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flaymond
December 3rd, 2014, 11:32 AM
Hello guys! Today I would like to get some opinions from you guys about easy, elegant and good programming language to start. I'm actually in C++ learning. But, I find it difficult to understand. It was a very big programming and too powerful for me because I even don't understand how the concepts and how it worked. I want to get myself involved in Ubuntu developing (maybe, someday...:KS, 5-10 years more to count). I tried Python ( since it's the most high-rated and most popular for beginners), and found it easy to coding since it's a high-level language and straight forward syntax. Then, I also tried the Perl language. I still don't know what it used for, but also found it was easy...but slightly difficult than Python. I really want to understand and learn to code with a great understanding..and can move on to C++ language. There's a lot of programming languages to learn . I don't know which to choose.

So my question is, which programming language that you think suitable and highly recommend for me to start with as the first one?

Thanks for all of your helps and opinions!

* Sorry for terrible grammar, I'm not an native English speaker. Forgive me :icon_frown:

slickymaster
December 3rd, 2014, 11:42 AM
There's loads and loads of threads about this on the Programming Talk (http://ubuntuforums.org/forumdisplay.php?f=39) sub-forum. Do we really need to start a new one?

Just from this year:
http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2204979
http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2208632
http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2222587
http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2221991
http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2249224
http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2250365 (you posted on this one)
http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2250922 (thread started by you on the same subject)

flaymond
December 3rd, 2014, 12:01 PM
Sorry if I'm duplicating the same one....I just wanna fresh infos and opinions since there's a lot of update and upgrade with several majors programming language like C++11, Perl 6, Julia etc. I should find if there is similar question before asking. (advice to myself)

coldraven
December 3rd, 2014, 05:00 PM
More links!
http://lifehacker.com/which-programming-language-should-i-learn-first-1477153665
http://www.eweek.com/developer/slideshows/top-10-programming-languages-for-job-seekers-in-2014.html/

ofnuts
December 3rd, 2014, 05:15 PM
Sorry if I'm duplicating the same one....I just wanna fresh infos and opinions since there's a lot of update and upgrade with several majors programming language like C++11, Perl 6, Julia etc. I should find if there is similar question before asking. (advice to myself)

A new popular programming language doesn't show up every month. Answers from 2014 are still valid...

From your other posts you are likely trying to eat more than you can chew. Try to become a bit more competent in the simpler languages before moving to the next. And don't get too focused on languages. Programming languages are just tools. You need to know how to use them but the real thing is the concepts that they carry (objects, functions....) and general programming knowledge (data structures, algorithms...). Languages are to the programmer what paintbrushes are to the artist, and Leonardo da Vinci didn't become famous because he used better paintbrushes than the others.

Read books (http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_sb_noss?url=search-alias%3Daps&field-keywords=data+structures&rh=i%3Aaps%2Ck%3Adata+structures).

flaymond
December 4th, 2014, 06:17 AM
Thanks for the links! Now, I've decided to take Python as my first programming language to start. But, what version should I choose? Python 2.x or Python 3.x. When I search them, some said that Python 3.x is nice, but lack of Library Support ( I don't even understand what that mean). However, Python 2.x is more wide-used and compatible with Linux than Python 3.x (unstable, maybe?). Which one should I chose? Python 2.x for compatible and stable? or Python 3.x for new and maybe will be wide-used in the future?

pauls2
December 5th, 2014, 04:11 AM
I believe Ubuntu ships with Python 3.x and 2.x. Updates are performed as available.

flaymond
December 5th, 2014, 05:49 AM
I chose Python 3.x because the the python 2.x supports has ended....Well, on lifehacker pages and some sites said...that you better choose Python 3 because the Unicode were made as default in Python 3.x. I'm downloaded Python 3.4.0 IDLE from software centre....for highlighting feature. and, I just found a problem when I try this code on Terminal (after switching to python3 mode).


def test():
print("Hello World")


and I got an error that not happened in IDLE.


def test():
... print("Hello World")
File "<stdin>", line 2
print("Hello World")
^
IndentationError: expected an indented block



It only happened on terminal (in python3 mode)..and not on IDLE. Is this bugs, or I just made a syntax error? Any idea?

spjackson
December 5th, 2014, 10:28 AM
You need to indent the print statement (e.g. with 2 spaces, or 4 spaces or whatever you prefer).


$ python3
Python 3.4.0 (default, Apr 11 2014, 13:05:11)
[GCC 4.8.2] on linux
Type "help", "copyright", "credits" or "license" for more information.
>>> def test():
... print("Hello World")
...
>>> test()
Hello World
>>>

flaymond
December 5th, 2014, 11:14 AM
Thank you spjackson! Now it going good....I don't know that space also effecting the codes...well..in C++..spaces are not that critical. But, yeah! Thanks!

veddox
December 5th, 2014, 12:33 PM
Definitely go for Python 3. At your stage you don't need to worry about library support yet, and by the time you do, it won't be an issue any more... Everything else is in favour of Python 3.

flaymond
December 5th, 2014, 12:53 PM
Thanks for the advice veddox! ;)