toowoombalinux
August 23rd, 2011, 01:06 AM
G'day, {probably posted in wrong section!!!}
I love Puppy Linux - it's a beautiful speed freak! But there's many things it take's a CLI god to achieve. So I love Ubuntu as well.
But Puppy does all things well in under 64mbs. Whereas, Ubuntu uses .... I understand that it's chalk and cheese as Ubu has layers of daemons running to make life easier (which it does).
Why not Lubuntu? ... I run a business and do regular work with a local volunteer charity (a Linux Community) - I need an efficient Desktop ... Lubuntu ain't that - tried it and after many consults to the forum for confiurations gave up! Puppy's JWM ain't like that.
Looking at Puppy you realise that a well tweaked JWM config and a well teaked ROX file manager can create an easy to use (and efficient) environment to use.
I like pre-configured ... I don't have the time to pre-configure ... I need an efficient and fast workplace/workspace/Desktop ... I like the fire and forget forumula - and many non-computer users do as well. In my industry I see many computers - and many of them are XP - and many of them would even struggle with Xubuntu (one of the best pre-configured environments for semi-old computers).
I have heard that LXDE is easier to use as it nicely integrates applications (not my experience) and that JWM needs more configuration tweaks to make it run nicely... well Puppy's pre-configured JWM is actually easier than LXDE, and uses less resources. My mother-in-law (she's 80) uses Puppy JWM - and it was easy to teach her.
But isn't Puppy is now compatible with the Ubuntu repos? .. they call it Puppy Lucid but it ain't fully compatible. They've incorporated some of the Ubuntu binaries so a number of recently compiled packages for Ubuntu may be transferred over to Puppy ... maybe! (it states that Ubuntu .debs should be left for experimenters).
Minino .... hardware probs! AntiX - nice but I felt that I have to learn to drive again. Arch ... awesome but time (perhaps patience) and expertise lacking! And plz don't mention #!...
I experiment with Electronic dance music - getting Puppy to run Jack-Rack Ardour/Rosegarden, Hydrogen LMMS, tuxguitar and Zynaddsub together with MIDI has been impossible - Ubu does it without thinking! And installing those apps was a dream in Ubu!
So here's the rub....
Been looking for a JWM Ubuntu distro - can't find one! So how does one go about finding a group of people who are willing to create this. As I see an advantage for myself I would contribute 6 years of Puppy Linux experience (however I'm a coding klutz - some bash, wxbasic and xdialog only! ... plz don't laugh).
I believe that a tweaked JWM Ubuntu would run on a 200MHz 64mbs machine. I tested JWM on a minCD ubuntu 8.04 install. The basic setup used around 40mbs - so that goal is possible.
Why this goal? Cos ppl with that computer spec chuck em out. I know there's at least 1% of the population is homeless and many of these have families. I've talked to the Salvos and said they would be honoured and relieved if a local group could give reconditioned computers to these families in crisis so at least their kids would have a computer for schooling. A JWM Ubuntu fits that bill nicely.
Cheer
Martin
PS. The local Linux Community is not hugely active or has the necessary expertise to achieve an outcome for a project like this ... so I've come here! :P
I love Puppy Linux - it's a beautiful speed freak! But there's many things it take's a CLI god to achieve. So I love Ubuntu as well.
But Puppy does all things well in under 64mbs. Whereas, Ubuntu uses .... I understand that it's chalk and cheese as Ubu has layers of daemons running to make life easier (which it does).
Why not Lubuntu? ... I run a business and do regular work with a local volunteer charity (a Linux Community) - I need an efficient Desktop ... Lubuntu ain't that - tried it and after many consults to the forum for confiurations gave up! Puppy's JWM ain't like that.
Looking at Puppy you realise that a well tweaked JWM config and a well teaked ROX file manager can create an easy to use (and efficient) environment to use.
I like pre-configured ... I don't have the time to pre-configure ... I need an efficient and fast workplace/workspace/Desktop ... I like the fire and forget forumula - and many non-computer users do as well. In my industry I see many computers - and many of them are XP - and many of them would even struggle with Xubuntu (one of the best pre-configured environments for semi-old computers).
I have heard that LXDE is easier to use as it nicely integrates applications (not my experience) and that JWM needs more configuration tweaks to make it run nicely... well Puppy's pre-configured JWM is actually easier than LXDE, and uses less resources. My mother-in-law (she's 80) uses Puppy JWM - and it was easy to teach her.
But isn't Puppy is now compatible with the Ubuntu repos? .. they call it Puppy Lucid but it ain't fully compatible. They've incorporated some of the Ubuntu binaries so a number of recently compiled packages for Ubuntu may be transferred over to Puppy ... maybe! (it states that Ubuntu .debs should be left for experimenters).
Minino .... hardware probs! AntiX - nice but I felt that I have to learn to drive again. Arch ... awesome but time (perhaps patience) and expertise lacking! And plz don't mention #!...
I experiment with Electronic dance music - getting Puppy to run Jack-Rack Ardour/Rosegarden, Hydrogen LMMS, tuxguitar and Zynaddsub together with MIDI has been impossible - Ubu does it without thinking! And installing those apps was a dream in Ubu!
So here's the rub....
Been looking for a JWM Ubuntu distro - can't find one! So how does one go about finding a group of people who are willing to create this. As I see an advantage for myself I would contribute 6 years of Puppy Linux experience (however I'm a coding klutz - some bash, wxbasic and xdialog only! ... plz don't laugh).
I believe that a tweaked JWM Ubuntu would run on a 200MHz 64mbs machine. I tested JWM on a minCD ubuntu 8.04 install. The basic setup used around 40mbs - so that goal is possible.
Why this goal? Cos ppl with that computer spec chuck em out. I know there's at least 1% of the population is homeless and many of these have families. I've talked to the Salvos and said they would be honoured and relieved if a local group could give reconditioned computers to these families in crisis so at least their kids would have a computer for schooling. A JWM Ubuntu fits that bill nicely.
Cheer
Martin
PS. The local Linux Community is not hugely active or has the necessary expertise to achieve an outcome for a project like this ... so I've come here! :P