R9-290X for $550US... Metro Last Light I'm ready!

[DanglingPointer]

Now that the genie is out of the bottle with the R9-290X @ $550US which is slightly FASTER than a Titan at virtually HALF the price (!!WOW!!),... ...pause for a moment to contemplate that!... ...I'm soooo ready to get Metro Last Light when it comes out for Linux!

Nvidia will be dropping prices within 2wks I'd say unless they're complete imbeciles!

In the end, us gamers get to choose which one to pick and play at a much more affordable price with the the latest AAA titles merely a few weeks to a couple of months away for Metro LL; and perhaps a few to several months away for the rest of the AAA's which will come inevitably with SteamOS!

In the end of it all... It will be an awesome gaming year for Linux next year and it is JUST THE BEGINNING!

[dannyboy79]

totally agree, 2014 will the year linux gaming explodes! as far as spending that much on a video card, i would never but to each his own I guess. i currently run an ancient computer with only a 1.8Ghz C2D (E4300) with 2GB DDR RAM and an Nvidia 8400GS with Xubuntu 12.04.3. If I had funds I'd go with a cheap haswell chipset, new MB, new RAM, new PSU, and most likely a 650ti. Newegg has a sale for around $100 for one

[DanglingPointer]

Just waiting now to see how Nvidia responds to this. If the prices drop more than AMD then I would be buying which ever has the better value.

I've been watching the rivalry for the last 3 months and have withheld from purchasing a new card knowing the Hawaii cards were coming out in October and were rumoured months ago to be bettr than the Titan. I must say it's been a bit of Poker game!
AMD is clearly winning the poker match now with Nvidia stuffin up thinking that the 290X was gonna be just marginally better than the 780! AMD kept their 290X cards to their chest until Nvidia's press conference with John Carmack and other bigshots in Montreal last week so they could see what Nvidia was announcing. By the looks of it, Nvidia gambled on the 290x being marginally better than the 780 so they announced the 780 Ti which sits halfway between the 780 and Titan. But now that the 290X's out and reviewed all around the world, it clearly shows that it is every bit just as good as the Titan if not up to several percentage points faster. So now AMD has realeased a card that is faster then all 3 enthusiast cards that Nvidia has to offer. LoL

Nvidia won't be sitting on their hands, they'll likely release a fully enabled Tesla Kepler card for consumer graphics like they do for professional graphics. But that could take up to two months, in the mean time AMD is sitting pretty.
Maxwell cards won't be out for several months yet to perhaps halfway through next year so AMD will be basking in the limelight for now.

The never ending soap opera between AMD(ATI) and Nvidia! lol

[dannyboy79]

this may all be well and good BUT what is the difference in driver support within the platform we all love near and dear to our hearts? i don't have the luxory of spending $500 on a GPU so I am in the dark ages but last I checked driver support for Nvidia cards was better (less issues etc etc) than AMD's support.

Are there any reviews out there yet on these high end cards within linux showing linux driver support? I'll be looking for Phoronix to be reviewing these soon

[snafu006]

Go with nVidia I been a die hard ati and amd fan for years and i would say buy nVidia. Ati has CRAP drivers and they drop support to fast. MY new build is going to have a nVidia 660 superclocked on newegg for 174.00 thats with the 50 $ off. But ya stay the hell away from ATI video cards. But the cpu are always good and well priced.




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[ThoseTimesAreGone]

Now that the genie is out of the bottle with the R9-290X @ $550US which is slightly FASTER than a Titan at virtually HALF the price (!!WOW!!),... ...pause for a moment to contemplate that!... ...I'm soooo ready to get Metro Last Light when it comes out for Linux!

Nvidia will be dropping prices within 2wks I'd say unless they're complete imbeciles!

In the end, us gamers get to choose which one to pick and play at a much more affordable price with the the latest AAA titles merely a few weeks to a couple of months away for Metro LL; and perhaps a few to several months away for the rest of the AAA's which will come inevitably with SteamOS!

In the end of it all... It will be an awesome gaming year for Linux next year and it is JUST THE BEGINNING!

Correction of what is going to happen:

You will buy AMD R9, and realize that their drivers are garbage and dont work in linux or are totally borked. You will then either have to switch back to windows or buy a new card.

