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AnonymousJustified
May 14th, 2013, 04:02 AM
I'm trying to install Lubuntu 13.04 on my Windows 8 machine. Specifically, the machine is an HP 2000 bf-69WM. This model came with a 64-bit installation of Windows 8, running with the UEFI boot system.

I installed Lubuntu for what I assume is fully, however when installing GRUB, the installer crashed. Using my LiveUSB, I managed to find that necessary files and folders were there. While it wasn't a comprehensive check, I'm fairly certain of this.

So, now I have Lubuntu, but the issue is that I can't do anything with it. The Windows 8 boot options don't come up, leading me to believe that it has no entry there, and I don't have access to GRUB, since it didn't install.

I attempted to work things out on my own, and all that did was make me temporarily lose access to Windows 8. Luckily, Boot Repair backs up these files, so I was able to retrieve Windows.

So what can I do to access my installation of Lubuntu? I am armed with a LiveUSB stick, Windows 8, and a WiFi internet connection.

oldfred
May 14th, 2013, 04:48 AM
Post the link to the BootInfo report that this creates. Is part of Boot-Repair:
https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Boot-Info
Boot Repair -Also handles LVM, GPT, separate /boot and UEFI dual boot.:
https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Boot-Repair
You can repair many boot issues with this or 'Create BootInfo' report (Other Options) & post the link it creates, so we can see your exact configuration and diagnose advanced problems.


Installing Ubuntu on HP Envy-6 Details of what worked post #11
http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2123975
HP to get into UEFI/BIOS menu - escape then f10 as soon as it starts.
http://h10025.www1.hp.com/ewfrf/wc/document?docname=c01443329&lc=en&cc=us&dlc=en&product=5171079

while these will not be the same, some issues will be.
Users detailed what they had to do.

Dell UltraBook - Instructions & Details in Post #15 & 16 Devine Shine
http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2144853
Installing Ubuntu 12.10 x64 on Dell XPS 13 Alongside Windows from USB New user with Details post 10
http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2108450

[SOLVED] Can't install Windows 8 & Ubuntu in Toshiba Portege Z930 with explanation how by OP feb 2013
http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2114290

AnonymousJustified
May 14th, 2013, 05:06 AM
The BootInfo report.
http://paste.ubuntu.com/5663347/

As for the HP Envy-6, I already tried doing a recommended repair. I received errors along the lines of GRUB failing to start, and was subsequently unable to start GRUB unless I had my USB drive plugged in, in which case it would give the same options as it would had I chosen to boot from USB.

As for HP's website regarding BIOS setup, that wasn't referring to the model that I was using, but I will try that after making this post.

Regarding the DELL computers, I'd rather wait to see what there is to say regarding my BootInfo report before I go mucking about in file editing repairs again.

oldfred
May 14th, 2013, 05:37 AM
I do not see anything wrong. Some systems will boot with secure boot off, some have to have secure boot on. And then some also have modified UEFI to only boot the Windows efi file.
If you can boot with secure boot off, then it should boot. Can you select ubuntu from UEFI menu.

Only Windows boot entry you should need. All the others are hp utilities or grub2's os-prober which has a bug and does not work.
menuentry "Windows UEFI bootmgfw.efi"

If you have to have secure boot on and Windows still boots. Then boot repair is offering to rename files.
It backs up the Windows efi file and renames shim to the Windows name. Shim has the Microsoft secure boot key.
Then from UEFI you boot Windows (really shim) and then you can boot his file from grub menu to get Windows.
EFI/Boot/bkpbootx64.efi
or
/EFI/Microsoft/Boot/bkpbootmgfw.efi




Boot-Repair - Updated Jan 1, 2013 to not rename first time, but rename if first time Windows does not boot. Post 706 and 711
http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1769482&page=71
Boot-Repair copied /EFI/ubuntu/grubx64.efi to /EFI/Boot/bootx64.efi (in case the BIOS is hard-coded to boot into /EFI/Boot/bootx64.efi or secure boot signed GRUB file shimx64.efi.

AnonymousJustified
May 14th, 2013, 06:01 AM
Okay, this is probably a result of me messing up or something, but now I am back into a situation I was in before.

Whenever I go to turn on my computer, I am greeted with an error saying "Selected boot image did not authenticate". Then, pressing enter to dismiss the message shuts down my machine. However, I can still boot when the LiveUSB is plugged in.

