Windows Vista Beta 2 Public Trial online...

[Donshyoku]

If anyone cares...

http://www.dailytech.com/article.aspx?newsid=2759

I am willing to try it. I am not so into Linux biggotry that I am going to deny it without using it. It is free, so I'll give it a shot.

Windows has good features. Linux has good features. Apple has good features.

So experiment away! And, of course, if you want to dog it, come back to the thread and have at it! :cool:

[Kilz]

If anyone cares...

http://www.dailytech.com/article.aspx?newsid=2759

I am willing to try it. I am not so into Linux biggotry that I am going to deny it without using it. It is free, so I'll give it a shot.

Windows has good features. Linux has good features. Apple has good features.

So experiment away! And, of course, if you want to dog it, come back to the thread and have at it! :cool:
Sorry, Windoz is like cigarettes. I'm not into bigotry, its just after getting rid of them the last thing I want is try another.

[Donshyoku]

Heh, heh...

I am not excited at all. I follow the previews and CTP builds and I don't see much that interests me. However, if I am going to dog it, I want to make it at least a good, educated thrashing.

I guess this is big-time beta still, and even the users who have it already (it was released to MSDN subscribers two weeks ago) say it is still buggy as hell. Debug mode is on in the background so it is said to be horribly laggy at all times.

Gah, but I still feel like I must try it! The horrible pangs of a geek... ](*,)

[aktiwers]

Would it be possible to install it on Vmware without burning it to a DVD?
Then I might give it a go :)

[Donshyoku]

Would it be possible to install it on Vmware without burning it to a DVD?
Then I might give it a go :)

I hope so! I really don't want to get rid of a perfect system just to try the beta...

Anyone with more experience able to help?

[aktiwers]

I hope so! I really don't want to get rid of a perfect system just to try the beta...

Anyone with more experience able to help?

I will make some search about it now.. If I find out, I will create my first HowTo :)

[Donshyoku]

I will make some search about it now.. If I find out, I will create my first HowTo :)

Cheers!

[?????]

Remember the downs about Vista like the 7 steps to removing a shortcut and high ram usage.. 4 words: Stick to Ubuntu Dapper


And I don't have a DVD Burner

[aktiwers]

The download keeps freezing? Im the only one getting that?

[Engnome]

Downloading, Im not just a distro junkie Im a OS junkie :D 3 gb what a waste of MS bandwith, to bad.:-\"

[aktiwers]

Maybe too many people are downloading.. even

wget http://download.windowsvista.com/dl/preview/beta2/en/x86/iso/vista_5384.4.060518-1455_winmain_beta2_x86fre_client-LB2CFRE_EN_DVD.iso

Freezes for me :(

EDIT:
No wait.. now its running again.. and very slow :(

EDIT2:

What a ****** download link!!



aktiwers@ubuntu:~$ wget http://download.windowsvista.com/dl/preview/beta2/en/x86/iso/vista_5384.4.060518-1455_winmain_beta2_x86fre_client-LB2CFRE_EN_DVD.iso
--03:22:28-- http://download.windowsvista.com/dl/preview/beta2/en/x86/iso/vista_5384.4.060518-1455_winmain_beta2_x86fre_client-LB2CFRE_EN_DVD.iso
=> `vista_5384.4.060518-1455_winmain_beta2_x86fre_client-LB2CFRE_EN_DVD.iso'
Resolving download.windowsvista.com... 193.108.94.46, 193.108.94.54
Connecting to download.windowsvista.com|193.108.94.46|:80... connected.
HTTP request sent, awaiting response... 200 OK
Length: 3.355.598.848 (3.1G) [application/octet-stream]

0% [ ] 9.437.184 --.--K/s ETA 5:23:22

03:23:24 (168.42 KB/s) - Connection closed at byte 9437184. Retrying.

