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Brendan_Doyle
January 25th, 2014, 02:42 AM
I'm having trouble getting past this, when I press change, the installation closes. It tells me I need to select a root in the partition menu. I am trying to install Ubuntu and get rid of windows, I noticed when I went to install it doesn't ask me if I want to replace Windows as well.

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Bashing-om
January 25th, 2014, 03:18 AM
Brendan_Doyle; Hi !

Back up to the partitioning set up, choose the partition you want as "root" -> change ->and in the next screen input '/' -no quote marks - in the "use as" box. [to the installer root = / ]

No option to install along side Windows: Maybe, the installer thinks you know what you are doing in the "something else" method of installation (?). Did you see that option prior to choosing "something else" ?


The install wizard is smart, but



sometimes it wants things explained - explicitly.

QIII
January 25th, 2014, 03:22 AM
Hello!

Please be considerate of those with low bandwidth or periodic data restrictions and use the attach functionality (the paper clip icon) rather than pasting large images.

Thanks.

Brendan_Doyle
January 25th, 2014, 03:26 AM
I didn't ever see a partitioning set up. I don't know if this is useful information, but I am trying to put Ubuntu on an HP pavilion DM4-3090SE. I heard that the 4 partitions this computer comes with make an issue, and as suggested I deleted my HP_TOOLS partition, but it's still not working.

Brendan_Doyle
January 25th, 2014, 03:35 AM
I did a terminal code, and it came up with this.


ubuntu@ubuntu:~$ sudo fdisk -l

Disk /dev/sda: 32.0 GB, 32017047552 bytes
255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 3892 cylinders, total 62533296 sectors
Units = sectors of 1 * 512 = 512 bytes
Sector size (logical/physical): 512 bytes / 512 bytes
I/O size (minimum/optimal): 512 bytes / 512 bytes
Disk identifier: 0xe6000000

Disk /dev/sda doesn't contain a valid partition table

Disk /dev/sdb: 500.1 GB, 500107862016 bytes
255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 60801 cylinders, total 976773168 sectors
Units = sectors of 1 * 512 = 512 bytes
Sector size (logical/physical): 512 bytes / 4096 bytes
I/O size (minimum/optimal): 4096 bytes / 4096 bytes
Disk identifier: 0x99e03f5a

Device Boot Start End Blocks Id System
/dev/sdb1 * 2048 409599 203776 7 HPFS/NTFS/exFAT
/dev/sdb2 409600 933101567 466345984 7 HPFS/NTFS/exFAT
/dev/sdb3 933101568 968433663 17666048 7 HPFS/NTFS/exFAT
ubuntu@ubuntu:~$ sudo parted /dev/sda print all
Error: /dev/sda: unrecognised disk label

Brendan_Doyle
January 25th, 2014, 03:51 AM
This is what GParted is showing.







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fantab
January 25th, 2014, 03:56 AM
Post the output of:


sudo parted -l

Brendan_Doyle
January 25th, 2014, 04:00 AM
Post the output of:


sudo parted -l

Here it is.


ubuntu@ubuntu:~$ sudo parted -l
Error: /dev/sda: unrecognised disk label

Model: ATA ST9500423AS (scsi)
Disk /dev/sdb: 500GB
Sector size (logical/physical): 512B/4096B
Partition Table: msdos

Number Start End Size Type File system Flags
1 1049kB 210MB 209MB primary ntfs boot
2 210MB 478GB 478GB primary ntfs
3 478GB 496GB 18.1GB primary ntfs


Warning: Unable to open /dev/sr0 read-write (Read-only file system). /dev/sr0
has been opened read-only.
Error: Can't have a partition outside the disk!

QIII
January 25th, 2014, 04:03 AM
Hello again.

Don't mean to nag, Brendan_Doyle. Looks like you are new to the forums.

It helps others distinguish what you are posting from the terminal and what you are typing if you put all code between code tags.

So please use code tags - if you are using New Reply button - highlight text and use the # button in the text box header.

If using Quick Reply then
at the beginning and at the end.

Cheers!

fantab
January 25th, 2014, 04:05 AM
Error: /dev/sda: unrecognised disk label

Is there another HDD in the picture? or is it a SSD? If its a SSD, did it come pre-installed?

What Windows do you have, Eight or Seven? Did it come pre-installed?

