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joflow
February 8th, 2006, 07:08 PM
http://www.boingboing.net/2006/02/08/songbird_the_open_so.html

Songbird, the "open source iTunes killer," flies today

Update: The Songbird site is overloaded right now, but here's a download mirror, and another. Some discussion on this digg thread.

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A team led by ex-Winamp-er Rob Lord today released a preview edition of Songbird, a desktop media player that offers an open source alternative to services like Apple's iTunes and the Windows Media Player. Instead of connecting to one locked store full of DRMmed goods, it can connect to any and all available music (and video) on the internet.

Code brains behind the project include people who helped build Winamp, Muse, Yahoo's "Y! Music Engine" media player, and developers from Mozilla Foundation. Initial release is for Windows only, with editions for other OSes to follow in the coming weeks.

Built on the same platform as Firefox, Songbird acts like a specialized web browser for music. It sees the online world through MP3-colored glasses -- it looks at an archive of public domain sound files or a music store's catalog, and displays available media for you.

I spoke with Rob Lord earlier today by phone about the preview release. Screenshots and interview after the jump.

BB: So why did you guys build this?
RL: People should have more choice about music and video formats, and where they get their music. Imagine what your experience of the web wold be like if IE connected only to microsoft.com. That's what digital networked media players are like today. Fairplay [Ed. Note: Apple's proprietary DRM] is the 8-track of our generation, and those formats may become obsolete a lot sooner than people using those services realize. Songbird can connect to any a la carte media store -- downloadable music, radio, video, P2P networks, and classes of services that haven't been created yet. Services like iTunes -- where everybody has to shop from the same store -- are like walled garden online services back in the early days. AOL, Prodigy. That's how we connected to the 'net then. Songbird is to iTunes what the Firefox browser is to those old, limiting online services. It opens up the whole internet to you as a music browsing experience.

BB: Should the RIAA be worried about you?
RL: As we say in our FAQ, "We don't steal music and you shouldn't either. We support DigitalConsumer.org's Bill of Rights as the best means to a burgeoning, diverse and lawful digital media market."

BB: Who funded the project, and how will you make money in the future?
RL: I provided the funding. I think we're going to put a "donate" button on the site. And we're going to sell t-shirts, and maybe some songbird-shaped fuzzy holders for digital music players.

BB: Apart from the ability to connect to lots of different sources, what will Songbird do differently?
RL: The opportunity to innovate is stymied by architecture. All of the popular media players out there have pretty much the same feature set on the desktop -- when you leave aside what's possible when you connect to the internet, they all do pretty much the same thing these days. Rip, mix, burn, play, organize playlists. But plug them in to the internet, and there's so much more they could be doing. The possibilities for networked services are totally untapped. For instance, [Winamp co-creator] Justin Frankel created a collaborative jamming service, and you can't do that inside any commercial media player now. You'll be able to do those kinds of things inside Songbird.

BB: Why does the ability to obtain music from multiple stores or sources online matter?
RL: Why wouldn't you buy your bluegrass in one place and your trance music in another? Why shouldn't there be music communities like lastfm and others that focus on specific niches? Even if you could buy all your music in one place, like Wal-Mart, would you want to? Maybe the experience would be better if you could connect to lots of different places, and communities, and social networks.

BB: What's in it for those providers?
RL: It's an open format, so they can do deep integration into our player, and reach new audiences. We built Songbird on the Mozilla Foundation's XULRunner platform, which is also used by Firefox and the Thunderbird email client. Firefox is very widely used now, there are 400 extensions, everybody knows it's as much of a movement as a piece of software. The difference between the Firefox and Internet Explorer browsers is substantial, but it's nothing like the difference between iTunes or Windows Music and Songbird.

BB: Songbird's logo is a cute, rotund, whistling birdie -- but what's up with that puff of gas coming out of his posterior? Is your mascot farting?
RL: Sorry, bad reception (SSSHHCSRRGRRR CRACKLE)

Rackerz
February 8th, 2006, 08:11 PM
I'm gonna try this now, WMP look-a-like so I'm giving it a go! Can't be all that bad can it? I'll post back.

