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fdhealy4
February 14th, 2011, 10:19 PM
There use to be a way to install Ubuntu within Windows and run Ubuntu just like any other windows app. I don't see that option anymore. Please advise if it still exist or not and if so a link to the download.

Thanks Dale):P

sydbat
February 14th, 2011, 10:25 PM
There use to be a way to install Ubuntu within Windows and run Ubuntu just like any other windows app. I don't see that option anymore. Please advise if it still exist or not and if so a link to the download.

Thanks Dale):PWhile in Windows, pop the Ubuntu CD in and let it "auto start". It should give you the option of installing via 'WUBI'.

If it does not "auto start", go into your 'Computer' and find the DVD / CD drive and open the Ubuntu CD from there.

Trooper_Max
February 14th, 2011, 10:25 PM
That option is called Wubi (Windows UBuntu Installer), and it is already included in the ISO you download!

I usually just use 7-zip to extract the ISO to a folder. You'll see wubi.exe in that folder. Then I move the ISO to that folder so that it is in the same directory as wubi (this way it won't try to download it again). Then I run wubi and install it. Hope that helps!

For more info check here:
https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wubi

~Troop

Frogs Hair
February 14th, 2011, 10:26 PM
Ubuntu won't start from windows . but you can choose it at boot.

http://www.ubuntu.com/desktop/get-ubuntu/windows-installer
https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WubiGuide

NightwishFan
February 14th, 2011, 10:26 PM
Here is a link to the download! :)
http://www.ubuntu.com/desktop/get-ubuntu/windows-installer

Edit: Oh I see, nvm, was mistaken. You probably should use something such as Virtualbox for that purpose. I remember another application that did this, but I do not recall the name.

Virtualbox: http://www.virtualbox.org/

fdhealy4
February 15th, 2011, 01:21 AM
If I use virtualbox to run Ubuntu within Windows am I isolated from windows keyloggers and other win malware tracking my actions?

NightwishFan
February 15th, 2011, 01:25 AM
I think in some cases possible, but no not entirely, as Windows is still running.

sydbat
February 15th, 2011, 01:28 AM
If I use virtualbox to run Ubuntu within Windows am I isolated from windows keyloggers and other win malware tracking my actions?No. You will have to do all the things you would normally do when running Windows, like installing A/V (http://www.microsoft.com/security_essentials/), enabling the firewall, etc. Ubuntu will be effected by anything that effects Windows.

fdhealy4
February 15th, 2011, 01:38 AM
Thanks Everyone,

I'll just get another laptop dedicated to Ubuntu.

Dale:p

linuxman94
February 15th, 2011, 01:42 AM
@sydbat

Ubuntu is not affected by windows malware or viruses even though it is running in windows. Therefore it is not necessary to install anti virus in ubuntu.

sydbat
February 15th, 2011, 03:10 PM
@sydbat

Ubuntu is not affected by windows malware or viruses even though it is running in windows. Therefore it is not necessary to install anti virus in ubuntu.What I wrote concerned putting A/V etc on Windows.

The OP was talking about a wubi install, then asked if running Ubuntu in a VM would eliminate Windows malware interacting with Ubuntu. It does not. If Windows picks up malware, it will negatively effect a VM install.

Regardless of what OS the host is, if the file system becomes corrupted (for whatever reason), it will destroy the VM. This is because the VM is dependant on the host system...and if something happens to the host system, it will bork the VM (which is what a wubi install is).

Paqman
February 15th, 2011, 03:23 PM
Regardless of what OS the host is, if the file system becomes corrupted (for whatever reason), it will destroy the VM. This is because the VM is dependant on the host system...and if something happens to the host system, it will bork the VM (which is what a wubi install is).

Wubi isn't a VM. It runs entirely separately from Windows and accesses the hardware directly, it just does it from a loopmounted virtual partition. You are quite correct that it relies on the integrity of the filesystem it resides on though.

sydbat
February 15th, 2011, 03:31 PM
Wubi isn't a VM. It runs entirely separately from Windows and accesses the hardware directly, it just does it from a loopmounted virtual partition. You are quite correct that it relies on the integrity of the filesystem it resides on though.True enough, because it can boot separately from the host (whereas a VM can only boot while the host is running).

Semantics...):P

Paqman
February 15th, 2011, 03:36 PM
True enough, because it can boot separately from the host (whereas a VM can only boot while the host is running).

Semantics...):P

It's more about the fact that VMs operate on an abstracted layer of virtual hardware. They don't control the hardware themselves. Wubi is just a clever piece of on-disk trickery done to avoid repartitioning, it doesn't have anything in common with VMs at all. It's essentially a dual-boot.

sydbat
February 15th, 2011, 04:10 PM
It's more about the fact that VMs operate on an abstracted layer of virtual hardware. They don't control the hardware themselves. Wubi is just a clever piece of on-disk trickery done to avoid repartitioning, it doesn't have anything in common with VMs at all. It's essentially a dual-boot.You are correct. Did a little more reading and learned something new today (which is what should happen). Thanks.