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paulxx
May 25th, 2013, 01:28 PM
Hello everyone,

My system:Acer 5733,i3,6gb,600gb.
It came with windows7. I downloaded wubi-ubuntu12.04lts.

The problem: Using "Update Manager" i tried to upgrade from 12.04 to 12.10.
A box opened called "Distribution Upgrade" with a list of six tasks for it to do.
It did the first task "Preparing to upgrade"and gave it a green tick.
During the second task "Setting new software channels" it stopped and gave the following error:

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There is about 70gb of free space on the partition I use for Linux. I don't know what " Disk '/' " means.
I'm a beginner when it comes to understanding Linux so if if anyone has any suggestions I'd be grateful.

thanks
paul

ibjsb4
May 25th, 2013, 01:31 PM
Wubi has a 30 gig limit, also wubi is being phase out. Maybe its time for you to consider dual boot.

paulxx
May 25th, 2013, 01:31 PM
My {screenshot} hasn't worked.

How do I do this? I tried cut-and-paste.

paul

sudodus
May 25th, 2013, 01:35 PM
When you have come to the point of upgrading to a new version of Ubuntu, I suggest that you start with upgrading from wubi to dual boot, at least if you have less than four primary partitions.

See this link

https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MigrateWubi

To check your partitions, please mount all partitions you can mount, and post the output of the following commands


sudo fdisk -lu

df

ibjsb4
May 25th, 2013, 01:36 PM
Go to advance reply and click on the paperclip.

243010

sudodus
May 25th, 2013, 01:39 PM
My {screenshot} hasn't worked.

How do I do this? I tried cut-and-paste.

paul

Cut and paste is good. At the Edit pull-down menu of the terminal window, you can select copy or paste.

Please put it within code tags using the # icon at the top of the editing window.


this text is within code tags

and it will look like this

this text is within code tags

ibjsb4
May 25th, 2013, 01:43 PM
3500; congrads there sudodus :)

sudodus
May 25th, 2013, 01:45 PM
Thank you :-)

bcbc
May 25th, 2013, 02:04 PM
Hello everyone,

My system:Acer 5733,i3,6gb,600gb.
It came with windows7. I downloaded wubi-ubuntu12.04lts.

The problem: Using "Update Manager" i tried to upgrade from 12.04 to 12.10.
A box opened called "Distribution Upgrade" with a list of six tasks for it to do.
It did the first task "Preparing to upgrade"and gave it a green tick.
During the second task "Setting new software channels" it stopped and gave the following error:

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There is about 70gb of free space on the partition I use for Linux. I don't know what " Disk '/' " means.
I'm a beginner when it comes to understanding Linux so if if anyone has any suggestions I'd be grateful.

thanks
paul
It doesn't matter how much free space is on the partition. Wubi uses a virtual disk and this is what it's referring to when it says "/". The upgrade tool Ubuntu uses doesn't accurately measure how much free space is needed. In my experience it's 3GB to be safe, whereas the tool will usually allow the upgrade to proceed with half that.

So long story short, you ran out of space. Depending on where it failed you could be in a recoverable state, or not. First thing you can do is recover data from the root.disk (\ubuntu\disks\root.disk) using ext2read (http://sourceforge.net/projects/ext2read/files/) on Windows. Then if you want to try to recover you'll have to show where you're at and grab a live USB/DVD.

paulxx
May 25th, 2013, 02:41 PM
This is the screenshot:


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paulxx
May 25th, 2013, 02:43 PM
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paulxx
May 25th, 2013, 02:51 PM
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paulxx
May 25th, 2013, 02:58 PM
Thanks bcbc,
When the upgrade failed it just reset to 12.04lts so fortunately, I don't have a problem that needs recovering as far as I can tell.

paul

paulxx
May 25th, 2013, 03:02 PM
Hello sudodus,

Is this what you meant?
I seem to have posted it twice by accident.
I'm a beginner with Linux and I'm operating at the edge of my comprehension here. I feel like Wily Cayote whose ran off the cliff and my legs are spinning round, I'll be alright as long as I don't look down...

paulxx
May 25th, 2013, 03:04 PM
Thanks ibjsb4, I'm going to investigate "dual boot" straight away.

ibjsb4
May 25th, 2013, 03:26 PM
This may help you not run off those cliffs.

http://www.googlubuntu.com/results/?cx=006238239194895611142:u-ocqbntw_o&q=dual+boot+windows+7&sa=Search&cof=FORID:9

Still a good idea not to look down :)

sudodus
May 25th, 2013, 03:49 PM
Hello sudodus,

Is this what you meant?
I seem to have posted it twice by accident.
I'm a beginner with Linux and I'm operating at the edge of my comprehension here. I feel like Wily Cayote whose ran off the cliff and my legs are spinning round, I'll be alright as long as I don't look down...

Well, yes, it's there. Next time you can cut and paste the text instead of attaching a screenshot for what is only text information.

The root partition '/' is loop mounted inside a file, which is typical for wubi. And there is too little space left. So the best thing for you to do is to migrate the wubi system to a dual boot system.

/dev/sda4 is an extended partition and /dev/sda5 is a logical partition inside the extended partition. This is good. You can shrink /dev/sda5 and create space for a dual boot system. The migration process is described in the link about migration in post #4. And of course you can continue to get help here. Think twice before deciding the size of the root partition and the swap partition! How much space can you make free?

