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Lucradia
February 21st, 2012, 06:36 PM
Source: http://news.cnet.com/8301-10805_3-57381672-75/microsoft-extends-consumer-support-for-windows-7-vista/

Windows 7 = 2020
Windows Vista = 2017

I'm guessing it's because of how many desktop users won't switch to Windows 8.

Scarbird
February 21st, 2012, 07:38 PM
I'm guessing it's because of how many desktop users won't switch to Windows 8.
Yeah. Metro UI ain't all that great. On tablets, yeah it's alright. But on desktop PCs... #-o

Lucradia
February 21st, 2012, 08:14 PM
Just remember not to press Windows Key too much on the desktop in Windows 8 :P

Dragonbite
February 21st, 2012, 08:16 PM
Ubuntu LTSs is moving to 5 years for the desktop (don't know if 12.04 is moving to 5 years or not)
Red Hat, I think, moved from 7 years to 10 years

Everybody's trying to figure out the sweet spot. Windows XP kept getting pushed on and on and even now people are resisting change (even though they are going to find fewer and fewer applications are continuing to support).

neu5eeCh
February 21st, 2012, 08:45 PM
I'm guessing it's because of how many desktop users won't switch to Windows 8.

Possibly. I think MS is calling the business community's bluff, in a way. They're probably fed up with supporting XP ( continually extending support for it). They're in a bind though. If MS discontinues XP support, will businesses migrate to an updated version of windows or a competitor like Red Hat or Oracle? I doubt the latter but enterprise linux is in a much stronger position than it was, even two years ago. MS might be offering an olive branch in the form of extended support for VISTA and Windows 7 which, at this point, are more conservative and tested choices for risk-averse businesses. This is all armchair speculation but interesting. Businesses might call Microsoft's bluff by refusing to upgrade. Then what? Will Microsoft be forced to extend support for XP? This has been the pattern up till now.

From here (http://news.cnet.com/8301-10805_3-20086776-75/windows-xp-market-share-dips-below-50-percent/):

"Redmond offers no direct migration path from Windows XP to Windows 7, so moving to the latest OS typically requires either a total reinstall or an upgrade to a new PC. Tools such as Microsoft's Windows Easy Transfer may help ease the pain (http://cnettv.cnet.com/upgrade-windows-xp-to-windows-7/), but the migration is still time-consuming, especially for larger companies. A survey of IT professionals (http://news.cnet.com/8301-1001_3-20021324-92.html) last November found that half of them were planning to continue to use XP even after the support tap is turned off in 2014."

del_diablo
February 21st, 2012, 09:39 PM
They actually extended Vista instead of killing it this summer? Good news.

Erik1984
February 21st, 2012, 09:47 PM
Source: http://news.cnet.com/8301-10805_3-57381672-75/microsoft-extends-consumer-support-for-windows-7-vista/

Windows 7 = 2020
Windows Vista = 2017

I'm guessing it's because of how many desktop users won't switch to Windows 8.

That's what I thought. I don't even think it has so much to do with the Metro interface but more with the fact that people like to keep the OS they have and don't want to pay extra for an upgrade. To most people Windows appears to be free. It's just on your PC when you bought it and you didn't have to pay at first, why pay now for a 'better' Windows? "The one we have works just fine" etc.

It's the same with XP, people are not afraid of Windows 7, interface-wise it's really not that different, but they just don't want to pay extra. OK some business users also have compatibility reasons for not upgrading.

neu5eeCh
February 21st, 2012, 10:52 PM
It's the same with XP, people are not afraid of Windows 7, interface-wise it's really not that different, but they just don't want to pay extra.

It's not just the expense of upgrading to a Windows 7 or 8. There's also the expense of all the third party software that isn't compatible with newer versions of Windows. The actual cost of upgrading the OS + all the other software can cost more than a new computer. I can vouch for this. It's one of the reasons I switched to Linux. I got sick of the Microsoft gravy train. $Christmas$ for software companies is when Microsoft releases a new version of Windows. "Golly, you mean our software doesn't work with the latest version? Well, instead of issuing a patch, we're going to take this opportunity to incorporate our patch into the SAME OLD SWILL and call it a BRAND SPANKING NEW VERSION! $$ KA-CHING! $$ :D"

cariboo
February 22nd, 2012, 05:39 AM
I can't really see this making any difference in the long run, as most consumers get a new version of Windows for seemingly free, when they purchase new hardware.

When Windows 8 is released, the hardware manufacturers will be supplying it just as they have with all previous versions.

asifnaz
February 22nd, 2012, 07:04 AM
People are going to hate windows 8 for its metro UI . Be ready to be called it "windows H8"

Hylas de Niall
February 22nd, 2012, 07:27 AM
I read that you can revert to the standard panel and menu desktop in Win8 easily enough anyway.

Ji Ruo
February 22nd, 2012, 07:34 AM
Glad I will not have to go out and buy a copy to replace my Vista install.

Regarding Windows 8, no one has mentioned the secure boot controversy yet. Never mind about the interface, this could mean you can't install anything but Windows on the hardware you paid for!

http://arstechnica.com/business/news/2011/09/windows-8-secure-boot-will-complicate-linux-installs.ars
http://blog.canonical.com/2011/10/28/white-paper-secure-boot-impact-on-linux/
http://www.linuxfoundation.org/publications/making-uefi-secure-boot-work-with-open-platforms
http://www.fsf.org/campaigns/secure-boot-vs-restricted-boot/statement

forrestcupp
February 22nd, 2012, 02:05 PM
I've always been one to jump on new Windows releases, but I won't be upgrading to Win8 unless I have to.


I read that you can revert to the standard panel and menu desktop in Win8 easily enough anyway.
Then why even bother upgrading if it's just going to be what I already have? That's good news for the poor souls who buy new computers and have to have Win8, though.

Dragonbite
February 22nd, 2012, 02:33 PM
I read that you can revert to the standard panel and menu desktop in Win8 easily enough anyway.

I was saying to a co-worker that if Microsoft is smart they will use the "traditional" view on laptops and desktops with the option, for those interested, to switch to Metro, while tablets and touchscreens can default to Metro.

Then he told me Microsoft was planning on rolling Metro as the default on ALL systems.#-o

Maybe the OEMs will be smart and switch it to the classic (traditional) view before they ship?!

Then again, Apple is doing a more hybrid like interface so Ubuntu and Unity are actually ahead of the competition if you think about it. We've had Unity for wha, a year now? More?

Lucradia
February 22nd, 2012, 05:43 PM
I read that you can revert to the standard panel and menu desktop in Win8 easily enough anyway.

I want to completely disable metro though, so I don't accidentally hit Windows Key to cause me to switch between my recently used metro applications (Desktop = Metro Application)


Maybe the OEMs will be smart and switch it to the classic (traditional) view before they ship?!

Very unlikely.