--03:23:25-- http://download.windowsvista.com/dl/preview/beta2/en/x86/iso/vista_5384.4.060518-1455_winmain_beta2_x86fre_client-LB2CFRE_EN_DVD.iso
(try: 2) => `vista_5384.4.060518-1455_winmain_beta2_x86fre_client-LB2CFRE_EN_DVD.iso'
Connecting to download.windowsvista.com|193.108.94.46|:80... connected.
HTTP request sent, awaiting response... 206 Partial Content
Length: 3.355.598.848 (3.1G), 3.346.161.664 (3.1G) remaining [application/octet-stream]

0% [ ] 11.010.048 --.--K/s ETA 20:34:53

03:24:00 (44.08 KB/s) - Connection closed at byte 11010048. Retrying.

--03:24:02-- http://download.windowsvista.com/dl/preview/beta2/en/x86/iso/vista_5384.4.060518-1455_winmain_beta2_x86fre_client-LB2CFRE_EN_DVD.iso
(try: 3) => `vista_5384.4.060518-1455_winmain_beta2_x86fre_client-LB2CFRE_EN_DVD.iso'
Connecting to download.windowsvista.com|193.108.94.46|:80... connected.
HTTP request sent, awaiting response... 206 Partial Content
Length: 3.355.598.848 (3.1G), 3.344.588.800 (3.1G) remaining [application/octet-stream]

0% [ ] 16.777.216 --.--K/s ETA 9:37:13

03:25:02 (94.15 KB/s) - Connection closed at byte 16777216. Retrying.

--03:25:05-- http://download.windowsvista.com/dl/preview/beta2/en/x86/iso/vista_5384.4.060518-1455_winmain_beta2_x86fre_client-LB2CFRE_EN_DVD.iso
(try: 4) => `vista_5384.4.060518-1455_winmain_beta2_x86fre_client-LB2CFRE_EN_DVD.iso'
Connecting to download.windowsvista.com|193.108.94.46|:80... connected.
HTTP request sent, awaiting response... 206 Partial Content
Length: 3.355.598.848 (3.1G), 3.338.821.632 (3.1G) remaining [application/octet-stream]

0% [ ] 17.301.504 --.--K/s ETA 62:20:24

03:25:41 (14.53 KB/s) - Connection closed at byte 17301504. Retrying.
Im getting nowhere :(
!@%$#-! Microsoft.... ](*,)

[Engnome]

Keeps quitting for me to, have to resume (using Opera) I'm not gonna start XP just to use their download manager. Not gonna let my wintendo (no fw or antivirus) be exposed to the frightening internet more then absolutetly necessary.

Edit: They should offer it as a torrent. Ah well guess they're not that into torrent for some reason ;D

[aktiwers]

LoL I get like 1 mb, then it stops for 3-5 mins, download another mb and stops again?? I think to many people are downloading.. I will try again tomorrow.

[Donshyoku]

I am not getting too good of speed either; I'm going to leave it running overnight and see what happens. Hopefully, so bandwidth will clear up at about 3AM! :roll:

[Jucato]

Umm... what will happen to my existing XP installation? Haven't they developed any technology that could let people try out their betas without overwriting the existing system? I guess they've never heard of Live CD/DVDs. But then again, 3GBs...

I'm not sure I'd want to use XP long-term, though (except for gaming), specially after reading this article: http://news.com.com/2100-1016_3-6081286.html?part=rss&tag=6081286&subj=news.

[bluevoodoo1]

Yeah I'm using Kget and it'll stall every few minutes, I've gotten 9% so far... looks like it's stalled again.

[Kilz]

Umm... what will happen to my existing XP installation? Haven't they developed any technology that could let people try out their betas without overwriting the existing system? I guess they've never heard of Live CD/DVDs. But then again, 3GBs...

I'm not sure I'd want to use XP long-term, though (except for gaming), specially after reading this article: http://news.com.com/2100-1016_3-6081286.html?part=rss&tag=6081286&subj=news.

