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d3fau1t
June 6th, 2011, 02:33 AM
Check this out:

http://www.geekwire.com/2011/windows-8-radical-change-windows-huge-gamble-microsoft

Look at the purple "Store" graphic in the bottom left.

TELL me that doesn't look like Ubuntu's graphic style. It looks like it came straight off an Ubuntu desktop!

cgroza
June 6th, 2011, 02:35 AM
The word "Start" in the corner is so Ubuntu style!

d3fau1t
June 6th, 2011, 02:41 AM
You're right!

In fact, the entire "making the desktop screen look like a tablet or device" is pretty much copying Ubuntu, too, isn't it? :)

TheSuperSteve
June 6th, 2011, 02:52 AM
The Windows logo as well! Look at it! I cant believe this! They're totally ripping off Ubuntu!

Dustin2128
June 6th, 2011, 02:56 AM
don't see the resemblance besides the purplish theme. If it begins to look more like ubuntu than can be attributed to independent design, though, we should ask for attribution.

d3fau1t
June 6th, 2011, 02:59 AM
The Windows logo as well! Look at it! I cant believe this! They're totally ripping off Ubuntu!

And a poor knock-off it is!

Maybe their thinking is that if they copy us, people who use Ubuntu after using Windows 8 will think WE copied THEM? That Ubuntu is the knock-off?

jcolyn
June 6th, 2011, 03:05 AM
A purple background with the word "store" and a Microsoft badged sack in no way resembles Ubuntu art to me..................

themarker0
June 6th, 2011, 03:07 AM
Time to call the cops! We got hard evidence this time.

d3fau1t
June 6th, 2011, 03:08 AM
@jcolyn: Are you kidding? It looks exactly like Ubuntu!

Same styling, same purple, similar font in "Start", even same stylization of their logo...

It's obvious.

Khakilang
June 6th, 2011, 04:15 AM
Its free and open source. They can do anything they want.

Copper Bezel
June 6th, 2011, 04:57 AM
Branding isn't, but then, I don't see anything in the Windows 8 artwork that looks like anything related to Ubuntu. It takes some cues from web design conventions and trends, and Ubuntu has a website. = )

d3fau1t
June 6th, 2011, 05:20 AM
Look harder, Copper.

It's pretty obvious.

TheSuperSteve
June 6th, 2011, 05:31 AM
Seriously, imitation is a form of flattery, sure. But this is ridiculous! At this point, i cant tell which OS is which!

jrothwell97
June 6th, 2011, 02:24 PM
Oh my GOD! It's as if a shopping bag icon was somehow synonymous with a "store"!

A heresy! Blatant theft from Microsoft! Bring out the DMCA claims! Send in the cease-and-desist letters! Wheel out Carter-Ruck!

[Joking aside, it looks almost nothing like Ubuntu. It's got a purple background by default, and it uses a shopping-bag metaphor for its app store/package manager. That's it.]

Merk42
June 6th, 2011, 02:29 PM
TELL me that doesn't look like Ubuntu's graphic style. It looks like it came straight off an Ubuntu desktop!We are, you don't seem to want to listen.
A bag with the logo for a software center (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Android_Market.png) wasn't created by Ubuntu, also Segoe (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Segoe) is different from Ubuntu (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ubuntu_font)

Giant Speck
June 6th, 2011, 02:35 PM
Canonical owns the rights to all concepts of desktop art and everyone else is stealing from them!

Simian Man
June 6th, 2011, 02:50 PM
I didn't realize you could copyright purple.

sectshun8
June 6th, 2011, 03:00 PM
To me the whole design they are showing of Windows 8 looks much more similar to how Windows Media Center operated and ran. Just looks like they took media center and turned it into the whole OS.

RiceMonster
June 6th, 2011, 03:04 PM
This isn't the first time they've copied Ubuntu! You need a keyboard and mouse to operate windows. Same thing with Ubuntu! Canonical should sue!

Canis familiaris
June 6th, 2011, 03:05 PM
This has broken 20,619 patents of Canonical. Sue them.

forrestcupp
June 6th, 2011, 03:10 PM
I didn't realize you could copyright purple.
Lol. That's exactly what I was about to say.

Every color in the spectrum is used by some distro or some company out there in the world.

When computers are turned off, their screens are black. I guess that means every computer in the world is ripping off Sabayon Linux.

RiceMonster
June 6th, 2011, 03:13 PM
When computers are turned off, their screens are black. I guess that means every computer in the world is ripping off Sabayon Linux.

Lol.

Canis familiaris
June 6th, 2011, 03:15 PM
When computers are turned off, their screens are black. I guess that means every computer in the world is ripping off Sabayon Linux.

lol brilliant

Jesus_Valdez
June 6th, 2011, 03:17 PM
Aubergine is the new blue.

aaaantoine
June 6th, 2011, 05:01 PM
Looks more like Windows 7 Phone has come to the desktop.

forrestcupp
June 6th, 2011, 06:26 PM
Looks more like Windows 7 Phone has come to the desktop.