Brendan_Doyle
January 25th, 2014, 04:10 AM
Is there another HDD in the picture? or is it a SSD? If its a SSD, did it come pre-installed?

What Windows do you have, Eight or Seven? Did it come pre-installed?

This computer has a 500gb hybrid drive with a SSD partition, or something like that. Windows 7 and it came pre-installed.

http://www.amazon.com/HP-dm4-3090se-14-0-Inch-Screen-Laptop/dp/B006OEL9GU

slooksterpsv
January 25th, 2014, 04:10 AM
The red exclamation on the /dev/sdb2 (the 446GB volume) tells me that's where Windows is installed and it:
1 has a hibernation file (Windows 8 no longer "shuts down" to get rid of the hibernation file you have to choose restart) or
2 has errors on the disk that check disk needs to correct.

/dev/sda seems like it's an SSD - respond to fantab's questions posted above, that will help us out greatly.

EDIT: Ahh I see the /dev/sda doesn't have a partition table meaning it must be brand new (or it's been wiped) most likely brand new; you will have to create either an MBR or GPT on that drive to use it. if you don't want to use that. Restart in Windows, run the check disk, retry the Ubuntu and let us know.

Brendan_Doyle
January 25th, 2014, 04:22 AM
The red exclamation on the /dev/sdb2 (the 446GB volume) tells me that's where Windows is installed and it:
1 has a hibernation file (Windows 8 no longer "shuts down" to get rid of the hibernation file you have to choose restart) or
2 has errors on the disk that check disk needs to correct.

/dev/sda seems like it's an SSD - respond to fantab's questions posted above, that will help us out greatly.

EDIT: Ahh I see the /dev/sda doesn't have a partition table meaning it must be brand new (or it's been wiped) most likely brand new; you will have to create either an MBR or GPT on that drive to use it. if you don't want to use that. Restart in Windows, run the check disk, retry the Ubuntu and let us know.

It hasn't been wiped and its not brand new, it's used for windows system files I think, go to the link I posted, this laptop has a 20gb mSATA.

fantab
January 25th, 2014, 04:25 AM
This computer has a 500gb hybrid drive with a SSD partition, or something like that. Windows 7 and it came pre-installed.

Okay.

Firstly, Check in your BIOS for 'SATA MODE' or HDD mode and tell us what it is set to: RAID or AHCI.
If it is set to RAID then there is good chance that you have IntelSRT, which uses a sort of RAID technology to use SSD as a 'cacheing' device. This 'cacheing' makes Windows fast.
You have to disable IntelSRT in BIOS and set the SATA Mode to AHCI. The benefit of this is that you can free up your SSD and use it to install Ubuntu. OS will boot faster from SSD.
Ubuntu will not install easily if IntelSRT is enabled. If you like 'cacheing' service in Windows then you can use a 2-4gb USB drive to achieve the same.

Secondly check and make sure your Windows is not Hibernating. If it is then disable Hibernation (http://www.sevenforums.com/tutorials/819-hibernate-enable-disable.html).

Now boot with Ubuntu Live DVD/USB, install and tell us what options does it give....

Brendan_Doyle
January 25th, 2014, 04:51 AM
Okay.

Firstly, Check in your BIOS for 'SATA MODE' or HDD mode and tell us what it is set to: RAID or AHCI.
If it is set to RAID then there is good chance that you have IntelSRT, which uses a sort of RAID technology to use SSD as a 'cacheing' device. This 'cacheing' makes Windows fast.
You have to disable IntelSRT in BIOS and set the SATA Mode to AHCI. The benefit of this is that you can free up your SSD and use it to install Ubuntu. OS will boot faster from SSD.
Ubuntu will not install easily if IntelSRT is enabled. If you like 'cacheing' service in Windows then you can use a 2-4gb USB drive to achieve the same.

Secondly check and make sure your Windows is not Hibernating. If it is then disable Hibernation (http://www.sevenforums.com/tutorials/819-hibernate-enable-disable.html).

Now boot with Ubuntu Live DVD/USB, install and tell us what options does it give....

I dont think I could find what you wanted, here are some pics from my BIOS.

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Brendan_Doyle
January 25th, 2014, 05:19 AM
So is there any hope of me getting Ubuntu onto my laptop, or should I just give up? lol

fantab
January 25th, 2014, 06:10 AM
That is ok...Generally OEMs use SSD as a 'cacheing' device with help from IntelSRT. Looks like you don't have it.

