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BrokeBody
May 24th, 2006, 02:32 AM
From where Ubuntu is coming from? On DistroWatch (http://distrowatch.com/) in the origin line it says: Isle of Man. http://distrowatch.com/table.php?distribution=ubuntu

From where Ubuntu is coming from? I heard that it comes from Nigeria.:???:

Ob1
May 24th, 2006, 02:38 AM
Ubuntu (IPA: /ùbúntú/) is a sub-Saharan African ethic or ideology focusing on people's allegiances and relations with each other. The word has its origin in the Bantu languages of Southern Africa. Ubuntu is seen as a traditional African concept.


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Iandefor
May 24th, 2006, 03:00 AM
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Isle_of_Man

The Isle of Man (Ellan Vannin in Manx (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Manx_language)) or Mann (Mannin in Manx), is an island (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Island) located in the Irish Sea (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Irish_Sea) at the geographical centre of Britain and Ireland (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Britain_and_Ireland). Although it is not part of the United Kingdom (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_Kingdom), it is a Crown dependency (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crown_dependency).

Clay85
May 24th, 2006, 04:10 AM
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Isle_of_Man

The Isle of Man (Ellan Vannin in Manx (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Manx_language)) or Mann (Mannin in Manx), is an island (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Island) located in the Irish Sea (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Irish_Sea) at the geographical centre of Britain and Ireland (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Britain_and_Ireland). Although it is not part of the United Kingdom (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_Kingdom), it is a Crown dependency (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crown_dependency).


That looks like what happens when I use Trillian (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trillian) on my WinXP box. (Trillian underlines Wikipedia entries.)

I really miss Trillian when I switch to Ubuntu. :(

Iandefor
May 24th, 2006, 04:23 AM
That looks like what happens when I use Trillian (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trillian) on my WinXP box. (Trillian underlines Wikipedia entries.)

I really miss Trillian when I switch to Ubuntu. :( I just copied and pasted the first paragraph :).

BrokeBody
May 24th, 2006, 10:37 AM
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/a/a8/BritishIslesMan.png

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RAV TUX
May 24th, 2006, 01:55 PM
From where Ubuntu is coming from? On DistroWatch (http://distrowatch.com/) in the origin line it says: Isle of Man. http://distrowatch.com/table.php?distribution=ubuntu

From where Ubuntu is coming from? I heard that it comes from Nigeria.:???:

Ubuntu country of origin is the Isle of Man.

Ubuntu founder; Mark Shuttleworth, country of origin is South Africa.



















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BrokeBody
May 24th, 2006, 02:02 PM
[QUOTE=yozef]Ubuntu country of origin is the [B]Isle of Man.

Ubuntu founder; Mark Shuttleworth, country of origin is South Africa.

So, is it from Isle of Man or from South Africa?

mostwanted
May 24th, 2006, 02:06 PM
It's kinda strange discussing where something is from when it's being out together by individuals all around the earth. Whether you think it's from SA or Isle of Man is a question of semantics.

Deanodriver
May 24th, 2006, 02:27 PM
I always thought that while Mark Shuttleworth is from South Africa, Canonical is based on the Isle of Man (and viewing the Canonical website confirms this, go to Contact us, and it's an Isle of Man address).

curuxz
May 24th, 2006, 03:17 PM
Mark Shuttleworth is from South Africa hence using the word Ubuntu, however he put Cononical on the Isle of Man for the same reason that many many compaines are registered there, its a tax haven. They may have sighted other 'offical' reasons but I can asure you there is only one advantage to having your head office on that Island. As far as I know Cononical has offices in several other locations.

So in short, legaly Ubuntu is from the Isle of Man but I doubt much happens there since the development team are global. Hope that clears it up :)

RAV TUX
May 26th, 2006, 02:54 AM
[quote=yozef]Ubuntu country of origin is the [b]Isle of Man.

Ubuntu founder; Mark Shuttleworth, country of origin is South Africa.

So, is it from Isle of Man or from South Africa?


Ubuntu's origin is from the planet Earth, hence Ubuntu: Linux for Human Beings.







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BrokeBody
May 26th, 2006, 12:06 PM
Thank you everyone.

bruce89
May 26th, 2006, 12:08 PM
The Isle of Man is a tax haven, so that is why the company is based there I think.

cbudden
May 27th, 2006, 02:11 AM
There is also no speed limits on out of town roads.

RAV TUX
May 27th, 2006, 02:23 AM
The Isle of Man (Ellan Vannin in Manx (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Manx_language)) or Mann (Mannin in Manx), is an island (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Island) located in the Irish Sea (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Irish_Sea) at the geographical centre of Britain and Ireland (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Britain_and_Ireland). Although it is not part of the United Kingdom (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_Kingdom), it is a Crown dependency (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crown_dependency).

