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sdowney717
January 3rd, 2013, 03:33 PM
It would be good if it could run android apps, is this possible?

http://techcrunch.com/2013/01/03/ubuntu-android-ios/

ojdon
January 3rd, 2013, 04:02 PM
It doesn't have Android's Dalvik VM, so short answer, no.

sdowney717
January 3rd, 2013, 04:12 PM
Could it have that?
If they want people to use it, then let it work with android apps already built.

ojdon
January 3rd, 2013, 04:43 PM
Again, short answer, not really.

I believe that the Blackberry Playbook and the Nokia N9 at some stage had a Dalvik VM-like piece of software which would run android apps, but it wasn't 100% compatible with all of Android's apps. If you want to use Android apps, get an Android device.

philinux
January 3rd, 2013, 06:09 PM
http://www.iloveubuntu.net/mark-shuttleworth-demoes-ubuntu-phones-clear-explanatory-22-minute-youtube-clip

alexfish
January 3rd, 2013, 06:27 PM
Don't care.

all things been = or un-equal,

R2 goes to microsoft

The R2 group holds patents for controlling electronic devices as well as providing the control app for Android,

http://techcrunch.com/2013/01/03/microsoft

Primefalcon
January 3rd, 2013, 07:36 PM
tbh when I do get a phone this is what I'll get... I dont give a rats about android apps... the amount of applications for Linux more than outweigh any disadvantage from not running android, windows or iphone aps...

Swagman
January 3rd, 2013, 07:42 PM
Well I just got an Android phone for Chrimbo so guess what I'll be asking Santa for next Chrimbo ?

KiwiNZ
January 3rd, 2013, 07:45 PM
When ROMs are available I will buy another handset to try this out

Paqman
January 3rd, 2013, 07:49 PM
When ROMs are available I will buy another handset to try this out

You'll probably find it'll run on your current one. Min spec is 1GHz A9 and 512MB RAM. If it's as easy to flash as an Android ROM it should be pretty painless to give it a go.

KiwiNZ
January 3rd, 2013, 07:53 PM
You'll probably find it'll run on your current one. Min spec is 1GHz A9 and 512MB RAM. If it's as easy to flash as an Android ROM it should be pretty painless to give it a go.

I have a quite new Galaxy S3 still under warranty,I cannot afford to be with out a phone so I will get another to test I h two on account SIMs I can use.

lisati
January 3rd, 2013, 07:58 PM
Whenever I get a new phone, either for myself or Mrs Lisati, my first priority is being able to keep in touch at a price I can afford, usually by phone calls or perhaps text messages. The ability to do other stuff, such as the ability to run certain apps, is generally a secondary consideration.

Paqman
January 3rd, 2013, 08:10 PM
I cannot afford to be with out a phone

Have you not flashed a ROM before? It's pretty easy, if anything went wrong with Ubuntu you'd just put Android back on. There's no more reason to be nervous about changing the OS on your phone than there is doing it on your PC. Once you've done it the first time you realise there was nothing to worry about.

KiwiNZ
January 3rd, 2013, 08:55 PM
Have you not flashed a ROM before? It's pretty easy, if anything went wrong with Ubuntu you'd just put Android back on. There's no more reason to be nervous about changing the OS on your phone than there is doing it on your PC. Once you've done it the first time you realise there was nothing to worry about.

Yes I have, however I am an owner of a Company and cannot afford to be with out my phone. Also as my current handset is still under warranty I will use OEM ROM.

Dr. C
January 3rd, 2013, 11:51 PM
It would be good if it could run android apps, is this possible?

http://techcrunch.com/2013/01/03/ubuntu-android-ios/

It is not a matter of if but when. For example: http://www.ubuntuvibes.com/2012/11/how-to-run-3d-android-games-and-apps-in.html

sdowney717
January 4th, 2013, 12:41 AM
Since android has so much momentum why not tie the ubuntu buggy to it and make this work. You already have a lot of developers working with android apps, so this would just make ubuntu phone os better.

Part of what kept back linux was MS office. Same sort of idea with ubuntu phone os. People are getting used to android.

user1397
January 4th, 2013, 07:53 AM
I am indeed very excited about this latest development from canonical. I am also fearful for it's success/failure (well just its failure).

What I really don't understand though is how this will affect ubuntu's relationship with google. I mean, as far as I know, ubuntu's main competitors have always been microsoft and apple. But now they're going head to head against google in the smartphone OS market. I think they should ally with Google against the other big 2...

For crying out loud, google even uses ubuntu at their headquarters!! Surely Mark Shuttleworth knows all this and I am missing the big picture here, can someone enlighten me?

Danny1234
January 4th, 2013, 07:57 AM
I think ubuntu will develop its own apps but it will happen in 2014.

grahammechanical
January 5th, 2013, 08:22 PM
I am missing the big picture here, can someone enlighten me?

I think you are. Remember when we got a version of Ubuntu that had the google search panel as the Ubuntu start panel of Firefox? It is still there. Then a little later Gooogle released its Android code back into Linux. I would say that there has been cooperation going on between Canonical and Ubuntu for a long time.

I would not say that they are going head to head with Google in the smartphone market. Go down the page on this link and read about New Markets.

http://www.ubuntu.com/devices/android

Ubuntu for Android will increase market share for Android in markets that it is not yet reaching.

Regards.

sdowney717
January 6th, 2013, 02:33 AM
Good link, and
That sounds like they are complimentary already.


The number one free desktop on the number one open phone
With over 20 million users, Ubuntu is the world’s favorite free operating system – and Ubuntu for Android is the first complete solution for office productivity on a phone. It lets Android and Ubuntu share the same Linux kernel, so they can run at the same time – Android for the phone experience and Ubuntu when docked. Which means one address book, one set of bookmarks, one place for text messages and one inbox for mail. And thanks to careful integration between the Ubuntu desktop and Android, user’s have access to the phone’s functions when it’s docked – including making and receiving calls.

mr john
January 6th, 2013, 05:53 AM
I have a quite new Galaxy S3 still under warranty,I cannot afford to be with out a phone so I will get another to test I h two on account SIMs I can use.

Understandable. Also, the rom being released is for a specific handset. It will be some time before that rom is ported to other handets.

irv
January 8th, 2013, 09:51 PM
I think ubuntu will develop its own apps but it will happen in 2014.

Maybe this will shed some light on the subject of app development for Android and Ubuntu. This is from http://blog.canonical.com/2013/01/02/its-official-ubuntu-now-fits-phones/

This is just a clip, for more insight read the post on the blog.
The way that apps are developed


We introduced the concept of installable web apps in the 12.10 desktop release, last October. But they really come into their own on the phone. Developers can re-purpose web applications for the phone, using the very same web app API, or they can adapt HTML5 apps theyíve already written for other mobile platforms. Both require minimum effort, which should ensure that we have plenty of new apps coming to the platform in the coming months. Itís the development of native apps, however, where things really get interesting.

By using the new QML-based Ubuntu SDK, itís possible to develop a native app in such a way that makes it available for both the desktop and the phone Ė not to mention any further form factors we address in the future. As long as you create the right interfaces, you can deliver an app for all Ubuntu form factors, but build once and upload once to the same single store, the Ubuntu Software Centre. Itís this point that I hope really enthuses the developers in the Ubuntu community Ė not to mention all those developers around the world who work on the web or in mobile and who already use Ubuntu on their desktops.


Hope this helped explain app development.