Stallman and Disney

[matt_symes]

http://news.efytimes.com/e1/89365/Stallman-Says-Disney-Is-Attacking-Free-Software-With-False-Claims

Please keep the thread within the CoC.

[MadmanRB]

I would more blame the writer of the show, as usually writers have no idea what the hell they are talking about when dealing with Computers.
To them computers are still a box full of magic that opens things up on a screen just so you can download porn.

[rudeboyskunk]

This show looks pretty lame anyway, even for a kids' show. I think kids these days are pretty smart, and won't be as easily influenced as my generation was by what they see on TV.

[Grenage]

I'm not sure what's worse, that anyone would get worked up over this, or that Stallman was watching 'Shake It Up'.

[BigSilly]

Disney...urrgh.

[KiwiNZ]

Sitcoms poke fun at just about everything, they are sitcoms. Talk about being over sensitive and precious.

[mips]

Can't open the link over here but anybody that eats stuff off his feet I don't pay to much attention to.

[forrestcupp]

My opinion is that only open source/free software affecionados will be affected by this at all.

It wasn't any kind of propaganda. These idiot writers don't have a clue what they're really saying, and they just throw out "techy" sounding words that the average person thinks that whoever says them is smart. It's kind of like the famous CSI episode (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hkDD03yeLnU) where she said, "I'll create a GUI interface using Visual Basic to see if I can track an IP address. :D

[Ji Ruo]

sif the 6-14 y.o. hackers are watching Disney... lol

[Primefalcon]

I thought Stally boy had made a big deal about Free Software != Open Source and that it's a whole separate thing.....

[sffvba[e0rt]

Irony is Walt Disney is pretty committed to open source - http://www.thepowerbase.com/2012/08/walt-disneys-real-commitment-to-open-source/


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[zombifier25]

http://www.cracked.com/article_19160_8-scenes-that-prove-hollywood-doesnt-get-technology.html

I'm not surprised.

[Lars Noodén]

http://www.cracked.com/article_19160_8-scenes-that-prove-hollywood-doesnt-get-technology.html

I'm not surprised.

It's also old news:

http://techcrunch.com/2012/08/19/disney-adds-a-bit-of-nonsensical-anti-open-source-fud-to-kids-sitcom/
http://www.thepowerbase.com/2012/08/resistance-is-futile-disneys-open-source-brainwashing/

Other sites even picked it up about a week ago.

That said, there is a disconnect between the MS-influenced script writers and what actually goes on at Disney. Behind the scenes, Disney is a huge user of Free and Open Source Software.

http://linux.slashdot.org/story/05/07/27/1551250/disney-dreamworks-pixar-go-linux
http://www.nytimes.com/2002/06/18/technology/18LINU.html
http://www.eweek.com/c/a/Linux-and-Open-Source/Penguin-Moves-to-Disney/

[alexfish]

You have to do it this way,

but I am not going tell how or why , because it is the correct way , says them.

logic , and logical reasoning is different , let them get on with it , that would be logic, or the logical thing to do.):P

[yeehi]

It's kind of like the famous CSI episode (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hkDD03yeLnU) where she said, "I'll create a GUI interface using Visual Basic to see if I can track an IP address. :D

LOL! :)

Nice one. Hehe!

[codemaniac]

If you dont trust the code , just have a peek .Nothing is HIDDEN . :)

[kurt18947]

I would more blame the writer of the show, as usually writers have no idea what the hell they are talking about when dealing with Computers.
To them computers are still a box full of magic that opens things up on a screen just so you can download porn.

:lolflag: That is SO true of about 97% of the U.S. population.

[forrestcupp]

I thought Stally boy had made a big deal about Free Software != Open Source and that it's a whole separate thing.....

That's exactly what I was thinking. He should be happy that they were trashing "open source" instead of "free software".

[Dragonbite]

Kid almost looked like a little Bill Gates wannabe. Maybe that's why the "dig". Does he have a friend that looks like a monkey and throws chairs? :lolflag:

[MadmanRB]

:lolflag: That is SO true of about 97% of the U.S. population.

