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ubuntu_demon
May 8th, 2006, 09:02 PM
Hi,

My question to you : what is your favorite multiplayer open source rts game ?

Last year I played gate88 a bit. http://www.queasygames.com/gate88/ It's fun for a while. It hasn't been updated for a long time (19 mar 05) and it isn't available through apt-get.

I like starcraft but it's not native and not open source. Isn't there anything available like starcraft ?

stratagus with the game bos has a lot of potential. At the moment it isn't finished at all. There are too litlle different kinds of units available to make it interesting.

globulation 2 can also become a cool game.

I appreciate the efforts of the volunteering developers of all these games ofcourse.

RavenOfOdin
May 8th, 2006, 09:09 PM
Homeworld 2 (not open source, either, but I wish they'd make a port for Linux) was pretty good.

I think you might want to check out Boson. (link on kde.org)
That should be something along the lines of RTS.

GaFFy
May 8th, 2006, 09:11 PM
I havent liked any open source rts that I have tried. :-k
I too would be open for suggestions.

ubuntu_demon
May 8th, 2006, 09:16 PM
Homeworld 2 (not open source, either, but I wish they'd make a port for Linux) was pretty good.


I've never played that game.



I think you might want to check out Boson. (link on kde.org)
That should be something along the lines of RTS.

boson is currently not installable in Dapper :



The following packages have unmet dependencies.
boson-base: Depends: libopenal0 but it is not going to be installed
E: Broken packages


breezy contains an older version. So I'll wait for it to become installable in Dapper to try it.

-Rick-
May 8th, 2006, 09:30 PM
warzone 2100 (http://warzone2100.sourceforge.net/) is my favorite. It's open sourced and all the media is now free.

ubuntu_demon
May 8th, 2006, 09:51 PM
warzone 2100 (http://warzone2100.sourceforge.net/) is my favorite. It's open sourced and all the media is now free.
thnx for the suggestion. I can't extract the package though :(

see : http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=995945

charlieg
May 9th, 2006, 02:55 PM
Try Dark Oberon and Globulation, both quite fun and fairly complete RTS games.

http://dark-oberon.sourceforge.net/

http://globulation2.org/wiki/Main_Page

Your Name Is
May 9th, 2006, 03:17 PM
I like Warzone- Boson won't install in Kubuntu Brezzy Badger

crypto178
May 9th, 2006, 03:22 PM
I see that Homeworld 2 has already been mentionned in this thread, ubuntists are people with taste :)
But yep, Homeworld (as well as HW: Cataclysm, and HW 2) is my favorite strategy game, by far. The music, the ship design, and the background space graphics are all awesome, the strategy elements revolutionnary, and the whole concept of 3 dimensionnal battles unique. Most space-based RTS actually take place on a kind of 2D plane, but not Homeworld.
Homeworld 1 has been open-sourced two years ago or so, I don't think it's free though, you still need to have the original CD, but don't quote me on that.
Warzone 2100 is a great game too. Quite an underdog, I don't think its sales were very good. It isn't certainly as jaw-dropping as Homeworld in the art department, but it is one of the greatest strategy game ever made as well.

Now, there may be newer, better games that I don't know about. I'll keep an eye on this subject :)

Bekker
May 9th, 2006, 04:37 PM
I've played Homeworld some time ago and really liked it! So hearing all this I'm considering to buy Homeworld 2, it works good with wine I suppose?
Boson is pretty neat too, and I haven't even tried the latest version yet :D
glest (http://www.glest.org) looks good also, but it isn't really extended.

Cirrocco
May 9th, 2006, 05:34 PM
if they got Warhammer 40000: Dawn of War: Winter Assault to work on linux, I wouldn't need XP for anything.

Bokonon
May 10th, 2006, 10:09 AM
Warcraft the original for multiplayer. That was a blast and everything was new at that point. Sure there have been others that have been revolutionary, but nothing comes close to the original Warcraft in my book. That game gave me the most 'funtime'. :cool:

It was a blast lugging my computer over to a buddies house and going at it. His wife thought we were crazy and would just laugh at us as we played.

For single player, I would probably go with Homeworld. That is the only one that I really got into the story on. Maybe WC3 would come next.

RavenOfOdin
May 10th, 2006, 05:13 PM
For single player, I would probably go with Homeworld. That is the only one that I really got into the story on.