Derek Djons
February 8th, 2006, 08:14 PM
Can't wait till it or something similar will be available for Linux.

Sirin
February 8th, 2006, 08:15 PM
AT LAST! Something with a music store! :p

commodore
February 8th, 2006, 08:35 PM
The first release was Windows only so I assume that this is mainly a Windows app? I will still use GNU/Linux apps to support GNU/Linux.

xequence
February 8th, 2006, 08:56 PM
The first release was Windows only so I assume that this is mainly a Windows app? I will still use GNU/Linux apps to support GNU/Linux.

Consider the fact that they want to work on making it good at first, then they will take the time to port to other OSes.

dabear
February 8th, 2006, 09:20 PM
ah.. **** :( It wouldn't run in wine, even after adding the missing dlls

xequence
February 8th, 2006, 09:42 PM
Ill install it and tell you guys if it is good or not :P

Oh, and commodore, it says when I install it:


This binary is licensed to you under the GNU General Public License Version 2 as
follows:

GNU GENERAL PUBLIC LICENSE
Version 2, June 1991

Installed it...

And you think you have problems getting DLLs in wine? It wouldent start in windows because it needs a certain DLL.

Kerberos
February 9th, 2006, 11:05 AM
Surely to be an iTunes 'killer' it'll have to be better than iTunes? It looks like an exact clone to me from the screenshots. Innovative. :D

xequence
February 9th, 2006, 03:04 PM
Surely to be an iTunes 'killer' it'll have to be better than iTunes? It looks like an exact clone to me from the screenshots. Innovative. :D

It will be an iTunes killer if it can accually use less resources then that beast of a RAM/CPU eater that is iTunes.

joflow
February 9th, 2006, 06:40 PM
Surely to be an iTunes 'killer' it'll have to be better than iTunes? It looks like an exact clone to me from the screenshots. Innovative. :D

I'm not sure exactly how this thing works but I think the idea is iTunes with access to all the music stores on the net. So basically, not being restricted to iTunes Music Store.

I'm not sure if thats innovative or not since I dont use itunes music store (or any music store for that matter).

Honestly, I prefer winamp 5 to itunes on windows any day of the week. I dont even like itunes but the prospect of a good media player with good gnome support (Amarok has some small issues running on gnome on my machine, and I haven't tried listen yet) is what really excites me.

Another player that excites me is wxMusik, the linux screenshot looks really good.

http://musik.berlios.de/?id=acreenshots&PHPSESSID=d0f328f4858f9e47b03ef36a22ac514d

Sirin
March 3rd, 2006, 06:47 AM
Still no "find-as-you-type" search feature as in iTunes. :(

aysiu
March 3rd, 2006, 07:04 AM
I tried it on the Windows portion of my dual-boot, and I don't see what's so great about it. It looks slick, but the interface isn't that intuitive.

Of course, it's still in version 0.1. We'll see what happens later...

Bandit
March 3rd, 2006, 07:17 AM
Looks like Rhythmbox, well what Rhythmbox should look like by now.. But still really very simmular...

it_self
May 5th, 2006, 03:35 PM
I'm actually very excited about this program. Granted, the interface basically looks just like itunes, but it's open sourse. That's what gets me. I would love to have similar media player on both my OSs. Once they pan out a few of the kinks, it very well could be an iTunes-killer

MetalMusicAddict
May 5th, 2006, 03:47 PM
Everyone complaining about the UI should read up. Its a skin. It can be changed. Doesnt have to look like iTunes. Its still very early. ;)

This and Listen have me very excited about music playback on linux. Heres hoping Songbird and Listen support libvisual (http://localhost.nl/~synap/libvisual/). Visualizations is the one thing I miss about Winamp.

