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MechaMechanism
March 4th, 2011, 05:04 AM
So I'm on Myspace. I get lots of messages from pretty girls who are only on Myspace less than a day. There spam/scam messages of course. They are generally worded such as to make you think that they think your hot or that your the one (marriage). So one day I decided to see how far down the rabbit hole went. The message asked me to contact them at their Yahoo address and so I did. I just thought you all might be curious and if not thats ok too. I quit the game after a while because I got bored and had better things to do.

P.S. Be warned this scammer likes using lots of words.

Here's the full email exchange with headers.
http://universal-mechanism.org/scam/scam.tar.gz

First message by me.

You messaged me on Myspace. I'm saying hi back. What do you want to
talk about? I'm up for chatting.


You sent the below message on Myspace.

How are you? I am new here really getting bored,...I have been hurt in
the past but cautiously trying this.... you was listed as my match and
decided to say hi..I am looking to meet someone nice and special.....I
dont come on this site much so you can get back to me at::
sweetdebbyj1@yahoo.com if you care to talk,see ya
thanks
Debby

Her, it's a her of course, response.

Hello Nathan,

How are you doing today good i guess anyway i'm doing fine here as well.You really sound cool to me and thats really makes me feel better will like to get to know you more and meet you someday And I want you to know that since I read your Mail and Profile..I can see all what i am looking for in a Man In YOU and Its seem you are the angel sent to me By God So That Make me Think Straight and I Deleted My Profile so that I can Focus my Heart to Only You cos I hate Double dating...Here are some more about me..I've accomplished everything I wanted to do as a single woman. My career has a right future and I don't anticipate no real issues in the immediate future.I am a lady that ready to meet the right man with trust,ready to care for You and also with Honest.I am ready for serious relationship but looking for a true love we could be the one of my heart after i recieve your reply...I have not been married before and I have no Kids yet but wish to have them someday....I was hurt by my past relationship that end up with broken heart,because I always catch my ex with so many Girls around which I hate and he always denied.Because I am one man who and I hate lies and cheating..I seek for a complete honest man,who will come home to me,love me,adore me,a strong man with a strong heart who will want our relationship to last forever,a comppassionate man,one with good heart and know how to handle matters,I want a lover not a fighter,lol I am committed life to living to the fullest and in growing as a person....

But Do You come from a large family?My family has always been very caring and supportive of my dreams and ambitions that I have challenged myself with..I have Granny since when I lost my parents..I am a Orphan,I was born in Ireland, My dad is from Polland and My Mum is from Nigeria, I dont konw the Relatives of my Father.I do Live with My Parent in States and My Parent Do give me the Bigest Care in The World..Not Knowing I will Lost Them,,I am The Only child of my Parent..I am 10yrs when I do lost My Parent and Its always Bring Tears Into my eyes when I do remember my Parent..Since I Lost my Parent Things have been going hard for me and i do not have nobody to take good care of me then my Granny in Nigeria now came to United State to pick me up,,since then i have been with my granny in nigeria for a Proper care..i will be coming back to the state anytime soon, just want to find someone nice before i come because im ready to sacrifice myself the right man not the wrong man and make me happy.Hope you understand my feelings about my childhood??..I just finish my studies though and i am seaching for a Job Cos..i do study an accounting in school and i do have a master Degree in it..but i want to become an accountant for Future..

