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Lloydb39
June 1st, 2011, 11:36 PM
Well, this is dandy. I've been fooling around for weeks trying to get some version of Ubuntu to run on my Dell Inspiron 1150. Finally got version 10.10 to boot up and install, but then the installation failed -- something about "grub pc" -- and now I have a computer that won't boot up to Windows XP or to Xubuntu, even from the CD. In other words, a totally useless computer. My conclusion is that Linux is not faster, easier or more reliable than either Windows or Mac, despite the hype. It is an operating system for geeks who want to spend ALL their time trying to make their operating system run, NOT to actually use the computer for surfing the net, e mail, documents, or games. I don't think Microsoft or Apple have anything to worry about. Open source sounds good in concept, but in actual practice it means people can fool around with the software until it is unusable.:(

tgm4883
June 1st, 2011, 11:39 PM
Well, this is dandy. I've been fooling around for weeks trying to get some version of Ubuntu to run on my Dell Inspiron 1150. Finally got version 10.10 to boot up and install, but then the installation failed -- something about "grub pc" -- and now I have a computer that won't boot up to Windows XP or to Xubuntu, even from the CD. In other words, a totally useless computer. My conclusion is that Linux is not faster, easier or more reliable than either Windows or Mac, despite the hype. It is an operating system for geeks who want to spend ALL their time trying to make their operating system run, NOT to actually use the computer for surfing the net, e mail, documents, or games. I don't think Microsoft or Apple have anything to worry about. Open source sounds good in concept, but in actual practice it means people can fool around with the software until it is unusable.:(

Thank you for your opinion.


--Sent from my Ubuntu PC :)

Daniel5
June 1st, 2011, 11:40 PM
/ragequit

garvinrick4
June 1st, 2011, 11:43 PM
Well, this is dandy. I've been fooling around for weeks trying to get some version of Ubuntu to run on my Dell Inspiron 1150. Finally got version 10.10 to boot up and install, but then the installation failed -- something about "grub pc" -- and now I have a computer that won't boot up to Windows XP or to Xubuntu, even from the CD. In other words, a totally useless computer. My conclusion is that Linux is not faster, easier or more reliable than either Windows or Mac, despite the hype. It is an operating system for geeks who want to spend ALL their time trying to make their operating system run, NOT to actually use the computer for surfing the net, e mail, documents, or games. I don't think Microsoft or Apple have anything to worry about. Open source sounds good in concept, but in actual practice it means people can fool around with the software until it is unusable.:(
I usually do not get involved with these threads at all but this one should maybe have been
"Lloydb39 is not ready for prime time" A personal opinion we all seem to have one do we not.

P.S. Lloydb39 if you want to get your Machine back in shape just ask users here will have you straightened up in a jiffy.
And boot problems are relatively simple items. You must be young and run a bit on the hot side we do not care that much
the reason for these Forums is to teach and learn, lets get you up and running.
Put in Live CD (install Cd using Try Ubuntu and when boots get intertnet running in upper right applet.
Go to this site and DOWNLOAD this script to your DESKTOP and then open a terminal ctrl/alt/t and copy and
paste the line of code given to you here. Will give you a RESULTS file on Desktop copy and paste here. Should
take less than 1 minute:
SourceForge.net: Boot Info Script - Project Web Hosting - Open Source Software (http://bootinfoscript.sourceforge.net/)

sudo bash ~/Desktop/boot_info_script.sh

DinoT1985
June 1st, 2011, 11:44 PM
Well, this is dandy. I've been fooling around for weeks trying to get some version of Ubuntu to run on my Dell Inspiron 1150. Finally got version 10.10 to boot up and install, but then the installation failed -- something about "grub pc" -- and now I have a computer that won't boot up to Windows XP or to Xubuntu, even from the CD. In other words, a totally useless computer. My conclusion is that Linux is not faster, easier or more reliable than either Windows or Mac, despite the hype. It is an operating system for geeks who want to spend ALL their time trying to make their operating system run, NOT to actually use the computer for surfing the net, e mail, documents, or games. I don't think Microsoft or Apple have anything to worry about. Open source sounds good in concept, but in actual practice it means people can fool around with the software until it is unusable.:(

posting this from an ubuntu pc. now try and install Mac OS X on a ready made pc. good luck getting that working.

pqwoerituytrueiwoq
June 1st, 2011, 11:44 PM
try installing grub from a live cd
https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2#METHOD%203%20-%20CHROOT
if that does not work install legacy grub