I woulnd't give a single cent to a manufacturer that has ignored my platform for years. AMD can kiss my blank.

If you really want to win, you can wait till nvidia releases its own cards in Q1 2014, and then either pick up older nvidia at cheap price or the new ones. Either way if you buy AMD good luck to you (because you will need it) and lord be with you (because nothing else will save you).

[R33D3M33R]

Now that the genie is out of the bottle with the R9-290X @ $550US which is slightly FASTER than a Titan at virtually HALF the price (!!WOW!!),... ...pause for a moment to contemplate that!... ...I'm soooo ready to get Metro Last Light when it comes out for Linux!

Nvidia will be dropping prices within 2wks I'd say unless they're complete imbeciles!

In the end, us gamers get to choose which one to pick and play at a much more affordable price with the the latest AAA titles merely a few weeks to a couple of months away for Metro LL; and perhaps a few to several months away for the rest of the AAA's which will come inevitably with SteamOS!

In the end of it all... It will be an awesome gaming year for Linux next year and it is JUST THE BEGINNING!

Price/performance and performance/watt are horrible on top end cards of both AMD and nVidia. You should never buy the high end graphics cards, because you will overpay them. I would wait for R9 290 if I would want the fastest card, or hope the 780 GTX price drops a lot.

And to all of you which say that the AMD drivers are total crap, what are you even talking about? If you don't like the closed source driver, you can always use the open driver (with reasonable release delay), which is improving more and more. On nVidias side, if you don't like the binary driver, well ... just throw the card in the trash, because noveau driver is way too slow and buggy. Also, the famous excellent legacy support of nVidia is a myth, look at this thread (http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2141611), a horror! And another one (http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1420731).

Also, keep in mind what Mantle will bring for GCN architecture: an low level, platform independent API, which could be open-source (http://www.tomshardware.com/news/amd-mantle-api-gcn-battlefield-4,24418.html). How can you even say that AMD is ignoring Linux? They are open-sourcing everything, nVidia on the other hand is doing almost nothing in this direction. I might consider buying nVidia again when they fully open everything they got, but until then, I'm happy with my HD7750.

[DanglingPointer]

Correction of what is going to happen:

You will buy AMD R9, and realize that their drivers are garbage and dont work in linux or are totally borked. You will then either have to switch back to windows or buy a new card.

I woulnd't give a single cent to a manufacturer that has ignored my platform for years. AMD can kiss my blank.

If you really want to win, you can wait till nvidia releases its own cards in Q1 2014, and then either pick up older nvidia at cheap price or the new ones. Either way if you buy AMD good luck to you (because you will need it) and lord be with you (because nothing else will save you).

Mate u presume too much!

Haven't bought a card yet I'm waiting a couple of weeks to see what Nvidia will do. Read above! Either way, I'm playing Metro on a new card whether it is with the red camp or the green camp! I'm more excited about Titan capable processing at half the price! And Titans and all Kepler chip consumer-cards WILL go down, it is ludicrous and suicide not to.

As for drivers, u're too near sighted mate and not looking at the bigger picture. SteamOS is several months away with MILLIONS of customers, fanboys; AND AAA game developers pitching in for Linux (Bohemia Interactive, 4a Games, Creative Assembly to name a few). AMD won't neglect this! On top of that, AMD is the only one of the two with PAID developers working to improve the AMD Open Source Drivers (http://slashdot.org/story/13/06/26/1746224/amd-overhauls-open-source-linux-driver).
Also contemplate this!, they'll be providing Mantle eventually to Linux based games which is very similar to the low level extensions used by DirectX for the XBone and the ES portion of the PS4 (custom OpenGL ES).
You're only thinking of history mate, doesn't work that way. The IT industry ever evolves with many left-field revolutionaries which totally changes the industry as a whole. 90% of all games will be developed for Consoles which AMD has monopolised for Nintendo, XBone, and PS4. They're not gonna leave SteamOS to the Green camp without a fight knowing they (Steam) have MILLIONS of fanboys.

[ThoseTimesAreGone]

Mate u presume too much!

Haven't bought a card yet I'm waiting a couple of weeks to see what Nvidia will do. Read above! Either way, I'm playing Metro on a new card whether it is with the red camp or the green camp! I'm more excited about Titan capable processing at half the price! And Titans and all Kepler chip consumer-cards WILL go down, it is ludicrous and suicide not to.