I also tend to have a good heart with so much of Love to give You and take and I've been describe as the most Nicest lady You can meet by friend.But what kind of Books do You like to Read and What kind of Music do You Listen to?I like Mysteries,Thrillers and spirituality.And right now I am Listening to Enigma their first cd's but other than that I like reggae, Blues, Rock, Classical,rap and hip hop.I don't smoke also and I only Drink wine..But Tell me a little more about yourself, ( for example do you like to go camping, hiking, rock climbing, walks in the rain,cuddling by the fire, etcetera). Also what about some pics of you (so I can see who I am writing to)?I am looking for my special someone (I have not even kissed a man in a year and a half as a result). I have not been married before and I have no Kids yet but wish to have them someday.What Turns U on and Off?My turns on is Honest, Good sense of humor, Communication, Confidence,friendly,Respectful and someone who can make me Happy,While my turn off is lying, Argue, Jealous,Cheating,someone that Love talking dirty online,someone who is Just Looking for a Sex Online that was not serious. Are you living alone and what is your Hobbies??.Now I am wanting to find someone who would love to grow old with me as we share all that life has to offer (the ups and the downs, hopefully way more ups than downs).. I believe that Distance is Nothing But Love Matters Most to me....I am pretty good here in Lagos, Nigeria anyway but its a little bit sunny and I dont have Choice had to live here like that..I am picky about who I open myself up to. I have a good feeling about you!!! , upon your request and respond to you how ever often you like.Hmmmm I guess enough is being said about me.Thats all what I can say for now and I will be Looking to hear back from you

Debby

My reply. I sent her a publicly available pic of me from Flickr.

I come from large family. I too seek love. I have been lonely much of
my life and seek a woman to share it with. You sound like a nice woman.
I am sorry that you have had a tough life. I would like to make your
life better if I can. I have included a picture of me. Please send
more pictures of you as your are very beautiful. I would love to talk
to you more. Lets get to know each other.

Sincerely Nate.

Her reply again. This time she sent me a bunch of questions. I won't include them here. I'll do that in my reply below.

Hello Nathan,

I am Glad to hear back from you and I have probably rambled long enough with so much more to talk about. I have lived a great life and looking forward for my Guy!!!I must admit its been great writing to you!!!! I can't remember when I talked so much about myself and to have the chance to read it back, it might sound weird but I am proud of myself and hoping for the day I can make more and better memories to share with someone special!!! I Think i can told you more about me and i hope this leads us to a Good way...I can see that this is the better way to get to know more about each other... I will like you to tell me more about you by Answering this Questions...

INSERT Questions here.

I hope you are a spirtual Man....I mean I am not a "Bible thumper" it would be nice to go out on a Sat. night and live it up from time to time togerther and still have the chance to find myself in church on Sunday!!!!! It's important to me that he has spirtual belief and some values like that willing to grow!!!Do you have faith trust,With Trust we are going to make our Dreams come true.

Debby

My reply with the questions.

You now have my answers.

1) How Old are you?
38 years old


2)What do you seek for in Relationship?
Trust, empathy, kindness, love, support for each other.


3)What type of relationship do you seek for?
A long term love. Marriage.


4)What interest you Most?
Trust. Trust is the most important thing for me.


5)What type of Lady are you Looking for?
One who wishes to settle down with a family. One who wants kids.


6)What do you do for a Living?
I work in the mental health field. I am a counselor. I help people
with their problems to get better.


7)What do you for fun?
I hike in the mountains. I snowboard. I play board games with family
and friends.


8 ) What are your turn on and Turn off?
Turn ons include intelligent conversations, being a geek, a women who is
smart. sense of humor. Turn offs include rude people, sarcasm, mean
people.


9)Can you Love this Lady?
Yes I can!


10)Would you hit your Lady wth any Reasons?
I would never hit any woman or any man for that matter. I'm non
violent.


11)Do you have a Kids?
No. But I want kids.


12)Do you want some Kids in the Future?
Yes!


13)Like How Many Kids do you want?
2 to 4.


14)Why are you single?
In the area where I live the women don't want kids, they just want sex.


15)What is have you experience when U have been single?
I keep myself happy with my friends when I am single.


16)Does Distance and Age Matters to you most?
No. Love matters most.


17)Are you Looking for a Tug or someone who Loves going to Club,and
who as tattoos?
No, I want a woman who wants a family.


18 ) What is Love to you?
Love means to give yourself completely to another person. To give
yourself and your heart.


19)How do you treat your Lady?
I show her I love her by taking care of her. I treat her right. I earn
an income from job and provide for her and the kids.


20)Do you Have faith?
I am a Christian. I go to church on Sunday.


21)Are you religion?
Yes.


22)What Church do you attend to?
Assembly of God.


