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JudgementDay
January 31st, 2012, 01:54 AM
Hi all! I have two questions for those using Ubuntu 10.04 LTS. Will you switch to Ubuntu 12.04 LTS when it is released? What do you currently have in mind for doing when support for Ubuntu 10.04 LTS stops? To answer my own questions: I won't be switching to Ubuntu 12.04 LTS. I currently plan on switching to Ubuntu Server 10.04 LTS.

cariboo
January 31st, 2012, 06:19 AM
Why switch to the server version? If you don't like/can't run Unity, there are so many desktop environments to choose from, that surely you can find one that works for you.

Have a look at Xubuntu, Lubuntu or Kubuntu, or if you want to continue using the old two panel interface, have a look at this (http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1873765) thread.

malspa
January 31st, 2012, 06:25 AM
I'll be installing 12.04. I like to try to wait until a few weeks after the new LTS comes out. The default desktop environment is a complete non-issue here.

wolfen69
January 31st, 2012, 06:32 AM
I'll do a fresh install of 12.04 just like I do every release.

user1397
January 31st, 2012, 06:59 AM
I currently have no idea what I'll do. I went back to 10.04 because of my love of gnome 2 and because the kernels in 11.10 were buggy for my laptop (esp. with suspend).

I'll probably install 12.04 on a test partition first to check it out, then if I like it enough I'll switch. Or maybe I'll switch to kubuntu. Or maybe a whole new distro...no idea really.

On a side note, you say you're switching to the server. I understand You're doing that to keep the updates coming. I haven't really thought of this option til you just mentioned it. What's the difference between installing the server edition and apt-get installing ubuntu-desktop, and the regular desktop edition? If there is no difference, why do people not do this more often (switch to the server edition of whatever version they're on) when they don't like the next release and want to stay with the old release, and when it's reached EOL?

Bucky Ball
January 31st, 2012, 07:21 AM
I use Xfce anyhow so the Gnome/Unity debate doesn't concern me. I generally wait for six months after LTS release. 10.04 LTS is supported until April 2013 (over a year to go) so I'll probably think about a change then. I need my machines to be solid, stable and reliable and hopefully 12.04 LTS should be by then. ;)

netJackDaw
January 31st, 2012, 08:35 AM
Hi all! I have two questions for those using Ubuntu 10.04 LTS. Will you switch to Ubuntu 12.04 LTS when it is released? What do you currently have in mind for doing when support for Ubuntu 10.04 LTS stops? To answer my own questions: I won't be switching to Ubuntu 12.04 LTS. I currently plan on switching to Ubuntu Server 10.04 LTS.

As far as I know, switching to the server version will not give you extended support (security updates) on packages like X11 and desktop packages. Packages like that are not supported for the full 5 years of the LTS server (read until 10.04).

Personally I will probably switch to some flavor of xfce/xubuntu on 12.04 LTS. Installed from as much scratch as I can manage, i.e starting with a minimal CD and add packages. There I will stay and upgrade a few specific applications (such as my web browser) for the life of the release. News is that 12.04 LTS is supported for 5 years on both the server and desktop.

LowSky
January 31st, 2012, 08:36 AM
Ah upgrading. How I don't miss thee.

Megaptera
January 31st, 2012, 08:41 AM
I'll probably move to 12.04 plus 'cinnamon'.

mikewhatever
January 31st, 2012, 08:46 AM
I'll do some testing first, and will, most certainly, move to 12.04 eventually.

drpjkurian
January 31st, 2012, 08:50 AM
Hi
I will be switching to 12.04LTS as soon as it is launched.

sffvba[e0rt
January 31st, 2012, 02:32 PM
Hi
I will be switching to 12.04LTS as soon as it is launched.

+1 (if I can resist the urge to do it sooner).


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BlinkinCat
January 31st, 2012, 02:36 PM
+1 (if I can resist the urge to do it sooner).