Actually that is more like the worlds population.
Also fellow Pennsylvanian! High 5!

[ratcheer]

Disney...urrgh.

You may be correct, but Disney is the 10,000 pound gorilla in the entertainment industry today. Besides their easily identifiable presence, they own the ABC network, ESPN, and Touchstone movies. I am sure they own even much more than these.

So what Disney does carries major weight.

As to the issue itself, my feeling is that someone higher up the chain instructed (ordered) the writers to work it into the show. I.e., it was planned propaganda and it deserves the attention it is getting.

Tim

[BigSilly]

You may be correct, but Disney is the 10,000 pound gorilla in the entertainment industry today. Besides their easily identifiable presence, they own the ABC network, ESPN, and Touchstone movies. I am sure they own even much more than these.

So what Disney does carries major weight.

As to the issue itself, my feeling is that someone higher up the chain instructed (ordered) the writers to work it into the show. I.e., it was planned propaganda and it deserves the attention it is getting.

Tim

Oh yeah. But, urrgh. I don't like them and anything they do. When you've read about them forcing children's hospitals to remove Disney images from their walls, such as Mickey etc, it leaves a nasty taste in the mouth. We need to look at how we empower these companies to be able to do things like this.

[ratcheer]

Oh yeah. But, urrgh. I don't like them and anything they do. When you've read about them forcing children's hospitals to remove Disney images from their walls, such as Mickey etc, it leaves a nasty taste in the mouth. We need to look at how we empower these companies to be able to do things like this.

I agree. Like most media companies, they are bullies when it comes to copyright enforcement. This is even more of a reason why the issue at hand is important, and not an overblown reaction by the open source proponents.

Too many huge corporations have too much power over us in many ways. Big banks. Big food producers. Big oil. Big mining companies. Etc, etc.

We are losing our freedom and we need to try to defend it. That is my main point. I do not disagree with your point.

Tim

[forrestcupp]

Kid almost looked like a little Bill Gates wannabe. Maybe that's why the "dig". Does he have a friend that looks like a monkey and throws chairs? :lolflag:

:lol:

[KiwiNZ]

This thread and Stallmans reaction is rediculous, 99% of comedy shows make fun out of someone, some group,something or some place.

If one cannot laugh at ones self you have the problem. Also any coverage is good advertising.

[zenlunatic]

As reliant as Disney is on technology, I don't see this as some sort of underlying attack. I'm not saying Disney are saints, but it would be evidently suicidal for them to launch any sort of targeted eradication of FOSS. Any court case would be thrown out immediately considering their use of that which they would be attacking.

I blame bad writers. Understanding FOSS and the politics of code is not something most people are aware of, no matter how many people on reddit claim to understand. I don't think they are obligated to be informed when writing a show. TV is not a peer-reviewed or deep medium, and it can even be argued TV is deliberately dumbed-down, which is fine by me, because people need to realize this and move on in their pursuit for truth.

[papibe]

<joke to lighten the mood>

Not all sitcoms get it wrong ;): Oh, Ubuntu! (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X_mzgdQGwY4).

</joke to lighten the mood>

[KiwiNZ]

These are prescribed, take as directed.

[zombifier25]

I don't have any problems with them making fun of open source, I have problems with them trying to be smart about something they obviously don't know about, like the infamous scene in CSI: New York which can be summaried with "Existing IP trackers are so lame we have to write one ourself using the worst possible programming language we can think of.", and much more examples in the link I posted.

[forrestcupp]

The other day I ran into someone who was negatively implying that the FOSS community doesn't have any issue with pirating software. I had to tell him that most of the FOSS community is actually anti-pirating. That's why we use FOSS!


<joke to lighten the mood>

Not all sitcoms get it wrong ;): Oh, Ubuntu! (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X_mzgdQGwY4).

</joke to lighten the mood>

I love that.