View Full Version : [SOLVED] Where is the regular 64bit DVD iso?
stuartbh
November 4th, 2012, 07:01 PM
Ubuntu users:
Generally speaking when a new variant of Ubuntu is realeased I download the 64bit DVD iso either directly or via bittorrent. However, subsequent to the most recent release (12.10), I took notice of the fact that the only DVD release seems to be "UbuntuStudio Edition". I also believe (though feel free to correct me if I am wrong), that the 64bit DVD (non-studio edition) had source code on it too.
I am not using Ubuntu in a studio editing manner, and using that DVD for an upgrade or a free installation (presuming it would install a full compliment of disinteresting editing and other ancillary software on my system) is not something I stand preferential to doing. Even if an upgrade would only upgrade the software amalgam already installed, I do fresh installs for others that would stand disinterested in all the StudioEdition extras too. Can anyone tell me where the regular amd64 upgrade DVD for non-studio edition using users is located?? Moreover, if a torrent is available (instead of a link to a raw ISO), that'd be even all the more helpful.
Thanks,
Stuart
critin
November 4th, 2012, 07:47 PM
I wasn't aware that upgrade dvd's were available at any time. Guess I missed that information somehow. :(
Upgrades are available in Update Manager, but that's always an iffy project for me.
The full regular DVD downloads are all here: Torrents are there also.
http://releases.ubuntu.com/12.10/
stuartbh
November 4th, 2012, 08:37 PM
Sir,
I shall address each of the some several issues you raise, as you seem not to have fully grasped what I was asking about. I am willing to accept that perhaps I was not as narrow in my query as would be required for some respondents, thus, I shall make sure to be more so now.
I wasn't aware that upgrade dvd's were available at any time. Guess I missed that information somehow. :(
Upgrades are available in Update Manager, but that's always an iffy project for me.
Whilst it is true that Update Manager is capable of managing the downloading and installation of upgrades, when a major release comes forth it can be quite a lot of extra network traffic to download each package individually, thus, there are those of us whom stand preferential to downloading the entire DVD and doing the upgrade from the menue visible when booting off of said DVD.
Moreover, using a torrent file for the DVD means that bandwidth can be used more efficiently as one does not have the benefits of a torrent style download when doing the upgrade via Update Manager. Additionally, there is less likelihood of a network failure interrupting the upgrade and causing it to not fully complete, since torrent downloads are a more persistent manner to download with and the upgrade can be done absent the need for network connectivity (since the machine is being upgraded with the DVD files).
The full regular DVD downloads are all here: Torrents are there also.
http://releases.ubuntu.com/12.10/
With regard to the above entitled statement, you are actually (at least in the instant case), not entirely correct. Please prepare to be schooled.
If one looks at the totality of enumerated files using the link you provided, there is not a single DVD amongst them, they are all CDs. This maybe a mere detail of little concern to you, but, it does in fact go to the detail of my question and why you might have given the answer you did, which would seem (with the current list of files), inapplicable entirely.
You see if you look at the link that follows hereupon for 12.04 and the same link for 12.10, you will take notice of the conspicuous absence of a DVD variant for 12.10, something which towards the end of the files does exist for the 12.04 variant of Ubuntu. Perhaps you were unaware of its existence, however, I am, and it is what I am in search of.
http://cdimages.ubuntu.com/releases/12.04/release/
http://cdimages.ubuntu.com/releases/12.10/release/
Now I am sure you can understand the predicate to my query as to why it is absent or where it maybe located within Ubuntu's website (presuming they may have decided to place it somewhere else within their website for this release). You would be well served to also notice that the DVD version is available in the same locale going back several versions of Ubuntu too, this is not something new per se.
When Ubuntu has been released in the past, there have been CD and DVD distributions released. Currently, I do not see where the DVD version (with the word "DVD" in the filename and having a size exceeding the standard size of a CD, being in the GB, or DVD size range) is located or available.
I do hope that this clarifies and makes easier your ability to appreciate the specificity of my query.