Does your Windows 'Hibernate'?

From Windows Disk management utility, in Windows, can you show the screenshot of both your SSD and HDD partitions?

Brendan_Doyle
January 25th, 2014, 06:26 AM
That is ok...Generally OEMs use SSD as a 'cacheing' device with help from IntelSRT. Looks like you don't have it.

Does your Windows 'Hibernate'?

From Windows Disk management utility, in Windows, can you show the screenshot of both your SSD and HDD partitions?

I don't think it's hibernating because i shut off windows completely before booting ubuntu. Here is the screenshot.. I am also downloading Fedora 20 and going to see how that goes.

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fantab
January 25th, 2014, 06:49 AM
Run 'chkdsk' on your HDD from windows: how to (http://www.eightforums.com/tutorials/6221-chkdsk-check-drive-errors-windows-8-a.html)
Then Shrink one of your Windows Partition to make space for Ubuntu: how to (http://www.sevenforums.com/tutorials/2672-partition-volume-shrink.html)
Leave the newly created space as 'unallocated'.
Run 'chkdsk' again. And reboot your Windows a couple of times.

Boot Ubuntu in "Try Ubuntu' mode. Open Gparted, Select 'unallocated/empty space' and make an EXTENDED Partition. After you have created an extended partition you will still see equal amount of 'unallocated space', its normal. Its where subsequent Logical partitions will be created.
Install Ubuntu from desktop... tell us if you can proceed.

Be careful with Fedora its installer is bit tricky and you might end up wiping out Windows.

By the way, your screenshot does not show SSD? See if you can find it in Gparted.

Brendan_Doyle
January 25th, 2014, 07:07 AM
Run 'chkdsk' on your HDD from windows: how to (http://www.eightforums.com/tutorials/6221-chkdsk-check-drive-errors-windows-8-a.html)
Then Shrink one of your Windows Partition to make space for Ubuntu: how to (http://www.sevenforums.com/tutorials/2672-partition-volume-shrink.html)
Leave the newly created space as 'unallocated'.
Run 'chkdsk' again. And reboot your Windows a couple of times.

Boot Ubuntu in "Try Ubuntu' mode. Open Gparted, Select 'unallocated/empty space' and make an EXTENDED Partition. After you have created an extended partition you will still see equal amount of 'unallocated space', its normal. Its where subsequent Logical partitions will be created.
Install Ubuntu from desktop... tell us if you can proceed.

Be careful with Fedora its installer is bit tricky and you might end up wiping out Windows.

By the way, your screenshot does not show SSD? See if you can find it in Gparted.

I don't have a problem with getting rid of windows if i have to. I couldn't even get fedora to boot though, I couldn't get ubuntu to boot until i used its boot from cd help tool. how much memory should i shrink? can i "unshrink" the memory if this doesnt work?

Brendan_Doyle
January 25th, 2014, 07:18 AM
I shrunk 27000MB. Now if this doesn't work how am I supposed to reallocate this unallocated data? it doesn't appear as if I can.

slooksterpsv
January 25th, 2014, 08:01 AM
When you go into disk management, if you delete the 27000MB volume where it says Unallocated 27000MB (27GB approx), you can right-click on the partition you took the space from and choose Extend volume... and take up the rest of that space. You're not the only one having install issues. I am but due to the Radeon HD 8400.

Brendan_Doyle
January 25th, 2014, 08:18 AM
Run 'chkdsk' on your HDD from windows: how to (http://www.eightforums.com/tutorials/6221-chkdsk-check-drive-errors-windows-8-a.html)
Then Shrink one of your Windows Partition to make space for Ubuntu: how to (http://www.sevenforums.com/tutorials/2672-partition-volume-shrink.html)
Leave the newly created space as 'unallocated'.
Run 'chkdsk' again. And reboot your Windows a couple of times.

Boot Ubuntu in "Try Ubuntu' mode. Open Gparted, Select 'unallocated/empty space' and make an EXTENDED Partition. After you have created an extended partition you will still see equal amount of 'unallocated space', its normal. Its where subsequent Logical partitions will be created.
Install Ubuntu from desktop... tell us if you can proceed.

Be careful with Fedora its installer is bit tricky and you might end up wiping out Windows.

By the way, your screenshot does not show SSD? See if you can find it in Gparted.

