi_%28web_browser%29 Freeware apparently, according to the right hand side info box.

grahammechanical
February 20th, 2015, 03:37 PM
I find it amusing that the bone of contention was the move by the Opera developers to switch from the Presto engine to Blink and now we have Vivaldi using, guess what? Blink!

Still choice is good.

Frogs Hair
February 22nd, 2015, 10:44 PM
Works well , but missing many features at this point. The HTML5 player works well on all video sources tested so far. Ill check the progress of the browser from time to time until released.
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Paulgirardin
February 22nd, 2015, 10:54 PM
I just tried it.Seems to work well.
When the built in mail client eventuates,I will definitely switch from Opera.

jacobpratt909
February 23rd, 2015, 01:42 AM
Try to get an Adobe Flash system integrated into it, but still keep it freeware.

The Cog
March 8th, 2015, 02:50 PM
I tried it yestersay. It does somethig weird with the window manager decorations - it seems to disable the proper window manager ones and put its own ugly ones on instead. What's that all about? I found it so jarringly unpleasant that I uninstalled it again without looking any further.

Tar_Ni
March 8th, 2015, 10:21 PM
It doesn't look like it will be open source. There is already a ton of proprietary browsers based on Chromium. Opera, Yandex Browser, Maxthon, Torch Browser, Comodo Dragon, Epic Privacy Browser, CoolNovo, Superbird browser ect ect.


Try to get an Adobe Flash system integrated into it, but still keep it freeware.

I doubt it. They would have to partner with Adobe to develop their own pepperflash and it's a long process. Google did it and Opera is still working on implementing peperflash but that takes time. It doesn't makes much sense either, as adobe flash will not be part of the future of Internet.

shantiq
April 25th, 2015, 10:29 AM
2 fastest ones for me in recent times

Palemoon (https://www.palemoon.org/) or otter-browser (https://launchpad.net/~otter-browser/+archive/ubuntu/release)

Sasha_Aderolop
May 4th, 2015, 01:49 PM
Vivaldi Browser offers a number of features, which Opera lovers will remember. The application allows for mouse gestures for browsing and the ever familiar “speed dial” interface, which shows your favorite tabs on the new tab page.
Vivaldi Browser

The Vivaldi Browser has some new tools too, like multiple tabs. Tabs can now be combined into one to allow for simple browsing of associated sites. For example, if you were looking into your family tree online, you can group all the tabs on that topic into a single saved space.

Vivaldi looks good according to the current flat/minimalist fashion. The first thing you’ll probably notice is that tabs and menus change color based on the dominant palette of your active page. This “chameleon” effect looks fresh at least. It can be turned off if it doesn’t suit your tastes.

WinEunuchs2Unix
May 12th, 2015, 01:42 AM
Well doesn`t Sasha look like the developer come into rescue his package with his 25 beans. Sorry to be jaded but I just wish the mainstream Google Chrome or Chromium or Firefox would just work properly in Linux.

Lacking that a cool little subroutine that would take all those google ads and put up pictures of your favourite car, kids, house, flowers, dog or even (god Forbid) cats instead would be nice.

How hard is it to write a Google Chrome add-in that hijacks all the ads and replaces them with something you actually want to see. In retrospect maybe it would be hard because other users would have to `tag` a give frame as being an `ad` such that subsequent visitors would never see that ad.

benrob0329
May 12th, 2015, 11:49 PM
I use Firefox, Midori and Qupzilla have failed me. I don't like to use Non OSS software if i don't have to....maybe I'll just have to write my own browser once I finish learning to program...

Anyone know of a browser using WxWidgets?

night_sky2
May 13th, 2015, 06:16 AM
I don't like the Vivaldi browser, I downloaded the technical preview and I really wasn't comfortable with the UI. And the bottom panel bothered me, I found no way to remove it from sight. Though it wasn't yet included in this preview, I also find the idea of a built-in mail totally useless. Why an email client in a browser when one can easily log in online? Such features usually bloat the browser in the long term. But I guess I am not among the ''power-users'' the devs are aiming for.

Still, that's yet another Chromium browser. Since I am not that much a fan of the Blink engine, as found in Google Chrome nowadays, I guess I'll pass.

Firefox is getting so good these days, mightily fast on my hardware and combined with BluHell Firewall to block most ads and trackers it offers optimal performance. I have no reason to consider seriously an alternative browser anyway. If it ain't broke, don't fix it some might say.

kurt18947
May 13th, 2015, 08:22 AM
I doubt it. They would have to partner with Adobe to develop their own pepperflash and it's a long process. Google did it and Opera is still working on implementing peperflash but that takes time. It doesn't makes much sense either, as adobe flash will not be part of the future of Internet.

