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BuzzStPoint
October 20th, 2011, 02:36 PM
PC Specs:
1.8ghz Pentium 4
512 ram
Intel Corporation 82845G/GL[Brookdale-G]/GE Chipset Integrated Graphics Device (rev 03)


Wonder if you all can help me. I've used Linux in the past but not a lot.
I have an older PC that has Windows XP and wanted to try Linux. The cd drive is flaky in this machine so I wanted to use Wubi.

Here's what I did.
Downloaded Wubi and installed Ubuntu 10.04 Super slow.....
Then used Psychocats tutorial to remove Ubuntu, kubuntu, Xubuntu and Edbuntu

So now I'm at Lubuntu Lxde and it's still slow.
When I run free -m I get this:


buzz@ubuntu:~$ free -m
total used free shared buffers cached
Mem: 495 485 10 0 159 241
-/+ buffers/cache: 83 411
Swap: 255 75 180


and when i run top I get


top - 08:34:30 up 8 min, 0 users, load average: 0.39, 0.69, 0.46
Tasks: 91 total, 1 running, 89 sleeping, 0 stopped, 1 zombie
Cpu(s): 2.0%us, 1.0%sy, 0.0%ni, 97.0%id, 0.0%wa, 0.0%hi, 0.0%si, 0.0%st
Mem: 507324k total, 497324k used, 10000k free, 154764k buffers
Swap: 262140k total, 74964k used, 187176k free, 247204k cached

PID USER PR NI VIRT RES SHR S %CPU %MEM TIME+ COMMAND
866 root 20 0 42904 7452 4656 S 1.0 1.5 0:17.02 Xorg
1305 buzz 20 0 95780 11m 8912 S 1.0 2.2 0:01.50 lxterminal
1263 buzz 20 0 403m 72m 28m S 0.7 14.6 1:13.36 firefox
1054 ntp 20 0 3676 1208 1104 S 0.3 0.2 0:00.05 ntpd
1361 buzz 20 0 2792 1100 852 R 0.3 0.2 0:00.17 top
1 root 20 0 3324 1176 1176 S 0.0 0.2 0:00.86 init
2 root 20 0 0 0 0 S 0.0 0.0 0:00.00 kthreadd
3 root 20 0 0 0 0 S 0.0 0.0 0:00.06 ksoftirqd/0
4 root 20 0 0 0 0 S 0.0 0.0 0:00.46 kworker/0:0
5 root 20 0 0 0 0 S 0.0 0.0 0:00.57 kworker/u:0
6 root RT 0 0 0 0 S 0.0 0.0 0:00.00 migration/0
7 root 0 -20 0 0 0 S 0.0 0.0 0:00.00 cpuset
8 root 0 -20 0 0 0 S 0.0 0.0 0:00.00 khelper
9 root 0 -20 0 0 0 S 0.0 0.0 0:00.00 netns
10 root 20 0 0 0 0 S 0.0 0.0 0:00.00 sync_supers
11 root 20 0 0 0 0 S 0.0 0.0 0:00.00 bdi-default
12 root 0 -20 0 0 0 S 0.0 0.0 0:00.00 kintegrityd
13 root 0 -20 0 0 0 S 0.0 0.0 0:00.00 kblockd
14 root 0 -20 0 0 0 S 0.0 0.0 0:00.00 ata_sff
15 root 20 0 0 0 0 S 0.0 0.0 0:00.03 khubd
16 root 0 -20 0 0 0 S 0.0 0.0 0:00.00 md
19 root 20 0 0 0 0 S 0.0 0.0 0:00.00 khungtaskd
20 root 20 0 0 0 0 S 0.0 0.0 0:01.06 kswapd0


Can anyone help speed up the machine?
To me it looks like all the memory is being used.. But by what?

snowpine
October 20th, 2011, 03:04 PM
Welcome to the forums!

Can you be more specific about "slow"? There are many different ways a computer can be slow (booting, browsing the web, watching videos, opening applications, ripping multimedia, etc) and each will have a different solution. Are you sure it's not just slow because it's an old computer? :)

According to the outputs of free and top, you are barely using your RAM or CPU, so neither one of those is the culprit.

http://linuxatemyram.com

Have you tried other Linux options, such as a regular (non-WUBI) install of Lubuntu, or a lightweight distro such as Puppy Linux?

(edit) I suggest using the forum Search feature for your specific video card. Other users have suggested some tips & tricks to improve video performance.

BuzzStPoint
October 20th, 2011, 03:15 PM
Slow as in if I launch an application, Chrominium or firefox, it takes awhile for it to load up.
I created a new text document from right clicking on the desktop and about a minute later it loaded up.

Web browsing is slow, just any general use of the os seems at least 1.5 times slower then my XP install.

The link was great.. Explained alot.

Other installs?
Other then the Ubuntu no. I'm looking into how to install lubuntu from a USB because my CD drive seems to overheat. It will quit working if it's been used for awhile. Sometimes doesn't read any cd's.

Would a direct cd/usb install be better then a Wubi ubuntu downgraded install?

LinuxFan999
October 20th, 2011, 03:21 PM
Slow as in if I launch an application, Chrominium or firefox, it takes awhile for it to load up.
I created a new text document from right clicking on the desktop and about a minute later it loaded up.

Web browsing is slow, just any general use of the os seems at least 1.5 times slower then my XP install.

The link was great.. Explained alot.

Other installs?
Other then the Ubuntu no. I'm looking into how to install lubuntu from a USB because my CD drive seems to overheat. It will quit working if it's been used for awhile. Sometimes doesn't read any cd's.