Thanks,
Stuart
Old_Grey_Wolf
November 4th, 2012, 09:09 PM
If you look at the size of the image for Ubuntu 12.10, it is larger than 700MB. The days of the CD ended with Ubuntu 12.10. Maybe they aren't making a separate DVD image as big as you are accustom.
Edit: I found this... It’s Official: The Ubuntu LiveCD is Dead (http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2012/09/its-official-the-ubuntu-livecd-is-dead) Please read the article as it also addresses the DVD version.
After re-reading critin's post, that may have been what he/she was referring to.
grahammechanical
November 4th, 2012, 10:02 PM
This will give you a DVD image for Precise:
http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/precise/dvd/current/
And it is not for Ubuntu studio. Which does not, it seems, have the desktop image (correct name for CD image) because Ubuntu studio brings in many more applications to complete its specialist purpose.
I cannot find a DVD edition for Ubuntu 12.10. So, perhaps the DVD image for standard Ubuntu (12.10) has been discontinued as surplus to requirements. Any additional applications can be downloaded from the Software Centre. The alternate images, also, have been discontinued from 12.10 onwards. It seems that producing so many images is taking up a lot of time that can be better spent doing other things.
Regards.
darkod
November 4th, 2012, 10:08 PM
Or the DVD is simply not out yet since the OS is barely two weeks old. I never looked into DVDs so I don't know if they trail the release date and by how long.
stuartbh
November 4th, 2012, 10:56 PM
If you look at the size of the image for Ubuntu 12.10, it is larger than 700MB. The days of the CD ended with Ubuntu 12.10. Maybe they aren't making a separate DVD image as big as you are accustom.
Edit: I found this... It’s Official: The Ubuntu LiveCD is Dead (http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2012/09/its-official-the-ubuntu-livecd-is-dead) Please read the article as it also addresses the DVD version.
After re-reading critin's post, that may have been what he/she was referring to.
Ubuntu Users:
Let me initiate my commentary by setting forth that I read the totality of the treatise you referenced and moreover admit that I had no idea that the DVD variant of Ubuntu was now going to be considered deprecated and otherwise superfluous, thus, I now realize why its existence is vacuous.
With regard to all major upgrades that I have performed on Ubuntu desktop instantiations that I oversee the management of, I have always felt that DVDs were cheap and plentiful enough so as to cause me to dismiss any reason why simply downloading a DVD image and burning it off and booting it up to enunciate an upgrade was devoid of practicality. However, the foregoing notwithstanding, I find it thoroughly difficult to even imagine any reason why a 1GB or 2GB thumb drive would be impractical to obtain, prepare, or use for just such an endeavor. As a matter of fact, this may just impel to me to feel I now have a new purpose for some olde "useless" 1GB and 2GB thumb drives I had no longer seen reason to carry about on my person. Realistically, USB thumb drives are now extremely cheap and readily available from non-IT related stores (I saw one for $10 at CVS Pharmacy the other day for crying out loud)! Having a USB bootable install mechanism is an equitably utilitarian and functional manner by which to conduct such an upgrade vice having done it with a DVD burned to appropriate media.
I do apologize for not realizing that the "CD images" were really DVD images and just modestly greater in size than a standard CD would be.
Thank you to everyone that took the time to reply and provision their guidance with regard to the instant issue, I now consider it resolved and shall mark the thread accordingly.
Very Respectfully Submitted,
Stuart
critin
November 5th, 2012, 03:51 AM
BY ME: I wasn't aware that upgrade dvd's were available at any time. Guess I missed that information somehow. :sad:
To explain my answer.
I understood your use of 'upgrade' dvd to mean you did not want an install dvd. I was not aware of a cd or dvd that upgrades while leaving your items intact, such as the upgrade manager will. My misunderstanding of your application of the word 'upgrade' is unforgivable. My intent was to try to help--sorry I didn't. Thank you so much for the lesson.
I also erroneously thought you would know where/how to find the new release downloads, which only reinforced my assumption that you were speaking of an actual upgrade.
Good luck!!
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