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UsmanKhan
November 20th, 2011, 02:14 PM
Linux Rocks but flash sucks, but 80% of web uses flash ,
so i am moving back to windows.:popcorn:. Peace at last.

fantab
November 20th, 2011, 02:18 PM
Linux Rocks but flash sucks, but 80% of web uses flash ,
so i am moving back to windows.:popcorn:. Peace at last.

I am glad you found "Peace at last".

sammiev
November 20th, 2011, 02:28 PM
Flash works great here. Likely needs to be updated or installed.

tartalo
November 20th, 2011, 02:46 PM
Linux Rocks but flash sucks, but 80% of web uses flash

Actually around 26% of the Websites use Flash and the trend is downwards since long ago:
http://w3techs.com/technologies/details/cp-flash/all/all

Flash flagship sites like YouTube are preparing their transition to HTML5:
https://www.youtube.com/html5

Adobe has abandoned the development of Flash Mobile, they know they have lost:
http://edition.cnn.com/2011/11/09/tech/mobile/adobe-mobile-flash-wired/index.html

Google is putting a nail in the coffin too:
http://www.google.com/doubleclick/studio/swiffy/extension.html

...

Yes, Flash sucks, that's why it won't last very long.

LinuxFan999
November 20th, 2011, 03:03 PM
Linux Rocks but flash sucks, but 80% of web uses flash ,
so i am moving back to windows.:popcorn:. Peace at last.
Why did you move to Windows just because Flash doesn't work?
You could just download the flash content and convert it to a different format.

CharlesA
November 20th, 2011, 03:06 PM
Why did you move to Windows just because Flash doesn't work?
You could just download the flash content and convert it to a different format.

That doesn't work if the website is using flash for menus and whatnot.

That being said, I haven't had any problems with flash on my *nix box.

F.G.
November 20th, 2011, 03:30 PM
flash works fine for me.

Nakira89
November 20th, 2011, 03:39 PM
Linux Rocks but flash sucks, but 80% of web uses flash ,
so i am moving back to windows.:popcorn:. Peace at last.
Peace at last... with windows. :S

We'll see you back on here in a couple of months. :D

UsmanKhan
November 20th, 2011, 03:45 PM
Peace at last... with windows. :S

We'll see you back on here in a couple of months. :D

I will be very happy when that happens. :)

UsmanKhan
November 20th, 2011, 03:46 PM
Actually around 26% of the Websites use Flash and the trend is downwards since long ago:
http://w3techs.com/technologies/details/cp-flash/all/all

Flash flagship sites like YouTube are preparing their transition to HTML5:
https://www.youtube.com/html5

Adobe has abandoned the development of Flash Mobile, they know they have lost:
http://edition.cnn.com/2011/11/09/tech/mobile/adobe-mobile-flash-wired/index.html

Google is putting a nail in the coffin too:
http://www.google.com/doubleclick/studio/swiffy/extension.html

...

Yes, Flash sucks, that's why it won't last very long.

I am waiting for that moment. and then LInux will surpass windows in every aspect.:guitar:

Frogs Hair
November 20th, 2011, 04:06 PM
Linux Rocks but flash sucks, but 80% of web uses flash ,
so i am moving back to windows.:popcorn:. Peace at last.

Use what you wish , but why tell anyone about it ? Flash has worked well on the 5 releases of Ubuntu I have tried .

Kelvari
November 20th, 2011, 04:13 PM
Actually, I have to agree with UsmanKhan. On my current systems (including a dual-core 1.8 GHz CPU with 2 GB DDR2), Flash DOES suck in Ubuntu.

I've found it to be somewhat tolerable with Chromium instead of Firefox in Ubuntu, but it does run significantly better for me in Windows as well.

This is not meant to be taken as a complaint against Ubuntu - I know they have nothing to do with Flash development. Instead, just take it as my personal experience with hardware that some would consider "outdated" if not completely "obsolete", what with Intel having quad-core laptop chips and the like.

CharlesA
November 20th, 2011, 04:13 PM
Use what you wish , but why tell anyone about it ?

Attention.

effenberg0x0
November 20th, 2011, 06:13 PM
I can't detect any performance decrease when using flash on Windows or Ubuntu. There's a recent incompatibility between libGL.so.1 of NVidia driver 290.3 and libflashplayer.so that causes instant crash on some flash web sites, but that is solved by launching the browser with LD_PRELOAD pointing to mesa libGL (I posted this workaround in Ubuntu+1 section). This was fixed for the latest nvidia driver (290.6)

wolfen69
November 20th, 2011, 06:16 PM
What seems to be the problem? Flash in linux works great for me. No problems here. Although I still can't wait until it dies.

UsmanKhan
November 20th, 2011, 06:44 PM
Attention.

Well i have to register my complaints some were. Just seeing what right will not make the thing right.

If u look at all my threads, they are all about flash player.
My windows work great with flash but linux does not. that not my fault.

CharlesA
November 20th, 2011, 06:50 PM
Well i have to register my complaints some were. Just seeing what right will not make the thing right.

If u look at all my threads, they are all about flash player.
My windows work great with flash but linux does not. that not my fault.

True. Linux is temperamental for some people.

wolfen69
November 20th, 2011, 06:51 PM
Have you tried the Flash-Aid addon for Firefox?

CharlesA
November 20th, 2011, 06:52 PM
have you tried the flash-aid addon for firefox?
+1

Merk42
November 20th, 2011, 08:08 PM
Well i have to register my complaints some were. Just seeing what right will not make the thing right.

If u look at all my threads, they are all about flash player.
My windows work great with flash but linux does not. that not my fault.

It's not Ubuntu/Linux's fault either. Your complaints would better suited towards Adobe.

Can I have an example of some of these 80% of Flash using sites you visit? Regardless of Linux Flash performance, I'm surprised at such a high percentage using Flash.

yanom
November 20th, 2011, 08:25 PM
actually its the games market, not flash, that's holding Linux back from the mainstream. The process of software installation and ease-of-use have now ALMOST equaled Linux, in very polished distros such as *buntu and Linux Mint. We just need the latest games, and we're set. Desura's coming to linux, maybe others will follow.

SeijiSensei
November 20th, 2011, 09:12 PM
actually its the games market, not flash, that's holding Linux back from the mainstream

I see this comment repeatedly and can't help but observe how wrong it is. PC gaming is a small and declining share of the videogame market. According to the Entertainment Software Association (http://www.theesa.com/facts/pdfs/ESA_EF_2011.pdf), 2010 sales of PC video games in the US constituted about 25 million units; in contrast console games sold over 232 million units. The biggest growth area for gaming over the next decade will be portable platforms and smartphones.

The major factors that restrict the growth of Linux are the fact that it's not pre-installed on most computers, that it has interoperability issues with mainstream software like MS Office and Exchange/Outlook, and that it's not the same software people are using at the workplace. Support for gaming would be far down on the list of factors.

sdowney717
November 21st, 2011, 12:19 AM
For Ubuntu, I used to have serious flash problems mostly ran too slow.
With recent powerful core2duo and decent Nvidia card, flash mostly just works now.
Still get the odd FLASH CRASH on Chrome.

Windows media center gives me the most grief on a powerful quad core PC with windows 7 and 1 gb nvidia card. Sometimes it just stops responding.

pjd99
November 21st, 2011, 01:19 AM
Have you tried the Flash-Aid addon for Firefox?
Been using it for a few months, and I'm glad to say that the latest 64-bit release now only crashes Flash player instead of hard-locking the system. It sucks to have to sit and hope that the system doesn't freeze when watching a Youtube video.

Another one of the reasons I've been using Windows more and more lately.