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Mortesins93
January 5th, 2012, 10:39 PM
Hello,
I have an old pc with a pentium 4 processor, 1 gb of ram, and an old graphics card, and flash games on facebook are pretty slow. So I'd like to know what is the deal with flash and linux. I've read other threads but each had different opinions. I mean how much does the speed of the processor influence, or the amount of RAM, or the graphics card or the fact that "flash is just bad on linux"? I was thinking of buying a new computer despite these problems but since my father is a "windows guy" and I'd like to continue to make him use ubuntu I would not want to buy a new computer and having to switch to windows because flash is not optimized for linux (he actually doesn't know that it runs smoother on windows because I only have ubuntu on this computer). In other words, if with a new computer I still get the same problems he is going to blame ubuntu and switch back to windows.
Hope you can answer my questions.
By the way, I was actually thinking of building the computer and choosing the most "ubuntu compatible parts", so any tips on that would be much appreciated too.
Thanks in advance

Lucradia
January 5th, 2012, 10:43 PM
Flash should work best with:

1.6 GHz DUAL core or better. (2.1 GHz Single core if you can only have one core.)

Almost any graphics card will suffice. However, it's all dependant on the flash developer's codebase. Most flash devs use sloppy methods and un-optimized stuff lying around. Also, if they used fireworks for post-processing effects, etc. then you're likely going to have a bigger problem.

doorknob60
January 6th, 2012, 02:00 AM
Buying a new computer certinaly would make Flash faster. Flash still sucks and has its problems and hogs CPU and videos tear and stuff, but on a modern computer I wouldn't call it slow. Games and stuff run fine for me, just uses more CPU than it should need to (which is why a Pentium 4 would be slow with it). Graphics card usually won't make much difference with Flash, I don't think it's hardware accellerated (if so, it doesn't work well, especially in Linux. CPU is the main factor)

snowpine
January 6th, 2012, 02:05 AM
Adobe Flash hardware requirements:

http://www.adobe.com/products/flashplayer/tech-specs.html

Basher101
January 6th, 2012, 02:11 AM
slow flash alone would not be a big enough criteria for me to buy a new computer, but a new PC will speed up pretty much everything..

medium-end computers dont cost much anyways

collisionystm
January 6th, 2012, 02:19 AM
http://www.newgrounds.com/portal/view/465908

flash benchmark

I cant even get past medium lol.

Brand New computer. Ubuntu 11.10.

Flash just sucks on Linux.

3Miro
January 6th, 2012, 02:29 AM
I got medium setting, the high end failed at 16 fps. My configuration: Phenom II X6 3.2Ghz, RAM 16GB DDR3 1333, Nvidia GTX260.

Basically, flash sux. Flash under Linux sux double. Getting a faster computer can make it acceptable, but flash will always suck.

collisionystm
January 6th, 2012, 02:35 AM
I got medium setting, the high end failed at 16 fps. My configuration: Phenom II X6 3.2Ghz, RAM 16GB DDR3 1333, Nvidia GTX260.

Basically, flash sux. Flash under Linux sux double. Getting a faster computer can make it acceptable, but flash will always suck.

I failed at medium 21 fps lol.

Dell Vostro 3555
AMD E2-3000M APU with Radeon(tm) 6380G HD Graphics

kurt18947
January 6th, 2012, 02:37 AM
I had a desktop PC very similar to the OP though mine was an AMD single core Athlon 2600+. Some flash sites would work reasonably well, others poorly or not at all; The CPU was running 95%+ continuously. That machine had an ATI AGP card. A single core dual threaded Atom-based netbook worked better. Any dual core CPU should be fine.

Basher101
January 6th, 2012, 02:37 AM
I failed at medium 21 fps lol.

Dell Vostro 3555
AMD E2-3000M APU with Radeon(tm) 6380G HD Graphics

alright i am almost close enough to do a reboot and make that bench myself...

collisionystm
January 6th, 2012, 02:46 AM
alright i am almost close enough to do a reboot and make that bench myself...


Turned off amd Power Now! ... realized I was only running at 800mhz haha.

Passed medium. Failed heavy at 14 fps. Total score off 11227

Basher101
January 6th, 2012, 02:47 AM
Turned off amd Power Now! ... realized I was only running at 800mhz haha.

Passed medium. Failed heavy at 14 fps. Total score off 11227

alright now you've done it. now you tell me how i do that benchmark so i can reboot right after i read how its done

collisionystm
January 6th, 2012, 02:50 AM
alright now you've done it. now you tell me how i do that benchmark so i can reboot right after i read how its done

lol go here.

http://www.newgrounds.com/portal/view/465908

Basher101
January 6th, 2012, 03:05 AM
so i have

lite - 95 fps
medium - 71
heavy - 58
ultra (failed xD) 18

total score 19279

will try the same with ubuntu now and just edit my post to save another post..

edit: so i got a winner! the flash bench does not even show up on the website xDD

collisionystm
January 6th, 2012, 03:09 AM
so i have

lite - 95 fps
medium - 71
heavy - 58
ultra (failed xD) 18

total score 19279

will try the same with ubuntu now and just edit my post to save another post..

Well... Windows did worse than Ubuntu for me.

Lite was 50 fps on windows
70 on ubuntu
medium was in the 30's on both
ultra failed at 14 on both

windows was a 10K score, ubuntu had an 11K score.

hmmm................... maybe its the beta flash-aid lol

Mortesins93
January 6th, 2012, 09:15 AM
Thank you all for the responses.

alphacrucis2
January 6th, 2012, 12:02 PM
Lenovo T520 Ubuntu 11.10 64 bit

Lite 72.74fps
Medium 72.28 fps
Heavy 36.12 fps
Ultra (failed) 16.33 fps

Total 19748 whatever that means.

Graphics is NVIDIA NVS 4200M.

mips
January 6th, 2012, 01:22 PM
lite - 73 fps
medium - 30 fps
heavy - 16 fps
ultra - failed

total score 11840

Flash must die, it's a resource hog.

Dovahkiin
January 6th, 2012, 02:48 PM
Lite: 60.4
Medium: 60.4
Heavy: 52.9
Ultra: 20.23
Score: 19399

3Miro
January 6th, 2012, 03:29 PM
Flash really sux. I passed the heavy benchmark with 28fps and failed with ultra one. This is on my work laptop with i7-2600QM CPU and Intel HD graphics, 8GB DDR3 1333 RAM. So flash is apparently optimized to Intel CPUs ... Flash should be outlawed.