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Dry Lips
March 15th, 2011, 11:20 PM
How many of you choose to use OpenPGP to encrypt email,
with tools such as for instance the Enigmail extension for Thunderbird?

Useful links:
http://www.pgpi.org/doc/whypgp/en/
https://ssd.eff.org/tech/email
http://www.gnupg.org/
https://secure.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/wiki/Encrypted_email

uRock
March 15th, 2011, 11:26 PM
Can't get my non-tech friends to use it, so it does me no good. I think the only time I ever used an encryption key was to sign the Ubuntu Code of Conduct on Launchpad. Maybe I should start sending them encrypted emails until they break down and ask me for the key.

I'm not really sending extremely personal data so there is no point.This is another good reason.

LowSky
March 15th, 2011, 11:28 PM
I'm not really sending extremely personal data so there is no point.

Paqman
March 15th, 2011, 11:31 PM
Nope, don't sue it. I can see it's usefulness in a business environment, but there's no point encrypting personal email IMO.

Dry Lips
March 15th, 2011, 11:33 PM
Can't get my non-tech friends to use it, so it does me no good. I think the only time I ever used an encryption key was to sign the Ubuntu Code of Conduct on Launchpad.
I've got the same problem as you. But the sad thing is that setting
up encryption with, say, Thunderbird, is really simple. I'm not a
tech-wizard myself, and when even I managed to configure Enigmail,
most people who have a little experience using a computer will
manage this too. And it is easily accessible as well; when you install
Thunderbird in Ubuntu, the enigmail extension even comes with
Thunderbird by default!

Spice Weasel
March 15th, 2011, 11:34 PM
My only options are GMX, Hotmail and Gmail for email, and with all three of those providers privacy is nonexistent so there is no real point to encrypting anything.

Besides, what do I use email for now? Sending school work and registering on websites (in that case I only have to receive email). Not exactly extremely personal information.

Dry Lips
March 15th, 2011, 11:36 PM
My only options are GMX, Hotmail and Gmail for email, and with all three of those providers privacy is nonexistent so there is no real point to encrypting anything.

Besides, what do I use email for now? Sending school work and registering on websites (in that case I only have to receive email). Not exactly extremely personal information.
Have you thought about this: When you encrypt you email,
it becomes unreadable to Gmail, etc. It's a way of reclaiming
your privacy!

Dry Lips
March 15th, 2011, 11:40 PM
Another thing: How many of you would be comfortable
if you knew someone was wire-tapping your phone calls,
even if you weren't talking about personal issues on the phone?

Spice Weasel
March 15th, 2011, 11:45 PM
Have you thought about this: When you encrypt you email,
it becomes unreadable to Gmail, etc. It's a way of reclaiming
your privacy!

Forgive me for my ignorance of encryption. I had no idea that this was possible. :(

Paqman
March 15th, 2011, 11:50 PM
Have you thought about this: When you encrypt you email,
it becomes unreadable to Gmail, etc. It's a way of reclaiming
your privacy!

The only thing reading your Gmail is a machine. Can't say I really feel like having a machine index my email is a breach of privacy. Some people probably would though.

Jesus_Valdez
March 15th, 2011, 11:58 PM
I hardly receive any Emails or Phone calls, so I don't encrypt anything.

I can't remember the last really important email that I got.

Dry Lips
March 15th, 2011, 11:59 PM
The only thing reading your Gmail is a machine. Can't say I really feel like having a machine index my email is a breach of privacy. Some people probably would though.

From wikipedia:
https://secure.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/wiki/Gmail#Criticism

"Google automatically scans e-mails to add context-sensitive advertisements to them. Privacy advocates raised concerns that the plan involved scanning their personal, assumed private, e-mails, and that this was a security problem. Allowing e-mail content to be read, even by a computer, raises the risk that the expectation of privacy in e-mail will be reduced. Furthermore, e-mail that non-subscribers choose to send to Gmail accounts is scanned by Gmail as well, even though those senders never agreed to Gmail's terms of service or privacy policy. Google can change its privacy policy unilaterally and Google is technically able to cross-reference cookies across its information-rich product line to make dossiers on individuals. However, most e-mail systems make use of server-side content scanning in order to check for spam.
[...] Gmail accounts of human rights activists in China were hacked in a sophisticated attack in late 2009.The fact that Gmail stores, analyzes and retains user's email contents makes Gmail an attractive target for such attacks."

Paqman
March 16th, 2011, 12:05 AM
I was aware of all that, but thanks for your concern ;)

Old_Grey_Wolf
March 16th, 2011, 12:13 AM
At work, yes. It is required by the company to use encryption for any email with employee personal information or company proprietary information in it.

For personal use, minimal. It is not that I don't want to. I'm 63 years old; therefore, most of my personal contacts are 50 to 70 years old. Trying to get them to use encryption is...well...virtually impossible. I use it when I email my personal information from work to my home email account.

aG93IGRvIGkgdWJ1bnR1Pw==
March 16th, 2011, 12:17 AM
I don't read or send unencrypted email.

Dry Lips
March 16th, 2011, 12:22 AM
I was aware of all that, but thanks for your concern ;) Actually I use Gmail myself, but I must admit
I'm not a too big fan of Google... But when you encrypt
your mails, they are also stored in an encrypted form at
the mail server, and isn't decrypted before it reaches your
home computer. I think that is a win/win situation. Of course,
you have enable POP3/IMAP at Gmail, etc in order to use it with Thunderbird.

For those of you interested in using encryption,
these links might be of interest to you:

How to use Gmail with Thunderbird:
http://mail.google.com/support/bin/answer.py?hl=en&answer=180189
What is enigmail?:
http://enigmail.mozdev.org/home/index.php.html
How to set up encryption with enigmail:
http://enigmail.mozdev.org/documentation/quickstart.php.html

(Notice that when you install Thunderbird from the
Ubuntu software centre, Enigmail is installed as well,
so there is no need to install engimail separately...)
Evolution does also have OpenPGP support.

Dry Lips
March 16th, 2011, 12:24 AM
I don't read or send unencrypted email.

LOL, that explains your nickname! :D

Spice Weasel
March 16th, 2011, 12:40 AM
LOL, that explains your nickname! :D

So how do i ubuntu, anyway?