I fear useful flash content will persist longer than many of us would like. New content may use Flash's successors but I don't know how much existing content will be converted.

benrob0329
May 13th, 2015, 02:03 PM
I don't understand why companies want to make closed-source programing languages. I mean, seriously, html5 can be used with most newer devices and browsers. Flash just isn't, it also doesn't run on most mobile devices.

night_sky2
May 13th, 2015, 06:19 PM
I fear useful flash content will persist longer than many of us would like. New content may use Flash's successors but I don't know how much existing content will be converted.

Maybe but even as a Firefox user on Linux I am prepared for that. I've now installed the Fresh Player Plugin which is a wrapper allowing me to use the latest pepperflash in Firefox. My biggest concerns was that I would have to be stukc stuck with the old 11.2 Abode Flash plugin for Firefox Linux in the long term but that's not longer the case now.

For 'Vivaldi' there isn't any concern either, Windows user will be able to download the latest NPAPI release of Adobe and on Linux they will use pepperflash, since it's a Chromium browser.

night_sky2
May 13th, 2015, 06:27 PM
I don't understand why companies want to make closed-source programing languages. I mean, seriously, html5 can be used with most newer devices and browsers. Flash just isn't, it also doesn't run on most mobile devices.

To be fair, the big streaming players like Youtube, Dailymotion, Vimeo and even Netflix have all made the switch to HTML5. The reason why Flash has still a few years to go is because it will take some time for all the streaming and gaming services out there to fully make switch. Until then, you'll still need a plugin capable of rendering flash contents in case you run into such. Phasing out this technology is a process, that is going slowly but surely.

That's why I am very interested in a Mozilla project called 'Shumway'. It would provide an open-source replacement to the Adobe plugin by converting flash content to HTML5.

''Shumway is an open-source (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Open_source) replacement for Adobe Flash Player (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adobe_Flash_Player). It has been developed by Mozilla (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mozilla) since 2012.[1] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shumway_%28software%29#cite_note-tc-1) It is an improvement on an earlier project called Gordon; these names are an allusion to Flash Gordon (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flash_Gordon) and Gordon Shumway (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gordon_Shumway).[2] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shumway_%28software%29#cite_note-2)

[...]

''Shumway renders Flash contents by translating contents inside Flash files to HTML5 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HTML5) elements, and ActionScript (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ActionScript) into JavaScript (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/JavaScript). It supports both AVM1 and AVM2, and ActionScript versions 1, 2, and 3.[3] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shumway_%28software%29#cite_note-3)''

Source: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shumway_%28software%29

Welly Wu
June 10th, 2015, 01:47 AM
I am using the Vivaldi technical preview three web browser and I finally figured out how to hack LastPass Premium to get it to work (mostly). I think that Vivaldi is poised to become a small market web browser that appeals to old Opera users that didn't like it when the unique features were stripped out gradually over time. Vivaldi has some innovative new features of its' own that I welcome and I too am waiting for the stable version to be shipped for GNU/Linux. Once it does, I plan to switch from Mozilla Firefox or Google Chrome to Vivaldi full-time. This has all of the trappings to become an excellent small market web browser. Who knows what portends for its' future?

monkeybrain20122
June 10th, 2015, 11:56 AM
That's why I am very interested in a Mozilla project called 'Shumway'. It would provide an open-source replacement to the Adobe plugin by converting flash content to HTML5.


It was a cool idea, but does it even work other than on Mozilla's demo page? I think by the time it is ready flash will be ancient history. :)

Here is a super amazing Firefox addon to avoid flash for video streaming https://addons.mozilla.org/en-us/firefox/addon/watch-with-mpv/

night_sky2
June 10th, 2015, 10:18 PM
It was a cool idea, but does it even work other than on Mozilla's demo page? I think by the time it is ready flash will be ancient history. :)

At this point it's still in the Nightly builds. Last time I heard about it was last February and it only worked on Amazon's product tour videos. But they have a dev, Till Schneidereit working on it full time.
I guess we'll see. It might never come about but then Mozilla seems commited to this project. Adobe Flash may still take quite a lot of time on the desktop to disappear.