NadirPoint
June 1st, 2011, 11:45 PM
There's no denying getting GRUB to install reliably on the endless variety of hardware out there is an issue.

iclestu
June 1st, 2011, 11:45 PM
Well, this is dandy. I've been fooling around for weeks trying to get some version of Ubuntu to run on my Dell Inspiron 1150. Finally got version 10.10 to boot up and install, but then the installation failed -- something about "grub pc" -- and now I have a computer that won't boot up to Windows XP or to Xubuntu, even from the CD. In other words, a totally useless computer. My conclusion is that Linux is not faster, easier or more reliable than either Windows or Mac, despite the hype. It is an operating system for geeks who want to spend ALL their time trying to make their operating system run, NOT to actually use the computer for surfing the net, e mail, documents, or games. I don't think Microsoft or Apple have anything to worry about. Open source sounds good in concept, but in actual practice it means people can fool around with the software until it is unusable.:(

That you are having a frustrating time does not imply that everyone else is. I had to boot into my windows partition today for the first time in months (i hasten to add that the REASON i booted into windows was to fix an error in the windows partition caused by windows). It just reminded me how messy slow, slow to boot and bity the whole thing was. in contrast my linux setup is clean fresh and lightening quick both at boot and to run apps. i am no developer, sysadmin or geek or whatever.

You are entitled to your opinion (as am I) but you make a big assertion that I, for one, disagree with wholeheartedly

4Orbs
June 1st, 2011, 11:46 PM
Probably easy to fix. Can't say for sure. Could be something's wrong with it.

flipper T
June 1st, 2011, 11:50 PM
re your first post on this forum :


I have an old Dell laptop with a half-meg of memory


ubuntu 10.10 is a modern os that while comparably portable, wont run on everything

i also had problems installing it on my texas instruments calculator

persistence is a virtue, not the vice you seem to think

lisati
June 1st, 2011, 11:52 PM
Thread moved to Recurring Discussions.

Thewhistlingwind
June 1st, 2011, 11:59 PM
I know that these words have inspired more ragequits and monitor punchouts then most any other in the history of the internet, but they had to be said:


"Works on my system.":popcorn:

Seriously though, the closest I got to that bad was trying to compile NDISwrapper first day in to use a device that even NDISwrapper didn't support. (One of the only eight left I think.)

KutWrite
June 2nd, 2011, 12:13 AM
I feel his pain!

I really like so much about Ubuntu/Linux. I've had a few problems, though, which are real work-stoppers. Thing is, I'm confident there's a relatively easy fix - I just have to find it, or wait for my post here to be answered. (ahem!)

The alternatives, though, are worse: clunky, expensive Windows with all its bugs and bloat, expensive apps with different commands, etc. etc. Or, expensive, though pretty, Apple hardware & apps.

Me? I'll grit my teeth and wrestle a bit. The ends justify the means!

I hope!

SteveHillier
June 2nd, 2011, 12:40 AM
IMO the one thing worse than a computer running Windows is a Dell computer running Windows!
Having said that I recently sold a Dell computer - I was doing a service because I had supplied a client with a proper machine and took away the old Dell machine. I suppose I should have junked it!
I digress, the first Ubuntu Distro I used was Dapper (although I subsequently did install a Breezy version) and I have been impressed with it. I would use it all day long but my clients insist on running Windows systems.
I therefore dispute the initial premise. I think Linux is now ready for the prime time. Where it probably misses out is the availability of specialist business software because very few of the publishers consider it is worth their time. The new world of web based applications will soon make this difference a thing of the past.
We have now launched a new arm to our business which is set up specifically to sell Linux (Ubuntu) based systems with ready bundled business software to small business, particularly start up businesses.
Any body interested can visit http://www.linuxcomputinguk.co.uk and have a look.
Getting into something new is sometimes a bumpy ride. What you have to do is ride the bumps and when you are stuck use this forum to try and level out the bumps your mind cannot get round on it's own.

colin.p
June 2nd, 2011, 01:13 AM
I have heard that MS will pay trolls to frequent and disrupt other forums that might not be MS friendly. Of course, that can't possibly be what is happening here.:o

BTW, have lucid running perfectly on a 1545 and a 1012, so linux and Dells must be junk.;)

tillerdemon
June 2nd, 2011, 01:32 AM
Posting right now on Dell D610 laptop running 10.04, the install was painless, wireless worked out of the box. I don't care if your loading MS 7, XP or any other operating system on any type of computer it seems you will always have to search out some type of driver to have it running smoothly. To say linux isn't ready for the prime time is a very shallow statement, as far as speed, I can't imagine that your system is slower than MS. I have MS 7, XP and even a vista PC I use, 10.04 is faster than any of the others. It's been so long since I've re-booted 10.04 I can't remember the last time. I hope you give it a shot and find happiness in using it, if not than by all means continue with your MS systems as they really are a pretty stable OS if you don't surf the net on risky sites.

kaldor
June 2nd, 2011, 01:34 AM
That's funny, I don't spend "ALL" day trying to get my PC running. I don't think all the Android users and Web Server admins do either. Oh well, I must be dreaming.