23)Do you Love Public Intimacy?
I am not afraid to show the world that I love my woman.


24)What do you Like and What you dont Like?
I like good food, movies, music, books, hikes in the mountains. I don't
like spicy food, scary movies, winter.


25)Whats your Favourite Food and whats your favourite Movies and Colors?
My favorite food is pepperoni pizza. My favorite movies are Logans,
Run, Blade Runner. My favorite color is purple.


26)When do you Start this Online Dating Atmosphere??
I started looking online for a date in the past year.


I hope we can start a new life together.

Again her reply. Edited for brevity. It's well over 500 words.

You're the one who makes me beautiful. You're the one who makes mestrong. You're the one who makes me so important; you're everything tome.How lucky I am to find a man like you. Thank God above us! Honey, I promise I will compensate you one day with the thing that you want the most.All that I can offer you is a family. A family that belongs to us; a family where we can share our ups and down and stay together till the day we die. Honey, that's all I can give ... I hope you like it,because I really wish that you were near me.if I can be your wife and your children's mum then this would make me proud for the next 50 or 60years. Remember, you need to take care of me for 50 or 60 years and so you've got to take good care of yourself to do it.Dear ....., you're the only one that I want.
Yours Dear
Debby

Lots of back and forth. This scammer likes lots of words. No way I'm gonna post them all here. Last one. I wrote back saying I was just yanking their chain.


My Love you can send the money to my granny information Ok.. and we can get the money easier through western union money transfer OK. that is the only way we can get money easily ok So the money can be safe Ok.

NAME:: SALIS OLA

COUNTRY:: NIGERIA

STATE:: LAGOS

CITY:: BARIGA

ZIPCODE: 23401


This is my granny info needed to send the money to through western union money transfer ok.. and honey I want you to try and send the money today Ok.. so i can get the money tommorow so i can get my passport renew and my granny can get the Loan for my Plane ticket Ok and i want you to email me your nearest airport ok and by saturday i will email you my flight schedule to know the actual date and time i will arrive Ok I Love you so Much

your One Love
Debby

NightwishFan
March 4th, 2011, 06:08 AM
I used to reply to scammers a few years ago. I would tell them I am a member of interpol and that we arrested anyone in contact with them for questioning and have our eye on the internet cafe where the illegal posts came from. :D

It is fun.. once. Also juvenile and a waste of keypresses. Though granted wasting their time is probably for the good of all. :P

TeoBigusGeekus
March 4th, 2011, 11:50 AM
Long read but a good laugh. (http://www.419eater.com/html/joyce_ozioma.htm)

andymorton
March 4th, 2011, 03:48 PM
Long read but a good laugh. (http://www.419eater.com/html/joyce_ozioma.htm)

Arthur Dent!:lolflag:

NCLI
March 4th, 2011, 04:47 PM
Long read but a good laugh. (http://www.419eater.com/html/joyce_ozioma.htm)

That is so awesome! I wonder how many people she hired to help her write xD

Megaptera
March 4th, 2011, 06:38 PM
Does somebody want to transfer millions of dollars into your account?
Does someone want to pay you to cash cheques and send them the money?
Met a new friend/penpal on a friendship/dating site who's asking you for money?
Has a dying person contacted you wanting your help to give his money to charity?
Have you sold an item and are asked to accept a payment larger than the item amount?

Plenty more fun to be had with similar postings here: http://www.419eater.com/index.php

Quote"So what is scambaiting? Well, put simply, you enter into a dialogue with scammers, simply to waste their time and resources. Whilst you are doing this, you will be helping to keep the scammers away from real potential victims and screwing around with the minds of deserving thieves.

It doesn't matter if you are new to this sport or a hardened veteran; if you are wasting the time of a scammer, or frustrating them in any way well that's good enough for us, and we would welcome you to join with our now very large community."