RAV TUX
June 28th, 2006, 06:39 AM
I know there have been past post about Songbird coming, well Songbird is
available now.

http://www.songbirdnest.com/home

Nightly Builds (http://publicsvn.songbirdnest.com/nightlies) ¶ (http://publicsvn.songbirdnest.com/trac/wiki/Nightly_Builds#NightlyBuilds)

Nightly builds aren't built nightly, at the moment. We're still assembling our build farm. Till then, we push them by hand and make comments about them, below.


Linux
Linux (fc5) .tar.gz file (http://developer.songbirdnest.com/nightly/builds/linux/Songbird_20060626_202750_FC5.tar.gz)Bugzilla (http://bugzilla.songbirdnest.com/) ¶ (http://publicsvn.songbirdnest.com/trac/wiki/Nightly_Builds#Bugzilla)

Found a bug already? Go look on our Bugzilla (http://bugzilla.songbirdnest.com/) site to see if someone has posted it already. If not, make a new bug and we'll get right on it.
Release Notes (http://www.songbirdnest.com/nightlies/releasenotes) ¶ (http://publicsvn.songbirdnest.com/trac/wiki/Nightly_Builds#ReleaseNotes)
Songbird not-yet-0.2 (http://publicsvn.songbirdnest.com/trac/wiki/ReleaseNotes_02ny20060626) (2006.06.26)This is how far I have gotten on loading Songbird If anybody else here can help in setting it up please let me know:


http://img422.imageshack.us/img422/5836/songbird6gw.th.jpg (http://img422.imageshack.us/my.php?image=songbird6gw.jpg)

aysiu
June 28th, 2006, 06:47 AM
Just in case anyone's curious, that .tar.gz is about 17 MB. I stopped it because I'm not that interested in installing Songbird.

RAV TUX
June 28th, 2006, 06:52 AM
I know there have been past post about Songbird coming, well Songbird is
available now!

http://www.songbirdnest.com/home

Nightly Builds (http://publicsvn.songbirdnest.com/nightlies) ¶ (http://publicsvn.songbirdnest.com/trac/wiki/Nightly_Builds#NightlyBuilds)

Nightly builds aren't built nightly, at the moment. We're still assembling our build farm. Till then, we push them by hand and make comments about them, below.


Linux
Linux (fc5) .tar.gz file (http://developer.songbirdnest.com/nightly/builds/linux/Songbird_20060626_202750_FC5.tar.gz)Bugzilla (http://bugzilla.songbirdnest.com/) ¶ (http://publicsvn.songbirdnest.com/trac/wiki/Nightly_Builds#Bugzilla)

Found a bug already? Go look on our Bugzilla (http://bugzilla.songbirdnest.com/) site to see if someone has posted it already. If not, make a new bug and we'll get right on it.
Release Notes (http://www.songbirdnest.com/nightlies/releasenotes) ¶ (http://publicsvn.songbirdnest.com/trac/wiki/Nightly_Builds#ReleaseNotes)
Songbird not-yet-0.2 (http://publicsvn.songbirdnest.com/trac/wiki/ReleaseNotes_02ny20060626) (2006.06.26)This is how far I have gotten on loading Songbird If anybody else here can help in setting it up please let me know:


http://img422.imageshack.us/img422/5836/songbird6gw.th.jpg (http://img422.imageshack.us/my.php?image=songbird6gw.jpg)



I got Songbird working on Ubuntu 6.06.


http://img77.imageshack.us/img77/8007/songbirdscreenshot5vo.th.jpg (http://img77.imageshack.us/my.php?image=songbirdscreenshot5vo.jpg)

RAV TUX
June 28th, 2006, 07:19 AM
keep it mind that this is not a stable release:


http://www.songbirdnest.com/blog

Linux stability in the works (http://www.songbirdnest.com/node/531)

Submitted by redfive on Tue, 06/27/2006 - 9:06pm.
I've just posted a patch over there: http://bugzilla.songbirdnest.com/show_bug.cgi?id=188 that is drastically improving my stability on FC5. It's a big change to a core piece of our functionality and I'm having some of the rest of the team take a hammer to it for a bit before I land it.
If you are crashing all over the place ( particularly with JS_GC in your stack ) and are inclined to applying a patch, or are just one of those helpful people who like to test patches, throw that patch at your Bird and comment in the bug if you see improvements/regressions etc.
I should be landing it Wed afternoon.



