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honeybear
October 1st, 2011, 10:22 PM
Hello,

I have to type lot of equations for collegue, and I would like to do it under Linux (without using wine), and then make it available to Word later (Microsoft).

I am looking then a Linux Equation Editor (compatible with powerpoint)?

I googled but nothing found. I would like a frontend (not latex), that looks like MS equation.

Have you eventually any ideas what I could use?


$ apt-cache search equation editor
abiword-plugin-mathview - equation editor plugin for AbiWord
texlive-latex-extra - TeX Live: LaTeX supplementary packages
openoffice.org-math - office productivity suite -- equation editor
openoffice.org - office productivity suite
abi-word is too basic
openoffice is very heavy to install.

I just would like sthg like MS equation editor for linux only, and nothing else...


Thank you very much !!

angryfirelord
October 1st, 2011, 11:08 PM
Well, you're probably going to have to use something like LaTeX. But as far as I know, the AbiWord plugin is LaTeX-compatible, so that should work. Here's the example I took from Wikipedia:


m = \frac{m_0}{\sqrt{1-\frac{v^2}{c^2}}}

You can save it as a .doc in Abiword and see if it open in Word.

Isaacgallegos
October 1st, 2011, 11:26 PM
http://www.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=z+%3D+sqrt%28x^2%2By^2%29

?

anewguy
October 1st, 2011, 11:28 PM
I'm not sure, just because I've never tried to do it, but I thought libreoffice math could do that, and you should be able use the resulting docs in presentation.

Dave ;)

dniMretsaM
October 1st, 2011, 11:28 PM
LibreOffice Math should work just fine:

sudo apt-get install libreoffice-mathThis installs just the math program, not the whole thing. OpenOffice.org has a math program also (pretty much the same). Use whichever you choose.

Also, I would recommend using LibreOffice Impress to do your presentation instead of PP (free software and open formats).


sudo apt-get install libreoffice-impress

entropy1
October 1st, 2011, 11:59 PM
With OpenOffice Impress, I like to add the extension OOoLatex

http://extensions.services.openoffice.org/en/project/ooolatex

Then you can type LaTeX commands into a dialog box in Impress, and you get the equation latexed and put into the slide. After installing the extension, you have to tell it where to find latex and ghostscript. On my system, they were both in /usr/bin. Also, if you can't find the toolbar with "Equation" "Expand" "Config", go to View --> Toolbars --> Add-On 1 (or other number). This extension works great on Linux, though I've never been able to use it successfully on Windows.

jacksaff
October 2nd, 2011, 02:57 AM
The latex plugins for open/libre office are your best bet. They replace your latex equation wtih a png image so the file should save and open in MS Office just fine.

If you are going to be doing a lot of equation writing learning latex is a must. Other equation editors seem easier to use at first, but latex is just a lot more powerful. As soon as you need to do anythiing more complicated than adding in one-line equations you'll be glad you made the effort to learn it.

Abhinav Kumar
October 2nd, 2011, 05:16 AM
I think the best way of typing any equation would be to use computer typesetting LATEX. A good software Kile is available. May be you have to learn some of d basics of LATEX. Enjoy :D

honeybear
October 2nd, 2011, 10:31 AM
LibreOffice Math should work just fine:

sudo apt-get install libreoffice-mathThis installs just the math program, not the whole thing. OpenOffice.org has a math program also (pretty much the same). Use whichever you choose.

Also, I would recommend using LibreOffice Impress to do your presentation instead of PP (free software and open formats).


sudo apt-get install libreoffice-impress


~# apt-get install openoffice.org-math
Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree
Reading state information... Done
The following extra packages will be installed:
libgraphite3 libhyphen0 libmythes-1.2-0 libraptor1 librasqal2 librdf0 libstlport4.6ldbl libtextcat-data-utf8 openoffice.org-common openoffice.org-core
openoffice.org-style-galaxy ttf-opensymbol uno-libs3 ure xfonts-mathml
Suggested packages:
raptor-utils rasqal-utils librdf-storage-postgresql librdf-storage-mysql librdf-storage-sqlite redland-utils openoffice.org-style-industrial
openoffice.org-style-hicontrast openoffice.org-style-tango openoffice.org-style-crystal openoffice.org-style-oxygen cli-uno-bridge otf-stix
The following NEW packages will be installed:
libgraphite3 libhyphen0 libmythes-1.2-0 libraptor1 librasqal2 librdf0 libstlport4.6ldbl libtextcat-data-utf8 openoffice.org-common openoffice.org-core
openoffice.org-math openoffice.org-style-galaxy ttf-opensymbol uno-libs3 ure xfonts-mathml
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200MB for a simple equation editor ... pfff

it is kind of exaggerated for a simple app

ok. I am making testing... I will post first impressions ;)




I think the best way of typing any equation would be to use computer typesetting LATEX. A good software Kile is available. May be you have to learn some of d basics of LATEX. Enjoy :D

this is something for geeks.
http://kile.sourceforge.net/images/screenshots/snap_refinsert.png

Latex has nothing to do with the regular word. And it is not used in any large companies. World is simpler than that :)

If you tell for most windows users to use latex instead of word, it would not work.