See http://www.techtimes.com/articles/33161/20150216/mozilla-shumway-adobe-flash-firefox-nightly.htm


Here is a super amazing Firefox addon to avoid flash for video streaming https://addons.mozilla.org/en-us/firefox/addon/watch-with-mpv/

Sounds interersting. But pretty much all the flash requirements I encounter are covered with the 11.2 plugin (which I keep disabled most of the time for more security).

Welly Wu
July 16th, 2015, 04:23 PM
Vivaldi Technical Preview 4 was released today. Go get it!

Welly Wu
July 17th, 2015, 10:57 PM
No one from the Vivaldi team mentioned a release schedule yet. This software project is kind of up in the air. I do like Vivaldi better than Google Chrome thus far and I think it has more potential to become a game changer in the highly competitive web browser market, but I think that Vivaldi is going to wind up like the old Opera 12 web browser with a few million users worldwide and it won't pose a serious threat to Microsoft Windows Internet Explorer, Mozilla Firefox, or Google Chrome along with Apple Safari. Time will tell.

monkeybrain20122
July 17th, 2015, 11:07 PM
I just don't see the point in this. The are two major ones: Firefox and Chrome (some use Chromium as a replacement), then there is Opera which is kind of like Chromium but more crippled because no access to google's addon ecology, but the interface is nice.

Then there are a few less well known open source browsers on Linux such as Midori which fans vouch for.

So where does it leave Vivaldi which is proprietary but cannot match Chrome in capability and ecology (which Chromium has access to) It kinds of look like a closed source knock off of Opera (closed source) but without the reputation and user base. If I don't mind closed source, the lack of addons, but want a browser with some of Opera's features why not just get Opera?

benrob0329
July 17th, 2015, 11:28 PM
I'm not sure much of any modern day browser is a "game changer"
I like Opera, just not closed source ness...if they we're willing to open source it then I would go for it.

Welly Wu
July 18th, 2015, 01:46 AM
It should be noted that it is extremely challenging for a new startup company that intends to ship a stable software product especially a web browser in this hyper competitive worldwide market has its work cut out for it. Vivaldi is trying to restore some of the features of the old Opera 12 and it wants to create an online community from scratch to boot. The amount of time, money, coding, and advertising that it needs to pull off just to gain a fraction of the current Opera version are staggering when you think about it carefully. Why should someone even consider Vivaldi when Opera already exists? Why switch to it when you have Microsoft Windows Internet Explorer, Google Chrome Mozilla Firefox, and Apple Safari? Yet, it has the potential to be a serious contender in the crowded web browser market in select countries. Vivaldi is innovating and iterating rapidly by restoring features that the current Opera web browser cut out of it years ago. Furthermore, Vivaldi has the potential to be the real power web browser's first choice in terms of unique features and capabilities like stacked tabs or notes and total customization. Moreover, it can create its own thriving ecosystem of web apps, add-ons, extensions, widgets, and plug-ins with a blank canvas and I hope that it offers compatibility with the Google Chrome Web store ecosystem as well in the future since it is built on Chromium technology. Finally, Vivaldi is not encumbered by existing contracts and deals (yet) that force any of its design, features, and capabilities to a specific company or provider. It is clean, sleek, and modern. If the Vivaldi team respects its' users privacy, then this alone could make it a viable alternative to the major established web browsers from the start as an alternative choice. The key is how it plans to create and foster cloud integration within its own ecosystem and how it chooses to deal with major cloud service providers with add-ons, extensions, etc. How does it handle users' data and privacy going forward?

It's all about tradeoffs. I use Google Chrome because Netflix, Hulu, and Spotify Premium support it for GNU/Linux users right out of the box and it took years before Netflix finally budged and caved in. I only need LastPass Premium and Hola! extensions to do my web surfing on the World Wide Web. I don't choose to experiment with a ton of add-ons, extensions, plug-ins, widgets, etc. when using any web browser. Yet, I know that I give up my privacy as a Google customer and user in exchange for Google Drive, GMail, Calendar, YouTube, Contacts, Docs, and search.

I am paying close attention to Vivaldi because it is a new company starting off with a blank canvas. Each new release brings more usability and new features that I look forward to using on a limited basis. It is fresh, bold, and innovative and it appeals to me as a power web surfer. It's fun and exciting to see this company grow with each release version over time. This reminds me of the early days of GNU and Linux when they joined together to ignite a fire that lit up this world decades ago. I'm not saying that Vivaldi has that same future trajectory, but using this software product has the look and feel of fresh ideas and software code flowing in a direction that I can get behind. Take it at face value especially during these technical previews. If you evaluate and analyze it on its own merits and you don't compare it with the major web browsers, then it becomes an interesting project in its own right.