Remember file bug reports if you find any and another word of advice when doing the install select the custom build option.

bionnaki
June 28th, 2006, 07:19 AM
how about instructions on installing this...? I'd like to try it but I suck at compiling.

RAV TUX
June 28th, 2006, 07:36 AM
how about instructions on installing this...? I'd like to try it but I suck at compiling.
I'm not that great either, That is why I was hoping that one of the more experience Ubuntu users who are known for excellent help would pick up on this, if for no other reason then to help thier fellow Ubuntu users out.

I am not even sure how to load a tar file but this is what I did, I clicked on the link:

Linux (fc5) .tar.gz file (http://developer.songbirdnest.com/nightly/builds/linux/Songbird_20060626_202750_FC5.tar.gz)

selected "save to disk"

Then I right-clicked on the "Songbird Tar.gz" file icon and selected "open with Archive Manager"

Then once that opened up I "extracted" the file

after that I right-clicked and opened the Songbird file

from here I right-clicked and opened the Blue diamond shaped icon labeled Songbird

your download should start after that:

http://img422.imageshack.us/img422/5836/songbird6gw.th.jpg (http://img422.imageshack.us/my.php?image=songbird6gw.jpg)

it should look like the above screenshot

Here is where it is a bit tricky

select "custom build"

there are 2 options for extensions

select them both

1 for me didn't load

but it still functions fine

The load toke about 20 to 40 seconds but remember I am on a very old computer about 1998(old compaq)

I am not sure how to create a icon for songbird so I just drug the blue diamond shaped songbird icon out on my desktop this works great to start Songbird

now this is how I got it working but I still consider myself new to linux so I hope someone here with more experience may give us some clues to make this easier.

Overall the install was easy.

Again, here is Songbird on my Ubuntu:
http://img77.imageshack.us/img77/8007/songbirdscreenshot5vo.th.jpg (http://img77.imageshack.us/my.php?image=songbirdscreenshot5vo.jpg)


Good Luck

<jozef>

playmobiel
June 28th, 2006, 10:00 AM
extract it to /opt/songbird and create a desktop icon

RAV TUX
June 28th, 2006, 01:30 PM
extract it to /opt/songbird and create a desktop icon

Thanks for the help.

%hMa@?b<C
June 28th, 2006, 02:26 PM
just wondering, does it have ipod support?

zenwhen
June 28th, 2006, 04:44 PM
Won't play a song on my machine. I'll be filing a bug report later. I don't know if I would go hailing a really unstable crashy alpha "the best media player on Linux" yet, yozef. You are coming off like an advertisement.

bruce89
June 28th, 2006, 05:55 PM
Yikes, yet another media player, if development consentrated on a smaller number of things, they would be a lot better by now.

Of course, you can argue that choice is brilliant, and yes it is, but too much choice is distracting.

Anyway, I don't like the theme, as it doesn't tie in with everything else.

ELD
June 28th, 2006, 06:06 PM
I would put it more as a "Promising/Interesting Media Player"

Although i don't like the idea that it uses flash...and a menu has slipped off screen for no apparent reason

RAV TUX
June 29th, 2006, 02:28 AM
Won't play a song on my machine. I'll be filing a bug report later. I don't know if I would go hailing a really unstable crashy alpha "the best media player on Linux" yet, yozef. You are coming off like an advertisement.
My apologies, it is a bit buggy. I had high hopes for it but for now I will stick with:

Quark Music Player

&

Mozilla Firefox

I do wish the Songbird people best of luck for a worthy endeavor.