The windows genuine advantage check may be the biggest help in convincing people to try Linux since Windows ME.

[?????]

They need mirrors.. and just wondering, would this override grub?


EDIT: Can somone pick up my beans? :P

[zachtib]

I'm gonna leave wget running overnight, shame MS doesn't use torrents.

[azazel-]

This build has been out on the torrent sites for about two weeks now. Every little turd from crap "news" sites like neowin is probably saturating the download links so they can be the first to fap-fap themselves into a coma over the gaudy transparency and pretty-pretty icons. I'd forget about official links for at least a few days.

And yes, it installs fine in vmware.

[benplaut]

hahahahahahha
sounds like MS needs some third-party mirrors :D

linuxiso.com should mirror, just to spite them :P

[Klaidas]

Ok, I suppose Windows Vista doesn't have a LiveCD, right? :-k

[Sonique]

Ha ha a LiveCD?! thats only for OSs that acutally care


Edit: Oh btw.. im getting great speed in downloading vista (231kb/s which is fast for me)

[Klaidas]

Oh well, just as I thought :KS

[bruce89]

Ok, I suppose Windows Vista doesn't have a LiveCD, right? :-k
They should, although they don't like GPL stuff, so they would have to make their own LiveCD method. Just like the icons, they have a 192x192 PNG for scalable use, and they call it a huge advance. Linux has been using PNG for years.

[linbetwin]

You don't have to download Vista. In Windows XP, go to Start > Programs > Accessories > Command Promt. You will see something like a Linux terminal (only useless). Type this command:


psuedo wga update
pseudo vista-upgrade

[bruce89]

You don't have to download Vista. In Windows XP, go to Start > Programs > Accessories > Command Promt. You will see something like a Linux terminal (only useless). Type this command:


psuedo wga update
pseudo vista-upgrade
!

[rcarring]

Microsoft originally said that 256mb ram would be enough, now with Beta 2 they have doubled this to 512mb ram. In one swift stroke they have lost millions of dollars in potential upgrades from Windows users who must have the latest version but only have 256mb ram and no way to increase it.

I may order the DVD just out of spite. I can't run the damn thing anyway.

EDIT: I just tried to open the product guide in Abiword and after ten minutes of the app disk thrashing I gave up.

[tribaal]

I'm downloading... just to be able to add personal anecdotes to my anti-MS trolling ;)

- trib'

[Engnome]

There servers seems to have sobered up (maybe they gave up and started using FreeBSD like in hotmail) cuz I've been downloading @ 400 KB/s Vista here i come:twisted:

[rcarring]

There servers seems to have sobered up (maybe they gave up and started using FreeBSD like in hotmail) cuz I've been downloading @ 400 KB/s Vista here i come:twisted:

I just tried to download Vista, but it says the servers are too busy.

[shuttleworthwannabe]

here is my first experience with this allegedly FREE downlaod:
Thank you for your interest in Windows Vista Beta 2.
We are currently experiencing a high level of demand and cannot process your request at this time.
Please check back later for availability. We apologize for any inconvenience.

[romUdog]

Yea it took me about 3x to download the damned thing but im installing VMware as we speak to test it...Vista will suck i just wanna get more reasons to h8 it LOL! Ill post screenshots or something if i can get it to run lol Microsuck needs to torrent it their Java download manager sucks *** lol anyway keep me posted to what you all thinka it lol i alredy know it sux lol

[rcarring]

I guess you have at least 512mb ram to allocate to the VM then?

[shuttleworthwannabe]

Hi is there a good HOWTO on VMWare?? I prefer not to put Visat on anyof my partitions (rather keep it virtual)

[bluevoodoo1]

Hi is there a good HOWTO on VMWare?? I prefer not to put Visat on anyof my partitions (rather keep it virtual)


http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=183209



I have it downloaded... started it with VMware...

and now, here's my experience with this FREE download....

