Install from live usb to other USB flashdrive [and then to SSD]

[shantiq]

I am installing Ubuntu from a live usb to a 32Gb usb flashdrive
when i get to the second photo here it throws the "No Root File System"
message you see here

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What are the next steps? Please explain carefully step by step as I am not very au fait with installing this way
PS i want the bootloader on the 32Gb too so i can pick usb from the bios once installed




thanx shan

[sudodus]

0. Backup what is important to keep, because installing operating systems is risky.

Do you want Ubuntu installed (an installed system like it were installed into an internal drive)? Then I suggest that you select to install into the whole drive.

1. Remove the internal drive(s). It will remove the risk that you touch the internal drive(s) by mistake.

Things are slower from USB than from an internal drive. For this reason you should be prepared to select a lighter desktop environment than what you use for the internal drive, so try Xubuntu and Lubuntu (and standard Ubuntu for comparison). See this link 'Notes about speed' https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/FromUSBStick#Prerequisites

2. Try Ubuntu (Kubuntu, Lubuntu, Xubuntu, ...) before installing it (http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2230389)

3. Start installing: At the installer's partitioning window, select Install to the whole drive (which will overwrite what was there before).

This should 'do it' in a straight-forward way (answer the questions and give the information requested ...).

-o-

If you don't want to remove the internal drive, things will be more complicated in order to install the operating system and the bootloader to the correct drive. In this case you must select Something else at the installer's partitioning window. (I do not describe it now, because I hope that you select the other method.)

[nerdtron]

Removing the internal drives is definitely safer. But if you really want to go ahead and install on the 32GB usb drive, here goes.

Select sdc1 and delete it using the minus sign. (all data from it will be erased).
Select the free space you created and click the plus sign. Create a partition that is about 29GB and assign it as ext4 file system, mount point is "/" and check format. Then the remaining free space Probably about 1.5GB, double click and set it as "swap area".


On the lower part of the installer, be sure the boot loader is /dev/sdc. Post a screenshot again here if you are not sure.

You should be able to proceed now.
I hope you have a general idea here on what is happening on your partitions

[shantiq]

thanx guys going to try Nerdtron's route here [would never have guessed or intuited any of this]and thanx to Sudodus for suggesting i remove internal drive . i shall try and make sure sda is NEVER clicked on at any stage and LXDE is always my choice these days
so here goes ... will see if i succeed .... i want to do this to see if there is any point in getting a 64Gb or 128Gb external ssd to do same

experiments really!

[sudodus]

Watch out with the bootloader! You must actively point it to the USB drive, otherwise it will be installed into the internal drive.

Good luck :-)

[shantiq]

Thanx Sudodus I had seen this and was mindful of that danger

I now see why you suggested removing the HDD first

I picked Bodhi Linux for this as very light

and this is where i got to

But it wants interfere with the sda partition internal HDD [and probably destroy my main install therefore] so i wonder if there is a way to not have that happen WITHOUT having to remove HDD

Photo explains it all >>


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[sudodus]

You can use the Something else window to tell the installer to not use that swap partition in the internal drive. Click on the line for that partition and select 'Do not use' or some similar text. Save it and go ahead.

[nerdtron]

Double click the swap on /dev/sda and check the option "do not use" this partition.

[shantiq]

well thanx to both of you loaded a treat

Bodhi Linux was not telling me how it was going so loaded 14.04 32-bit in the end

and it is no slower then the HDD and completely silent of course and gives me access to my 500Gb HDD which i can use as a storage unit now and a backup so ace


Now the next step of my cunning plan is to buy an external SSD (http://www.amazon.co.uk/Verbatim-47622-128GB-USB-External/dp/B008OE0S56/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1424291104&sr=8-1&keywords=external+ssd) and do the same
Will it install on the SSD as it does on a USB flashdrive? is there anything else i should be aware of?

again thank you for help much appreciated ! shan

[sudodus]

Yes, it will install and run in a similar way. If you can connect the external SSD via eSATA or USB 3, it will be much faster than with USB 2.

[shantiq]

Yes, it will install and run in a similar way. If you can connect the external SSD via eSATA or USB 3, it will be much faster than with USB 2.


