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leveillerems
April 10th, 2012, 03:41 PM
I was seating listening to music and updating 12.04 beta and i come across that empathy was remove from my system as I go back to software center to install it after pressing th more info button, i see there was more attachment to it then it trigger me to investigate of how many more patches i can add and the only way to do that is synaptic witch may me think of this question; How many of Ubuntu user still use synaptic for extra attachment or even installing apps them self? Spread this question lets find out maybe we might have enough people to bring it back as one of the default installer.

roelforg
April 10th, 2012, 03:50 PM
Never did.
Always used apt-get

kostkon
April 10th, 2012, 06:23 PM
Not anymore.

USC or apt-get for me.

Version Dependency
April 10th, 2012, 06:27 PM
I use the terminal for most installs/removals but I sometimes fire up Synaptic or the Software Center. Regardless of whether Synaptic is installed by default or not, it only takes a few seconds to download it if you want it. So I don't see the problem.

CharlesA
April 10th, 2012, 07:54 PM
I've always just use apt-get myself.

Either that or yum if I'm running CentOS. :P

The Software Center is more than sufficient for most users.

forrestcupp
April 10th, 2012, 09:56 PM
I don't think there's a snowball's chance in the underworld that they're going to switch back Synaptic as the default. ;)

I actually like Ubuntu Software Center. It looks nice, and I like the screenshots, descriptions, and reviews. Synaptic has some of that to an extent, but it's nicer in USC.

I do still use Synaptic sometimes, though. There are a lot of power things you can do in it that you can't do in USC. Also, USC seems to only show the main apps, and not every package. Sometimes I'll use Synaptic if there's some obscure thing I need to look up that isn't in USC.

It's never going to be default again, though.

linuxyogi
April 11th, 2012, 01:04 AM
I use apt-get or aptitude.

Papi47
April 11th, 2012, 02:28 AM
I don't like Software Ctr. Tried it but when you have to use Synaptic or apt-get because SC says cheese or a few other packages don't exist, I will use the other 2. Does apt keep track of your downloads like synaptic?

CharlesA
April 11th, 2012, 02:46 AM
I don't like Software Ctr. Tried it but when you have to use Synaptic or apt-get because SC says cheese or a few other packages don't exist, I will use the other 2. Does apt keep track of your downloads like synaptic?
They all keep track of which packages are installed.

wolfen69
April 11th, 2012, 02:51 AM
Regardless of whether Synaptic is installed by default or not, it only takes a few seconds to download it if you want it. So I don't see the problem.

This. Those who want it, can get and use it.

Giant Speck
April 11th, 2012, 05:23 AM
I only use Synaptic when I'm searching for a particular package. As nice as the Software Center is, I still think Synaptic does a better job of displaying what the Software Center calls "technical packages".

forrestcupp
April 11th, 2012, 01:32 PM
Does apt keep track of your downloads like synaptic?
Synaptic is just a GUI frontend to apt. So whatever Synaptic does, apt does.

dniMretsaM
April 11th, 2012, 03:15 PM
I just use the apt from the CLI. I can do everything that I can through Synaptic or USC or Muon or whatever. I almost always have a terminal or Emacs shell buffer open anyway, so everything is just easier that way.

stalkingwolf
April 11th, 2012, 03:45 PM
i use apt and synaptic both. I like synaptic when looking for something specific or showing someone what is available. For instance I am setting up a laptop for My SiLs boyfriend. He teaches and tutors math. I opened synaptic for him and showed him what is available under mathematics. It was greek to me but He understood what they did.

Jay Car
April 11th, 2012, 03:52 PM
Synaptic and Aptitude are the first things I grab from the software center after any fresh install. It really doesn't matter to me if Synaptic's not installed by default.

Since using 12.04, I've learned to use Aptitude for handling safe upgrades. But synaptic - even though, as forrestcupp says, it's just a GUI frontend to apt - is so easy to use for multiple installs and removals.

The software center is nice, but only for installing one thing at a time. There's a list of things I always uninstall, and programs I need to install on a fresh system. In Synaptic I can do all of that at once.

Synaptic also helps me to see what's broken (if anything), and I can find the software sources list there...sometimes I forget that I've added a ppa (or two or three), and it's easy to find and delete them when needed.

Am I doin' it wrong?

Erik1984
April 11th, 2012, 04:27 PM
If you miss more applicationd it might pay off to put a big "sudo apt-get install package1 package2 ... packageN" line in a file and execute that right after a fresh installation.

ikt
April 11th, 2012, 04:45 PM
I only use Synaptic when I'm searching for a particular package. As nice as the Software Center is, I still think Synaptic does a better job of displaying what the Software Center calls "technical packages".

Yup exactly, but I don't really mind that synaptic is not installed by default since I can install it so quickly.

forrestcupp
April 11th, 2012, 04:47 PM
Synaptic also helps me to see what's broken (if anything), and I can find the software sources list there...sometimes I forget that I've added a ppa (or two or three), and it's easy to find and delete them when needed.

That's what's so great about Synaptic. You can do things that are more complicated than just install basic apps. USC dumbs everything down and is only useful for installing the basic apps when you don't care about dependencies or anything else. Most of the time, the Software Center is all people need, but there are times when it is nice to have more control.

graabein
April 11th, 2012, 08:18 PM
First of all, good thread title...

OT I use apt-get and synaptic.

Currently I'm upgrading from 10.10 and downloading packages takes forever. Just wondering... is the upgrade manager smart enough to download from a server near you/me? I want to get this done before evening.

I just created a boot image with unetbootin and that download went fast/normal so this is really strange.

Is it possible to download the ISO for 11.04 and upgrade from current 10.10 using that ISO?

forrestcupp
April 11th, 2012, 10:18 PM
Just wondering... is the upgrade manager smart enough to download from a server near you/me? I want to get this done before evening.

I could be wrong, but I'm pretty sure that when you set your location during Ubuntu's installation, it automatically sets your default repo server to be the one closest to you.

sffvba[e0rt
April 11th, 2012, 10:26 PM
I could be wrong, but I'm pretty sure that when you set your location during Ubuntu's installation, it automatically sets your default repo server to be the one closest to you.

AFAIK, yes.


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