Crown dependencies are possessions of the British Crown (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Crown), as opposed to overseas territories (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/British_overseas_territory) or colonies (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Colony) of the United Kingdom (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_Kingdom). They comprise the Channel Island (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Channel_Islands) bailiwicks (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bailiwick) of Jersey (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jersey) and Guernsey (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Guernsey) and the Isle of Man (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Isle_of_Man) in the Irish Sea (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Irish_Sea).
None form a part of the United Kingdom, being separate jurisdictions, nor do they form part of the European Union (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/European_Union). All three Crown Dependencies are members of the British-Irish Council (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/British-Irish_Council). From 2005, all three Crown Dependencies each have a Chief Minister (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chief_Minister) as head of government (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Head_of_government). However, as they are possessions of the British Crown they are not sovereign nations in their own right.



The Isle of Man is a self-governing crown dependency (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crown_dependency). The head of state (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Head_of_state) is the Lord of Mann (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lord_of_Mann) who is the British Sovereign, currently Her Majesty The Queen (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elizabeth_II_of_the_United_Kingdom); her title on the Island is Lord of Mann (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lord_of_Mann). She is represented by the Island's Lieutenant Governor (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lieutenant_Governor). The United Kingdom (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_Kingdom) is responsible for the Island's defence and for representing the Island in international forums, while the Island's own parliament (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Parliament) has competence over almost all domestic matters.
The Island's parliament is Tynwald (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tynwald) (Tinvaal), which dates from 979 A.D - the oldest parliament currently still active anywhere in the world. Tynwald is a tricameral legislature, comprising the House of Keys (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/House_of_Keys) (directly elected by universal suffrage) and the Legislative Council (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Legislative_Council_%28Isle_of_Man%29) (consisting of indirectly elected and ex officio members). Furthermore, when these two bodies meet together the third chamber, called Tynwald, is formed. There is a Council of Ministers (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Council_of_Ministers), which is headed by the Chief Minister (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chief_Minister_of_the_Isle_of_Man), currently Donald Gelling (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Donald_Gelling) MLC (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MLC).
As of 2005, the Island's system of government is under review — there are plans to transform the Legislative Council (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Legislative_Council) into a directly-elected chamber, echoing the push for reform in the UK's House of Lords (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/House_of_Lords) and the abolition of indirectly elected Conseillers in Guernsey (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Guernsey). To date, no legislation has successfully passed through the House of Keys (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/House_of_Keys) and given the fact that the issue has been high up the political agenda for over a decade, change does not seem to be forthcoming in the short term. This was reinforced by the political retirement of one of the main proposers of change, Edgar Quine (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Edgar_Quine). In October 2005 Tynwald accepted a proposal to change the title of the Lieutenant Governor (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lieutenant_Governor) to Crown Commissioner (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crown_Commissioner) or Barrantagh y Chrooin (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barrantagh_y_Chrooin) in Manx (the title would also be "Barrantagh ny Benrein," or "Queen's Commissioner"; when there is a King it will be "Barrantagh ny Ree," or "King's Commissioner"). The proposal now has to go to London for approval, but the United Kingdom Department for Constitutional Affairs indicated early in 2005 that this was likely to be given. However, recent developments have suggested that the issue may be decided on the basis of an Island wide referendum.



A common misconception exists that Mann forms part of the United Kingdom (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_Kingdom). Under British law (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/British_law) it does not, although the United Kingdom (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_Kingdom) takes care of its external and defence affairs. The Isle of Man had a dispute with the European Court of Human Rights (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/European_Court_of_Human_Rights) in the 1970s because it was reluctant to change its laws concerning birching (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Birching) (corporal punishment for male offenders). The law on sodomy (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sodomy_law) might have also led down this road had it not been changed in the early 1990s.
The Isle of Man holds neither membership nor associate membership of the European Union (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/European_Union), and lies outside the European Economic Area (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/European_Economic_Area) (EEA). Nonetheless, Protocol Three of the treaty of accession of the United Kingdom (http://www.bmdf.co.uk/ukaccessiontreaty.pdf) permits trade for Manx goods without non-EU tariffs. In conjunction with the Customs and Excise agreement with the UK, this facilitates free trade with the UK. While Manx goods can be freely moved within the EEA, people, capital and services cannot.
There is no Manx citizenship. Manx people are classed as British citizens (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/British_nationality_law) but those defined as Manx under Protocol Three have a special endorsement placed in their passports preventing them from freely living or working in EU states. Those Manx persons with a parent or grandparent born in the United Kingdom (England, Scotland, Wales and Northern Ireland), or who have lived in the UK for 5 years, are not subject to this provision.
The restriction on free movement of persons is anomalous in that the treaty establishing the EU (formerly EEC (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/EEC)) clearly states that all citizens of member states will also be citizens of the EU. However a special protocol was inserted in the Treaty of Accession of the United Kingdom excluding the Channel Islands (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Channel_Islands) and Isle of Man from the provisions governing free movement of people. This was done at the request of the governments of Jersey (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jersey), Guernsey (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Guernsey) and the Isle of Man at the time.
Travel to the Isle of Man is regulated by the local government laws, although the Isle of Man is part of the Common Travel Area (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Common_Travel_Area). Visitors from countries who require a UK visa may also require a special Manx visa, obtainable from a British diplomatic mission. All non-Manx, including UK citizens, are required to obtain a work permit to take up employment on the Island.