DZ*
March 4th, 2011, 09:30 PM
Any idea why these scam emails omit spaces between punctuation marks,like this.It's almost like they're really trying hard to stand out from anything even remotely legitimate.Some of these scams are a bit more elaborate,e.g.one of my friends from Russia had a protracted email exchange with his other friend (or so he thought) whose yahoo email account was stolen.They got him to believe that his friend was in some kind of trouble and of course needs to borrow some cash.Because of the "urgency" of the situation, my friend lost his marbles and it almost worked if not for the silly punctuation.

MechaMechanism
March 5th, 2011, 01:37 AM
Plenty more fun to be had with similar postings here: http://www.419eater.com/index.php

Quote"So what is scambaiting? Well, put simply, you enter into a dialogue with scammers, simply to waste their time and resources. Whilst you are doing this, you will be helping to keep the scammers away from real potential victims and screwing around with the minds of deserving thieves.

It doesn't matter if you are new to this sport or a hardened veteran; if you are wasting the time of a scammer, or frustrating them in any way well that's good enough for us, and we would welcome you to join with our now very large community."
Interesting. Thanks for the link.

NightwishFan
March 5th, 2011, 01:58 AM
I should mention my fake name while scambaiting was The Lord Roger Mortimer. :D

ki4jgt
March 5th, 2011, 02:05 AM
I've actually done this with bots on yahoo messenger. I sat and sent the same message for an entire hour. Each time I got different responses. offers for free access to adult sites, camera access. I one considered making a plugin for empathy to allow the user to enter the user name of these bots and then the script would spam the bot. :-) Probably do no good, but it'd make me feel better knowing I was wasting their Internet bandwidth. (Especially with all those users doing it at once.)

Khakilang
March 5th, 2011, 04:56 AM
Never gone far to that rabbit hole. I just mark it as scam and exit. I don't have time to play game with them.

lisati
March 5th, 2011, 05:03 AM
I've actually done this with bots on yahoo messenger. I sat and sent the same message for an entire hour. Each time I got different responses. offers for free access to adult sites, camera access. I one considered making a plugin for empathy to allow the user to enter the user name of these bots and then the script would spam the bot. :-) Probably do no good, but it'd make me feel better knowing I was wasting their Internet bandwidth. (Especially with all those users doing it at once.)

It can backfire: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blue_Frog

concernedinus
March 8th, 2011, 12:00 AM
Hey MechaMechanic,
Wow.... she must be cheating on me. I've been talking to the same girl for about 2 weeks. First it was medicine for "Granny", then it she was looking for money to renew her passport, most recently is was money for food for granny and now she is wanting a calling card. Lives in Bariga, Lagos, Nigeria.
I'll be even willing to bet that she calls you "babe" in about every message if you IM her.
Did she send you any picture of herself. I have about 10 that she sent me. Her message she sent was nearly word for word included some of the exact same phrases.

Here is the first one I got from her:

Hello,

thanks for the mail.How are you doing today? i guess anyway you
doing fine ...I just want to tell you more about me.I will like to get to
know all about you as well.. I am a single girl,am ready for serious relationship but looking for a true
love you could be the one of my heart after i receive your reply.I
want you to know am new to this Online dating,..I Have been Hurt many times and i don't want to get
hurt again,but it's what's in the beginning that counts"Now I know a question
will come to your mind,Why is she Single?well it wasn't my fault,I used to
have a boyfriend but I broke up with him,I caught him on bed with my house
maid,you know how that is,it's a very embarrassing,lol. and that Make me
Feel Sad and I don't think I can be Love anymore. But I have to give things a
try Just to know where it will lead to...so this led me to break up with
him,was I right by that decision?I seek for a complete honest man,who will
come home to me,love me,adore me,a strong man with a strong heart who will
want our relationship to last forever,a compassionate man,one with good
heart and know how to handle matters,I want a lover not a fighter,lol I am
committed life to living to the fullest and in growing as a person.My family
has always been very caring and supportive of my dreams and ambitions that I
have challenged myself with.I am a Orphan,I was born on the june of 7 1981
at Florida, My dad is from Florida and My Mom is from Nigeria,I
don't know the Relatives of my Father cos I choose to the Citizen of
Nigeria,I do Live with My Parent in state and we Live in a Happily
Family..not knowing i will lost them..before they died in Auto Accident,I am
the Only Child of my Parent..I am 9yrs when my Parent Was dead..It make me
Feel so Sad and Cry any day i remember My parent Dead and Since when I lost
my Parent things have been going to hard for me and also i do not have
nobody to take Good care of me,,Then my granny In Nigeria now came to state
to Pick me Up.So i do not have any Option than to go back with my Granny In
Nigeria for a Proper Care and support cos I have to Plan my Future and Have
a Stable Life.I Just finish Studies,I am Searching for a Job.. I do Study
accountant and I have My masters degree in it.. I believe In God and I have
faith that with Him all things are Possible, Am looking for a man that can
make me happy and be there for me through thick and thin and that can help
me find the treasure that i have lost and will see me through all my ups and
down, a man that is loving caring,understanding,that will respect my opinion
and most of all that play the game of love...I am Looking for a real and
serious relationship that will last for ever... I believe that Distance is
Nothing But Love Matters Most to me....Its a pretty good here in Lagos,
Nigeria anyway but its a little bit sunny and I don't have Choice had to live
here like that...SORRY MY MAIL IS MEEK..I wasn't sure how to elaborate about
myself I envisioned myself opening hundreds of email from Man who think
I'm their catch. I am picky about who I open myself up to. I have a good
feeling about you!!! , upon your request and respond to you how ever often
you like.Hmmmm I guess enough is being said about me.That all what I can
say for now and I will be Looking to hear back from you so I can answer the
Questions I ask from you in return... I cant wait to hear back from you and
Knows where this will lead to.... Thank you and have a Nice Moment..p.s:
Please send me some pics of you if you got any then i can't wait to hear
back from you...
Best Regard..

(END OF MESSAGE)
I'll be posting as much info as I have on her and who she wanted the money sent to on as many sites like this that I can.
Thanks for posting about this in the first place. I only found it by typing in "Granny" "Lagos" on Google.
Drop her like a bad habit

ki4jgt
March 8th, 2011, 01:53 AM
It can backfire: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blue_Frog

The model's all wrong. NO MEMBER LIST. Allow the user to install the software to their client, allow the clients to connect to one another and then allow ten random email addresses to send the same warning message. 1 spam attempt, will get 10 messages back from 10 random people.



Dear Sir or Ma'am,

Your email was recently received by XXXX (person's email who was originally SPAMMED) It has been marked as SPAM and is unwanted by this user. If you continue to send SPAM to this user, you will continue to receive 10 emails, for every 1 email you send which contains SPAM.


I know at first, it could offer them more emails, but after a lot of people send emails to one particular SPAM bot, their bandwidth has to degrade a bit. Futhermore the program could also forward a copy of the email (Including the header) to the proper government agency which handles SPAM

cgroza
March 8th, 2011, 02:50 AM
a waste of keypresses. :P
The economical crisis made us save even the keypresses!

ki4jgt
March 8th, 2011, 03:11 AM
The model's all wrong. NO MEMBER LIST. Allow the user to install the software to their client, allow the clients to connect to one another and then allow ten random email addresses to send the same warning message. 1 spam attempt, will get 10 messages back from 10 random people.



I know at first, it could offer them more emails, but after a lot of people send emails to one particular SPAM bot, their bandwidth has to degrade a bit. Futhermore the program could also forward a copy of the email (Including the header) to the proper government agency which handles SPAM

Better yet, the user's own personal address could be used to send 10 emails to the company.

tgalati4
March 8th, 2011, 06:03 AM
I guess Bob, the PaperClip, doesn't teach punctuation.

ki4jgt
March 8th, 2011, 10:28 AM
LOL, I used to be a grammer nazi in HS. I even out grammered my english teachers. They still have poems I wrote they're using to teach other kids in school. I've had kids tell me bout em. I just don't like looking professional all the time. It throws my mojo off. LOL I think I've put enough gramatical errors in here. :-)

I would think anyone else on the Internet would want the same. No one I've ever met online is grammer nazi.