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Malmberg
January 20th, 2013, 12:00 PM
Greetings from a absolutely Newbie!
I'm actually quite proud of myself :-) - I have managed to make a mediaplayer from a leftover Aopen DE45-PRO/Ubuntu 12.04 and XBMC, it took a week, - without any knowledge re Linux at all!
I had to make some (several) re-installs, because I don't have a clue of what I am doing :-) - and a lot of searching for solutions - but now its working.

Now to my question:
Cant I set a system restore point, so I can get back to "as it is now"?

PS: I have disabled "automatic search for updates"!

Cheers - and thanks in advance.

Megaptera
January 20th, 2013, 12:38 PM
Hi,
There's not that function in Ubuntu, but you could see if Clonezilla or Remastersys are possibilities:

http://clonezilla.org/

http://www.geekconnection.org/remastersys/

chadk5utc
January 20th, 2013, 12:43 PM
+1 for both of these

Hi,
There's not that function in Ubuntu, but you could see if Clonezilla or Remastersys are possibilities:

http://clonezilla.org/

http://www.geekconnection.org/remastersys/

These programs make it very easy. Simply configure your system the way you want it with all the applications you need, then use remastersys to make an image of it and burn it to cd/dvd.

sudodus
January 20th, 2013, 01:12 PM
...
Now to my question:
Cant I set a system restore point, so I can get back to "as it is now"?

+1 to the suggestion by Megaptera.

. If you want only the system to be restored, use remastersys
. If you want everything (also your personal files), make an image with clonezilla.



PS: I have disabled "automatic search for updates"!

Cheers - and thanks in advance.
I would recommend that you enable "automatic search for updates", because this gives you a quick reminder each time there are security updates. Otherwise you are wide open to attacks via your internet connection. See this link

https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BasicSecurity (https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BasicSecurity)

MG&TL
January 20th, 2013, 01:33 PM
PS: I have disabled "automatic search for updates"!


Bad idea. Updates aren't that frequent, don't take very long at all, will install in the background, and won't force you to reboot (or do anything at all) until you want to.

Plus there are (few, admittedly) security vulnerabilities that are fixed by the updates.

Malmberg
January 20th, 2013, 02:22 PM
wow - prompt replies :-)

@ Megaptera, chadk5utc and sudodus: Thanks - I'll go that route!

@ MG&TL: Thanks - I know, I'll check manually once a month to see if there is up-dates, so I at least have an idea of what has fuxxx-up the unit.

MG&TL
January 20th, 2013, 03:42 PM
wow - prompt replies :-)

Yeah, good forum huh?


@ MG&TL: Thanks - I know, I'll check manually once a month to see if there is up-dates, so I at least have an idea of what has fuxxx-up the unit.


Whatever then. :)

grahammechanical
January 20th, 2013, 04:29 PM
I have found Linux/Ubuntu to be very robust. I run the development version of Ubuntu. That is the next version while it is still being developed. So, things do break. But even a power off + reboot does not break the OS only thing that was already breaking the desktop.

You may find that although you have been given good advice it will be useful when hardware breaks more than when Ubuntu breaks.

Regards.

ssulaco
January 20th, 2013, 05:28 PM
Bad idea. Updates aren't that frequent, don't take very long at all, will install in the background, and won't force you to reboot (or do anything at all) until you want to.

Plus there are (few, admittedly) security vulnerabilities that are fixed by the updates.

Agreed,Don't shut your updates down.

ibjsb4
January 20th, 2013, 05:47 PM
Agreed,Don't shut your updates down.

There are pro's and con's to update manager, myself I don't even have it installed.

MG&TL
January 20th, 2013, 06:07 PM
There are pro's and con's to update manager, myself I don't even have it installed.

Well yeah. Me neither, but I think for someone new to linux, it's probably a good idea rather than remembering to use CLI utilities every so often. :)

ssulaco
January 20th, 2013, 08:25 PM
There are pro's and con's to update manager, myself I don't even have it installed.
I've never had an issue with update manager causing malfunctions since 8.04,but then again I only use LTS's

Mark Phelps
January 20th, 2013, 08:30 PM
Not having "System Restore" available in Linux can actually be viewed as a good thing -- as folks in Windows often assume this means restoring the "whole" system, when in fact, it does not. It's not a Time Machine; instead, when some upgrades get performed, Windows squirrels off copies of the system files being changed. When you do a System Restore, all it does then is overwrite some system files with those older copies.

Which is why many folks in Windows use imaging apps (like Acronis or Macrium Reflect) to make full system backups -- which do allow the restoration of the "whole" system.

You can, and should, consider doing the same thing using Clonezilla. It only takes a few minutes to run and can save you HOURS of work should you need to restore your system.

Malmberg
January 22nd, 2013, 09:45 AM
Dear All,

Thanks for all your comments!

Ill keep my semi-automatic off - and check manually once twice a week!

And - give Clonezilla a try!

Cheers

sudodus
January 22nd, 2013, 10:16 AM
Good idea :KS

With Clonezilla images you will be able to restore the whole drive. Take new images at regular intervals, for example once a week or month, depending of how much new data you need to save. And take an extra backup if (for example) you just made a lot of new pictures.

If you have a lot of pictures, video clips, music files or other well compressed files, it might be a good idea to keep those data on a separate partition, and back it up some other way, for example with rsync (with or without a GUI). I use Unison for that purpose.

Malmberg
January 23rd, 2013, 09:51 AM
Good idea :KS

With Clonezilla images you will be able to restore the whole drive. Take new images at regular intervals, for example once a week or month, depending of how much new data you need to save. And take an extra backup if (for example) you just made a lot of new pictures.

If you have a lot of pictures, video clips, music files or other well compressed files, it might be a good idea to keep those data on a separate partition, and back it up some other way, for example with rsync (with or without a GUI). I use Unison for that purpose.

Hi sododus,
Do I need to take images with regular intervals? The "MediaPlayer", as we call it, is in my sons room, and is only used as a "Mediaplayer". All media lives on a HP server in our basement - so there is not any media at all on the "Mediaplayer"!

sudodus
January 23rd, 2013, 10:18 AM
No, when there are no major changes of the system (only updating), and no personal data (media files etc), you can restore the system from a rather old image (and update the system from there). That's OK.

Malmberg
January 23rd, 2013, 06:40 PM
No, when there are no major changes of the system (only updating), and no personal data (media files etc), you can restore the system from a rather old image (and update the system from there). That's OK.

Great - thanks for info :-)

Cheers