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agentjwall
May 10th, 2013, 12:16 AM
Hello,
I'm trying to install Ubuntu (64-bit) on an old Dell PowerEdge 800 Server and I'm running into problems. The server only has a CD-Drive (Not DVD) and doesn't seem to support USB-Booting (As far as I can tell). Ubuntu 64-bit is too large to fit onto a normal CD so I'm struggling to find a way to install it.

Any ideas?

Thanks in advance,
Wallace

snowpine
May 10th, 2013, 12:18 AM
Hi Wallace,

Give the Ubuntu Minimal CD a try; it's tiny! :)

https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/MinimalCD

ibjsb4
May 10th, 2013, 12:32 AM
Ubuntu 12.04 will fit on a cd and its supported till 2017. And at boot (login) choose Ubuntu 2D by clicking on the icon. Your server is not going to support 3D.

You can also install the classic desktop if that one is not to your liking and again choose at login.

In terminal (https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UsingTheTerminal#Starting_a_Terminal), enter:

sudo apt-get install gnome-session-fallback

snowpine
May 10th, 2013, 01:04 AM
Presumably OP is installing Ubuntu Server on his/her server, so 2D/3D is a moot point, no? :D

agentjwall, I am not sure your hardware supports 64-bit? Might want to try 32-bit.

ibjsb4
May 10th, 2013, 01:08 AM
Im thinking 64 bit server is 701M and a cd can hold 703M. At any rate, better to hear it from the OP :)

agentjwall
May 10th, 2013, 02:10 AM
Bear with me I'm new to Ubuntu...

I am intending to use it as a server still but what's the difference between Ubuntu Server and Regular? My server has 8 gigs of RAM so doesn't it require 64-bit? Also what's the difference between 2D and 3D?

snowpine
May 10th, 2013, 03:03 AM
Ubuntu Server is designed for this: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Server_%28computing%29

Ubuntu Desktop is designed for this: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Desktop_computer

Whether you want 32 bit or 64 bit is entirely dependant on the CPU. What is the CPU?

agentjwall
May 10th, 2013, 04:16 AM
Intel Pentium(R) 4 CPU 2.8 GHz x2

ibjsb4
May 10th, 2013, 01:37 PM
If you wish to use your Dell as a server, then install the "Server Edition". If you want to use it as a desktop computer (with a GUI) then install the standard Ubuntu. Just because your Dell is a server does not mean you have to install the server edition, it can also run a standard desktop.

The info Im finding online indicates that your processor (http://ark.intel.com/products/27447/Intel-Pentium-4-Processor-2_80-GHz-512K-Cache-533-MHz-FSB) is single core, no hyperthreading (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hyper-threading) and no SMP. (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Symmetric_multiprocessing)

Ubuntu 12.04 (Unity desktop) was the last release to fit on a CD. There is also Lubuntu (http://lubuntu.net/) and Xubuntu (http://xubuntu.org/) which may run faster on your processor.

So I guess the question is what do you intend to use it for.

agentjwall
May 10th, 2013, 10:15 PM
I'm mostly using it as a hobby; setting it up for random odds and ends like cloud-storage and whatnot.

I think I have enough information to go from here. Thank you both for all of your help!

beatgr
June 14th, 2013, 12:00 PM
I'm trying to install Ubuntu (64-bit) on an old Dell PowerEdge 800 Server and I'm running into problems. The server only has a CD-Drive (Not DVD) and doesn't seem to support USB-Booting (As far as I can tell). Ubuntu 64-bit is too large to fit onto a normal CD so I'm struggling to find a way to install it.
Wallace -

The DVD-ROM drives have been so cheap past few years (surplus pulls),
I swapped out the CD-ROM for a DVD-ROM in my old PowerEdge 1400 server -- and never looked back!