Edit: Regarding "MS and Apple have nothing to worry about" statement. Microsoft is losing heavily to Linux on the mobile phone market, where Android is a dominant player with Apple and Blackberry. I believe Microsoft is also in the minority in the web server market too.

sbraz
June 2nd, 2011, 01:53 AM
Linux is not faster, easier or more reliable than either Windows or Mac, despite the hype.

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desnaike
June 2nd, 2011, 02:38 AM
Well, this is dandy. I've been fooling around for weeks trying to get some version of Ubuntu to run on my Dell Inspiron 1150. Finally got version 10.10 to boot up and install, but then the installation failed -- something about "grub pc" -- and now I have a computer that won't boot up to Windows XP or to Xubuntu, even from the CD. In other words, a totally useless computer. My conclusion is that Linux is not faster, easier or more reliable than either Windows or Mac, despite the hype. It is an operating system for geeks who want to spend ALL their time trying to make their operating system run, NOT to actually use the computer for surfing the net, e mail, documents, or games. I don't think Microsoft or Apple have anything to worry about. Open source sounds good in concept, but in actual practice it means people can fool around with the software until it is unusable.:(


This link from 2008 might help.

http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=705069

TBABill
June 2nd, 2011, 02:43 AM
My Inspiron 1564 runs anything I throw at it....but, then again, I know how to download, burn, install, tweak, update and operate the system. Perhaps a good read of the forums, online Google search results, the plethora of Ubuntu help sites and help forums, some time spent asking questions when you get stuck...sounds like learning to me?

One day I'd love to have someone like the OP find someone who has never seen or used Windows actually install it and get it running without problems or needing help.

Habitual
June 2nd, 2011, 03:13 AM
http://support.dell.com/

'nuff said.

donato roque
June 2nd, 2011, 06:30 AM
The quality of trols has really gone down.

Where are the real trols?

arvevans
June 2nd, 2011, 06:39 AM
It's probably a troll posting. The OP didn't ever come back to even try defending his post.

wolfen69
June 3rd, 2011, 03:49 AM
One day I'd love to have someone like the OP find someone who has never seen or used Windows actually install it and get it running without problems or needing help.

I love it!

Lloydb39
June 3rd, 2011, 04:12 PM
Gee, didn't mean to upset anyone. :) I was a bit premature, however. I worked on it all day, finally got Puppy to run, which allowed me to reformat and repartition my drive. After that, Xubuntu 10.10 installed without a hitch. Almost. Still had a networking issue, but figured that out, too. So now I have a Linux OS on my old laptop, with wi-fi and I'm a happy camper.
Have to say I got some good responses, including a couple that were pretty funny. And I'm not a "troll" although that was pretty funny too. Thanks to those who tried to help.

rg4w
June 3rd, 2011, 05:42 PM
Under the circumstances it seems reasonable that people drew the conclusions they did about your intentions.

Respectfully, if you had a technical question you could have simply titled your thread as such.

But if you enter someone's home and and complain to the hostess that you don't like her food, don't be surprised if you're not initially her favorite guest.

Ghost|BTFH
June 3rd, 2011, 07:22 PM
Well, this is dandy. I've been fooling around for weeks trying to get some version of Windows to run on my custom computer. Finally got Windows 7 to boot up and install, but then the installation failed -- something about "drivers" -- and now I have a computer that won't boot up to Ubuntu or to Xubuntu, even from the CD. In other words, a totally useless computer. My conclusion is that Windows is not faster, easier or more reliable than either Linux or Mac, despite the hype. It is an operating system for geeks who want to spend ALL their time trying to make their operating system run, NOT to actually use the computer for surfing the net, e mail, documents, or games. I don't think Linux or Apple have anything to worry about. Proprietary code sounds good in concept, but in actual practice it means people can't find the drivers they need to install, when they need to install them. :(

"Download drivers for my network card? How the hell am I supposed to do THAT?!?!?!?"

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