View Full Version : apt-get is broken for me- can I remove etc/apt files

June 13th, 2014, 12:29 PM
If I remove some of the files under /etc/apt and /etc/apt/apt.conf.d - will it recreate them on reboot, or can I do so by running a command?

June 13th, 2014, 12:37 PM
No - it won't rebuild them.

You'll be better served by opening a terminal - Ctrl+T then running

sudo apt-get update

to see if there are errors with that, then pasting the WHOLE output from the terminal here for people to see.

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June 14th, 2014, 04:59 PM
Thank you , Elfy

# sudo apt-get update
Ign http://download.webmin.com sarge InRelease
Ign http://us.archive.ubuntu.com trusty InRelease
Hit http://download.webmin.com sarge Release.gpg
Ign http://security.ubuntu.com trusty-security InRelease
Ign http://us.archive.ubuntu.com trusty-updates InRelease
Hit http://download.webmin.com sarge Release
Ign http://ppa.launchpad.net trusty InRelease
Ign http://us.archive.ubuntu.com trusty-backports InRelease
Ign http://archive.canonical.com precise InRelease
Get:1 http://security.ubuntu.com trusty-security Release.gpg [933 B]
Hit http://download.webmin.com sarge/contrib amd64 Packages
Ign http://webmin.mirror.somersettechsolutions.co.uk sarge InRelease
Hit http://us.archive.ubuntu.com trusty Release.gpg
Hit http://download.webmin.com sarge/contrib i386 Packages
Ign http://ppa.launchpad.net trusty InRelease
Hit http://archive.canonical.com precise Release.gpg
Get:2 http://security.ubuntu.com trusty-security Release [58.5 kB]
Get:3 http://us.archive.ubuntu.com trusty-updates Release.gpg [933 B]
Hit http://webmin.mirror.somersettechsolutions.co.uk sarge Release.gpg
Hit http://us.archive.ubuntu.com trusty-backports Release.gpg
Hit http://archive.canonical.com precise Release
Hit http://ppa.launchpad.net trusty Release.gpg
Hit http://webmin.mirror.somersettechsolutions.co.uk sarge Release
Hit http://us.archive.ubuntu.com trusty Release
Get:4 http://us.archive.ubuntu.com trusty-updates Release [58.5 kB]
Hit http://archive.canonical.com precise/partner Sources
Hit http://ppa.launchpad.net trusty Release.gpg
Hit http://webmin.mirror.somersettechsolutions.co.uk sarge/contrib amd64 Packages
Hit http://archive.canonical.com precise/partner amd64 Packages
Hit http://webmin.mirror.somersettechsolutions.co.uk sarge/contrib i386 Packages
Hit http://ppa.launchpad.net trusty Release
Get:5 http://security.ubuntu.com trusty-security/main Sources [17.5 kB]
Hit http://archive.canonical.com precise/partner i386 Packages
Hit http://us.archive.ubuntu.com trusty-backports Release
Hit http://ppa.launchpad.net trusty Release
Ign http://extras.ubuntu.com trusty InRelease
Get:6 http://security.ubuntu.com trusty-security/restricted Sources [14 B]
Hit http://us.archive.ubuntu.com trusty/main Sources
Hit http://extras.ubuntu.com trusty Release.gpg
Get:7 http://security.ubuntu.com trusty-security/universe Sources [4,212 B]
Hit http://ppa.launchpad.net trusty/main Sources
Hit http://us.archive.ubuntu.com trusty/restricted Sources
Ign http://download.webmin.com sarge/contrib Translation-en_US
Hit http://us.archive.ubuntu.com trusty/universe Sources
Ign http://download.webmin.com sarge/contrib Translation-en
Get:8 http://security.ubuntu.com trusty-security/multiverse Sources [688 B]
Hit http://extras.ubuntu.com trusty Release
Hit http://ppa.launchpad.net trusty/main amd64 Packages
Hit http://us.archive.ubuntu.com trusty/multiverse Sources
Get:9 http://security.ubuntu.com trusty-security/main amd64 Packages [55.7 kB]
Hit http://us.archive.ubuntu.com trusty/main amd64 Packages
Hit http://extras.ubuntu.com trusty/main Sources
Hit http://ppa.launchpad.net trusty/main i386 Packages
Hit http://us.archive.ubuntu.com trusty/restricted amd64 Packages
Hit http://extras.ubuntu.com trusty/main amd64 Packages
Hit http://us.archive.ubuntu.com trusty/universe amd64 Packages
Get:10 http://security.ubuntu.com trusty-security/restricted amd64 Packages [14 B]
Hit http://us.archive.ubuntu.com trusty/multiverse amd64 Packages
Hit http://extras.ubuntu.com trusty/main i386 Packages
Hit http://us.archive.ubuntu.com trusty/main i386 Packages
Get:11 http://security.ubuntu.com trusty-security/universe amd64 Packages [17.9 kB]
Hit http://us.archive.ubuntu.com trusty/restricted i386 Packages
Get:12 http://security.ubuntu.com trusty-security/multiverse amd64 Packages [1,157 B]
Hit http://ppa.launchpad.net trusty/main amd64 Packages
Ign http://webmin.mirror.somersettechsolutions.co.uk sarge/contrib Translation-en_US
Get:13 http://security.ubuntu.com trusty-security/main i386 Packages [53.1 kB]
Hit http://us.archive.ubuntu.com trusty/universe i386 Packages
Hit http://ppa.launchpad.net trusty/main i386 Packages