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It sure is tempting - :P

rudihawk
January 31st, 2012, 02:40 PM
I invaribly install the new versions of Ubuntu as they hit Beta.

Although I might just stick with 11.10 for a while longer.

stangdaman
January 31st, 2012, 04:07 PM
Is there an expected launch date?

BlinkinCat
January 31st, 2012, 04:09 PM
Is there an expected launch date?


I think it is around about the 26th April - :)

Bucky Ball
January 31st, 2012, 04:24 PM
Is there an expected launch date?

Took seconds to find this ...

http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2011/12/ubuntu-12-04-release-schedule/

Please read the second line of my signature. ;)

mips
January 31st, 2012, 04:43 PM
Debian stable or testing is also an option.

sffvba[e0rt
January 31st, 2012, 05:45 PM
It sure is tempting - :P

Took a chance and installed Unity 5.0 on 11.10 and it worked (well is working for now :p) so I think I am good until the release :)


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snowpine
January 31st, 2012, 06:59 PM
I won't be switching to Ubuntu 12.04 LTS. I currently plan on switching to Ubuntu Server 10.04 LTS.

No reason to install Ubuntu Server unless you actually plan to run a server. Any desktop packages you install on top will not be supported past April 2013.

eriktheblu
January 31st, 2012, 07:44 PM
My netbook I will upgrade when I think to do so and have free time. It mostly runs Win7 as a digital audio workstation due to driver issues.

My MythTV box will probably stay with 10.10 until I run into problems. More than likely, I will scrap it for parts when I build my next server (which will then use the current Mythbuntu LTS).

For my desktop, I am a bit torn. I'm currently using 10.04, but have tested 11.04 and 11.10. Thus far I don't like Unity. If my dislike continues beyond official support of Lucid, I'm leaning toward XFCE, or a Gnome 2 fork.

bwsmith25
January 31st, 2012, 08:54 PM
I will keep 10.04 on my main laptop until it reaches EOL, and then I will switch to 12.04 LTS of either Kubuntu or Xubuntu. (I haven't fully decided yet which one I want to move to yet.) In the meantime, I will use my secondary laptop as a testing platform to determine which 12.04 flavor to switch to.

d2btoo
January 31st, 2012, 08:59 PM
Not decided yet!
One thing is sure though no change until 2013 (hopefully).

Dngrsone
January 31st, 2012, 09:11 PM
I will install it alongside 10.04 until I am certain it will work well on my laptop. If not, then it will languish there until I decide which alternate version will work before support is removed from 10.04.

Much as I liked Unity, it just would not work on my laptop running 11.04.

Maybe I'll be lucky and it's fixed... maybe I will have to find something else until I replace my laptop.

sefs
January 31st, 2012, 09:55 PM
I'm going to switch to the 64-bit upgrade to 12.04 as well for the following reasons.

1/ I need the Intel HD 3000 graphic drives it has built in

2/ I need to see my full 4GB or ram instead of of 3GB. It's good to know they will be pushing the 64-bit by default, which I take to mean that everything out there now more or less will work with the 64-bit version.

I am however unsure what I will do about the desktop as I like gnome2 layout and its applications very much. But am not looking forward to Gnome3/Unity switch.

If not for the graphics card I would have stuck out with 10.04 until 2013.

peter d
January 31st, 2012, 10:43 PM
I will upgrade to 12.04 shortly after it is released, having tested it and checked it out. I must say I am really looking forward to it.

Bungo Pony
February 8th, 2012, 12:41 PM
I'm not sure what I'll be doing yet. I've heard so many awful things about Unity. I may move to 12.04, or I may move on to Linux Mint. The "Commodore OS" that's being worked on is a bit tempting for me too.

painejake
February 8th, 2012, 01:35 PM
I'll probably move to 12.04 after a week or so of it being released. :)

Sylos
February 8th, 2012, 02:04 PM
Interesting question. I am about to build my brand new rig in about a week (when the last parts arrive) so I am faced with a bit of a quandry over what to install. Im installing a vanilla Ubuntu and a studio version for audio.