Your Ubuntu uses almost 16 GB now. There are 68 GB free in /dev/sda5. I would say that around half of it, 36 GB, would be fine, say 30 GB for Ubuntu's root partition and 6 GB for swap. But you can also create more space for Ubuntu if you wish, for example 40 GB for the root partition. After the migration process, the wubi file can be wiped, and you get almost 18 more GB available in the partition /dev/sda5.

You can also choose to move your personal data to the remaining /dev/sda5, which has the file system ntfs, and will be available from Windows as well as from Ubuntu. In this case you need not have a big root partition for Ubuntu, 20 GB would be fine.

If you do not intend to hibernate your Ubuntu system, you need not have 6 GB of RAM, and 2 or 4 GB will be fine, depending on your habits to occupy memory.

-o-

Before editing the partition table, you should backup your system, either the whole system or at the very least, your personal data (documents, pictures etc). Editing partitions is risky, so if you care about your data, please back them up!

I suggest that you use gparted when booting from another drive to edit the partitions. The Ubuntu install drive is a good candidate, run a live session and use gparted (with is already there).

paulxx
May 25th, 2013, 04:31 PM
Thanks sudodus,
I appreciate the work you've put in to this.
It seems too complicated and beyond my capabilities at the moment. I've printed a copy of your post #17 and I'll work my way through it till it becomes a bit clearer. I've also downloaded a copy of the Ubuntu manual which might help.
I'm happy with 12.04 at the moment and after six months using a Linux-based system I don't think I'll be returning to Windows, Ubuntu is just so good, it feels "comfortable" if that makes sense. The only "problem" is that you need to be more technically knowledgable with Ubuntu compared with Windows, all that Terminal/sudo/grub stuff is difficult to start with.
I'm going to postpone upgrading to 12.10 until I've learned more. Perhaps in a few weeks/months I'll give it another go.

BIG THANKS to you and all the others,
regards
paul

paulxx
May 25th, 2013, 04:47 PM
Hello ibjsb4,
That link in your post #16 is a map of France.

How can you tell I'm in France?

paul

ibjsb4
May 25th, 2013, 04:53 PM
Hello ibjsb4,
That link in your post #16 is a map of France.

How can you tell I'm in France?

paul

That is a link on to 'how to dual boot"

Or at lease thats what happens when I click on it.

sudodus
May 25th, 2013, 05:12 PM
Thanks sudodus,
I appreciate the work you've put in to this.
It seems too complicated and beyond my capabilities at the moment. I've printed a copy of your post #17 and I'll work my way through it till it becomes a bit clearer. I've also downloaded a copy of the Ubuntu manual which might help.
I'm happy with 12.04 at the moment and after six months using a Linux-based system I don't think I'll be returning to Windows, Ubuntu is just so good, it feels "comfortable" if that makes sense. The only "problem" is that you need to be more technically knowledgable with Ubuntu compared with Windows, all that Terminal/sudo/grub stuff is difficult to start with.
I'm going to postpone upgrading to 12.10 until I've learned more. Perhaps in a few weeks/months I'll give it another go.

BIG THANKS to you and all the others,
regards
paul

You are welcome :-)

Anyway, in the meantime, make and keep a good backup routine! This will give you peace of mind before, during and after upgrading ;-)

paulxx
May 25th, 2013, 05:16 PM
I get this when I click on that link.


243025

What does it mean?

paulxx
May 25th, 2013, 05:51 PM
Hello ibjsb4,

I can't get that link to work.

googl ubuntu does not work for me !?. when I search normal google for "dual boot windows 7" i get pages of stuff on dual booting more than one Windows system.

Can you type it out here so that I can cut-and-paste it?
thanks.
paul

ibjsb4
May 25th, 2013, 07:31 PM
Search "dual boot ubuntu and windows 7"

Googlubuntu will do a Ubuntu Forum search (when it works). I guess it has its limitations.

bcbc
May 25th, 2013, 10:19 PM
Thanks bcbc,
When the upgrade failed it just reset to 12.04lts so fortunately, I don't have a problem that needs recovering as far as I can tell.

paul
You're actually lucky then that you had two little space for even the upgrade tool. If you had 2GB it would have started, still have run out of space, but probably a broken install.

You can just stick with 12.04 until you figure out what you wan to do. I'd recommend that anyway. There's not a whole lot of new stuff in 12.10 or 13.04 that warrant upgrading (in my opinion).

Your options are:
1. You can migrate your Wubi install to a normal dual boot: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MigrateWubi
2. You can install fresh and restore data and settings.
3. You can stick with what you have and free up space... e.g. http://askubuntu.com/questions/297423/getting-more-space-on-wubi (http://askubuntu.com/q/297423/14916)

paulxx
June 7th, 2013, 03:09 PM
Well I've managed to upgrade to 12.10.

It seems that the lack of space could have been to do with my "User" area rather than the space on the disk.

When I ran "Disk Usage Analyser" it showed 100gb or so free space but in my user area "paul" it was over 90% full. (It seems that each user is allocated 10.6gb and i'd almost filled that).
When I transferred some of my files to a memory stick and so freed some space on my user area, the upgrade worked without any problems.

So PROBLEM SOLVED!

Thanks everyone!

paul
(now if I can only remember how to mark this as SOLVED)