I guess the Windows Phone 7 department of Microsoft should sue the Windows 8 department. :)

Oxwivi
June 6th, 2011, 06:33 PM
I guess the Windows Phone 7 department of Microsoft should sue the Windows 8 department. :)
++ I would love to see something like that. Anyway to instigate it?

ctrlmd
June 6th, 2011, 06:50 PM
#-o

Quadunit404
June 6th, 2011, 07:52 PM
When computers are turned off, their screens are black. I guess that means every computer in the world is ripping off Sabayon Linux.

No! Worse than that! They're ripping off SPACE! They therefore owe space the combined cost of every singe computer and OS disc sold in the world!!! This is an outrage!

lulled
June 6th, 2011, 07:58 PM
Windows, MacOS and Ubuntu: they all copy a little something from each other. The first time I ever saw that W8 artwork, honestly I couldn't tell they ripped something off of Ubuntu. Now, reading those comments, indeed there is something of Ubuntu here and there. But I wouldn't say they just ripped off, it just looks modern to me, just like Ubuntu looks modern to me too.

frotzed
June 6th, 2011, 08:12 PM
Its free and open source. They can do anything they want.

Well, yes and no. I'm not certain but if (and I'm not sure they did) they ripped off Ubuntu or used it then they would be bound by the license (http://www.ubuntu.com/project/open-source) which it's clear MS doesn't do.

RefinersFire
June 6th, 2011, 08:20 PM
Its free and open source. They can do anything they want.


Perhaps it's time to change that. Canonical should protect the intellectual work of the many hard working engineers and programmers by copyrighting everything to do with Ubuntu. Then sue any heartless corporation that steals the work for royalties.

KiwiNZ
June 6th, 2011, 08:28 PM
90% does not need to copy 1%.;)

d3fau1t
June 7th, 2011, 02:16 AM
You're wrong, naysayers. Using the same font for "Start", stylizing their logo on the bag in the exact same way that Ubuntu did when they switched to purple from brown, using aubergine instead of blue... not a coincidence.

There are thousands of fonts, why imitate the Ubuntu look? Same with the logo styling - why do it EXACTLY like Ubuntu?

I hate to break this to you all, but a lot of people at Microsoft actually use Windows and Linux. When you work in operating systems, it's good to be knowledgeable about them, and to use the best. And Microsoft has admitted that Linux may be their biggest threat.

drawkcab
June 7th, 2011, 05:49 AM
http://s1.static.gotsmile.net/images/thumbs/2010/10/07/care_o_meter.jpg_1286415978.jpg

cracker89
June 7th, 2011, 09:07 AM
They'll have to give attribution, in the least. But who's gonna fight that legal battle.. :D

cracker89
June 7th, 2011, 09:12 AM
And boy does tht look gated :D I dont see scope to create a new 'folder' even..

Spice Weasel
June 7th, 2011, 09:17 AM
Perhaps it's time to change that. Canonical should protect the intellectual work of the many hard working engineers and programmers by copyrighting everything to do with Ubuntu. Then sue any heartless corporation that steals the work for royalties.

I agree. Canonical should copyright the colour Purple to stop the evil Micro$oft from stealing their hard work.

cracker89
June 7th, 2011, 11:42 AM
I highly doubt that:

1. albeit Copyrighting "purple" would be possible,is it really feasible in the spirit of FOSS
2. Anyone should care about it.

It looks like a dumbed down OS. Most of it looks like "the morning news." People who need linux or more freedom than windows can warrant will get it anyhow. Let them make it purple, green or use a font called "****-our-pants", personally i feel all that doesnt matter really.

Paqman
June 7th, 2011, 12:03 PM
I look at it and I see Win Phone 7, not Ubuntu.

Spice Weasel
June 7th, 2011, 12:13 PM
1. albeit Copyrighting "purple" would be possible,is it really feasible in the spirit of FOSS


Is it really that hard to tell that I was being sarcastic?

cracker89
June 7th, 2011, 12:35 PM
Is it really that hard to tell that I was being sarcastic?

Well, u did kind of sound it. Although that doesnt stop anyone from pursuing a nice subject u touched upon :P

No offence/reference to u.

robsoles
June 7th, 2011, 12:52 PM
It wouldn't matter if they all looked roughly within 6 degrees of each other - although 'die-hards' from both camps would battle to make someone differentiate. The goals of the people in each camp differ enough to make plenty different about what is under the hood.

For people enamoured ('in love') with any particular OS (or maker 'releaser' thereof) to the point of shunning other operating systems are likely to attribute anything they observe about somebody else's OS to the 'clever clever' people making the one they believe in. Those with historical knowledge of each OS may have any reaction from rolling their eyes to fetching their axes!

I use Ubuntu because it is FOSS, I have at least enough understanding that Microsoft's EULA (for their operating systems, at the very least) makes everything far from FOSS, I understand what Free Open Source Software is and I very much appreciate everyone's efforts in bringing it to me; From those who cooked it through the testers and on to the maintainers, my grateful thanks.