Most likely, this is me forgetting a step or something of that nature.

oldfred
May 14th, 2013, 02:28 PM
That is trying to boot in secure boot mode. And you did not have the secure boot version of Ubuntu installed yet.
If you turn secure boot off does it work?
If not use Boot-Repair to install the secure boot signed versions of grub & kernel.

AnonymousJustified
May 14th, 2013, 03:14 PM
Are you certain? I made a point in the settings to turn secure boot off.
However, I did get the same error with secure boot on last time. But first, it brought up some messages about GRUB failing to load. This time, it just jumped straight to the boot image thing.
I'll look into what I can do with the kernel, but something tells me it wont be much.

oldfred
May 14th, 2013, 04:07 PM
Also many systems need nomodeset, so if you get grub menu, but then cannot boot Ubuntu because of black scrren add nomodeset on the linux line in the grub boot stanza. You have to use e to open up the details of the boot stanza.

How to set NOMODESET and other kernel boot options in grub2 - both liveCD & first boot, but different
http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1613132
https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BootOptions
Graphics Resolution- Upgrade /Blank Screen after reboot mega thread - MAFoElffen
http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1743535



I think this is a permanent change which you can undo later.
Boot-Repair --> Advanced options --> GRUB options tab --> tick the "Uncomment GFXMODE" option --> Apply
Boot-Repair --> Advanced options --> GRUB options tab --> tick "Add kernel option: nomodeset" --> Apply

AnonymousJustified
May 15th, 2013, 04:54 PM
Well, you didn't quite describe my exact problem. The issue is more like Ubuntu's boot image not authenticating after I repair the boot settings and install GRUB. It just doesn't want to load up.

I did change some stuff real quick though, and while I'm not sure if it'll be different, I think it may be worth looking through the BootInfo
http://paste.ubuntu.com/5668005 (http://paste.ubuntu.com/5663347/)/
I still have the feeling that I'm somehow missing a step.

oldfred
May 15th, 2013, 06:14 PM
If it is not authenticating then you need the secure boot versions installed.

Boot-Repair will update to the secure boot signed version.
Recommended-Repair
This setting would purge (in order to sign-grub) and reinstall the grub-efi-amd64-signed of sda6, using the following options: sda2/boot/efi,
Additional repair would be performed: unhide-bootmenu-10s backup-and-rename-efi-files

Some (many?) Windows 8 have modified UEFI to only boot Windows efi file (Not per UEFI standard). Boot repair does a backup & rename to work around that issue.

AnonymousJustified
May 15th, 2013, 06:43 PM
Okay, by activating Secure Boot, I now have access to GRUB! Success!

There is still an issue though... Lubuntu doesn't boot, except on the pendrive, and all of the options to start Windows 8 return an error and take me back to GRUB.

Well, that wasn't fully accurate. Lubuntu DOES boot, but it doesn't finish booting. Partway through the boot process the screen freezes for an indeterminate amount of time(probably eternity until the computer is shut off). I have a lot of extra options in GRUB as well, most of them HP garbage I can easily ignore.

So for the most part, it's working, but Lubuntu doesn't want to boot. Any ideas or diagnoses I can run?

oldfred
May 15th, 2013, 08:22 PM
I do not know Lubuntu, but have you tried the nomodeset from post #8?

What video card/chip do you have. If one of the dual video systems, usually best to turn one off in UEFI.

AnonymousJustified
May 15th, 2013, 09:22 PM
Nomodeset was actually what allowed me to work GRUB, so yes I have! As for my graphics card, it's an AMD Radeon HD 6310.

The new problem isn't so much on GRUB or issues with the boot firmware, but it seems to be closer to being about the installation itself. I wonder if there's anything that Lubuntu installs after GRUB, if so that'd explain it. I still have Lubuntu on a pendrive that boots properly, so it's likely an issue with the installed software.

oldfred
May 15th, 2013, 10:28 PM
I think live installers seem to default better to a working driver than the actual install.

If nomodeset does not work try a couple of other settings. Can also be BIOS setting or you may need other boot parameters. Delete quiet splash when adding nomodeset or other parameter(s) and see if you can see where it stops. Usually last entry is not the issue be one several earlier.

I think the generic setting is more like live installer.
Some other settings:
http://ubuntu-tutorials.com/2010/05/06/ubuntu-10-04-lucid-blank-screen-at-startup-workaround/



Older Intel video card: i915.modeset=1 or i915.modeset=0 newer: i915.i915_enable_rc6=1
nVidia: nomodeset
Generic: xforcevesa or nouveau.modeset=0
Radeon: radeon.modeset=0