As for drivers, u're too near sighted mate and not looking at the bigger picture. SteamOS is several months away with MILLIONS of customers, fanboys; AND AAA game developers pitching in for Linux (Bohemia Interactive, 4a Games, Creative Assembly to name a few). AMD won't neglect this! On top of that, AMD is the only one of the two with PAID developers working to improve the AMD Open Source Drivers (http://slashdot.org/story/13/06/26/1746224/amd-overhauls-open-source-linux-driver).
Also contemplate this!, they'll be providing Mantle eventually to Linux based games which is very similar to the low level extensions used by DirectX for the XBone and the ES portion of the PS4 (custom OpenGL ES).
You're only thinking of history mate, doesn't work that way. The IT industry ever evolves with many left-field revolutionaries which totally changes the industry as a whole. 90% of all games will be developed for Consoles which AMD has monopolised for Nintendo, XBone, and PS4. They're not gonna leave SteamOS to the Green camp without a fight knowing they (Steam) have MILLIONS of fanboys.

Its not my money do what you want. I could care less. You can argue anything you want, it doesnt change the quality of AMD drivers as they currently stand.

And if you want to put half a thousand dollars into an AMD card and then HOPE that AMD gets its **** together with the drivers thats your call. I would not buy anything that does not have proven performance on my platform.

[R33D3M33R]

Nobody is saying that the AMD drivers are perfect, but at least you can go to the constantly improving open source driver if something doesn't work. With nVidia, you have to stick to the binary blob which is also not perfect. Buy whatever card you want, but stop spreading FUD if you didn't use any of the AMD cards/drivers recently.

[DanglingPointer]

Nobody is saying that the AMD drivers are perfect, but at least you can go to the constantly improving open source driver if something doesn't work. With nVidia, you have to stick to the binary blob which is also not perfect. Buy whatever card you want, but stop spreading FUD if you didn't use any of the AMD cards/drivers recently.

I totally agree!

I've got a 5870 right now and it works ok with the post-release-updates non-beta FGLRX drivers and plays all the source engine games at max settings on 1080p. So far the games which have struggled with it are the newer engine ones like both Wargames (European Escalation and Airland Battle).

Running the Phoronix Unigine suite it only struggles with Heaven (5870 is bad with heavy tessalation) but runs decently for all the others (Sanctuary, Tropics, and Valley).

And that is with an old 2009 AMD Cypress chip, it is the fastest cypress chip there is. I'm just looking at doing the same thing with either Nvidia or AMD; that is to get the fastest gpu chip and use it for 4-5yrs like I've done with the 5870.

Non of the above is on windows mate, they're all on Ubuntu.

AMD propriety drivers aren't as bad as they used to be, I agree though they're not as good and up to date as the Nvidia drivers; but the paradigm shift to Linux open source drivers is happening as we speak for AMD; wherein they are paying developers to update the open source ones to eventually get up to OpenGL 4.x standard. If I'm not mistaken they are trying to get OpenGL 3.x ironed out right now. When that passes beta/alpha and if I still have the 5870 then I would have no need of FGLRX as the 5870 can only handle up to OpenGL 3.2.

But like I said, the biggest determining factor for me is price and within a couple of weeks Nvidia will make a move and I'll be watching. My goal is to have the fastest single gpu card to last me as long as the 5870 has.

[sabhansali]

Do we have a release date yet for Metro Last Light on Linux?

[DanglingPointer]

Do we have a release date yet for Metro Last Light on Linux?

Not that I'm aware of. I'll post in this thread once it is out assuming I find out before everyone (which is unlikely).

I'm hoping next month though in time for Nvidia's and AMD's releases (290 non-x, 780 Ti and possible new Titan).
In the end we win as gpu prices have already started to drop across the board.

Also looking forward to Rome II Total War but that won't be out on Linux for a few months.

[DanglingPointer]

Metro Last Light is OUT!

You can get the discounted one which includes Metro 2033 and some DLC.
The Metro 2033 is for Windows though, so hopefully this is a sign that they will be porting that too!

