32 or 64 bit OS

[remo88]

Hello all,

To tell the truth I am not much into programming myself, the best I can do is to code some stuff in C++ :P
But I am fed up with Windows and fed up with Microsoft so I decided to give Ubuntu a try. But before I do I have couple of questions.

I am using a mini-pc from Sapphire (hd-3 for those of you who know what it is) Overall, here are the specs:
http://www.sapphiretech.com/presentation/product/?cid=6&gid=1054&sgid=1150&pid=1434&lid=1

My question are:
1. Will Ubuntu run well on this kind of PC?
2. What version should I install. 32 or 64 bit?
3. What type of install should I make? is there much difference if I install the OS with dual boot windows? or the best thing is clean install?


Thanks in advance, and wish me luck :)

[satyamM]

Hello all,

To tell the truth I am not much into programming myself, the best I can do is to code some stuff in C++ :P
But I am fed up with Windows and fed up with Microsoft so I decided to give Ubuntu a try. But before I do I have couple of questions.

I am using a mini-pc from Sapphire (hd-3 for those of you who know what it is) Overall, here are the specs:
http://www.sapphiretech.com/presentation/product/?cid=6&gid=1054&sgid=1150&pid=1434&lid=1

My question are:
1. Will Ubuntu run well on this kind of PC?
2. What version should I install. 32 or 64 bit?
3. What type of install should I make? is there much difference if I install the OS with dual boot windows? or the best thing is clean install?


Thanks in advance, and wish me luck :)


Ans 1: Sure it should run well. Search for experiences of other Sapphire Ubuntu users.
Ans 2: Find out which version the PC is. Install that version.
Ans 3: Depends on your use of windows. How much do you need windows? If you are first time going for Ubuntu, I suggest go for dual boot. Try for sometime, then once you get acquainted and comfortable with Ubuntu, you can shift to Ubuntu permanently.

[remo88]

Thank you very much for the help;
What do you mean by "version of PC"? I am currently using a windows 64 but due to 4 gigs of RAM that I have. Is that what you mean?

Thanks

[carl4926]

Yes
64 bit
You decide...

[howefield]

Will Ubuntu run well on this kind of PC?

Looks fine, I'd be a bit wary of the graphics card/chip, you may need a lighter desktop environment than Unity.


What version should I install. 32 or 64 bit?

This machine looks like it can take either, so I'd go 64 bit.


What type of install should I make? is there much difference if I install the OS with dual boot windows? or the best thing is clean install?

Clean install to its own partition, side by side with Windows so you have a dual boot install. Only for your own piece of mind ;-)


... and wish me luck :)

Sure, good luck ;-)

[remo88]

Looks fine, I'd be a bit wary of the graphics card/chip, you may need a lighter desktop environment than Unity.



What environment do you recommend? Where would I get it?

Thanks

[satyamM]

Thank you very much for the help;
What do you mean by "version of PC"? I am currently using a windows 64 but due to 4 gigs of RAM that I have. Is that what you mean?

Thanks

Yeah if it is windows 64, then it is 64 bit. So you go for 64 bit version. It should work alright.

[carl4926]

What environment do you recommend? Where would I get it?

Thanks

xubuntu is FAB

[howefield]

What environment do you recommend? Where would I get it?

Very subjective question, it's all about opinion and everyone has one.

Bear in mind I only said you may need a lighter environment,. it can often be the weak link in these types of machines.

But where I can't run Unity, I run xfce.

You can install different desktop environments from within any Ubuntu installation eg, installing xubuntu-desktop would install an xfce environment which you can select from the login screen.

[remo88]

Is there a difference between the different environments?
also I don't see xubuntu-desktop as an option. My options are:
Ubuntu,Kubuntu, Mythbuntu, Edubuntu, Lubuntu.

[howefield]

Is there a difference between the different environments?

Well, if they were all the same, they wouldn't be different...

Differences include not only in look and feel, but also in the range of applications they come with as default.

Go to each of the Ubuntu and derivative web sites, there should be screenshots on each, eg

ubuntu.com - default environment is Unity
xubuntu.com - default environment is XFCE
kubuntu.com - default environment is KDE
lubuntu.com - default environment is LXDE

[oldfred]

Just to add to the confusion, you do not have to use Unity in Ubuntu. I use gnome-panel or fallback.

Install 12.04.1 with screen shots of Unity, gnome3, & gnome fallback - Not everything is necessary, but shows how to do many things
http://debianhelp .wordpress. com/
Above link will not post, remove spaces.

gnome3 classic
sudo apt-get install gnome-panel
On login screen click on logo (top right) and choose
http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/classicgnome
12.04 LTS / Precise Classic (No effects) Tweaks and tricks kansasnoob & cortman
https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PreciseGnomeClassicTweaks
http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1966370


Comparison of desktop environments
https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Desktop_Environment
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_X_Window_System_desktop_environments
All Desktops in one:
http://askubuntu.com/questions/64241/how-do-i-switch-to-xubuntu
Both Unity and standard Gnome classic use Compiz as a WM, whereas Unity-2D and Gnome classic (no effects) use Metacity.
Gnome shell and Cinnamon (which is a gnome-shell extension) use Mutter as a WM.

[carl4926]

Is there a difference between the different environments?
also I don't see xubuntu-desktop as an option. My options are:
Ubuntu,Kubuntu, Mythbuntu, Edubuntu, Lubuntu.

http://xubuntu.org/getxubuntu/

[cybrsaylr]

IMHO 64 bit just runs better than 32 bit. I've used both.
As long as your PC supports 64 bit architecture I would opt for the 64 bit versions.

[remo88]

Well. I decided to go for Lubuntu after checking online. It seems that the lightweight interface works pretty well on my mini PC.

I have to say that I had couple of problems though:
Changing input language, Sound control at tray, and getting a game to run. But all was solved via reading online.

I have to say that comparing to windows the system much MUCH faster.

Currently I have only 1 issue with lubuntu.

Let's say I want to run a program which is in my: usr/downloads/folder/file.sh

I have no trouble running the file from the Terminal (./ command) but it is rather annoying to have to type in the command each time I want to run the application.. My question is: Is there a way to create a shortcut to a command on my desktop? So it would be like :I press on the icon on the desktop, it will automatically open the terminal, type in the command and will run the file?

If not, is there a way to run an application in one line? something like :

./ usr/download/folder/file.sh ? (without the whole process of cd)

Thanks

[carl4926]

You should be able to create a launcher either in the menu or on the desktop.

All it needs is the path to the application

[remo88]

You should be able to create a launcher either in the menu or on the desktop.

All it needs is the path to the application

Can you explain a little more please? I am pretty new to everything around here so any help will be most appreciated

Thanks =]

[carl4926]

Can you explain a little more please? I am pretty new to everything around here so any help will be most appreciated

Thanks =]

As I don't use Lubuntu, not really

[MAFoElffen]

Can you explain a little more please? I am pretty new to everything around here so any help will be most appreciated

Thanks =]
The easiest way for you would be to install the LXDE Menu Editor from:
http://lxmed.sourceforge.net/download.html

Otherwise, you could manually edit the menu file, but from your answers so far, reflecting your skills level, that might be a challenge for you.

The above menu editor would provide you a gui app asking for info and putting it into the correct format for a menu item...

[remo88]

Thanks, it helped but I am still left with the same problem..
I want to play Tibia. and when I double click the StartTibia.sh in my game folder nothing happens. The only way to run the game is to go manually to the game folder via the terminal and from there do ./StartTibia.sh

I did the path to the file in the app you suggested but nothing happens.