Frogs Hair
July 18th, 2015, 06:49 PM
I like Opera because it has it's own extensions page and isn't dependent on the Chrome web store . Vivaldi worked fine, but plans to add a built in mail client combined with having to use the Chrome web store has dissuaded me from further testing right now.

Wadim_Korneev
July 18th, 2015, 07:12 PM
I believe a lot of you might know it by now, but for those of you who don't know... Vivaldi can install any add-ons from Google Chrome Web Store. You can also manage those extensions on Vivaldi by going to vivaldi://chrome/extensions

Welly Wu
November 4th, 2015, 06:18 AM
Vivaldi Beta is now available to the general public. I downloaded and installed it on my 2015 ZaReason Zeto desktop PC system. It's pretty usable, but please realize that this is unfinished software as of yet. There are a number of weekly images that are pushed out to GNU/Linux and this project seems to be iterating quite rapidly. I am hoping that the Vivaldi team will release their first stable version milestone by the end of this year, but no official release schedule has been announced yet. This is the most interesting web browser that I have seen come into its own fruition in quite some time. It is now my default web browser of choice on Ubuntu 14.04.3 64 bit LTS GNU/Linux. If you are an old Opera 12 web browser fan, then Vivaldi should be right up your alley. It can be customized an infinite number of ways and the speed and performance are second to none. CPU, RAM, and GPU usage seems to be average compared to Mozilla Firefox or Google Chrome. It's features rich and packed with advanced capabilities and new ones are being grafted on as time passes on a semi-predictable time table. This is my favorite desktop web browser as it suits me just fine as a power web surfer.

rewyllys
April 27th, 2016, 10:52 PM
The official version 1.1 of the new Vivaldi browser has just been released.

IMHO, it's great -- many nice features, lots of choices about appearance, and it's FAST!

I recommend your giving it a try: vivaldi.com (http://vivaldi.com)

I think you'll be pleased.

rewyllys
April 27th, 2016, 11:27 PM
Perhaps I wrote a bit too soon. :D

Lots of things work very nicely, but Youtube videos are not among them. Many videos on the Web work just fine, but many don't, and I haven't been able (and/or don't know enough) to figure out why.

Any suggestions on how to watch videos using Vivaldi would be much appreciated.

QDR06VV9
April 27th, 2016, 11:56 PM
I'm sure you already know about pepperflash-non-free.
I just had to to include that.
From their forums.

It happens only with certain videos. On page reload, the problem comes back for about a second, but then it switches to the older player and starts playing. When I come back to the video some time later, the problem persists - to make myself clear - it only happens with certain videos, but you can be sure, that it will happen again. I haven't found out what these problematic videos have in common though.

Frogs Hair
April 28th, 2016, 12:30 AM
Been testing on and off and have the same flash dilemma as Opera . The adobe-flashplugin package works , but removes the flashplugin-installer version and that can show up as outdated on some sites . I read that the Pepper flash installation method no longer provides an up to date version and that was confirmed when it too showed up as out of date on certain sites.

Give both methods a try and report back . I'm using Vivaldi at the moment and don't see the built-in mail client which is why I stopped using it. I think the memory foot print was too big and that is why Opera removed it from the browser and created a separate application when they started using a Chromium based browser . Youtube HTML5 is working great.

QDR06VV9
April 28th, 2016, 12:47 AM
<snip>
I read that the Pepper flash installation method no longer provides an up to date version and that was confirmed when it too showed up as out of date on certain sites.

Give both methods a try and report back . I'm using Vivaldi at the moment and don't see the built-in mail client which is why I stopped using it. I think the memory foot print was too big and that is why Opera removed it from the browser and created a separate application when they started using a Chromium based browser . Youtube HTML5 is working great.
Good to know Thanks Frogs Hair:D

Frogs Hair
April 28th, 2016, 01:34 AM
Pepper Flash is extracted from Chrome so to stay up to date a well maintained PPA might be in order . Fresh Player is a wrapper for Pepper also and installs in a similar fashion.

gameboy9309
April 29th, 2016, 12:58 PM
Cool!

O)9(yo&#
April 30th, 2016, 03:44 AM
Got it up and running. Very impressive. Love the dark theme with the lake background. No problems so far, but I'm not a power user, just want a responsive, attractive browser. So far, so good.