[Kernel Sanders]

This build has been out on the torrent sites for about two weeks now. Every little turd from crap "news" sites like neowin is probably saturating the download links so they can be the first to fap-fap themselves into a coma over the gaudy transparency and pretty-pretty icons. I'd forget about official links for at least a few days.

And yes, it installs fine in vmware.

:( I'm a member of Neowin :(

[linbetwin]

http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=183209



I have it downloaded... started it with VMware...

and now, here's my experience with this FREE download....

Go to the MS Vista site, click on the download link and register for the download. You don't have to download the beast again, but you'll be given a Product Key.

Beta 2 will expire on June 7, 2007, and they'll also make RC1 freely available "later this year".

[bluevoodoo1]

Go to the MS Vista site, click on the download link and register for the download. You don't have to download the beast again, but you'll be given a Product Key.

Beta 2 will expire on June 7, 2007, and they'll also make RC1 freely available "later this year".

Alright! thanks, I got it :)

[romUdog]

Vista is a Linux knockoff (with firefox knockyoff) and all this stuff its just a rip of other companies/peoples ideas.

[_simon_]

Go to the MS Vista site, click on the download link and register for the download. You don't have to download the beast again, but you'll be given a Product Key.

Beta 2 will expire on June 7, 2007, and they'll also make RC1 freely available "later this year".

Why would they set expiry on that date when *supposedly* Vista will be out at the start of 2007!?

[linbetwin]

Why would they set expiry on that date when *supposedly* Vista will be out at the start of 2007!?

They won't stop at anything to get people to switch from Linux! ;)

[Xilon]

This build has been out on the torrent sites for about two weeks now. Every little turd from crap "news" sites like neowin is probably saturating the download links so they can be the first to fap-fap themselves into a coma over the gaudy transparency and pretty-pretty icons. I'd forget about official links for at least a few days.

And yes, it installs fine in vmware.
Too bad they don't try Compiz or MacOSX... they'd be able to "fap-fap themselves into a coma" ages ago.

[carl13]

They need mirrors.. and just wondering, would this override grub?


EDIT: Can somone pick up my beans? :P

So will this override grub?

[curuxz]

Vista is a Linux knockoff (with firefox knockyoff) and all this stuff its just a rip of other companies/peoples ideas.

Im sure microsoft has that on a t-shirt somewhere

[carl13]

I was impressed with the installation process with dapper. Now even more so, the installation of vista is as slow and painfull as its download.

[aktiwers]

I made this guide about how to install Vista from .iso without burning to DVD.

Its in my signiture.

[Psquared]

I downloaded it last night, but now you guys have about talked me into scrapping it. My DVD-/+R won't make an ISO on a blank DVD-R using K3B or Nautilus so I went and spent my perfectly good money on some blank DVD+Rs just for this. Oh well, I guess I can use them for something else.

[Klaidas]

I made this guide about how to install Vista from .iso without burning to DVD.
Its in my signiture.

Just a suggestion: you could title it "Run Windows Vista on Ubuntu without installing", or something like that. Now it looks like you would be offering to overwrite Ubuntu with Windows Vista :) (at least that was my first impression)

[aktiwers]

Wouldnt want to give that impression! :D
Changed it ;)

[Klaidas]

Now it looks much better ;)

[noneofthem]

Isn't it sad...?

If you wanna stay competative in your job search (in the future) or in your job (if your job is to fix Window$ computers) there is no real way around getting into Windows Vista at some stage. You should at least know the basics and some problem solutions. The thing is that I am absolutely not willing to infect my computer with MS software again. Especially not now that I have got a perfect Kubuntu system running which I adore since trying Breezy the first time.

"Unfortunately" I don't have a spare computer available to install the Vista beta on and as I said I will definately not put it on my laptop. Which leaves me no other option than checking out your experiences. Keep on checking and keep on posting. It's very interesting to see how many more features MS has stolen from other OS's. ;-)

All the best

Amir