Luckily openoffice is there. Opensource and Linux are so cool

Zill
October 2nd, 2011, 12:53 PM
...200MB for a simple equation editor ... pfff...
I am slightly puzzled. OpenOffice, including the math equation editor, is installed by default in Ubuntu 10.04. Presumably, LibreOffice has the same functionality in later versions of Ubuntu.

So, you are not talking about 200MB for a "simple equation editor", but for a complete office suite!

angryfirelord
October 2nd, 2011, 02:08 PM
200MB for a simple equation editor ... pfff

it is kind of exaggerated for a simple app

ok. I am making testing... I will post first impressions ;)
Keep in mind that it's pulling in all of the core OpenOffice libraries, so if you were to install writer and calc, it wouldn't add that much to it. I agree with the above, if LaTeX is too much, use OpenOffice/LibreOffice.

Latex has nothing to do with the regular word. And it is not used in any large companies. World is simpler than that

If you tell for most windows users to use latex instead of word, it would not work.

Luckily openoffice is there. Opensource and Linux are so cool
Well, there are probably easier tools to use, but they probably aren't going to be free and they're not going to run on Linux.

dniMretsaM
October 2nd, 2011, 08:53 PM
I am slightly puzzled. OpenOffice, including the math equation editor, is installed by default in Ubuntu 10.04. Presumably, LibreOffice has the same functionality in later versions of Ubuntu.

So, you are not talking about 200MB for a "simple equation editor", but for a complete office suite!

No he's not. The largest part of the 200MiB is from the libreoffice-core package which is (obviously) the core of the program. Writer, Math, Impress, etc. are actually fairly small, but he's only installing Math, not Writer or anything else (although adding them wouldn't add a huge amount of data), so he isn't getting the entire suite.

Claus7
October 2nd, 2011, 08:58 PM
Hello,

even doing so the above, you end up using equations as images, as a result I do not know whether you will be able to modify them afterwards. Not bad, yet not the best. I do not know whether there is 100% compatibility.

+1 for kile. Very nice interface, very nice latex editor.

Regards!

angryfirelord
October 2nd, 2011, 09:06 PM
Hmm, I just did some searching and it looks like there's an equation editor built into PowerPoint: http://www.dummies.com/how-to/content/write-equations-in-powerpoint-2007.html

I have no idea if it's any good.

Zill
October 2nd, 2011, 09:14 PM
No he's not. The largest part of the 200MiB is from the libreoffice-core package which is (obviously) the core of the program. Writer, Math, Impress, etc. are actually fairly small, but he's only installing Math, not Writer or anything else (although adding them wouldn't add a huge amount of data), so he isn't getting the entire suite.
Sorry, my apologies...
I should have said "...but for almost a complete office suite!". ;-)

dniMretsaM
October 2nd, 2011, 11:47 PM
Sorry, my apologies...
I should have said "...but for almost a complete office suite!". ;-)

No need for apologies. You were mostly correct, as he was installing pretty much everything he would need to run the entire suite. I just figured it would be best to clarify. Nice avatar by the way.

gatorbrit
October 3rd, 2011, 01:13 AM
I battled this issue for the longest time. The bottom line is that you can get powerpoint to run in wine - at least I could get ppt 2002 working OK. THe equation editor would work fine - it would also work for word. But later versions of ms office programs really never worked that well in either wine or cross over office.

The solution, at least for presentations, was to use Latex - but I use Lyx www.lyx.org as the front end. It is super easy and using the "beamer" class, you can make really slick presentations that look much better IMHO than powerpoint.

I actually now use Mac OS lion as my main OS, but I still us Lyx for presentations.

As for equations in documents - if you are not sharing with other people, then libreoffice is great, but once you start sharing docs and folks are using different versions of word, things start to fall apart.

Best of luck

beew
October 3rd, 2011, 01:57 AM
There is an equation plugin called dmaths which works with OpenOffice and LibreOffice 3.4.x.
http://www.dmaths.org/

If you are on Maverick the dmaths package for OOO is in the repository.

Unfortunately Ubuntu11.04 comes with LibreOfice 3.3.x and there is no dmaths package for it in the repository, the dmaths package for it from dmaths.org apparently doesn't work, so you would need to remove the LO3.3 packages first and install the .debs for LibreOffice 3.4.3 manually and then install the dmaths package (34) from dmaths.org. You can find the debs in the LO website.

honeybear
October 3rd, 2011, 07:37 AM
The solution from openoffice is a kind of coding thing again, sort of pseudo frontend of latex equation.

I would be looking for a real equation editor like normal mathematic programs.
http://media.wiley.com/Lux/49/75449.image4.jpg?h=400&w=535

Visibly Linux likes latex... :(

maybe good programs are not opensource... I do not know..