I cant really wait until the next release but I have been anguishing over the version to install given I dont like the dock and unity in general. Installing 10.04 seems a little silly given the short life expectancy (shame as I like it a lot). I like the layout of LXDE but not a fan of the actual appearance - xfce suffers from similar issues. At the moment Im thinking I will go for something unity based and just use the fallback option.

I also need to upgrade my girlfriends 10.04 laptop (which I had to do hell and all fiddling with) to a later version. I might wait until 12.04 for that one and again use the fallback option.

If anyone has better ideas Im open to them.

Cheers

Dngrsone
February 8th, 2012, 03:18 PM
I'm not sure what I'll be doing yet. I've heard so many awful things about Unity. I may move to 12.04, or I may move on to Linux Mint. The "Commodore OS" that's being worked on is a bit tempting for me too.

I, too, would like to have a crack at the Commodore OS-- I was a better hacker on my C64 than I ever was on x86 operating systems.

Linuxratty
February 8th, 2012, 06:06 PM
I will be switching to 12.04 LTS Of Kubuntu,Xubuntu or I might dive over to Cinnamon or KDE Mint..Will have to see who plays the nicest on my rig.

Papi47
February 8th, 2012, 07:15 PM
I will moved to 12.04. I have been using 11.10 for a couple of months to get used to Unity. While there are things I don't like, I would expect some changes down the road to make it better. Remember Gnome was'nt built in a day............:P

rudihawk
February 8th, 2012, 07:37 PM
I'll be switching to 12.04.

Always end up installing new versions as they come out...

Welly Wu
February 8th, 2012, 11:53 PM
I plan to upgrade to Ubuntu 12.04 64 bit Long Term Support. I think that I will continue to upgrade to future versions as well. I don't want to get left behind the times in terms of software technologies.

Dngrsone
February 9th, 2012, 02:33 AM
[ SOLVED ] your delimma.

Re-partition your hard drive, so that you can run multiple release versions.

Keep all personal data on a shared partition.

In other words :
Say your hard drive is 160 GB in total.
Create 5 partitions : 16GB, 16GB, 16GB, 110GB, swap.

1st 16GB partition : Lubuntu 11.10,
2nd 16GB : Ubutunu 10.04,
3rd 16GB : free and ready for Lubuntu 12.04 install on release day,
4th 110GB : personal data ( cooking recipes, pictures of Kim Jong, and p0rn.).
5th 2GB : swap.

Use symbolic links, to link HOME directories to personal data partition.

Separate /home partition-- good.
Sharing /home between OS's-- not-so-good. You can really mess up your personal data and settings by bouncing between different iterations.

BrokenKingpin
February 9th, 2012, 02:36 AM
Fresh install of 12.04 a few weeks after release. It won't be with Unity though... so either Xubuntu or Kubuntu. I am running Xubuntu right now, but Kubuntu gets better with each release.

KingYaba
February 9th, 2012, 02:47 AM
Definitely will be Xubuntu if I decide to upgrade.

Bucky Ball
February 9th, 2012, 02:55 AM
Interesting question. I am about to build my brand new rig in about a week (when the last parts arrive) so I am faced with a bit of a quandry over what to install. Im installing a vanilla Ubuntu and a studio version for audio.

You will find that Ubuntu Studio will use Xfce as its default desktop environment anyhow. It's not changing to Unity. ;)

Bucky Ball
February 9th, 2012, 03:01 AM
Separate /home partition-- good.
Sharing /home between OS's-- not-so-good. You can really mess up your personal data and settings by bouncing between different iterations.

Never had any problem whatsoever. Are you talking from experience? ;)

uRock
February 9th, 2012, 03:33 AM
I couldn't wait. I just upgraded our LTS machine to 11.10 last night. I plan to leave it at 12.04 when it comes out.

Dngrsone
February 9th, 2012, 03:27 PM
Never had any problem whatsoever. Are you talking from experience? ;)

Yup.