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Anniemoose98
December 27th, 2012, 06:36 PM
Hi All.

I am starting on my 2nd Build right now, I will be dual booting Ubuntu and Windows 7 (for gaming). I have a budget of $600, and I think that my build is pretty good. I want to keep it for AT LEAST 3 years with minimal upgrading for casual to heavy gaming. If someone can find a way to trim the rest of the parts so I can get a better GPU setup, I would be very happy. The reason I am doing 2x 550ti's is the fact that I have one on my first build that I am going to steal to do SLI.

My Build is:
http://pcpartpicker.com/p/urHB

I already have an ODD and a HDD. Please let me know if there are any issues with compatibility or any better builds out there. I want to keep everything on Newegg.

Thanks All!

AM98

madinc
December 27th, 2012, 07:10 PM
Hi there i prefer amd its cheaper and lasts long plus you also can get more kick for less money anyway there are always things you can trim like the ram see here http://pcpartpicker.com/part/geil-memory-gp38gb1333c9dc

Temüjin
December 27th, 2012, 07:27 PM
I've used AMD heavily in the past, but I would use Intel/Nvidia if I was building a system today. The i5-3570(k) is an awesome beast and worth the money for those who don't want to upgrade annually.

The build looks pretty good to me. I think you did your homework and made sacrifices in the right areas (case, PSU) without going to unreliable bargain-basement stuff. Personally, I would use the stock CPU cooler (assuming you're not OC'ing) and go for a GTX 660 like so: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814130825

EDIT: Oh, sorry, didn't see that you had 2 GTX550's in SLI.

Anniemoose98
December 27th, 2012, 07:35 PM
I've used AMD heavily in the past, but I would use Intel/Nvidia if I was building a system today. The i5-3570(k) is an awesome beast and worth the money for those who don't want to upgrade annually.

The build looks pretty good to me. I think you did your homework and made sacrifices in the right areas (case, PSU) without going to unreliable bargain-basement stuff. Personally, I would use the stock CPU cooler (assuming you're not OC'ing) and go for a GTX 660 like so: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814130825

EDIT: Oh, sorry, didn't see that you had 2 GTX550's in SLI.

Thanks. Will the 550ti's in SLI be faster than the 660? Or I could push my budget about $10 more, would I be able to get a better deal from an AMD/ATI GPU? I will likely not be OC-ing... I had just heard some things about how poor the cooler was, so I added the aftermarket one.

madinc
December 27th, 2012, 07:50 PM
Thanks. Will the 550ti's in SLI be faster than the 660? Or I could push my budget about $10 more, would I be able to get a better deal from an AMD/ATI GPU? I will likely not be OC-ing... I had just heard some things about how poor the cooler was, so I added the aftermarket one.

hey check this out this amd motherboard supports sli plus 8 core cpu see here http://pcpartpicker.com/p/usH7

madinc
December 27th, 2012, 07:55 PM
hey check this out this amd motherboard supports sli plus 8 core cpu see here http://pcpartpicker.com/p/usH7

the mb also has CrossFire Support

Anniemoose98
December 27th, 2012, 08:02 PM
the mb also has CrossFire Support
Will the 650's be more powerful than the 550ti's? Also, what advantages does the AMD processor/mobo have over the Intel ones besides price? Which one performs better?

madinc
December 27th, 2012, 08:20 PM
Will the 650's be more powerful than the 550ti's? Also, what advantages does the AMD processor/mobo have over the Intel ones besides price? Which one performs better?

yes the 650 are more powerful and the amd cpu/mobo for the cpu is much faster than the one you choose and the price is a good factor if you want more gpu power and the mobo supports both sli and crossfire which is a good thing but this is only my opinion i also build PC's and for me amd all the way but tell later what you end up with cheers.

Anniemoose98
December 27th, 2012, 08:25 PM
Ok, thanks. I will await the other poster's reply on the Intel side and compare to find the best deal and setup. I do have one question... Will I be able to get a better GPU if I go AMD? Would it be more optimized for an AMD build?

Thanks,

AM98

Temüjin
December 27th, 2012, 08:26 PM
I wouldn't mess with SLI (in Linux or Windows) unless I needed two high-powered GPUs to drive one or more huge displays. I would keep the 550 for the moment and see how it handles your gaming workload. It will probably be sufficient if you're running at a modest resolution. That way, you can save money up for your next GPU and sell the 550.


Also, what advantages does the AMD processor/mobo have over the Intel ones besides price?
None. Intel performs better and does so with less wattage.

Anniemoose98
December 27th, 2012, 08:35 PM
I wouldn't mess with SLI (in Linux or Windows) unless I needed two high-powered GPUs to drive one or more huge displays. I would keep the 550 for the moment and see how it handles your gaming workload. It will probably be sufficient if you're running at a modest resolution. That way, you can save money up for your next GPU and sell the 550.


None. Intel performs better and does so with less wattage.
Ok, thanks. I am leaning toward the Intel right now, mostly due to me having used my Celeron for so long with out issues. I HAVE noticed quite a bit of lag from the 550TI, especially because at the time I bought it last Christmas, I got the cheap 1GB Ram version with low stock clock. With the money I save from getting rid of the 2nd 550TI in my cart and the CPU cooler (~$160-$175), would I be able to get a better GPU as a single card?

madinc
December 27th, 2012, 08:42 PM
Ok, thanks. I will await the other poster's reply on the Intel side and compare to find the best deal and setup. I do have one question... Will I be able to get a better GPU if I go AMD? Would it be more optimized for an AMD build?

