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Yumi
November 9th, 2012, 05:37 AM
Will 13.04 bring support for touch screens and tablets?

Michael

serdotlinecho
November 9th, 2012, 10:40 AM
Yes. They gonna start with Nexus 7.
https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Nexus7

Ubuntu 11.10 running on Tablet:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mfINJ39JY5k

grahammechanical
November 9th, 2012, 01:35 PM
Ubuntu already has some support for gestures:

https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Multitouch

jerrylamos
November 9th, 2012, 01:46 PM
Choices. I have both a 10.1" tablet with a real keyboard and a 10.1" netbook. The tablet is O.K. for output. Lousy and clumsy for input. Big fingers don't cut it compared to a mouse.

My personal opitnion.

So I use both. The tablet is quick for browsing. With 1.0 gHz dual processors Android absolutely blows away 1.6 gHz dual processors with Raring.

Now for doing work and imput and office and emails and managing partitions and managing digital pictures and on and on, the tablet is quite clumsy compared to ubuntu.

My concern is in morphing ubuntu into a tablet format the ease of use and functionality of the pc might be degraded....

BTW, like right now, the 10.1" netbook is being used with a 15" external monitor. I can't do that with the tablet...but of course, I'm not going to carry the 15" external monitor around.

grahammechanical
November 9th, 2012, 01:50 PM
So, the support is already there in Ubuntu but what do people want from touch screens? The eye-catching gesture stuff of a fancy picture viewer or ebook reader? Or the means to do actual work?

ronacc
November 9th, 2012, 04:33 PM
So, the support is already there in Ubuntu but what do people want from touch screens? The eye-catching gesture stuff of a fancy picture viewer or ebook reader? Or the means to do actual work?

they want both !

serdotlinecho
November 10th, 2012, 02:22 PM
click on unity launcher icons to minimize open/active apps would be more easier on tablet when you maximize.

jerrylamos
November 10th, 2012, 02:42 PM
Touch screen? I've got dozens and dozens of bookmarks. On pc screen sorted alphabetically no problem.

On touch screen with several (!) pages of big icons takes me forever to find the benchmarks, squint at the tiny text. The big pictograph icons are near meaningless to me. Maybe there's a sort on bookmarks on Android, but I haven't found it. And a way to dump the ancient Egyptian hieroglyph icons and just use human readable Phoenician alphabet bookmark labels.

Your opinion may vary....

I'm not a unity fan. I do lock my frequent applications to the (hidden) launcher, and unlock the stuff I don't use hardly. Rather qicker than chasing all over the Android screen.

Having said this, if all I'm interested in is output, Android boots from cold to internet hidden wireless WPA and all in a flash while ubuntu unity with faster hardware is still trudging along.

I do boot, do something, then if I'm doing something else I shut down. If I only booted once a day the slower ubuntu would be of no notice.

MyTinFoilHat
November 10th, 2012, 06:44 PM
So, the support is already there in Ubuntu but what do people want from touch screens? The eye-catching gesture stuff of a fancy picture viewer or ebook reader? Or the means to do actual work?

Yes. All of the above. ;)

MyTinFoilHat
November 10th, 2012, 06:48 PM
Yes. They gonna start with Nexus 7.
https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Nexus7

Ubuntu 11.10 running on Tablet:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mfINJ39JY5k

Do you happen to know if there's any thought or dicussion on expanding this pool - say, to other ASUS tablets? I've had my eye on the TF700T (or perhaps its next incarnation - something HD-quality) for my next purchase. I guess what I (and probably others) would like to know is, what should be considered in the way of hardware in order to take advantage of upcoming migrations to tablets and/or smartphones? Any ideas?

grahammechanical
November 10th, 2012, 09:34 PM
I have read through the installation instructions from here

https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Nexus7/Installation

and the section on troubleshooting the install makes me laugh. It says this:


If none of that works, ask a question on Ask Ubuntu

Logical? If you are one of the few people installing this on a Nexus 7 then who in the world knows anything at all that will help you?

so, I someone asks on this forum for help with this, you know where I am going to direct them. :)

For suggestions as regards hardware, see this:

http://www.ubuntu.com/devices/android


While mid-range phones can deliver a perfect Android experience, it takes high-end horsepower to drive a phone and a desktop at the same time. Newer multi-core processors are up to the job, and Ubuntu is the killer app for that hot hardware. It’s the must-have feature for late-2012 high-end Android phones.