PS: I edited may past post appropiately.

doclivingston
June 29th, 2006, 03:52 AM
Although i don't like the idea that it uses flash

IMHO this is a very odd decision, given how bad Flash support is on Linux - even more so because it uses VLC on the Windows and Mac platforms.


Some of the screenshots look cool, but I'm nto sure how usable the current versions are.

H.E. Pennypacker
June 29th, 2006, 04:40 AM
I am very excited about what Songbird could become some day. It is indeed very promising, and I believe it will have a lot to offer. In fact, I am willing to say it will become the best media player in Linux.

I don't understand those people who don't like its appearance. It looks great, but I am sure it will offer themes one day, if it doesn't already.



Of course, you can argue that choice is brilliant, and yes it is, but too much choice is distracting.

I don't believe in too many choices, and in many ways, people should be restricted in what they can't do, on the computer and in real life. That's my attitude when it comes to life, and the same goes for how you use your computer. In this case, however, Songbird is doing something I haven't seen any other media player do including Windows applications. Songbird functions much like a web browser, but instead of it being intended for the use of browsing the Internet, its supposed to allow a user to enjoy multimedia on the Internet.

If you want to play some music while browsing the web using Firefox, without the use of plug-ins (extensions), you have to use an external media player. The same goes for other browsers. With Songbird, you can click on a file, and it will immediately play the file, without having to switch windows or doing anything bothersome. Also, it has a search feature so that finding music (or other audio) is much easier.

Like I said, its promising, and bug-reporting is welcome, but please don't share negativity. Negativity does not help anyone, while constructive criticism fuels innovation. I am doing my part by reporting some of Songbird's faults. Do the same, and it may very well turn out to be an application you like.



IMHO this is a very odd decision, given how bad Flash support is on Linux - even more so because it uses VLC on the Windows and Mac platforms.

We're one version of Flash behind Windows! How is that so bad? Shortly, we'll actually be ahead of Windows, when Flash 8.5 comes out. By the way, I believe Songbird is written in XML, so what's the Flash talk about?

doclivingston
June 29th, 2006, 05:27 AM
By the way, I believe Songbird is written in XML, so what's the Flash talk about?

According to the Songbird site, the Linux version uses Flash as it's playback engine, with the Mac OS and Windows versions using VLC.



We're one version of Flash behind Windows! How is that so bad? Shortly, we'll actually be ahead of Windows, when Flash 8.5 comes out.

If you're on 32bit x86 Linux, with a computer where it actually works, nothing. However if you are on a different architecture (e.g. 64 bit x86[0], or PPC), or if it refuses to work on your computer (like mine), you're out of luck as you can't get an official Macromedia version, and the open-source versions generally suck and don't support a lot of things.

I understand that Flash does work for a lot of people, but found it odd that they make the Linux port use that, instead of just using VLC like they do for Windows/MacOS.


[0] Yes, you can use a 32 bit chroot on 63bit x86 systems, but it's not trivial to set up

carl13
June 29th, 2006, 05:46 AM
works great in windows, have not tried it in linux yet
this is the best media player for windows that i have seen

edit: ok its a little buggy and just crashed

ELD
June 29th, 2006, 09:38 AM
We're one version of Flash behind Windows! How is that so bad? Shortly, we'll actually be ahead of Windows, when Flash 8.5 comes out. By the way, I believe Songbird is written in XML, so what's the Flash talk about?

You need to keep up with the times.
We have version 7 and arn't getting a version till 9, and it will be a long while after windows and mac get 9 as well.

RAV TUX
June 30th, 2006, 05:53 AM
According to the Songbird site, the Linux version uses Flash as it's playback engine, with the Mac OS and Windows versions using VLC.




If you're on 32bit x86 Linux, with a computer where it actually works, nothing. However if you are on a different architecture (e.g. 64 bit x86[0], or PPC), or if it refuses to work on your computer (like mine), you're out of luck as you can't get an official Macromedia version, and the open-source versions generally suck and don't support a lot of things.

I understand that Flash does work for a lot of people, but found it odd that they make the Linux port use that, instead of just using VLC like they do for Windows/MacOS.