Frogs Hair
May 1st, 2016, 04:02 AM
I added the freshplayer ppa from webupd8.org to ensure an up to date flash player. If Pepper from the repository is used it won't update.

CantankRus
November 22nd, 2016, 06:11 PM
Just installed this and I'm impressed.
A lot of customization.
I've been using Opera in the hope it would get some of the features of the superceded Opera 12.xx which I used for years.

Apparently Vivaldi is developed by the same 2 programmers who started Opera and it's starting to show
with similar layout and functionality.
At last a chromium based browser that minimizes a tab and returns to the previous tab when clicked on.

vasa1
November 22nd, 2016, 06:27 PM
Re.Opera, there was this a few days ago: http://www.ghacks.net/2016/11/19/key-opera-software-employees-quit/

CantankRus
November 22nd, 2016, 07:08 PM
Yes, I heard Opera browser had been sold.
That's why I was kicking the tyres of Vivaldi. :P

g33zr
November 22nd, 2016, 08:38 PM
I've been using Vivaldi as one of three that I use regularly. Personally, I think it's much better now than it was when it first appeared. It does everything I need from a browser and it's more responsive than Firefox and Chrome. That said, I still use Firefox as my default browser, but that could change. ;)

vasa1
November 23rd, 2016, 11:47 AM
I looked around the settings a bit but couldn't find a way to stop the UI (tab bar, bookmarks bar) from changing color from the default to one based on each site. For example, when on Launchpad, things have a yellow/ochre background instead of the boring grey I prefer:

CantankRus
November 23rd, 2016, 11:59 AM
After you select one of the default themes, click on the edit button where it will create a new theme you can rename with more options.
Save when finished.

vasa1
November 23rd, 2016, 12:40 PM
After you select one of the default themes, click on the edit button where it will create a new theme you can rename with more options.
Save when finished.
Thanks! I had to untick the Accent Color options. Now it's sedate.

kevdog
November 24th, 2016, 03:45 AM
I've tried Vivaldi many many times, and it just seems like it's a step backwards compared to Chrome.

vasa1
November 24th, 2016, 04:40 AM
This is my first try. I had installed Opera (pre-blink) several times but always gave up. Vivaldi's looking good for my needs. There are a few niggles but it looks like a keeper.

Here's a look at version 1.5: http://www.ghacks.net/2016/11/22/vivaldi-1-5-delta-updates-philips-hue-support/

Though I'm not sure the delta updates will benefit Linux users.

7dEfOk4AgU
November 24th, 2016, 05:06 AM
I have tried this browser but there is no compelling reason to change to it from my current browsers

CantankRus
November 24th, 2016, 05:39 AM
I have tried this browser but there is no compelling reason to change to it from my current browsers
I prefer chromium based browsers over firefox and for me the compelling reason is the ability to minimize a tab which is missing in the others.
If you use numerous tabs, being able to view a recently opened tab and then click on it to minimize and show your previous tab is invaluable.


I've tried Vivaldi many many times, and it just seems like it's a step backwards compared to Chrome.
How is it a step backwards?

vasa1
November 28th, 2016, 10:18 AM
I've tried Vivaldi many many times, and it just seems like it's a step backwards compared to Chrome.

I have Firefox, Google Chrome, and now Vivaldi. I used Firefox as my main browser. Google Chrome is for Google Drive, internet banking, and updating a blog. I'm breaking in Vivaldi in case the Firefox devs do something that makes Firefox unusable for me. So far, Vivaldi is far more customizable than Google Chrome and far less customizable than Firefox though that maybe because I don't know my way around the browser as yet.

As for it being a step backwards, for one thing, there's no sync. That's not a major inconvenience for me but for people with more than one computer, the absence of sync would be a deal breaker.

rudihawk
November 29th, 2016, 10:20 AM
Yup, the fact that Vivaldi has no sync is a bit of deal breaker for me, but I still use it for stuff like Youtube.

neothethird
December 5th, 2016, 10:21 PM
Well, it does look nice, but what's wrong with Firefox? It never let me down.

vasa1
December 6th, 2016, 12:06 AM
Let's all try to keep the topic on Vivaldi even though this is the Cafe :)

Wadim_Korneev
December 12th, 2016, 12:30 PM
I have been using it all day and WOW it is like Safari and Chrome got together and had a baby with all of the features that I liked about it, and it inherited some of its own little qualities like stacked tab and side by side tabs.
Having access to Chrome Extensions is a HUGE plus as well. Vivaldi will probably be on my machine for a long time to come.