Thank you i recently added USB3 ports to my computer but those are not seen by BIOS so i cannot boot from there


how to do that? add new ports to BIOS?


will mark this one here as solved and start a new thread with this question

[ubfan1]

The SSD will just be another drive as far as the installer is concerned. Ensure any USB SSD drive you purchase supports the TRIM function -- just putting an SSD into a ramdom USB hard disk enclosure will work, but may not support TRIM ;^( Take a look around for the optimization/speedup questions/answers for flash drives, and apply those suggestions to the SSD setup (if you can spare the ram).

[mc4man]

well thanx to both of you loaded a treat

Bodhi Linux was not telling me how it was going so loaded 14.04 32-bit in the end

and it is no slower then the HDD and completely silent of course and gives me acces to my 500Gb HDD which i can use as a storage unit now and a backup so ace


Now the next step of my cunning plan is to buy an external SSD (http://www.amazon.co.uk/Verbatim-47622-128GB-USB-External/dp/B008OE0S56/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1424291104&sr=8-1&keywords=external+ssd) and do the same
Will it install on the SSD as it does on a USB flashdrive? is there anything else i should be aware of?

again thank you for help much appreciated ! shan

I've only been running Ubuntu thru an external ssd for last 18 months or so. This is via usb3
The first one which was extremely fast & expensive is currently completely borked, may have been some internal failure or because I made the unfortunate choice to do a full format on (I'd say a full format on an ssd is a poor thing to do.
http://www.angelbird.com/en/prod/ssd2go-154/

Now i'm using a less expensive one, it's doing fine still after a few months. http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00FYIXA32/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o02_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
not quite as fast but still very good

If I get another laptop then it will have to have an eSATA port as that is better for ext. ssd's for various reasons.

(here I do add noatime to fstab for the ssd, don't use a swap at all but certainly not on the ssd & try to avoid unneeded writes & deletes on the ssd.

[shantiq]

thanx for input will go for a cheaper option (http://www.amazon.co.uk/Verbatim-47622-128GB-USB-External/dp/B008OE0S56/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1424291104&sr=8-1&keywords=external+ssd) to start with or something for the same money i can get locally

no eSATA on my 10-year old machine but i have installed 4 USB 3.0 ports recently but the bios does not see them as yet so how is one to make them visible to a ten-year old bios if possible? so i can boot the SSD when i have it from there and not from a USB 2.0 slot


any of you here would know that/? not sure whether i should start a new thread with this or keep it here?


shan

[sudodus]

I know that it can be difficult to boot from USB 3, if it has been added afterwards. If you have a desktop computer or workstation, it is very easy and cheap to add an eSATA port (I have added such equipment to several computers). See this link

http://www.akasa.com.tw/update.php?tpl=product/product.detail.tpl&no=181&type=Cables&type_sub=SATA%20Cable%20Adapters&model=eSATA-45-EX

[shantiq]

thanx for that sudodus and all your other sterling advice. Might be the missing piece of kit i need here

but do i need to have eSATA inside already ? not sure that i do [2005 machine]


sudo lshw


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capabilities: audio cd-r cd-rw dvd dvd-r dvd-ram
configuration: status=nodisc

[sudodus]

That particular eSATA hardware connects internally to SATA, so you need standard SATA connections inside. If you have old IDE alias PATA connections (wide connectors and often wide flat cables) it does not work with eSATA. According to your list you have serial ATA alias SATA, so it should work :-)


*-ide:0
description: IDE interface
product: IXP SB400 Serial ATA Controller
vendor: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD/ATI]
physical id: 11
bus info: pci@0000:00:11.0
version: 00
width: 32 bits
clock: 66MHz
capabilities: ide pm msi bus_master cap_list rom
configuration: driver=sata_sil latency=64
resources: irq:23 ioport:bc00(size=8) ioport:b800(size=4) ioport:b400(size=8) ioport:b000(size=4) ioport:ac00(size=16) memory:febffc00-febffdff memory:feb00000-feb7ffff
*-ide:1
description: IDE interface
product: IXP SB4x0 Serial ATA Controller
vendor: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD/ATI]
physical id: 12
bus info: pci@0000:00:12.0
version: 00
width: 32 bits
clock: 66MHz
capabilities: ide pm msi bus_master cap_list rom
configuration: driver=sata_sil latency=64
resources: irq:22 ioport:a800(size=8) ioport:a400(size=4) ioport:a000(size=8) ioport:9c00(size=4) ioport:9800(size=16) memory:febff800-febff9ff memory:fea80000-feafffff