Merk42
June 7th, 2011, 01:52 PM
You're wrong, naysayers. Using the same font for "Start", stylizing their logo on the bag in the exact same way that Ubuntu did when they switched to purple from brown, using aubergine instead of blue... not a coincidence.So either you're a troll or just not listening, I specifically mentioned how Segoe (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Segoe) isn't the same as Ubuntu (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ubuntu_font), and Segoe came first
No one is allowed to use the same color? Who are you T-Mobile circa 2008 (http://www.engadget.com/2008/05/28/t-mobile-loses-magenta-suit-against-telia-we-try-not-to-laugh/)?

cyberhood
June 7th, 2011, 04:42 PM
This isn't the first time they've copied Ubuntu! You need a keyboard and mouse to operate windows. Same thing with Ubuntu! Canonical should sue!
Actually Microsoft® stole the mouse from Apple®, who stole it from Xerox® who stole it from Telefunken® who stole it from Stanford who stole it from the Canadian Royal Navy... according to Wikipedia (https://secure.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/wiki/Mouse_%28computing%29). LOL

This is just further proof that big lethargic monopolies are literally incapable of originality. They get so big that all they're capable of doing is buying out smaller companies, ripping off others and/or embracing, extending and extinguishing (https://secure.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/wiki/Criticisms_of_microsoft).

These FOSS community's weapon is not the legal field, nor should it be. We must fight back with our originality by creating something newer and better and clearly explaining to others why ours is preferable.

koenn
June 7th, 2011, 09:41 PM
No one is allowed to use the same color? Who are you T-Mobile circa 2008 (http://www.engadget.com/2008/05/28/t-mobile-loses-magenta-suit-against-telia-we-try-not-to-laugh/)?

Apperently you can trademark a colour ....
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Colour_trademark
so, by definition, if one company in a given trade has registered a colour as its trademark, other businesses in the same trade would be prohibited from using it as a "mark".

cracker89
June 7th, 2011, 09:48 PM
I use Ubuntu because it is FOSS, I have at least enough understanding that Microsoft's EULA (for their operating systems, at the very least) makes everything far from FOSS, I understand what Free Open Source Software is and I very much appreciate everyone's efforts in bringing it to me; From those who cooked it through the testers and on to the maintainers, my grateful thanks.

Long live brother.

+1
+1
+1
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And so on so forth.:guitar::guitar::guitar:


*snip*

Dustin2128
June 7th, 2011, 10:03 PM
90% does not need to copy 1%.;)
What? Good ideas can come from anywhere, and much more frequently come from start ups and FOSS communities than large organizations like microsoft.

cracker89
June 7th, 2011, 10:20 PM
What? Good ideas can come from anywhere, and much more frequently come from start ups and FOSS communities than large organizations like microsoft.

I think thats sarcasm too :P

RiceMonster
June 7th, 2011, 10:30 PM
I think thats sarcasm too :P

Nope, don't think it was.

cracker89
June 7th, 2011, 10:44 PM
Nope, don't think it was.

Originally Posted by KiwiNZ
90% does not need to copy 1%.

I meant that. Again, no offence/reference to you. :)

Superkoop
June 7th, 2011, 11:54 PM
So for most of the thread I thought it was all a joke that it looked like ubuntu and I was laughing... then I realized some were serious. I started laughing harder.
If MS is copying anyone, it's the current web art style in general.

cracker89
June 8th, 2011, 12:08 AM
So for most of the thread I thought it was all a joke that it looked like ubuntu and I was laughing... then I realized some were serious. I started laughing harder.
If MS is copying anyone, it's the current web art style in general.

ur know it all goggs say it all. ofcourse, they are the end all and be all of all authority making u capable of testifying such...

Copper Bezel
June 8th, 2011, 12:38 AM
I get the vague sense that I would find that comment irritating if it were legible.

el_koraco
June 8th, 2011, 12:40 AM
I get the vague sense that I would find that comment irritating if it were legible.

You'd have to decypher the meaning. I think I get like 40 percent of it.

cracker89
June 8th, 2011, 12:44 AM
i have a vague feeling it'd be legible if i werent this sleepy and/or over burdened with work. altho, no, it wasnt meant to be irritating. definitely not irritating.

albeit, adding something to the discussion:

http://www.newsbyme.info/tag/little-inspiration/

its the phone thang

p.s.: http://msftkitchen.com/2010/06/windows-8-plans-leaked-numerous-details-revealed.html

phrostbyte
June 8th, 2011, 12:59 AM
Microsoft, start your copiers! :P

ctrlmd
June 8th, 2011, 02:55 AM
wonders who has the copyright of yellow

cracker89
June 8th, 2011, 03:05 AM
http://forums.funny-games.biz/picture.php?albumid=297&pictureid=1450
Anyone interested in making a Simpsons OS?

murderslastcrow
June 8th, 2011, 10:05 AM
Somehow that was totally related. And murdered the thread in front of my poor, innocent eyes.

I like that Microsoft's developers are playing with extremes and seeing how far a concept can go, rather than sticking to what people know all the time. It's just not healthy, especially in a market where things are still evolving pretty rapidly. I see this whole computer (tablets,smartphones,laptops) thing getting a bit hard to improve in the next five years. The big changes will most likely be interface design oriented, rather than centered around actual technical features. Then again, I could be DREADFULLY WRONG.

But I think it's closer to the mark, seeing where things are going.