Hit http://us.archive.ubuntu.com trusty/multiverse i386 Packages
Ign http://webmin.mirror.somersettechsolutions.co.uk sarge/contrib Translation-en
Ign http://archive.canonical.com precise/partner Translation-en_US
Get:14 http://security.ubuntu.com trusty-security/restricted i386 Packages [14 B]
Hit http://us.archive.ubuntu.com trusty/main Translation-en
Ign http://archive.canonical.com precise/partner Translation-en
Get:15 http://security.ubuntu.com trusty-security/universe i386 Packages [17.9 kB]
Hit http://us.archive.ubuntu.com trusty/multiverse Translation-en
Get:16 http://security.ubuntu.com trusty-security/multiverse i386 Packages [1,392 B]
Hit http://us.archive.ubuntu.com trusty/restricted Translation-en
Hit http://security.ubuntu.com trusty-security/main Translation-en
Hit http://us.archive.ubuntu.com trusty/universe Translation-en
Get:17 http://us.archive.ubuntu.com trusty-updates/main Sources [60.0 kB]
Ign http://extras.ubuntu.com trusty/main Translation-en_US
Ign http://extras.ubuntu.com trusty/main Translation-en
Get:18 http://us.archive.ubuntu.com trusty-updates/restricted Sources [14 B]
Hit http://security.ubuntu.com trusty-security/multiverse Translation-en
Get:19 http://us.archive.ubuntu.com trusty-updates/universe Sources [30.1 kB]
Get:20 http://us.archive.ubuntu.com trusty-updates/multiverse Sources [2,228 B]
Get:21 http://us.archive.ubuntu.com trusty-updates/main amd64 Packages [149 kB]
Hit http://security.ubuntu.com trusty-security/restricted Translation-en
Hit http://security.ubuntu.com trusty-security/universe Translation-en
Get:22 http://us.archive.ubuntu.com trusty-updates/restricted amd64 Packages [14 B]
Get:23 http://us.archive.ubuntu.com trusty-updates/universe amd64 Packages [81.0 kB]
Get:24 http://us.archive.ubuntu.com trusty-updates/multiverse amd64 Packages [7,090 B]
Get:25 http://us.archive.ubuntu.com trusty-updates/main i386 Packages [145 kB]
Get:26 http://us.archive.ubuntu.com trusty-updates/restricted i386 Packages [14 B]
Get:27 http://us.archive.ubuntu.com trusty-updates/universe i386 Packages [81.4 kB]
Ign http://ppa.launchpad.net trusty/main Translation-en_US
Get:28 http://us.archive.ubuntu.com trusty-updates/multiverse i386 Packages [7,282 B]
Ign http://ppa.launchpad.net trusty/main Translation-en
Hit http://us.archive.ubuntu.com trusty-updates/main Translation-en
Ign http://ppa.launchpad.net trusty/main Translation-en_US
Hit http://us.archive.ubuntu.com trusty-updates/multiverse Translation-en
Ign http://ppa.launchpad.net trusty/main Translation-en
Hit http://us.archive.ubuntu.com trusty-updates/restricted Translation-en
Ign http://security.ubuntu.com trusty-security/main Translation-en_US
Hit http://us.archive.ubuntu.com trusty-updates/universe Translation-en
Ign http://security.ubuntu.com trusty-security/multiverse Translation-en_US
Hit http://us.archive.ubuntu.com trusty-backports/restricted amd64 Packages
Ign http://security.ubuntu.com trusty-security/restricted Translation-en_US
Hit http://us.archive.ubuntu.com trusty-backports/main amd64 Packages
Hit http://us.archive.ubuntu.com trusty-backports/universe amd64 Packages
Ign http://security.ubuntu.com trusty-security/universe Translation-en_US
Hit http://us.archive.ubuntu.com trusty-backports/multiverse amd64 Packages
Hit http://us.archive.ubuntu.com trusty-backports/restricted i386 Packages
Hit http://us.archive.ubuntu.com trusty-backports/main i386 Packages
Hit http://us.archive.ubuntu.com trusty-backports/universe i386 Packages
Hit http://us.archive.ubuntu.com trusty-backports/multiverse i386 Packages
Hit http://us.archive.ubuntu.com trusty-backports/main Translation-en
Hit http://us.archive.ubuntu.com trusty-backports/multiverse Translation-en
Hit http://us.archive.ubuntu.com trusty-backports/restricted Translation-en
Hit http://us.archive.ubuntu.com trusty-backports/universe Translation-en
Ign http://us.archive.ubuntu.com trusty/main Translation-en_US
Ign http://us.archive.ubuntu.com trusty/multiverse Translation-en_US
Ign http://us.archive.ubuntu.com trusty/restricted Translation-en_US
Ign http://us.archive.ubuntu.com trusty/universe Translation-en_US
Ign http://us.archive.ubuntu.com trusty-updates/main Translation-en_US
Ign http://us.archive.ubuntu.com trusty-updates/multiverse Translation-en_US
Ign http://us.archive.ubuntu.com trusty-updates/restricted Translation-en_US
Ign http://us.archive.ubuntu.com trusty-updates/universe Translation-en_US
Ign http://us.archive.ubuntu.com trusty-backports/main Translation-en_US
Ign http://us.archive.ubuntu.com trusty-backports/multiverse Translation-en_US
Ign http://us.archive.ubuntu.com trusty-backports/restricted Translation-en_US
Ign http://us.archive.ubuntu.com trusty-backports/universe Translation-en_US
Fetched 852 kB in 12s (67.1 kB/s)
Reading package lists... Done