http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Isle_of_Man

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Local_government_in_the_Isle_of_Manhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Local_government_in_the_Isle_of_Man




There is a mix of culture and people living on the Isle of Man. From the native Manx to immigrants from South Africa, the island is as mixed as the United Kingdom and flourishes because of it. Most people are of Irish, Welsh, Scottish and British descent, but this is expected due to the location of the island between the United Kingdom and Ireland. The island has seen large numbers of immigrants in recent years, but there are still plenty of locals. The Manx are of Celtic and Viking descent. This has greatly effected the culture on the island, which has strong roots in Celtic and Viking traditions.

The standard of living on the island is very good. There is almost no unemployment and strong community spirit. Many compare life on the island to be much like it is in northern England or Wales, and they would not be far wrong. The Isle of Man is a scene of small sea side towns and villages with a quiet and more relaxed way of life. Where things get done in their own time.

The Isle of Man has a very low crime rate. This could be due to a mixture of low unemployment and high community spirit. The island does tend to take a very hard line on criminal offences. Even small crimes are often given high fines or jail time.

There is a National Health scheme on the Isle of Man. It resembles that of the UK, but does not have the long waiting lists. Most of the general treatments and surgeries are done on the island, but for more complicated procedures the Isle of Man Government sends patients to the UK for private treatment there.

The Education system on the Isle of Man runs much like that of the UK. Students attend school from 4/5 years to 16 years with an optional additional two. Exams for SAT, GCSE, and A level are the same as in the UK, except for the native language Manx, which has its own exams. One minor difference is that French is taught from 8 years old. There is a mix of culture and people living on the Isle of Man. From the native Manx to immigrants from South Africa, the island is as mixed as the United Kingdom and flourishes because of it. Most people are of Irish, Welsh, Scottish and British descent, but this is expected due to the location of the island between the United Kingdom and Ireland. The island has seen large numbers of immigrants in recent years, but there are still plenty of locals. The Manx are of Celtic and Viking descent. This has greatly effected the culture on the island, which has strong roots in Celtic and Viking traditions.

The standard of living on the island is very good. There is almost no unemployment and strong community spirit. Many compare life on the island to be much like it is in northern England or Wales, and they would not be far wrong. The Isle of Man is a scene of small sea side towns and villages with a quiet and more relaxed way of life. Where things get done in their own time.

The Isle of Man has a very low crime rate. This could be due to a mixture of low unemployment and high community spirit. The island does tend to take a very hard line on criminal offences. Even small crimes are often given high fines or jail time.

There is a National Health scheme on the Isle of Man. It resembles that of the UK, but does not have the long waiting lists. Most of the general treatments and surgeries are done on the island, but for more complicated procedures the Isle of Man Government sends patients to the UK for private treatment there.

The Education system on the Isle of Man runs much like that of the UK. Students attend school from 4/5 years to 16 years with an optional additional two. Exams for SAT, GCSE, and A level are the same as in the UK, except for the native language Manx, which has its own exams. One minor difference is that French is taught from 8 years old.

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Dr. C
May 27th, 2006, 02:59 AM
The origin of Ubuntu is South African but its legal domicile is the Isle of Mann.

I can see many reasons apart from taxes why the Isle of Mann was chosen, among them I just don't see the Isle of Mann approving legislation along the lines of the Unites States Digital Millennium Copyright Act or allowing patents on loosely defined business ideas incorporated in software, but I may be wrong.

ubuntu27
May 27th, 2006, 04:33 AM
From the Wikipedia: Famous Residents in Isle of Man (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Isle_of_Man#Famous_residents):



Ubuntu (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ubuntu_Linux)- a Linux distribution that is distributed by Canonical Ltd (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Canonical_Ltd), headquartered in the Isle of Man (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Isle_of_Man).

EDIT: Mark Shuttleworth (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mark_Shuttleworth) has his own Webpage: http://www.markshuttleworth.com/