It like they used to say about computers, the best one to buy is the one that comes out six months after you have brought the latest one.


Regards.

jerrylamos
November 11th, 2012, 02:14 PM
While mid-range phones can deliver a perfect Android experience, it takes high-end horsepower to drive a phone and a desktop at the same time. Newer multi-core processors are up to the job, and Ubuntu is the killer app for that hot hardware. It’s the must-have feature for late-2012 high-end Android phones.

?

I've got a dual core 1.6 gHz pc running ubuntu quantal or precise or raring or ...

I've got a dual core 1.0 gHz tablet running Android, slower hardware.

Android absolutely blows away ubuntu on internet.

Anything which is output oriented on Android is blazes faster than the same thing on ubuntu.

Now input is a whole different matter. Even though I've a keyboard on the Android, pc clearly much better.

Managing disk space, jpg's, office, etc. ubuntu I can do fine mostly. Don't know how to do with Android.

Do note I've got wireless WPA which works fine on precise but quantal and rafing prefer disconnect to connect. On every boot. NM stumbles and stutters and freezes up. Bug written. Android no problem at all. Set up once and totally transparent boot up fast! internet on instantly.

Sableyes
November 11th, 2012, 07:14 PM
Or the means to do actual work?

I see this phrase a lot here.

What is the definition of 'actual work' on Ubuntu Forums?

fjgaude
November 11th, 2012, 08:40 PM
I see this phrase a lot here.

What is the definition of 'actual work' on Ubuntu Forums?

For me its the ability to do graphic design, not anything to do with CLI stuff. I looked at Windows 8 recently and can see where Ubuntu is taking Unity... So be it!

MG&TL
November 11th, 2012, 08:47 PM
I see this phrase a lot here.

What is the definition of 'actual work' on Ubuntu Forums?

It's the value of the environment variable $OCCUPATION_OF_USER_WHO_DOES_NOT_LIKE_TOUCHSCREENS . ;)

Seriously though, it just seems to mean that tablets can't do textual/mouse input as well as desktops/laptops. While this is true, wiring up a keyboard to a tablet is IMO quite productive.

Sableyes
November 11th, 2012, 11:33 PM
I have a mouse and keyboard set up too my tablet, psted a few times in the mobile forum here. Works wonderfully well for office work on a tablet.

On graphics design, its nowhere near its desktop counterpart yet, but sketchbook mobile has come on leaps and bounds :-) (autocad makers)

jerrylamos
November 12th, 2012, 02:37 PM
It's the value of the environment variable $OCCUPATION_OF_USER_WHO_DOES_NOT_LIKE_TOUCHSCREENS . ;)

Seriously though, it just seems to mean that tablets can't do textual/mouse input as well as desktops/laptops. While this is true, wiring up a keyboard to a tablet is IMO quite productive.

Yeh, I waited on my Asus Transformer 101 until the "refurb" keyboard got down to $75. The tablet plugs into the keyboard. Claimed 16 hour battery life. However.....sure is heavy with the keyboard attached, not a problem on the desk top. Or dining room table top.

When there's good reports on the Nexus 7 ubuntu (and I have un-used $200 laying around) I might try that. Better yet would be someone figuring out how to put ubuntu onto my Asus 101 since I've already got that. Fat chance.

jerrylamos
November 12th, 2012, 02:48 PM
I see this phrase a lot here.

What is the definition of 'actual work' on Ubuntu Forums?

For me, I"m retired, family emails, letters to the editor, researching and saving health articles with graphics (I'm 77, exercise regularly, no meds, weight spot on), campaign and canvassing (I can't just scream at the TV, we do get up and go out and o something), fussing around with IRA investments and quarterly income tax, BBC news, Sydney Morning Herald (our son lives in Australia) on and on. Health stuff shows up on NEJM, Johns Hopkins, NYTimes, WebMD, medline plus, BBC, Australia ABC, all over the place. Who to believe, who not to, and I do send comments to the authors.

I'll try to do this stuff on the unstable ubuntu when it works. Just today I got a PDF on some medical test results which crashes raring document viewer, tried ubuntu-bug, that crashed, so I'll crank up 12.04.1 LTS.