Would a direct cd/usb install be better then a Wubi ubuntu downgraded install?
Yes, that would work better than Wubi. What is the Capacity of your computer's hard drive? How old is it?

snowpine
October 20th, 2011, 03:41 PM
Slow as in if I launch an application, Chrominium or firefox, it takes awhile for it to load up.
I created a new text document from right clicking on the desktop and about a minute later it loaded up.

Web browsing is slow, just any general use of the os seems at least 1.5 times slower then my XP install.

The link was great.. Explained alot.

Other installs?
Other then the Ubuntu no. I'm looking into how to install lubuntu from a USB because my CD drive seems to overheat. It will quit working if it's been used for awhile. Sometimes doesn't read any cd's.

Would a direct cd/usb install be better then a Wubi ubuntu downgraded install?

Your install-Ubuntu-and-convert-to-Lubuntu method is odd. I recommend you just do a plain regular install of Lubuntu and see what happens. A full install will take advantage of Linux filesystems and therefore speed up disk activity like launching an application or caching a web page. You should be able to create a Lubuntu Live USB from your current Lubuntu install using the "usb-creator" application available in the repos.

It is normal for Ubuntu to be slower than Windows XP. It's been 10 years since XP was released and it has much lower hardware requirements than modern Linux. :)

LinuxFan999
October 20th, 2011, 04:14 PM
no windows is just coded more efficent than linux
Seriously? I don't think so. For me, Linux is usually faster than Windows, except in Virtualbox.

Maro848
October 20th, 2011, 04:53 PM
I just set up an old dell with a pentium 3 500mhz cpu and 256mb of ram and dual booted Debian 6.03 and Xubuntu 11.04. Both are working faster than win XP ever did on this machine and Debian is even faster than Xubuntu (its the KDE interface if that helps). So for a lighter install I would say that one of those two would help. I know that a lot of people say the XFCE interface is not really "light" but it seems to work better than Lubuntu did on my machine. And the KDE even better than that. Hope this helped

BuzzStPoint
October 20th, 2011, 05:28 PM
OK update time..

Someone asked how big is the hard drive.
30 gigs

I booted back to Windows, and uninstalled Ubuntu.
Borrowed a cd drive, burnt Lubuntu to cd and just got done installing from CD.

Worlds of difference.
Boot up is faster
application launch is faster
Even as I type, the text is keeping up with me. before I would type a sentence and when I was done it was still typing.
Running now like I was expecting it to before.

verymadpip
October 20th, 2011, 05:36 PM
Niiiiiiiiiice.

Lubuntu rocks.

amjjawad
October 20th, 2011, 05:46 PM
Hello there and Thanks for choosing Lubuntu :)

LXDE will dazzle you and I'm talking from experience here, not from any website or any other source. LXDE will run on 64MB RAM and P2 366MHz while even XP will be dead slow on such hardware.
I have tested myself so YES, it's very much capable of that.

Wubi? I don't recommend that at all.
http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1650699

I strongly suggest to get rid of Ubuntu (I guess you already did) and install Lubuntu. Here are some useful links:

https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Lubuntu/InstallingLubuntu
https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Lubuntu/Documentation/FAQ/Guides

If you do have any question, please feel free to contact me any time you want.

Enjoy the real speed ;)

amjjawad
October 20th, 2011, 05:46 PM
Niiiiiiiiiice.

Lubuntu rocks.

and beyond ;)

snowpine
October 20th, 2011, 05:47 PM
Hooray! :)

BuzzStPoint
October 20th, 2011, 05:54 PM
Even with my Excel files, I use here at work. They are Xlsx files, the stock Gnumeric programs opens it up and doesn't complain. I made a copy, because I dont know if excel will like it if I open.

In Windows, Excel would take a bit to open. But not horrible slow. Gnumeric pops quickly.

Wondering if I shouldn't go for Open Office.

Rex Bouwense
October 20th, 2011, 06:29 PM
It depends upon what you need to do. I only create documents and spread sheets so I don't need all of the other stuff that Open Office or its replacement offers. One of the reasons that Lubuntu is so fast even on the older machines is that it doesn't have all of the hot shot programs that Ubuntu has installed. If you pick and choose what you need then you can keep the blazing fast speed.:D

BuzzStPoint
October 20th, 2011, 06:33 PM
My excel file is pretty detailed.
It's been my work in progress for about 8 years now.
I use it for testing and logging swimming pools and whirlpools. It's set up to look like the local state forms so I can just print to PDF and email to the county health.

amjjawad
October 20th, 2011, 07:59 PM
Give Open Office or whatever other alternatives you find a try. 512MB isn't too bad IMHO.

The best way to find out is to install and try, this is how I learned about which choice is better than the other, this is how I learned that, for me, Lubuntu is better than Ubuntu :)

BuzzStPoint
October 20th, 2011, 08:36 PM
I used apt-get install openoffice.org and it installed LibreOffice.
Seems nice and still edits my files.

Only issue I have is in MS office I have check boxes on 2 of my forms and they don't show. But I think those are MS proprietary code and in windows using OpenOffice they don't show either.

EddiePereira
November 18th, 2011, 02:44 AM
LXDE will dazzle you and I'm talking from experience here, not from any website or any other source. LXDE will run on 64MB RAM and P2 366MHz while even XP will be dead slow on such hardware.
I have tested myself so YES, it's very much capable of that.

Man, and I was afraid of trying it on my 10yo, 1.3GHz Celeron, 512 RAM and 20GB HD... Feel much more comfortable now :D

Rodney9
November 18th, 2011, 03:34 AM
Man, and I was afraid of trying it on my 10yo, 1.3GHz Celeron, 512 RAM and 20GB HD... Feel much more comfortable now :D

Welcome to the forums and Lubuntu.

For How-To's, Information and Screen-Casts on Lubuntu go to the -

- Lubuntu One Stop Thread - (http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1844755)

Rodney