I did what you said and it's still not working. It wont even let me choose /dev/sdb as a device for bootloader. If I hit change or + the window install closes. If I hit - it says what it's been saying the whole time no root file.

Brendan_Doyle
January 25th, 2014, 08:29 AM
I do not see this when trying to install.





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fantab
January 25th, 2014, 08:43 AM
That is because Ubuntu installer is not seeing your Windows. Usually this means either Hibernating Windows or there not being any space for Ubuntu to install.

Can you see the last option "Something Else"?

I am running out of ideas. Go through the 'oldfred's' post again.

Also try to find out where that SSD is... check with Gparted. (I suspect the issue is with SSD and cacheing.)
http://www.thewindowsclub.com/enable-disable-disk-write-caching-windows-7-8

slooksterpsv
January 25th, 2014, 08:59 AM
Don't SHUTDOWN your Windows computer as this makes the hibernation file. Instead you have to RESTART in order for it to not create a hibernation file. You can disable SHUTDOWN from creating it, but yeah they made hibernation the default for "speed".

Brendan_Doyle
January 25th, 2014, 09:22 AM
Restart didn't change anything over just shutting down and booting. It's safe to say this isn't because Windows is hibernating. Did you guys not see the 20gb recovery partition? That's my ssd, and it holds recovery files.

Heres some screenshots of the farthest I can get in install and everything I see.

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Brendan_Doyle
January 25th, 2014, 09:29 AM
Should I try ubuntu 12.04 LTS?

fantab
January 25th, 2014, 01:59 PM
sudo fdisk -l

Disk /dev/sda: 32.0 GB, 32017047552 bytes
255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 3892 cylinders, total 62533296 sectors
Units = sectors of 1 * 512 = 512 bytes
Sector size (logical/physical): 512 bytes / 512 bytes
I/O size (minimum/optimal): 512 bytes / 512 bytes
Disk identifier: 0xe6000000

Disk /dev/sda doesn't contain a valid partition table

Disk /dev/sdb: 500.1 GB, 500107862016 bytes
255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 60801 cylinders, total 976773168 sectors
Units = sectors of 1 * 512 = 512 bytes
Sector size (logical/physical): 512 bytes / 4096 bytes
I/O size (minimum/optimal): 4096 bytes / 4096 bytes
Disk identifier: 0x99e03f5a

Device Boot Start End Blocks Id System
/dev/sdb1 * 2048 409599 203776 7 HPFS/NTFS/exFAT
/dev/sdb2 409600 933101567 466345984 7 HPFS/NTFS/exFAT
/dev/sdb3 933101568 968433663 17666048 7 HPFS/NTFS/exFAT
ubuntu@ubuntu:~$ sudo parted /dev/sda print all
Error: /dev/sda: unrecognised disk label


sudo parted -l
Error: /dev/sda: unrecognised disk label

Model: ATA ST9500423AS (scsi)
Disk /dev/sdb: 500GB
Sector size (logical/physical): 512B/4096B
Partition Table: msdos

Number Start End Size Type File system Flags
1 1049kB 210MB 209MB primary ntfs boot
2 210MB 478GB 478GB primary ntfs
3 478GB 496GB 18.1GB primary ntfs


Warning: Unable to open /dev/sr0 read-write (Read-only file system). /dev/sr0
has been opened read-only.
Error: Can't have a partition outside the disk!

Look, you have a Hybrid Hard Disk or SSHD, which combines both HDD and SSD.
The SSD part is most likely being used as a cacheing device. This process takes place with either IntelSRT or any other specific software, usually HDD/SSD OEM.
Your Windows is using it. So it uses either IntelSRT or some ohter software. Find out what it is? Look in HpTools or installed programs in Windows.

AFAIK this 'cacheing' is done by some implementation of RAID. Unless this is disabled it will be difficult to install Ubuntu.
You can try disabling RAID with:

sudo dmraid -E -r /dev/sda
sudo dmraid -E -r /dev/sdb

...run from the Live Ubuntu. Not really sure that it will work. Give it a try.

