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LinuxAlexs
November 20th, 2013, 08:41 PM
Hello

I'm trying to install Ubuntu Studio 13.10 64 bit version on a PC that already has multiple Windows installations.
To make life easier (and I tried it before without creating partitions though windows in case anybody asks) I created the swap file and root partition with Acronis Disk Director for Windows.

I placed in the setup CD, booted off it and here is what I see in terms of partitions, notice the duplication of the volumes.

http://i42.tinypic.com/jjr29v.jpg

So please notice I am using a Dell XPS 8100 and what you are seeing here is mirrored drives. I suspect my machine is probably using FakeRaid.

Afterwards I tried again this time using the nodmraid option and this time the hard disks were not detected at all (empty screen).

I appreciate there is documentation out there on the net, however it appears to be a minefield (too much documentation!) and it is difficult to know where to look, and the documentation I looked at didn't work or confused me.
The documentation is often also assuming I know how to drop out and drop into the command shell at will (which I don't).

Could anybody give me a hand please?

Thankyou!

Alex

LinuxAlexs
November 21st, 2013, 06:14 PM
Anybody?

Many thanks...

LinuxAlexs
November 22nd, 2013, 12:20 PM
Er a little help please would be very much appreciated....

http://www.fullgifs.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/08/Animated-cartoons-classic-help-tied-gif.gif

(Dancing baby next).

Thanks :).

LinuxAlexs
November 23rd, 2013, 02:13 PM
Well I politely posted the same question in 2009 and got no reply then either...
I guess nobody is going to reply to this looking at the track record (was I being perceived as rude or something?)....

So here are some tap dancers for your enjoyment...

http://stream1.gifsoup.com/view6/2198270/fred-astaire-tap-dancing-o.gif

Thankyou Ubuntu forums!

(Dancing baby postponed, but coming soon...)

LinuxAlexs
November 23rd, 2013, 06:03 PM
As promised here is not one but two dancing babies...

Each one to represent the confusion I have after trawling through the fakeraid FAQ...

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-Kb2T-OnCw5s/UIFC8Esc1JI/AAAAAAAABfo/m6BqJ-OYtaI/s1600/dancing_baby_b1.gif

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-Kb2T-OnCw5s/UIFC8Esc1JI/AAAAAAAABfo/m6BqJ-OYtaI/s1600/dancing_baby_b1.gif

LinuxAlexs
November 23rd, 2013, 06:04 PM
[dupe'd]

ameyvprabhu
November 23rd, 2013, 08:53 PM
I have the same problem, now started on reading things to fix it myself.
2 x 1 TB HDDs - A RAID 0 array and a RAID 1 array

LinuxAlexs
November 23rd, 2013, 11:26 PM
Yeah I think there's some hating of FakeRaid going in or something...

Anyway I took the plonge - was extremely risky. I installed on the first partition listed of dupe listing. Note the partition must be marked something like /dev/mapper and have the word ARRAY contained in it.

The risk paid off and everything works. It's interesting if you run Ubuntu of the CD (without hard drive) grub detects the partitions just fine (which lead me to take the risk thinking the install routine cannot cope).
Conclusion - There's clearly an issue with the install software.... Select the first partition of the two and everything should sort itself out. I did nothing else special. And backup in case I'm wrong (yes it was russian roulette and no doubt it wil be the same for the next user).

Good luck ! :)

p.s.

It took me 4 years to install Ubuntu is this a record?

oldfred
November 26th, 2013, 07:39 PM
RAID (and LVM) have not been supported in the desktop installer. Thru 12.04 you had to use the server install or for desktops they had a alternative installer that had the extra RAID drivers.
After 12.04 they have done away with the alternative installer and will add the drivers and install capability into the desktop installer. But they did not make it into 12.10, nor 13.04. I believe 13.10 has LVM and LVM with encryption.

Not many use RAID on desktops, many server installs are.

http://www.smallnetbuilder.com/nas/nas-features/31745-data-recovery-tales-raid-is-not-backup
parted (3.0) completely removes filesystem creation and modification support, except for filesystem probing to determine what's in a partition.
https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FakeRaidHowto

https://wiki.ubuntu.com/QuantalQuetzal/ReleaseNotes/UbuntuDesktop

The consolidation of desktop installation media into a single image means that some installation options that were previously available on the alternate CD have no direct replacement on the desktop image.



Users who were installing using the alternate CD to install with LVM or full-disk encryption can now use the desktop image for this.
To install LTSP, please install using the Ubuntu Server 12.10 image, then add ltsp after installation. You can also continue to install with Ubuntu 12.04 LTS media and upgrade to 12.10 from there.
There are several options for installing using software RAID. You can:

install using the mini.iso (https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/MinimalCD), distributed from the 'debian-installer' directory on the mirrors;

install using the desktop CD and migrate the disks to RAID post-install;
install with the Ubuntu 12.04 LTS alternate CD (http://releases.ubuntu.com/12.04/) and upgrade.