Couldn't believe they got permission to put the string piece from "Platoon" into that thing. :eek:

bored2k
May 10th, 2006, 05:17 PM
I seriously don't think I have ever liked an open-source video game ever.

Wallakoala
May 10th, 2006, 11:12 PM
I seriously don't think I have ever liked an open-source video game ever.

Same...it just seems that open source + games doesn't really work that well. Most open-source games are lagging behind closed-source in terms of gameplay/graphics/technology in general.

But as far as rts games go in general, I really like Warcraft III. I am glad I got it to work in wine...

Breepee
May 11th, 2006, 08:22 AM
That would be Empires: Dawn of the Modern World and Rise of Nations, with it's Thrones and Patriots expansion pack. If they'd just work on Ubuntu, bye bye Windows....

Warhammer 40000: Dawn of War: Winter Assault is cool too. I read somewhere about a guy that had gotten Warhammer 40000: Dawn of War (w/o Winter Assault) to work flawlessly in Linux, with WINE.

handy
May 11th, 2006, 05:18 PM
I just love Guild Wars, I don't know if it strictly fits into the RTS category?

Though you do need strategy in real time!

I have been building up my second character, which is an elementalist / monk. This changes the gameplay so much from my first character build which was a warrior / monk, that it is like a whole new game!!

Great value, I'll get years out of this game, & it's expansions! :KS

mauser
May 14th, 2006, 03:18 PM
Operation Flashpoint Resistance: Capture This Island.
It came out about the same time as Ghost Recon did for PC (US Release).
It's the only reason I have a use for WinChokes.

ELD
May 14th, 2006, 05:18 PM
TA Spring, the only open source one i like!

They are also porting it to linux, it's going slow but e-builds have been made (use them on gentoo, no idea how to use on ubuntu).

charlieg
May 14th, 2006, 07:28 PM
Can't believe Glest (http://www.glest.org) isn't mentioned more in this thread.

With Glest, TA Spring, and Boson (not to mention Stratagus developments) the open source RTS scene is pretty exciting.

benplaut
May 16th, 2006, 09:00 AM
I seriously don't think I have ever liked an open-source video game ever.

nexuiz? warsow? enemy territory? TC:E?

ELD
May 16th, 2006, 09:16 AM
Keep it on the discussion of RTS games please guys!

drfalkor
May 16th, 2006, 10:17 AM
I find the open source community very posetive,.. like "WOW, NEVERBALL ITS SO AWESOME, NOW I AM A HARDCORE GAMER!!!!! MONKEY *** TO IS A GREAT GAME TO!!!!"
C'mon people,.. is it just me, or ?
(sorry for flaming, but I had the urge to do so)

charlieg
May 16th, 2006, 11:12 PM
How about this...

Open source, 3d, complete single player game, professional graphics and sounds, multiplayer support, and being actively developed.

Warzone 2100 is alive:
http://www.coppercore.net/~wztoys/modules/news/article.php?storyid=38

handy
May 24th, 2006, 01:25 PM
How about this...

Open source, 3d, complete single player game, professional graphics and sounds, multiplayer support, and being actively developed.

Warzone 2100 is alive:
http://www.coppercore.net/~wztoys/modules/news/article.php?storyid=38

So, Warzone 2100 is ALL of those things?

Is it ready yet?? (or is it still being actively developed?)

If ready, then we need to look at it!! :KS

If not ready, then we need to keep our eye on it, because it sounds great!! :KS

Thanks for telling us about it!

ELD
May 24th, 2006, 01:43 PM
So, Warzone 2100 is ALL of those things?

Is it ready yet?? (or is it still being actively developed?)

If ready, then we need to look at it!! :KS

If not ready, then we need to keep our eye on it, because it sounds great!! :KS

Thanks for telling us about it!

Warzone 2100 was available a long time ago as a commercial game, it is a complete game which can be played. Although i think they are fixing things and all that jazz.

Clay85
May 24th, 2006, 04:47 PM
I just love Guild Wars, I don't know if it strictly fits into the RTS category?

Though you do need strategy in real time!

I have been building up my second character, which is an elementalist / monk. This changes the gameplay so much from my first character build which was a warrior / monk, that it is like a whole new game!!

Great value, I'll get years out of this game, & it's expansions! :KS


Guild wars does have a lot of strategy. More than probably any game I've ever played. You've really got to know your class combo to stay alive (especially in PvP). It's a really intense game, but coming from EQ2 I felt like I was in Super Mario World. I couldn't take the horrible graphics (comparatively speaking). It cracks me up when people say they play GW for the "awesome graphics"[sic]. Have you heard of EQ2? So realistic! I go for realism in a game (especially muds).

