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bluenova
April 15th, 2013, 12:04 PM
I've been a desktop user for years (building my own) but it looks like I may need to move in with my Mum for a few months and she doesn't have space for my desktop setup so I'm going to have to get a laptop.

Based on budget and required specs I've whittled it down to a choice of two:

Samsung 350V5C 15.6-inch Laptop (Silver) - (Intel Core i7 3630QM 2.4GHz Processor, 8GB RAM, 1TB HDD, DVDSM DL, LAN, WLAN, BT, Webcam, Integrated Graphics, Windows 8)
Lenovo Ideapad Z580 15.6 inch Laptop-Gunmetal (Intel Core i7-3520, 8GB RAM, 1TB HDD, DVDRW, LAN, WLAN, BT, Webcam, Integrated Graphics, Windows 8)

As you can see they both have similar specs and they are both currently £599 on Amazon.

The Samsung reportedly has random build quality issues (but I could always exchange if I get a duff one) also the touchpad apparently feels a bit cheap. The screen though is matt and anti-reflective (big plus) and it has better processor.
The Lenovo reportedly has good build quality and a great keyboard/touchpad but the screen is apparently very reflective.

Does anyone have any experience with Ubuntu on these? I've seen a few posts regarding the Lenovo so I guess the Lenovo is easy enough to deal with Secure boot but I haven't read anything regarding the Samsung.

ajgreeny
April 15th, 2013, 02:05 PM
Do you have to have windows on the machine?

If it is not needed and you don't want a dual boot have a look at Novatech (http://www.novatech.co.uk/novatech/home.html) and PCSpecialist (http://www.pcspecialist.co.uk/), both of whom produce great hardware and will let you have a machine without windows, saving you cash, though those prices seem very good..

cortman
April 15th, 2013, 02:19 PM
You do yourself a favor getting integrated graphics.
Lenovo/Thinkpad build quality is supposed to be legendary. I assume that carries over to the Ideapad.

cprofitt
April 15th, 2013, 02:22 PM
Being honest I have no experience with Samsung, but I am not a fan of the Ideapad line from Lenovo. I am a huge fan of the Thinkpad series from Lenovo though. The other brand I like is Asus, but you do have to ensure compatibility.

matt_symes
April 15th, 2013, 02:30 PM
Being honest I have no experience with Samsung, but I am not a fan of the Ideapad line from Lenovo. I am a huge fan of the Thinkpad series from Lenovo though. The other brand I like is Asus, but you do have to ensure compatibility.

oih ! There's nothing wrong with an Ideapad :popcorn:

Posting from one now :D

mips
April 15th, 2013, 03:13 PM
I would rather go for a Thinkpad, Asus or Macbook Pro. I would prefer a nVidia GPU if it's my only PC.

kurt18947
April 15th, 2013, 03:23 PM
I would rather go for a Thinkpad, Asus or Macbook Pro. I would prefer a nVidia GPU if it's my only PC.

Yup, Intel or nVidia GPU and not the hybrid - Optimus or the AMD equivalent. There is a fix to enable hybrid graphics but the fix seems works for some and not for others. I'm a fan of Thinkpads but the ones I have are from when IBM was still involved with Lenovo in design and maybe production. Personally I'd stay away from shiny/glary screens. I find it real annoying to have overhead lights or the sun reflecting on the display.

divergex
April 15th, 2013, 06:52 PM
I have had very good experiences with IdeaPads. Used one for myself and it worked flawlessly with Ubuntu. The only thing that did not work out of the box was the Realtek memory card reader and that was solved with a driver. My next laptop will most likely be an IdeaPad. My son had an IdeaPad as well with Windows and he had no issues either, and he tends to be rough on electronics. Unfortunately I have never used a Samsung with Ubuntu but be sure to look up the specific model. If I remember correctly (and someone please correct me if I am mistaken) some Samsung models had/have issues with secure boot causing problems for Ubuntu.

mips
April 15th, 2013, 07:04 PM
Yup, Intel or nVidia GPU and not the hybrid..

Depends on your distro I think. I think Manjaro for example will configure that for you out of the box for nVidia.

pqwoerituytrueiwoq
April 15th, 2013, 10:20 PM
i am pretty happy with my notebook (link in signature)
just have to use acpi_osi='!Windows' in the kernel boot line for raring ringtail (13.04)
i have upgraded the storage in it, 320gb wd black drive and a 60gb mushkin chronos deluxe ssd (removed the dvd burner for the ssd)

drawkcab
April 16th, 2013, 06:47 AM
As others have said, get a Thinkpad instead. They're awesome and IBM customer service is extraordinary.

tubbygweilo
April 16th, 2013, 03:17 PM
As others have said, get a Thinkpad instead. They're awesome and IBM customer service is extraordinary.

A saying from my youth
“no one ever got fired for buying IBM". May still be true. :D

pinballwizard
April 16th, 2013, 03:48 PM
I have an HP, and Lenovo, and My parents have Samsungs all running (U)buntu and out of them all I'd take the HP or my work supplied Dell for buuld quality and out of the box readiness for Ubuntu.

oldfred
April 16th, 2013, 05:32 PM
Windows 8 and UEFI will make it "fun" to try to install. But avoid the higher end Ultrabooks if possible. The Intel SRT is a cache for Windows, but some with larger SSD, just turn off the cache and install / (root) into SSD making Ubuntu quick. But you still have the Optimus issues although nVidia just announced a beta with some support for Optimus. But that will not really work for a version or two. Some do have good luck with bumblebee.

Lenovo Z580 laptop
http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2112271
See post #29 on removing Battery to get it to reset & boot Ubuntu.
http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2117760


Samsung Ultrabook Windows 8 & Ubuntu & recovery boot Disk view of partitions post 7
http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2097690
Samsung Series 7 - post #5 Windows 8 & UEFI, Ubuntu only to new SSD
http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=12382951
SAMSUNG Series 3 NP365E5C-XXXXX laptops
http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2120763
Samsung series 5 UltraBook, erase Windows & install to SSD
http://schoolsplay.wordpress.com/2012/11/22/install-ubuntu-linux-on-a-samsung-series-5-ultrabook-with-ssd/

bluenova
April 16th, 2013, 06:31 PM
I went and had a look at the Samsung in a shop, the build seemed quite cheap. I'm definitely leaning towards the Lenovo. I'd like to keep Windows (I don't currently use or even have a copy) but it's useful for firmware updates to sat-navs etc.

Have any of you who have the Lenovo had problems with the screen reflectivity? If it's only a mild problem then that's fine for me only I've read some reviews that say it's really bad. Unfortunately I haven't found a shop with the Z580 on display to check it myself. I did find a G580 which seemed fine but I don't know how similar they are.

eddier
April 16th, 2013, 10:13 PM
I'd like to keep Windows (I don't currently use or even have a copy) but it's useful for firmware updates to sat-navs etc.

Most Laptops have an access hatch for the hard drive,buy a small (120GB) drive and install windows to that,conversely keep Windows on the original drive and get the extra Drive for Linux. I can swap hard drives in under 5 minutes on mine.

eddie

soloman469
April 17th, 2013, 04:14 AM
Get the Lenovo! From my personal experience, Lenovo is a very good quality brand.

bluenova
May 15th, 2013, 10:14 AM
I went for the Lenovo :)

Now I'm waiting for the Home Delivery Network to pull their finger out. It was out for delivery yesterday but never turned up, they say it will arrive today but I don't hold out much hope.