Thanks,

AM98

depends on your taste i guess i have 4 pc's at home 2 nvidia and 2 amd they all work great but you can see the links below don't forget there is a lot to choose from cheers.

http://pcpartpicker.com/part/asus-video-card-hd7770dc1gd5v2

http://pcpartpicker.com/part/gigabyte-video-card-gvr777oc1gdrev20

http://pcpartpicker.com/part/sapphire-video-card-112010220g

http://pcpartpicker.com/part/asus-video-card-hd77702gd5

Anniemoose98
December 27th, 2012, 08:51 PM
depends on your taste i guess i have 4 pc's at home 2 nvidia and 2 amd they all work great but you can see the links below don't forget there is a lot to choose from cheers.

http://pcpartpicker.com/part/asus-video-card-hd7770dc1gd5v2

http://pcpartpicker.com/part/gigabyte-video-card-gvr777oc1gdrev20

http://pcpartpicker.com/part/sapphire-video-card-112010220g

http://pcpartpicker.com/part/asus-video-card-hd77702gd5
I saw reviews on those. I could probably squeeze in a little bigger than that. What would you suggest?

Temüjin
December 27th, 2012, 09:01 PM
The 550Ti is a dressed up GT540. Get yourself a GTX660: http://techreport.com/review/23527/review-nvidia-geforce-gtx-660-graphics-card/11
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814130825

madinc
December 27th, 2012, 09:02 PM
I wouldn't mess with SLI (in Linux or Windows) unless I needed two high-powered GPUs to drive one or more huge displays. I would keep the 550 for the moment and see how it handles your gaming workload. It will probably be sufficient if you're running at a modest resolution. That way, you can save money up for your next GPU and sell the 550.


None. Intel performs better and does so with less wattage.

Hey all my pc's have 2 gpu's the nvidia ones with sli and amd ones with crossfire i see no problems at all and about the cpu how is the Intel Core i5-3570K better than the AMD FX-8120 just curious because i have build pc's with both and in this case the AMD is better i know that intel has good cpu's but those are way more expensive and Core i5-3570K just isn't one of them.

Temüjin
December 27th, 2012, 09:05 PM
http://techreport.com/review/21813/amd-fx-8150-bulldozer-processor/19

Anniemoose98
December 27th, 2012, 09:10 PM
http://techreport.com/review/21813/amd-fx-8150-bulldozer-processor/19

So what GPU would be best for my money right now? 2x 550ti's or a different single card?

Temüjin
December 27th, 2012, 09:13 PM
So what GPU would be best for my money right now? 2x 550ti's or a different single card?
http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=12424718&postcount=14

madinc
December 27th, 2012, 09:14 PM
http://techreport.com/review/21813/amd-fx-8150-bulldozer-processor/19

Intel Core i5-3570K VS the AMD FX-8120

Temüjin
December 27th, 2012, 09:27 PM
I'm not an Intel fanboy, as my machines have AMD chips and I would use AMD chips in value builds. Since the primary role of this machine seems to be gaming, AMD's chips don't even get my consideration because of their single-threaded task performance.

Anniemoose98
December 27th, 2012, 09:39 PM
If I go with that, I need to trim out a little more. Any cheaper case alternatives? Preferably with halfway decent cable management. I do not need anything fancy.

EDIT: Would the CM Elite 430 be an OK alternative? I can get it for about $29.99 with Rebates and such.

madinc
December 27th, 2012, 09:48 PM
I'm not an Intel fanboy, as my machines have AMD chips and I would use AMD chips in value builds. Since the primary role of this machine seems to be gaming, AMD's chips don't even get my consideration because of their single-threaded task performance.

Like i wrote before i use both of them and the OP said he wanted to trim so he could have better gpu's since the primary role of this machine seems to be gaming the AMD FX-8120 cpu will rip any game you want and because its cheaper not only the cpu but also the mobo the OP can invest more money where it really matters and that is the gpu's cheers.

Anniemoose98
December 27th, 2012, 09:54 PM
I like the 660. Tom's Hardware shows it as very good FPS on Ultra on games. If I trim out the HAF 912 and go for the Elite 430, it seems puts me back on budget. I am open to different cases still, though. What is the best case at this price point? I do want to try and get a Mail in Rebate/Promo Code (or just a low price!)with good cable management.

madinc
December 27th, 2012, 10:13 PM
I like the 660. Tom's Hardware shows it as very good FPS on Ultra on games. If I trim out the HAF 912 and go for the Elite 430, it seems puts me back on budget. I am open to different cases still, though. What is the best case at this price point? I do want to try and get a Mail in Rebate/Promo Code (or just a low price!)with good cable management.

at that price quality its all the same just pick the cheapest if the looks don't matter.:)

Anniemoose98
December 27th, 2012, 10:39 PM
I am ordering tonight. Thanks for all your help! I will post updates once the parts arrive and I build it.

Anniemoose98
January 5th, 2013, 01:26 PM
Hey guys...

I just wanted to thank you all for your help. I am happily typing this message on my new computer. The 660/3570k will play anything that I have thrown at it no sweat.


Thanks!

Anniemoose98