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rymdgris
August 6th, 2014, 03:49 PM
I've tried to search for this and read up on it but I've had no success.

I made a bootable USB stick with Universal USB Installer. I have an Acer Aspire V5-171. I've tried to boot with secure boot on and off and I've disabled the Quick Start in Windows 8.1 but all the same I'm having no luck getting the USB stick showing in Boot Manager when I press F12 on boot, there's only Windows there.

Any ideas?

oldfred
August 6th, 2014, 04:48 PM
Are you sure flash drive is bootable?
Some systems require you to turn on USB ports as a security system keeps it off?
And some systems require you to set a UEFI passwork to enable anything other than secure boot. But if you ever lose that password, you may convert system to a doorstop.

General info:
Shows install with screen shots for both BIOS(purple) & UEFI(grub menu), so you know which you are using.
https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UEFI
Also shows Windows 8 screens
http://askubuntu.com/questions/221835/installing-ubuntu-on-a-pre-installed-uefi-supported-windows-8-system
http://askubuntu.com/questions/163962/install-alongside-option-missing-how-do-i-install-ubuntu-beside-windows-using


Some others with Acer:
How to install Ubuntu for dual-boot with Windows 8 on Acer Aspire V5-551G. Post #3
http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2176273

Acer V5-571P-6815 secure boot off worked Shows Diskpart
http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2081311

rymdgris
August 6th, 2014, 05:11 PM
I tried using Rufus to make a bootable USB stick instead and it actually showed up in the Boot Manager, but now I have other problems. First I was going to try install Ubuntu on C alongside Windows, but when I'm at the point of installing it tells me there's no other OS on this machine (I'm on Windows now so no harm done at least). Then I tried to make a partition called D to install Ubuntu on, but that wouldn't work either. I get this message: No root file system is defined, please correct this from the partitioning menu.

But really it doesn't matter. I was just desperate, and what I really want to do is what I initially set out to do: to create a dual boot system on C:

But I'm clueless now really :(

oldfred
August 6th, 2014, 05:35 PM
Do not create partitions with Windows. But do use Windows to shrink the main NTFS partition to make unallocated space. Reboot into Windows immediately and it will run chkdsk to update to its new size.
Make sure fastboot or the always on hibernation is off and usually better to have secure boot off.

Best to have full backup of Windows, if you need details see link in my signature below.

And UEFI install with Windows 8 seems to have an issue of not correctly seeing Windows so using any of the auto install options may erase Windows. Best to only use Something Else, but then you have to create your own partitions. I normally suggest a smaller / (root) of 20 or 25GB and separate /home or data partition(s). And if dual booting a separate NTFS shared data partition.

UEFI install,windows 8 with Something Else screen shots
http://www.everydaylinuxuser.com/2014/05/install-ubuntu-1404-alongside-windows.html
http://www.everydaylinuxuser.com/2013/09/install-ubuntu-linux-alongside-windows.html
But I suggest using Windows to shrink Windows and reboot Windows first. But do not create any partitions with Windows disk tools.
http://www.dedoimedo.com/computers/dual-boot-windows-8-ubuntu.html

If nVidia or Ultrabook it may have added issues, see specific suggestions in Acer links above or links in my signature for general info.

rymdgris
August 6th, 2014, 07:31 PM
Thanks, but this is proving more and more difficult. Last time I did this on Win7 it was a breeze. Anyway, I did like you said and made unallocated space and tried to install on that making it ext4 with / as mounting point but then I get the warning about swap which I've tried to figure out how to make space for and how it should be done, but really I have no idea.

oldfred
August 6th, 2014, 07:45 PM
Swap is just another partition. You can save some of the unallocated for a swap partition which has no format.

If you have lots of RAM or over 4GB you may not need swap, but some like 2GB is suggested.

Only if hibernating would you need swap equal to RAM in GiB, not GB or about 10% more in GB. And Ubuntu boots fast enough on most systems that you do not need to hibernated.

rymdgris
August 7th, 2014, 01:39 AM
Thanks again, I was a bit quick in posting the swap problem, I got that working pretty fast after I read further on in the tutorial you linked to. Now (or actually this entire evening/night) has been devoted to actually getting in to Ubuntu. It's on the disk, but the only way I can access it is from Windows holding the shift key in while restarting and then I get the option to enter Ubuntu. So I've done exactly like the tutorial said, seemed ok, didn't work, and then I tried EasyBCD to get an option of which OS I'd like at boot, but no luck there either, so I'm letting go of this now, too complicated and too much time wasted and WAY too much anger and swearwords tossed around.

Thanks a lot for your help though. I almost got there.