Thanks again for your help

June 14th, 2014, 05:12 PM
no errors then - or did you not post that part ;)

June 14th, 2014, 08:34 PM
I'm guessing APT is broken for you because you have Debian sarge repos in your Ubuntu trusty sources; not something that's usually a good idea.

June 15th, 2014, 09:57 AM
Right, Elfy- no errors- I posted all, as requested.

OS/2 - yes, I did that too (just a bit of dev on it, unfortunately! I wish it were still around as an OS, OS.

How do I get rid of the "sarge" repos? I am going to try, but if I mess it up, I want to know the right (maybe the complete) way (I will backup first, of course).

June 15th, 2014, 10:04 AM
sudo cp /etc/apt/sources.list /etc/apt/sources.list.1506

Thats it backed up.

sudo nano sudo cp /etc/apt/sources.list

Put a # at the beginning of lines you don't want.

Ctrl+X, Y, Enter

If you've repos from PPAs to deal with, they live in sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list.d/

June 15th, 2014, 10:04 AM
I edited "/etc/sources.list" and found that the "sarge" references are from webmin, so I left them alone. This is also reflected in the "apt-get update" output. Things were working fine after webmin was installed soon after Ubuntu itself. I've installed and removed lots of stuff since Webmin was here.

June 15th, 2014, 11:01 AM
I am trying to find out how to completely remove a ppa. While doing this, I stumbled across a tool that promised to do that. All I had to do was add their ppa with "add-apt-repository", then install their software (which I expected to fail). But the intermediate step was, of course "apt-get update" which now fails after what used to be the end, and now is evidently trying to get package lists for the new ppa. The network connection is bad when it gets there: some servers can't be reached some time out. So now I need to find out how to manually remove that ppa, and maybe one other that I think could be a stinker.

June 15th, 2014, 11:10 AM
Bits of the ubuntu infrastructure are down at the moment. Launchpad is one of them - where PPAs live

To manually remove a PPA - simply remove the offending list from /etc/apt/sources.list.d/ then update.

June 15th, 2014, 11:18 AM
is there a way to tell apt-get to just deal with one thing at a time. When I try to remove "kompozer", I get errors from brscan2. When I try to remove that, I get errors from "kompozer". If I could just tell apt-get to ignore everything else while it removes (or installs) something- I think that would do it. It appears that both kmopozer and brscan2 were both removed, but unsuccessfully- incompletely.

June 15th, 2014, 11:21 AM
Bits of the ubuntu infrastructure are down at the moment. Launchpad is one of them - where PPAs live

To manually remove a PPA - simply remove the offending list from /etc/apt/sources.list.d/ then update.

You're "the man", Elfy! I will mash into that soon, it's 3:20AM here so I might not report back until tomorrow. But removing those PPAs is a big start, maybe it'll help too! ;)

June 15th, 2014, 11:25 AM
Please bear in mind though that just manually removing PPAs can cause issues with packages afterwards.

It is much much better to use ppa-purge to do that - that will work through and put changed packages back to where they were prior to a PPA - see http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2229553

June 15th, 2014, 12:50 PM
There is also a mix of Precise and Trusty repositories in your sources.list. Which Ubuntu release are you using ?

June 16th, 2014, 01:24 AM
I am using Ubuntu (Kubuntu, actually) 14.04. I use kdm too.

June 16th, 2014, 01:32 AM
Elfy- thanks for the info on PPAs and the thread which holds some clues based on the similarities to my situation. I'm bookmarking that and will set about working through that process soon. I have to do a little project first. I could just trash everything and reinstall, but the whole point of installing it was to learn something and then to master Ubuntu. So I'd rather beat myself and my PC up a little and have something to show for it in the way of new knowledge and experience. Thanks for your help and guidance.