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lucazade
August 10th, 2011, 12:46 PM
The year 2008 marks the 10th Anniversary of the iMac, the computer that changed everything at Apple, hailing a new design era spearheaded by design genius Jonathan Ive. What most people don't know is that there's another man whose products are at the heart of Ive's design philosophy, an influence that permeates every single product at Apple, from hardware to user-interface design. That man is Dieter Rams, and his old designs for Braun during the '50s and '60s hold all the clues not only for past and present Apple products, but their future as well:

When you look at the Braun products by Dieter Rams—many of them at New York's MoMA—and compare them to Ive's work at Apple, you can clearly see the similarities in their philosophies way beyond the sparse use of color, the selection of materials and how the products are shaped around the function with no artificial design, keeping the design "honest."

http://gizmodo.com/assets/resources/2008/01/imac-comp.jpg

http://gizmodo.com/assets/resources/2008/01/powermac-comp.jpg

http://gizmodo.com/assets/resources/2008/01/powermac-comp2.jpg

http://gizmodo.com/assets/resources/2008/01/ipod-comp.jpg

http://gizmodo.com/assets/resources/2008/01/ipod-hifi.jpg

http://gizmodo.com/assets/resources/2008/01/mac-speaker.jpg

original thread: http://gizmodo.com/343641/1960s-braun-products-hold-the-secrets-to-apples-future


Steve Jobs, 1996: "Good Artists Copy, Great Artists Steal"

krapp
August 10th, 2011, 01:11 PM
Thanks for this. I had no idea. Makes a lot of sense after all.

zekopeko
August 10th, 2011, 03:04 PM
I just hope more companies follow in Dieter Rams' footsteps.

Bandit
August 10th, 2011, 03:07 PM
LOL they are eery similar, maybe little to similar.. lol

Evil-Ernie
August 10th, 2011, 03:56 PM
LOL they are eery similar, maybe little to similar.. lol

Maybe Braun can block Apple products being sold in Europe like what Apple have done to the Galaxy Tab LOL

Ric_NYC
August 10th, 2011, 07:17 PM
WOW!

Amazing!

Ric_NYC
August 10th, 2011, 07:18 PM
Maybe Braun can block Apple products being sold in Europe like what Apple have done to the Galaxy Tab LOL



Apple should taste its own medicine... LOL

KiwiNZ
August 10th, 2011, 07:39 PM
Maybe Braun can block Apple products being sold in Europe like what Apple have done to the Galaxy Tab LOL

There is a big difference between design influence and straight copying ;)

realzippy
August 10th, 2011, 07:44 PM
We have always been shameless about stealing great ideas
Steve Jobs

Bandit
August 10th, 2011, 07:52 PM
There is a big difference between design influence and straight copying ;)

It wouldnt be copying no more then GMC making cars and trucks when Ford MoCo started it all. Now if they looked exactly like Ipads and the OS loos exactly like the Ipad OS. Then it would be copying with intent to defraud. But since its not the exact same hardware and has the android OS on it. Its just another toaster oven.. If Apple is trying to stop selling of alternatives then they take a huge chance of being charges with conspiracy to establish a monopoly.

KiwiNZ
August 10th, 2011, 08:21 PM
It wouldnt be copying no more then GMC making cars and trucks when Ford MoCo started it all. Now if they looked exactly like Ipads and the OS loos exactly like the Ipad OS. Then it would be copying with intent to defraud. But since its not the exact same hardware and has the android OS on it. Its just another toaster oven.. If Apple is trying to stop selling of alternatives then they take a huge chance of being charges with conspiracy to establish a monopoly.

In todays climate if the Motor Vehicle industry was just starting we would have only one company.

I do believe Samsung knew they were copying and knew they were pushing the limits and probably thought it was worth the risk. They could have avoided this if they had added some design individuality to the Android system and come up with something unique.

Having said that I wish all the Corporate litigation and Government litigation would stop and they all got on and did what they do best .

lucazade
August 10th, 2011, 08:35 PM
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I do believe Samsung knew they were copying and knew they were pushing the limits and probably thought it was worth the risk. They could have avoided this if they had added some design individuality to the Android system and come up with something unique.
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Ipad patent is about "a rectangle with a headphone plug" and apple is using this against the Galaxy Tab... not so easy to make a different device, a rectangle!

Registration document of community design 000181607-0001 (Apple's iPad), enforced against Samsung
Community Design 000181607-0001 (http://pt.scribd.com/doc/61944044/Community-Design-000181607-0001)
(site is currently under maintenance.. contains a copy of patent registration)

KiwiNZ
August 10th, 2011, 09:26 PM
Ipad patent is about "a rectangle with a headphone plug" and apple is using this against the Galaxy Tab... not so easy to make a different device, a rectangle!

Registration document of community design 000181607-0001 (Apple's iPad), enforced against Samsung
Community Design 000181607-0001 (http://pt.scribd.com/doc/61944044/Community-Design-000181607-0001)
(site is currently under maintenance.. contains a copy of patent registration)

Yet Acer Archos did it. ;)

cprofitt
August 11th, 2011, 01:23 AM
There is a big difference between design influence and straight copying ;)

I assume you have some inside information that would substantiate your claim that straight copying happened with Samsung? On my end I have found the public briefs to be lacking in sufficient detail to even hint at such a claim.

I think this video says it all about Jobs:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CW0DUg63lqU

PhillyPhil
August 11th, 2011, 01:53 AM
There is a big difference between design influence and straight copying ;)
Quite right, and no-one should be sued for design influence.


In todays climate if the Motor Vehicle industry was just starting we would have only one company.
True, and a good indication of the horrible state of patent law in the US.


Yet Acer Archos did it. :wink:
More accurately, Acer and Archos haven't been sued. Doesn't mean Apple agree with you.