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arvevans
August 1st, 2013, 06:04 PM
Why are these 3 upgrades being held back and not upgraded?

arv@Workstation:~$ sudo apt-get upgrade
Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree
Reading state information... Done
The following packages have been kept back:
gir1.2-cogl-1.0 gir1.2-coglpango-1.0 libclutter-1.0-0
0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 3 not upgraded.
arv@Workstation:~$

This is a minor complaint relating to a lack of information, and not a fault of the system.

Recently completed a dist-upgrade to Ubuntu 13.04.
Running Gnome Classic on AMD 2X64-3800 with 4GB RAM & 1TB HD

Thanks,

Bashing-om
August 1st, 2013, 07:55 PM
arvevans; Hi !

Try this terminal command:


sudo apt-get dist-upgrade

See if the "smart" mode will resolve the conflict.
see:
https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AptGet/Howto
for complete disclosure.



just try'n to help

Frogs Hair
August 1st, 2013, 08:25 PM
Do you or have you used a Gnome Shell PPA ? I had problems with that group of packages while attempting to go back to Gnome 3.6 from 3.8.

arvevans
August 5th, 2013, 08:37 PM
Yes. I do use Gnome in classic or no-effects mode. It is required for efficient access to CAD and CNC programs that I use regularly.

Doing a "sudo apt-get dist-upgrade" is what seems to have brought on the problem of undocumented hold-backs.
Are there any particular reasons why a software package might be "held back and not upgraded". Surely someone
wrote the code to do this, and thus should know why it happens?

Frogs Hair
August 5th, 2013, 08:59 PM
Packages are usually held due to lack of a repository connection or conflicting dependencies I have never tried classic on Lubuntu so can you describe how the classic session was installed ?

bapoumba
August 5th, 2013, 09:31 PM
Which versions do you currently have installed ?

bapoumba@SonyBlue:~$ apt-cache show gir1.2-cogl-1.0
Package: gir1.2-cogl-1.0
Priority: optional
Section: libs
Installed-Size: 103
Maintainer: Rico Tzschichholz <ricotz@ubuntu.com>
Architecture: i386
Source: cogl
Version: 1.14.0-0ubuntu1


http://packages.ubuntu.com/raring/gir1.2-cogl-1.0

arvevans
August 8th, 2013, 01:21 AM
Standard apt-get install gnome. That all went fine and installed Gnome-3, which I use in the Gnome Classic mode because those big garish icons are of no use to me (I'm not that blind...yet).\

arvevans
August 8th, 2013, 01:23 AM
Which versions do you currently have installed ?

bapoumba@SonyBlue:~$ apt-cache show gir1.2-cogl-1.0
Package: gir1.2-cogl-1.0
Priority: optional
Section: libs
Installed-Size: 103
Maintainer: Rico Tzschichholz <ricotz@ubuntu.com>
Architecture: i386
Source: cogl
Version: 1.14.0-0ubuntu1


http://packages.ubuntu.com/raring/gir1.2-cogl-1.0

Installed versions are the standard ones that come with apt-get update followed by apt-get upgrade, so it is a pretty much vanilla setup.

arvevans
August 8th, 2013, 01:29 AM
Packages are usually held due to lack of a repository connection or conflicting dependencies I have never tried classic on Lubuntu so can you describe how the classic session was installed ?

Packages being held back by one thing or the other are fine, but I would like a bit more information to be provided when a package is held back. If I need to troubleshoot a problem with a package being held back...it would be nice to know the exact reason it was held back. That way I would know where to start working on fixing the problem. If the package is being held back because of a missing repository it should be easy to tell the user that fact. If the package is being held back because of conflicting dependencies that information should be provided so I can know where to start working fixing the problem.

There were no repository read failures, so that can guess can probably be excluded, unless it needs a repository that was not enabled.

Apt-get install -f does not indicate any problem, and there are no complaints about missing or conflicting dependencies.