A strange fact about theses forums

[tribaal]

I just noticed the Ubuntu forums are vBulletin boards... which is closed source software :rolleyes:

Just a funny fact ;)

- trib'

[dlai]

hehe...

[MenZa]

I've always known -- I didn't know it was closed-source though (speaking of which, how can php pages be closed-source?)

[mostwanted]

I've always known -- I didn't know it was closed-source though (speaking of which, how can php pages be closed-source?)

You might want to study up on what open source is...

http://www.opensource.org/docs/definition.php

[mjm115]

vBulletin is very robust, and although they charge for it, it's powered by php and MySQL. I have a personal preference for phpBB, but the software that provides these forums is very nice.

[tribaal]

Don't get me wrong, I'm not complaining :)

I find this piece of software absolutely brillant, and I would gladly pay for it myself if I ever need such functionalities.

Just thought it was funny for a distro that praises software libre so much ;)

- trib'

[Master Shake]

This topic has been discussed ad infinitum on these forums in the past.

The reason they run it is because the software does what the admins want, and does it well.

Doing a good job, or creating a good product is always worthy to be rewarded.

[prizrak]

This topic has been discussed ad infinitum on these forums in the past.

The reason they run it is because the software does what the admins want, and does it well.

Doing a good job, or creating a good product is always worthy to be rewarded.
To add to that, it is also the software that the admin knew how to use already, so instead of learning something else he just used this.

[OffHand]

I have always been a happy camper with phpBB (free) on my own forum, but this forum is also solid.
I don't mind paying for good software myself and as a matter of fact I don't even mind closed source. For me the freedom of choise is what it is all about.

[briancurtin]

its not strange at all...

what works is what works.

[aysiu]

I'm glad people are being civil about it this time. It hasn't always been this way:

ubuntu is a free/open source soft, why not the board is one of the open source also?? (http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=23695)
vBulletin == proprietary (http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=74235)

[mstlyevil]

UbuntuGeek is looking into alternatives now because Vbulletin is a resource hog. If he finds something that provides the functions we need and uses less resources, there may be a switch in the future.

[jobezone]

Warning, rant ahead
I guess it's to continue the tradition... Canonical's "launchpad" collection of tools are also proprietary software...

[helpme]

Warning, rant ahead
I guess it's to continue the tradition... Canonical's "launchpad" collection of tools are also proprietary software...
Just wanted to mention that Canonical have said about 657 times in the last month alone that they will make launchpad open source.

[engla]

So is phpBB better in terms of resources? These forums are growing fast and I understand that performance is more and more important. What does other very large forums use? Any specific examples?


Just wanted to mention that Canonical have said about 657 times in the last month alone that they will make launchpad open source.
Well we should nag them all the time. This is very important to "Canonical's users" so they have to respond.

[helpme]

Well we should nag them all the time. This is very important to "Canonical's users" so they have to respond.
My point was, they already responded, again and again and again.

[openmind]

To add to that, it is also the software that the admin knew how to use already, so instead of learning something else he just used this. Oh The Irony!

Exactly the argument used by Windows devotees!](*,)

[aysiu]

I hope anyone who feels like judging Canonical or the Ubuntu Forums for using proprietary software is part of the 4% of users here who have completely Free Ubuntu installations. (http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=95718)

[prizrak]

Oh The Irony!

Exactly the argument used by Windows devotees!](*,)
Not really, Windows devotees tend to claim that Windows is easier to use. They rarely say "We think Windows is easier for us because we are used to that". If they said that no one would have a problem ;)

[aysiu]

Not really, Windows devotees tend to claim that Windows is easier to use. They rarely say "We think Windows is easier for us because we are used to that". If they said that no one would have a problem ;) I'm with prizrak on this one.

Windows "devotees" tend to keep insisting that Windows is easier to use, has no problems, is totally intuitive to new users, etc.

I've never heard a Windows zealot say, "Yeah, I just like Windows because I'm used to it and don't feel like learning something new. Ubuntu's great."

[YourSurrogateGod]

As far as I'm concerned, if it gives options to people, would it matter if something is either open source or close source? I prefer Ubuntu over XP, but if someone needs XP, then it's their choice. It's about giving folks a choice as to what they want to do in life.

[htinn]

You guys ever look at SMF?

http://www.simplemachines.org/

[briancurtin]

I hope anyone who feels like judging Canonical or the Ubuntu Forums for using proprietary software is part of the 4% of users here who have completely Free Ubuntu installations. (http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=95718)
zing

thats a zing against probably everyone in this thread haha

[TheCaptain]

Hehe, i'm going to stick my chin out and say that Ubuntu, Linux and completely free does not belong in the same sentence.

And aysiu is right, windows users don't say that Linux is great, they don't know if it is or not, heck, most of them hardly know if windows is great, they wouldn't notice if you replaced it as long as they have "start" "ie" and "outlook express".

Face it, most of the windows users are no different than someone who would get confused if they got a new remote where it said stand by instead of off on the remote.

Thing is, they got this on their computer, they got to know it, they will stick with it, any change, good or bad is always bad to someone who doesn't want change.

[jobezone]

I hope anyone who feels like judging Canonical or the Ubuntu Forums for using proprietary software is part of the 4% of users here who have completely Free Ubuntu installations. (http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=95718)
You really can't compare both. Having some proprietary codec in anyone's computer isn't the same as the possibility for a proprietary infrastructure for building/translating/coordinating software becoming popular.
It's good that Canonical have promissed to open it up.

[TheCaptain]

You really can't compare both. Having some proprietary codec in anyone's computer isn't the same as the possibility for a proprietary infrastructure for building/translating/coordinating software becoming popular.
It's good that Canonical have promissed to open it up.

Yes it is, if you choose Ubuntu and install that proprietary crap you have defeated the very goal of Ubuntu.

You want to buy into that, cool, but in no way are you running a free OS if you do, not that Ubuntu is inherently free either, nothing GPL'd really is.

[Y4CcduyctJL3]

I hope anyone who feels like judging Canonical or the Ubuntu Forums for using proprietary software is part of the 4% of users here who have completely Free Ubuntu installations. (http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=95718)


'lax buddy. :p i don't think anyone was being judgmental. it's just amusing is all. there is a certain irony about a community based on a philosophy of open software using a proprietary system.

[matthew]

This is a really old thread to resurrect on a topic that has been discussed more completely elsewhere...see here for the official forum statement on this issue. http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=176622

I'm going to close this particular thread now.