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Raindance
February 15th, 2011, 08:19 PM
Hey all,

So, I've been playing around with various distributions including Arch Linux, openSuse, and Ubuntu with it's derivatives. So far, I feel that Ubuntu flows the best out of them all, offering the best mix of user-friendliness, eye-candy, and performance.

HOWEVER, I really like doing things from the ground up and like having complete control over what I am using/spending resources on. OpenSuse was very attractive to me because of it's [URL="http://www.susestudio.com/"]Suse Studio/URL] which allows you to start with a basic system and add, manually, each and every package you want so you get exactly what you want.

Does Ubuntu offer any system like this? Or, alternately, is there a "barebone" download in which you get basically a command line with networking and can apt-get all of the packages you want?

I appreciate your time!
-Raindance

PaulReaver
February 15th, 2011, 08:26 PM
yep there's the mini.iso that's the net install disc... (i do this one) :)


and there is also the alternate.iso
if you press f6 when the menu comes up you can install a minimal system

you'll find them on the ubuntu release page
http://releases.ubuntu.com/

hope it helps

snowpine
February 15th, 2011, 08:26 PM
Here is a good guide to building a custom Ubuntu system from the ground up using the minimal install CD:

http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/minimal

Raindance
February 15th, 2011, 08:48 PM
Hey thanks for the quick replies!

If I go with the minimal install, I will still be able to install, say, XFCE or Gnome if I choose, correct?

I am note really worried about my hardware, just mostly I want to control the packages I have installed. I will probably use Gnome(maybe KDE or XFCE haven't decided), so this is not an issue.

If I chose Gnome over IceWM, are there any commands I'd need to change? For instance, I assume it's something like this at command line;

sudo apt-get gnome-desktop
startx

Would "startx" start up Gnome or KDE just like the other?

Thanks!

snowpine
February 15th, 2011, 08:56 PM
The correct syntax is:


sudo apt-get install nameofpackage

You can install either gnome-core or gnome-desktop-environment. Check out these links to see the difference of what's included:

http://packages.ubuntu.com/maverick/gnome-core
http://packages.ubuntu.com/maverick/gnome-desktop-environment

ps: 'startx' will start whatever desktop environment is installed, so yes, it will work with Gnome. :)

PaulReaver
February 15th, 2011, 09:00 PM
Hey thanks for the quick replies!

If I go with the minimal install, I will still be able to install, say, XFCE or Gnome if I choose, correct?

Yep :) as long as you can set up internet access from the command line...



If I chose Gnome over IceWM, are there any commands I'd need to change? For instance, I assume it's something like this at command line;

Would "startx" start up Gnome or KDE just like the other?


you'll defo need to install xinit.... for startx

you could install a login manager like gdm kdm or xdm
I'm sure there are others on the forums that'll know in more detail.

Raindance
February 15th, 2011, 10:33 PM
Awesome thanks for the help! One more question; would JeOS Ubuntu be a decent starting point? I'm having a hard time getting my laptop to connect to our network manually...think I'm going to need more than the tiny one given!

Thanks!

snowpine
February 15th, 2011, 10:39 PM
I do not think JeOS is necessary for the typical user. See the link in post #3 for more details on my suggestion, the Ubuntu mini.iso. As the tutorial mentions, you'll need a wired internet connection with a supported Ethernet card. :)

Raindance
February 15th, 2011, 10:47 PM
Very cool, thanks for the help everyone. I wired in to my connection and got everything turning nicely.

Appreciate the time, look forward to hanging around!

mörgæs
February 15th, 2011, 11:22 PM
Though you have the system running already, maybe these will be interesting to you:

http://andyduffell.com/techblog/?p=689
http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1155961