Well looks like I'm going to have to buy a new graphics card this week! :lolflag:

Hmmm, I think I'm going to go for the discounted GTX 780 Classified...
Or I could get a R9-290X and watercool it.... arghh!
Or I could wait for the custom cooled R9-290X boards to come out by the end of this month... ?
grrrr
Hmmm, the R9-290 is out in two days... ?

Geez why don't they just release all the damn cards already so people can review them and I can make a purchase!

[R33D3M33R]

R9 290 is extremely powerful (http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/AMD/R9_290/) and at 400$ it just humiliates the insanely priced Titan and it's also a lot cheaper than comparable GTX 780 (100$). I would wait for a custom cooled R9 290 or wait for 770 Ti to be released which could be comparably priced.

[DanglingPointer]

R9 290 is extremely powerful (http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/AMD/R9_290/) and at 400$ it just humiliates the insanely priced Titan and it's also a lot cheaper than comparable GTX 780 (100$). I would wait for a custom cooled R9 290 or wait for 770 Ti to be released which could be comparably priced.

Having spent numerous hours on the game! It is awesome, great, deep, refreshing for being set in Moscow and not the US or some other cliché place,.... and all other superlative praises!

But one thing to emphasize about this game even in linux where it only goes to OpenGL 3.2 (scaled down eye-candy compared to Windows); it eats old AMD cards for breakfast and is still hungry!
After the Bolshoi level, I had to dial down my video-fidelity slider to the lowest and I don't think it is worth playing at that level!

On Steam, 4A advised that they are working with AMD to optimise performance in the next Catalyst release but didn't mention if it will be in the next Beta (which I'm hoping!)

I haven't bought a card yet as I'm waiting on two more factors to play out; namely:
1) Custom Cooled R9 290(X) cards and their reviews; in order to compare them against the Green camp's contenders; and obviously the prices
2) A demonstration of Mantle in this week's AMD Developer Summit. I believe Mantle will be revealed on the 13th. And what will Mantle mean for Linux? Steam has 65 MILLION customers with a sizeable chunk curious about SteamOS and Steam Machines.

I have decided, in the spirit of not ruining the game (ruining it by playing it in the lowest quality which is not what the game-developers would have intended to unleash their creativity); I will stop playing this game and replay again after I've decided on a new gpu card. The game plays a good unique immersive story; and the graphical fidelity needs to do justice to that game which sadly my 5870 with the current drivers can't provide.

So as it stands I continue to wait ever impatiently for the two items above to play out...

[MikeCyber]

Works beautifully with my Asus GTX 770 but would be interesting to hear if AMD has finally managed to create good drivers:
http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=MTUxMDE

[DanglingPointer]

I finally fixed it! YaY!
http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2187450&p=12845728#post12845728

[DanglingPointer]

Well after deliberating long enough I only had two options after deciding I wanted to play safe and get a Mantle capable card...
1) Buy the R9-290X.
2) Wait till custom cooled R9-290X's comes out early next year.

Well I got annoyed today once again playing Metro LL with the 5870 so I drove to the local computer shop and got myself a Sapphire R9-290X! :-D

I just finished throwing it on and making sure it is running on Uber mode. I ran a quick bench of Unigine Valley and Heaven (via Phoronix) and it was smooth as silk!!! :-\" I've never seen those smooth, only choppy on the 5870!

Well, looks like I won't be getting any sleep tonight as I'll be playing Metro LL!
But I'll ran a Unigine suite benchmark from Phoronix once I hit the sack and get the official results published.

I can't wait till next year with the avalanche of AAA Linux games from Steam and hopefully Mantle capable games as well at the latter half of 2014!

[sffvba[e0rt]

Well I got annoyed today once again playing Metro LL with the 5870 so I drove to the local computer shop and got myself a Sapphire R9-290X! :-D

Awesome and congrats, looks like a very good card for a good price.

[MikeCyber]

So AMD finally managed to create good drivers? Could you run also the X-Plane demo and report back?
I don't care about Mantle but cross fingers that steamos is not going to fail...

[DanglingPointer]

So AMD finally managed to create good drivers? Could you run also the X-Plane demo and report back?
I don't care about Mantle but cross fingers that steamos is not going to fail...