[0] Yes, you can use a 32 bit chroot on 63bit x86 systems, but it's not trivial to set up


remember this player is still a proof-concept, not officially released.

can you get the windows version of the player working with WINE on Ubuntu?

stairwayoflight
August 6th, 2006, 08:48 PM
shopping for music online has been a ball-and-chain experience. i actually havn't bought certain things because i couldnt' get lossless (eg flac).

maybe this will get the ball of innovation rolling; competition is good right? it will be interesting to see if moves like this will increase the purchase of online music.

i personally don't use p2p for music unless its for a party or something. party's over, the cd gets chucked. if i get music i really like and want, then i buy it. i can't stand lossy formats. (i have 3 mp3 players and they are unused, except for voice recording, listening to talks, etc.)

but p2p isn't considered illegal distribution here in canada.

TravisNewman
August 6th, 2006, 08:57 PM
FYI, you can get Linux binaries:
http://publicsvn.songbirdnest.com/trac/wiki/Nightly_Builds

Polygon
August 6th, 2006, 09:28 PM
it looks really cool, i cant wait until a stable linux version comes out.

Zerocool10482
August 6th, 2006, 10:02 PM
Can anyone tell me how to install this. Or should I wait?

G Morgan
August 6th, 2006, 10:06 PM
The first release was Windows only so I assume that this is mainly a Windows app? I will still use GNU/Linux apps to support GNU/Linux.

Don't understand that comment. It's OSS and is even GPL. Unless you consider Linux itself to be more important than OSS. It's only a matter of time until it gets ported. Even if they don't do it someone will.

As for the idea of getting it right and then porting. The key metric for OSS should be portable code first so that you maximise the number of people who will develop it.

aysiu
August 6th, 2006, 10:20 PM
It's already been ported to Linux in the form of nightly builds--one's specifically for Dapper:
http://publicsvn.songbirdnest.com/trac/wiki/Nightly_Builds

Terracotta
August 6th, 2006, 10:51 PM
mhm I wonder what's gonna be first, Amarok having a similar "shop" feature, or Songbird with an amarok-look skin, would prefer the former, I'm really not that fond of this iTunes look and feel alike seems like almost all players adopt it.

Mathias-K
August 6th, 2006, 11:24 PM
You would still have to compile it in the command line? Am i getting this right?

It would be nice if someone made a .deb :)

3rdalbum
August 7th, 2006, 04:11 AM
You would still have to compile it in the command line? Am i getting this right?

It would be nice if someone made a .deb :)

Maybe you have to compile the nightly-builds in the command-line, but I downloaded the beta of version 0.2 and it had a binary installer. Or maybe it was a binary installer that I needed to compile, I don't remember exactly.

Note that you can run the Windows version of Songbird on WINE, if the Linux one is too buggy.

Mathias-K
August 7th, 2006, 07:09 PM
Maybe you have to compile the nightly-builds in the command-line, but I downloaded the beta of version 0.2 and it had a binary installer. Or maybe it was a binary installer that I needed to compile, I don't remember exactly.

Note that you can run the Windows version of Songbird on WINE, if the Linux one is too buggy.

Well I think a lot of users experience problems trying to compile things. So I was just wondering if someone way more tech-savvy than me had made a deb.

ubuntu_demon
August 8th, 2006, 03:06 AM
Let’s hope it will become a true open source iTunes killer :) .

To digg this story :
http://digg.com/software/Songbird,_the_open_source_iTunes_killer,_flies_tod ay_

I added this story to my blog :
http://ubuntudemon.wordpress.com/2006/08/08/will-songbird-be-the-open-source-itunes-killer/

hanzomon4
August 8th, 2006, 10:01 AM
Well I think a lot of users experience problems trying to compile things. So I was just wondering if someone way more tech-savvy than me had made a deb.

Songbird does not use the usual "./configure" "make" "sudo checkinstall" so I'm not sure if you can make a deb.