Brendan_Doyle
January 25th, 2014, 04:50 PM
sudo fdisk -l

Disk /dev/sda: 32.0 GB, 32017047552 bytes
255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 3892 cylinders, total 62533296 sectors
Units = sectors of 1 * 512 = 512 bytes
Sector size (logical/physical): 512 bytes / 512 bytes
I/O size (minimum/optimal): 512 bytes / 512 bytes
Disk identifier: 0xe6000000

Disk /dev/sda doesn't contain a valid partition table

Disk /dev/sdb: 500.1 GB, 500107862016 bytes
255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 60801 cylinders, total 976773168 sectors
Units = sectors of 1 * 512 = 512 bytes
Sector size (logical/physical): 512 bytes / 4096 bytes
I/O size (minimum/optimal): 4096 bytes / 4096 bytes
Disk identifier: 0x99e03f5a

Device Boot Start End Blocks Id System
/dev/sdb1 * 2048 409599 203776 7 HPFS/NTFS/exFAT
/dev/sdb2 409600 933101567 466345984 7 HPFS/NTFS/exFAT
/dev/sdb3 933101568 968433663 17666048 7 HPFS/NTFS/exFAT
ubuntu@ubuntu:~$ sudo parted /dev/sda print all
Error: /dev/sda: unrecognised disk label


sudo parted -l
Error: /dev/sda: unrecognised disk label

Model: ATA ST9500423AS (scsi)
Disk /dev/sdb: 500GB
Sector size (logical/physical): 512B/4096B
Partition Table: msdos

Number Start End Size Type File system Flags
1 1049kB 210MB 209MB primary ntfs boot
2 210MB 478GB 478GB primary ntfs
3 478GB 496GB 18.1GB primary ntfs


Warning: Unable to open /dev/sr0 read-write (Read-only file system). /dev/sr0
has been opened read-only.
Error: Can't have a partition outside the disk!

Look, you have a Hybrid Hard Disk or SSHD, which combines both HDD and SSD.
The SSD part is most likely being used as a cacheing device. This process takes place with either IntelSRT or any other specific software, usually HDD/SSD OEM.
Your Windows is using it. So it uses either IntelSRT or some ohter software. Find out what it is? Look in HpTools or installed programs in Windows.

AFAIK this 'cacheing' is done by some implementation of RAID. Unless this is disabled it will be difficult to install Ubuntu.
You can try disabling RAID with:

sudo dmraid -E -r /dev/sda
sudo dmraid -E -r /dev/sdb

...run from the Live Ubuntu. Not really sure that it will work. Give it a try.

Yes I told you guys quite a while ago I have a Hybrid Hard Drive. SSHD. And remember, I deleted HP_TOOLS to get rid of a partition. I'll try your code.

EDIT: Been reading reviews on amazon. This computer has IntelSRT, and there is some way to shut it off, just not sure how.

EDIT 2: Found it. Disabling.

Brendan_Doyle
January 25th, 2014, 05:07 PM
249732Okay I am making some awesome progress. I now have an entire SSD of almost 30GB of unallocated space. The caching has been disabled, lets try this out.

Brendan_Doyle
January 25th, 2014, 05:17 PM
Yaaaaaaaayyyyyyyyuuuuuhhhhhhhhh!!! Success!

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Brendan_Doyle
January 25th, 2014, 05:23 PM
Sticky for anyone who has IntelSRT? Because it's a pain, lol.

fantab
January 25th, 2014, 05:44 PM
Phew....
Congrats.

Where did Ubuntu install on SSD or HDD?

Brendan_Doyle
January 25th, 2014, 05:45 PM
Phew....
Congrats.

Where did Ubuntu install on SSD or HDD?

Don't know yet, backing up photos I want to keep from windows to photobucket. It will be awesome if it installs to the SSD though. Onto the next thing, I am quite fond of my Lightroom and photoshop. I am wondering is WINE a good route to go so that I can use those programs still?

fantab
January 25th, 2014, 05:51 PM
Check by running the following commands:

sudo parted -l
sudo fdisk -l

Since you are dual-booting I'd suggest you keep away from WINE as much as possible and use Windows for such tasks.

Do share how did you disabled intelSRT, someone could find it useful.

Brendan_Doyle
January 25th, 2014, 06:04 PM
If you have a computer with IntelSRT, you should have a program called Intel Rapid Storage Technology, you go there, then go to the accelerate tab and disable as needed.

Here are some screens, I recached the drive so I could show you guys the process, it's fairly simple. After you do this though go to disk management on windows and make sure you set the disk up. It will bring up a window asking you as soon as you go to disk management.