I wouldn't say they are good drivers. In fact I believe they are bad drivers. Catalyst 3.11 b6 for Linux is the first ever to support the R9-290(x).
That said due to the sheer gpu power of the card I can play Metro LL on max slider settings averaging 40-65 frames. On the surface levels with a storm happening it drops to between 30 and 50.

I can also now max out the settings on the following games which I have never been able to do. I used to play them on just-below-medium settings with the HD 5870.

Wargame European Escalation
Wargame Airland Battle
Serious Sam BFE (added 18/11/2013 02:40)


BENCHMARKS:
Unigine Valley and Heaven 1080p with maxed settings and 4x AA I got these results:
http://openbenchmarking.org/result/1311161-SO-VAULTUNIG63 - Valley
http://openbenchmarking.org/result/1311161-SO-VAULTUNIG23 - Heaven
http://openbenchmarking.org/result/1311178-SO-VAULTUNIG77 - Sanctuary (added 18/11/2013 02:40)

NO AA: I couldn't gett AA to work on this test. Not even on 2x, it would just crash.
http://openbenchmarking.org/result/1311178-SO-VAULTUNIG70 - Tropics (added 18/11/2013 02:40)


I've never seen them smooth before, it is a welcome relief to the eye to watch those benchmarks smooth.

I suppose with the next iterations of Catalyst, it will just get better. I'm also looking forward to EA and Dice hopefully releasing their AAA games next year for Linux.

I'm busy playing Metro LL at the moment but will run Unigine Sanctuary and Tropics later and publish them.

[MikeCyber]

http://forums.x-plane.org/index.php?showtopic=64881

What I meant is if those are finally fixed?

[DanglingPointer]

http://forums.x-plane.org/index.php?showtopic=64881

What I meant is if those are finally fixed?

Interesting, just checked out the website; never heard of this sim before. Currently downloading and will try it out and report back...

UPDATE:
The demo is still downloading.
In the meantime I ran Unigine Tropics and Sanctuary and have posted the result-links into my previous post above.

[cRaZyBisCuiT]

Actually I would like to see a benchmark with a "slower" like the 670 ti nVidia card. I am pretty sure since the nVidia driver is much better the performance would be the same. ;)

[DanglingPointer]

I checked this morning and the X-plane demo finished downloading. I'll give it a run tonight.

XPLANE UPDATE: I tried getting it to work for a solid hour and have given up. I believe Phoronix has an X-Plane benchmark, I might use that one instead.

However last night when I hit sack, I kicked off the automated Unigine Test Suite which includes Heaven, Sanctuary, and Tropics (not including Valley). However this time I tweaked Catalyst to enhance Anti Aliasing (not override), I set the slider to SSAA, and I turned on Catalyst AI for engine and game optimisations; and it produced significant improvements to Heaven!!! :)

I published it this morning:
http://openbenchmarking.org/result/1311179-SO-VAULTUNIG83 - with Catalyst tweak (look at Heaven results). 8 FPS faster!
http://openbenchmarking.org/result/1311161-SO-VAULTUNIG23 - previous result with Catalyst on default

From what I understand, Heaven uses the most amount of tessellation out of all the Unigine tests, even more than Valley. Perhaps turning on Catalyst AI helped at that.

Therefore if there are to be any improvements to Metro LL on the next Catalyst Linux release, I would suspect that the benefits will only come if AI is turned on.

However, time permitting I'll run all Unigine tests again tonight with AI just to ensure it wasn't a once off anomaly.

UPDATE:
Did some research on the net and most seem to say to only use A.I. advanced if FPS are poor as it will sacrifice something to maintain performance.
http://www.anandtech.com/show/1488 about A.I.
http://forums.guru3d.com/showthread.php?t=382781 some forum viewpoints on the tech.

[MikeCyber]

XPLANE UPDATE: I tried getting it to work for a solid hour and have given up.


Doouh seems I was lucky to buy a Asus GTX770 then! You cannot even run it with low settings?- I've X-Plane nearly maxed out and it runs beautifully...

[DanglingPointer]

Doouh seems I was lucky to buy a Asus GTX770 then! You cannot even run it with low settings?- I've X-Plane nearly maxed out and it runs beautifully...

Nah more like it didn't install correctly and possibly missing packages. I can't get the program to start.