So, I had to quit. I just can't play a game where the dye system is, "Silver + Silver + Silver + Yellow = White". Don't they give game designers a 'basic life' class? Everyone knows you can't make white dye! Right? The entire dye system is anti-logic-based like this. Among many other systems that are anti-logical. That was just one example. I can't play an anti-logic-based game, it messes up my logic for real life.

Edit: Maybe I should say dis-logical. Does that make more sense? o.O

Monster_user
May 24th, 2006, 07:03 PM
Personally, I am a fan of the Starcraft games, the Age of Empires series, and Star Trek: Armada. I'm not sure if the Starfleet Command series qualifies as an RTS.

One of my favorites is Battlezone II. Real-time strategy from the perspective of one of the units. Savage: Battle for Newerth looked cool to. Unfortunately, since I mostly play games offline, Savage was not for me (the demo's AI was all but completely useless).

handy
May 24th, 2006, 09:03 PM
Guild wars does have a lot of strategy. More than probably any game I've ever played. You've really got to know your class combo to stay alive (especially in PvP). It's a really intense game, but coming from EQ2 I felt like I was in Super Mario World. I couldn't take the horrible graphics (comparatively speaking). It cracks me up when people say they play GW for the "awesome graphics"[sic]. Have you heard of EQ2? So realistic! I go for realism in a game (especially muds).

So, I had to quit. I just can't play a game where the dye system is, "Silver + Silver + Silver + Yellow = White". Don't they give game designers a 'basic life' class? Everyone knows you can't make white dye! Right? The entire dye system is anti-logic-based like this. Among many other systems that are anti-logical. That was just one example. I can't play an anti-logic-based game, it messes up my logic for real life.

Edit: Maybe I should say dis-logical. Does that make more sense? o.O

For me, the graphics in GW are fantastic! Yes, they can allways be better = real life type graphics. But that is only a matter of time, or should I say a time of matter!?

Most GW players are not addicted to the graphics, they are addicted to the game!!

If you are put off buy the graphics in GW, you obviously didn't like the game enough to suffer from the emersion & blind love that most GW players are afflicted with!!

As far as the dyes go, that's your problem :) It's not ours :-)

charlieg
May 25th, 2006, 12:30 AM
So, Warzone 2100 is ALL of those things?

Is it ready yet?? (or is it still being actively developed?)

It is all of those things; it is ready; it is actively developed. Do check it out.

ELD
May 25th, 2006, 09:39 AM
It is all of those things; it is ready; it is actively developed. Do check it out.

He is correct, a game well worth playing, when i had it for playstation before it was open sourced i spent A LONG TIME playing it...probably too long!!

handy
May 25th, 2006, 01:16 PM
I have been looking at the Warzone2100 website (http://www.coppercore.net/~wztoys/modules/news/).

Very impressive!

I have just downloaded the game, I'm yet to install & check it out.

Thanks for the heads up CharlieG & ELD... :KS

ELD
May 25th, 2006, 01:33 PM
Glad i was of any help :)

It is well worth a check, i spent countless hours on it, very interesting game :)

Artificial Intelligence
May 25th, 2006, 01:57 PM
You might also try Magnant - Insect wars: http://doc.gwos.org/index.php/Magnant
It's RTS and it's actually WC2 just with ant and insects.

handy
May 26th, 2006, 05:51 AM
Hmmm... The .deb file for Warzone 2100, won't do the right thing for me!

It may be a bad file, someone else has had the same problem earlier in this thread.

I will eventually give feedback to the Warzone site.

handy
May 26th, 2006, 05:52 AM
You might also try Magnant - Insect wars: http://doc.gwos.org/index.php/Magnant
It's RTS and it's actually WC2 just with ant and insects.

Thanks AI, I'll check it out in the near future! :KS

Breepee
May 27th, 2006, 02:27 PM
A _very_ promising free (as in beer) RTS:

http://wildfiregames.com/0ad/

charlieg
June 8th, 2006, 02:54 PM
A _very_ promising free (as in beer) RTS:

http://wildfiregames.com/0ad/
Yeah, if only you could download a demo or something. Don't expect anything before 2007.

ubuntu_demon
June 30th, 2006, 02:25 PM
Thanks for all suggestions guys!