But I'll post how I built it.
Start by getting build-essential and svn

sudo apt-get install build-essential subversion libsvn0

Now to the app.
First you need to download the source from svn

svn co svn://publicsvn.songbirdnest.com/songbird/client/trunk songbird

When thats done cd to the songbird/dependencies dir.

cd songbird/dependencies

Next you need to download the dependencies

svn co svn://publicsvn.songbirdnest.com/songbird/client/vendor-binaries/linux

When this is done (it may take awhile) you need to cd to the songbird dir

cd ../

Last step is to run the make file.. like so

make -f songbird.mk

After thats done cd to compiled/dist

cd compiled/dist

Now just run program like so

./Songbird

If anybody knows how to checkinstall this or roll a deb fill me in. I would be glad to make one and post it. ;)

hizaguchi
August 8th, 2006, 02:02 PM
I've got it on my Windows and I like it quite a bit. Still really early, but I'm a fan. Who doesn't want a music player with Firefox built-in? I can surf the internet and play music with one app now. :)

bjweeks
August 8th, 2006, 02:05 PM
I'm going to kill the next "Bla Killer". Oh and still waiting on that "iPod Killer" Microsoft :rolleyes:

G Morgan
August 8th, 2006, 08:44 PM
I've got it on my Windows and I like it quite a bit. Still really early, but I'm a fan. Who doesn't want a music player with Firefox built-in? I can surf the internet and play music with one app now. :)

Play music and push memory prices up at the same time ;).

hizaguchi
August 9th, 2006, 03:23 PM
Play music and push memory prices up at the same time ;).
Yeah, and because of that whole memory issue I'm still torn on it. It is the nicest looking iTunes ripoff yet, and I like that it is focused on online music, but Foobar is just so sleek and fast.

Kayne
August 9th, 2006, 04:29 PM
Way to go, Songbird! It scanned my entire Music Folder within seconds (Banshee: One and half an hour, with 2 crashes)
If Songbird now offers a Cover Art Plugin, I'm sold.

cosly
August 9th, 2006, 04:41 PM
This is SO cool! It makes play list of all mp3's available on a website! This looks promising for the future. Thanks for makingin this worldknown...

RAV TUX
August 9th, 2006, 11:36 PM
threads merged:

http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=127220
http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=205153

flaak_monkey
August 10th, 2006, 12:23 AM
the diffence between this and whats already out for Linux (besides it being a exact replica of iTunes) is...... ill stick with banshee.

Brokenrgv
August 11th, 2006, 09:02 AM
im getting this error for some reason after following the steps from hanzoman4 on page5, just a heads up as well before you start it worked out to about 270 meg to dl all that dependencies something i would have like to know before starting as im close to being capped on my plan, thanks for any help.

joe@joe-desktop:~/songbird$ make -f songbird.mk
Songbird Web Player v0.2
cd /home/joe/songbird && autoconf && rm -rf /home/joe/songbird/autom4te.cache/
/bin/sh: autoconf: command not found
make: *** [/home/joe/songbird/configure] Error 127

plb
August 17th, 2006, 07:49 PM
just tried a nightly.....works great and I love it.

Donshyoku
August 18th, 2006, 02:42 AM
I downloaded the nightly and just run it from the executable icon... can I install it or does this do just as well?

I want to add it to my menu or at least a shortcut on the panel, but don't know how. Any idea?

dosed150
August 19th, 2006, 01:45 AM
i was wondering the same when i close it how do i open it again?

RavenOfOdin
August 19th, 2006, 03:07 AM
I wonder if this can be downloaded/installed on PPC.

plb
August 19th, 2006, 04:44 AM
Just download a nightly build and run it from within the directory.......no need to compile.

Donshyoku
August 19th, 2006, 06:33 AM
Cool, cool... that is how I have been running it.

However, I am getting major instability. It crashes out when I switch a song and sometimes crashes immediately upon opening. The small glimpse of it that I did get is quite beautiful... I am looking forward to further developments!