[shantiq]

ok brill

and is this the same (http://www.maplin.co.uk/p/sata-ii-2-external-esata-and-2-internal-sata-pci-express-card-a35fk) thing as the one you linked but more involved?

or else here (http://www.amazon.co.uk/Akasa-ESATA-45-EX-SATA-eSATA-Adapter/dp/B004QIG9FW/ref=sr_1_6?ie=UTF8&qid=1424340279&sr=8-6&keywords=akasa+eSATA+adapter) it shows in the picture where to plug it

ihttp://www.raid10recovery.info/sata-ports.jpg

[sudodus]

Yes, but the more involved card is more expensive, and might not be available for booting (maybe similar problem as with the USB 3 card).

[shantiq]

ha ok so will get this (http://www.amazon.co.uk/Akasa-ESATA-45-EX-SATA-eSATA-Adapter/dp/B004QIG9FW/ref=sr_1_6?ie=UTF8&qid=1424340279&sr=8-6&keywords=akasa+eSATA+adapter)



PS had a good look inside my machine and it plugs here i think

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one question remains: ssd come with a usb lead but do they also have a sata lead to plug in that socket at the back or do we need to get that separately? thanx for all your info

[sudodus]

A standard SSD is made for internal connection to SATA. You can put such a 'mass storage device' into a box for using externally. Such a box can have eSATA and USB 2 or USB 3 connections, for example this one:

http://www.akasa.com.tw/update.php?tpl=product/product.detail.tpl&no=181&type=Enclosures&type_sub=2.5%20Enclosure&model=AK-TL2SEB-BK

There are several similar boxes, but I have such a box, and I know that it works with SSD and eSATA.

If you get an SSD for external use, you should make sure that there is an eSATA connection, but it might be hard to find 'such animals'.

[shantiq]

ok so get this (http://www.amazon.co.uk/Akasa-AK-TL2SEB-BK-inch-Lokstor-Enclosure/dp/B0098WEQ7E/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1424348331&sr=8-1&keywords=Lokstor+X21) which has USB 3.0 and eSATA connectivity and place any SSD inside and plug at the back of computer with this (http://www.amazon.co.uk/Akasa-ESATA-45-EX-SATA-eSATA-Adapter/dp/B004QIG9FW/ref=sr_1_6?ie=UTF8&qid=1424340279&sr=8-6&keywords=akasa+eSATA+adapter)

and that is the way forward? if i understand it all


thanx brilliant

[sudodus]

Yes

[shantiq]

Right so got my sata adaptor and my Akasa box and inside i have placed a Crucial 128Gb SSD

i fired my live-usb with 14.04 and got to this screen260294

the SSD is seen as sdb but the plus and minus signs are blanked out


Does the SSD need to be formatted with gnome-disks before i do this install?


How do i proceed here ? thanx shan


gnome-disks shows this >>>


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ps also the crucial does not appear as a mounted volume might this be the problem and how do i corrext this? thanx


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ps2 bios sees ssd as a potential booting option so that is good news [once Ubuntu is on there]

[sudodus]

It is probably easiest if you remove your internal drive and 'Use the entire disk'.

The second easiest method is to use gparted to create the partitions you want. It has a better graphical interface. Create a new partition table if necessary, and create a big root partition and a small swap partition. And after that run the installer and select Something else.

[shantiq]

thanx S will try method one first ; just needs to be unplugged i guess not actually removed right?


EDIT: thank you Sudodus for all your kind help. For £95 all in [sata adaptor /caddie/ ssd] it is way faster and TOTALLY silent; which on a ten-year old machine seems surreal. Should have done this long ago

ps
1. unplugged hdd inside [takes 2 minutes]
2. live-usb to load OS to ssd
3. replug hdd as storage unit

had to toggle bios order of booting to get all this to happen but was not too hard; now have set ssd as 1st boot

[sudodus]

Congratulations :KS