Currently I'm searching for a LAN game to play with a friend on intel imac :
http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=206552

louman
September 19th, 2006, 07:00 AM
TA Spring (http://taspring.clan-sy.com/) was mentioned earlier in this thread, but no one else here knows of it?!

it's based off the commercial game (TAspring is open source and beer-free) "Total Annihilation" which was a sleeper hit thanks to Starcraft coming out a month or so after it was released.
Spring is a fully-3d engine for TA that features real-3d dogfights, terrain manipulation, tons of (good) mods, and the most impressive part (IMO) is the ability to chain any number of commands on virtually any unit type.. it really makes management interesting. Did i mention uber-massive scale warfare?

the game has a rather non-intuitive interface, but once you get used to it you'll realize how awesome the game is! (PS: there are lots of people who play too, so you dont need to force your friends to get it to learn to play)



the linux port is incomplete (particularly there's no finished client for connecting to the game lobby nor can linux people play against windows machines..) but there was recently a project called "debspring" designed for ubuntu/debian. However, multiplayer is currently impossible, so i suggest getting the latest version of wine and installing the regular win32 version of TAspring with it, if you want to see some action.


Perhaps if some of you fellow Ubuntu users visit their forums (http://taspring.clan-sy.com/phpbb/viewforum.php?f=20)
and do a little testing of the debspring and spring-gui projects they'd become more active and soon we'll have a native linux port running!

-Louman

po0f
September 19th, 2006, 09:17 AM
I am very interested in TA:Spring, but haven't tried it yet as I am under the impression that you need the original game files to install it. Is this true?

louman
September 19th, 2006, 01:08 PM
I am very interested in TA:Spring, but haven't tried it yet as I am under the impression that you need the original game files to install it. Is this true?

the .deb package for TAspring downloads the XTA mod, which comes with it's own content. You can also download AA (absolute annihilation) which is the mod of choice for most TASpring players, which also comes with all it's own content.

In terms of copyright law I'm not sure how much of the content in either of the mods (XTA or AA) are actually completely original, but Cavedog nor Atari (new owner of the "TA" name) kicked up any fuss to the release of TASpring, mostly since it's truely much much more than a rip off of TA. If you're very serious about copyright's you might want to pick up TA for 10 bucks somewhere, it's well worth it to be honest. (PS: there are many that TAspring supports along with Original TA...)

If I were you I'd get the linux .deb as soon as possible just to try it out, or use Wine to install the win32 version of TASpring.

Feel free to ask me for any help, as I've a little experience using TASpring in both Windows or linux (Wine or "DebSpring") and I really want more Linux users interested in the game (so i have some opponents until the windows version is compatible with 'nix ;) )

jdunn
September 19th, 2006, 01:57 PM
I checked out Wesnoth and FreeCiv. They are great strategy games, albeit they are turn based. The graphics for both need alot of improvement...maybe add opengl support.

The only game that may qualify as an RTS that I play on Linux is Savage...but its not open source.

RTS games I enjoy on Windows (non free): Rome Total War, Thrones and Patriots, games from the Age of Empires and Empire Earth series.

donkyhotay
December 7th, 2006, 01:59 AM
It was mentioned before but I think it should be mentioned again that globulation2 is a very good RTS that focuses on eliminating micromanagement. It can be downloaded/installed via synaptic on ubuntu however for online play I would recommend getting the latest version by compiling the source since there have been enhancements/bugfixes since the latest ubuntu release. Check it out at
www.globulation2.org

Orval
December 15th, 2006, 11:43 AM
I am a big fan of the Age of Empires series and Rise of Nations (and the Thrones and Patriots expension). Unfortunately I haven't found an open source game that even comes close.

0AD (http://wildfiregames.com/0ad/) looks very promising!

javierfh
December 15th, 2006, 12:52 PM
I am a big fan of the Age of Empires series and Rise of Nations (and the Thrones and Patriots expension). Unfortunately I haven't found an open source game that even comes close.

0AD (http://wildfiregames.com/0ad/) looks very promising!

Hi,
im in the same situation, i just love Age of Empires games and as Orval said, i still havent seen an open source game that comes even closer, not even to older versions or for example the first versions of command and conquer.

I wish someday will something like that appear.

And same here, looking forward to see that 0AD ready because looks very very promissing, at least the screen shots look too good to be true :D

Javi