[MikeCyber]

Hmm simply drop to home and you're done. Try ldd which shows missing dependencies:

michael@michael-Ubuntu:~/X-Plane_10$ ldd X*64
linux-vdso.so.1 => (0x00007fffad3fe000)
libGL.so.1 => /usr/lib/nvidia-319-updates/libGL.so.1 (0x00007fdca8004000)
libGLU.so.1 => /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libGLU.so.1 (0x00007fdca7d96000)
libXext.so.6 => /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libXext.so.6 (0x00007fdca7b84000)
libX11.so.6 => /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libX11.so.6 (0x00007fdca784f000)
libXrandr.so.2 => /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libXrandr.so.2 (0x00007fdca7647000)
libpthread.so.0 => /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libpthread.so.0 (0x00007fdca7429000)
librt.so.1 => /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/librt.so.1 (0x00007fdca7221000)
libstdc++.so.6 => /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libstdc++.so.6 (0x00007fdca6f1d000)
libm.so.6 => /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libm.so.6 (0x00007fdca6c20000)
libc.so.6 => /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libc.so.6 (0x00007fdca6860000)
libdl.so.2 => /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libdl.so.2 (0x00007fdca665c000)
libnvidia-tls.so.319.32 => /usr/lib/nvidia-319-updates/tls/libnvidia-tls.so.319.32 (0x00007fdca6458000)
libnvidia-glcore.so.319.32 => /usr/lib/nvidia-319-updates/libnvidia-glcore.so.319.32 (0x00007fdca3f01000)
libgcc_s.so.1 => /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libgcc_s.so.1 (0x00007fdca3ceb000)
libxcb.so.1 => /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libxcb.so.1 (0x00007fdca3acc000)
libXrender.so.1 => /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libXrender.so.1 (0x00007fdca38c2000)
/lib64/ld-linux-x86-64.so.2 (0x00007fdca8352000)
libXau.so.6 => /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libXau.so.6 (0x00007fdca36be000)
libXdmcp.so.6 => /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libXdmcp.so.6 (0x00007fdca34b8000)

to start I simply do:
michael@michael-Ubuntu:~/X-Plane_10$ ./X*64

What's exactly your problem? Could you paste the Log.txt here.

[sffvba[e0rt]

Please start a new thread to get support with X-Plane. This thread was never about support thus moved to the Cafe.

[DanglingPointer]

MikeCyber I'll post it on a new thread...

[DanglingPointer]

Well just finished Metro LL! Awesome game! Interesting story and from a different non-cliché perspective coming from a Russian's point of view, culture and heritage. A refreshing change from the multitude of similar games out there!

Looking forward to whatever 4A comes out with next! Hopefully they also back-port Metro 2033!

[DanglingPointer]

Doouh seems I was lucky to buy a Asus GTX770 then! You cannot even run it with low settings?- I've X-Plane nearly maxed out and it runs beautifully...

The sorry state of Catalyst FGLRX. It should get better next year no doubt (me crossing fingers!). In the review underneath, the current Linux driver can't beat a GTX680 (which is also a 770 without the steroids).
http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=article&item=amd_r9_290&num=12

[max-rumpf1998]

Price/performance and performance/watt are horrible on top end cards of both AMD and nVidia. You should never buy the high end graphics cards, because you will overpay them. I would wait for R9 290 if I would want the fastest card, or hope the 780 GTX price drops a lot.

And to all of you which say that the AMD drivers are total crap, what are you even talking about? If you don't like the closed source driver, you can always use the open driver (with reasonable release delay), which is improving more and more. On nVidias side, if you don't like the binary driver, well ... just throw the card in the trash, because noveau driver is way too slow and buggy. Also, the famous excellent legacy support of nVidia is a myth, look at this thread (http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2141611), a horror! And another one (http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1420731).

Also, keep in mind what Mantle will bring for GCN architecture: an low level, platform independent API, which could be open-source (http://www.tomshardware.com/news/amd-mantle-api-gcn-battlefield-4,24418.html). How can you even say that AMD is ignoring Linux? They are open-sourcing everything, nVidia on the other hand is doing almost nothing in this direction. I might consider buying nVidia again when they fully open everything they got, but until then, I'm happy with my HD7750.

Hi,
do you have already tried Metro with your HD 7750 card?
I have the same and I would like to know if I could play it with it...