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decomp
January 9th, 2012, 07:05 AM
Hi!

So I have a band and we are making cd's. I don't think the standard copyright is working for musicians so I don't want to use that.

I'm thinking of a license that makes it okay for people to copy and distribute the music and artwork, but not to sell it - except for us, or people with our permission to sell it.

Does something like this exist?

iiiears
January 9th, 2012, 07:33 AM
http://creativecommons.org/choose/

another place to look.

I hope you sell out stadiums.

Best wishes.

Frogs Hair
January 9th, 2012, 04:47 PM
This may be worth checking out . http://www.jamendo.com/en/

decomp
January 21st, 2012, 10:13 AM
Hmm yes I am familiar with creative commons but theres nothing about ME being able to sell it.

Jamendo looks cool I suppose but still uses standard CC licenses.

I found the "free music public license" but it appears to be dead.

http://www.fmpl.org/

Any other ideas anyone?

szymon_g
January 21st, 2012, 11:27 AM
Hi!

So I have a band and we are making cd's. I don't think the standard copyright is working for musicians so I don't want to use that.

actually- the "standard copyright" works fine- if you wanna earn money.

donkyhotay
January 21st, 2012, 03:33 PM
Since you own the copyright to the music you automatically have full rights to something no matter what. If you use creative commons where you restrict commercial uses then that does not affect your own ability or rights to sell the music yourself.

Copper Bezel
January 21st, 2012, 06:50 PM
Yeah, the tangle that most musicians get into is a situation where they're not the exclusive copyright holders. If you're putting up the cash to do the recording and production, most of the usual problems go away.

HermanAB
January 21st, 2012, 08:12 PM
By default in most states, you are the only one allowed to sell your music. Read your state's copyright act.

Mr. Picklesworth
January 21st, 2012, 08:31 PM
Hmm yes I am familiar with creative commons but theres nothing about ME being able to sell it.

There is. That's what the non-commercial license is about :)

aysiu
January 21st, 2012, 09:12 PM
This one looks good:
Attribution-NonCommercial-ShareAlike 3.0 Unported (CC BY-NC-SA 3.0) (http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc-sa/3.0/)

It has this clause, too:
Waiver — Any of the above conditions can be waived if you get permission from the copyright holder. Since your band is the copyright holder, you can waive it for yourself, of course.

satanselbow
January 21st, 2012, 09:53 PM
Expanding on what
aysiu has just said,

The point that you seem to be missing throughout the thread is that regardless of licence type, be it GPL / CC etc you, as the licence holder, can pretty much do as you please (ie exclusively profit from the sale of your work) - the licence is there to restrict how and what others may do with it; especially with regards to sale/profit and reworking. ;)

Problems generally arise when (from experience) when record labels / agents get involved and their contracts involve claims of transfer of copyright to themselves - usually tied into the separate and equally suspect quagmire of "publishing rights" ... a slippery slope indeed... just look to the estates of any random dead rock-star for scary examples :(

undecim
January 22nd, 2012, 12:31 AM
CC-BY-NC-SA is exactly what you're describing.

http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc-sa/3.0/

decomp
January 22nd, 2012, 01:35 AM
Wow thanks for all that information everyone!

I'm much better informed now!