EasyBCD win7 unbuntu 10.10

[kbz1960]

Hi, I have everything installed following this guide. I read ahead and planned for this.

http://www.linuxbsdos.com/2010/11/04/how-to-dual-boot-ubuntu-10-10-and-windows-7/

I paid attention to this part in paticular.



Note: It has been reported that Windows 7 tends to mess with the GRUB menu after a Windows update/upgrade. To avoid any issue that might arise from that, you need to install GRUB to the boot partition of the Ubuntu installation, then use EasyBCD to edit the Windows boot menu and add an entry for Ubuntu. This method was used in how to dual-boot Fedora 14 and Windows 7 (http://www.linuxbsdos.com/2010/11/09/how-to-dual-boot-fedora-14-and-windows-7/).

So I followed these instructions


The next step relevant to this tutorial is the boot loader configuration step. The boot loader used by Fedora 14 is GRUB Legacy. By default, it is installed in the Master Boot Record (MBR). What we want to do here is install it some place else, and the best alternative location to install GRUB, the GRand Unified Bootloader, is in the /boot partition (/dev/sda3) of the Fedora installation. The reason behind this choice of location is this: If it is installed in the usual location, Windows will likely overwrite parts of it the next time you upgrade/update Windows.
and installed GRUB in my /dev/sda2 which I made my /boot partition.

Following the directions in that link for EasyBCD knowing that Ubuntu 10.10 uses GRUB 2 and not legacy thinking it would still work the same.


When in the Add New Entry tab, click on the Linux tab as shown. The two entries that we need to tweak here are in the Type and Device dropdown menus. Since Fedora 14 uses GRUB Legacy as the boot loader, select that in the Type menu. Then select the partition you installed GRUB into from the Device menu. In this example, GRUB (Legacy) was installed on the third primary partition, /dev/sda3, which is the /boot partition of the Fedora installation. With those completed, click on Add Entry, then on the Edit Menu tab to see what the new Windows boot menu looks like.

When I substitue GRUB 2 in place of GRUB (legacy) in the type box then the "device" button isn't clickable to direct it to where I have GRUB installed to add it.

What am I doing wrong or is not possible? If not possible they need to change the directions.

Thanks

[wilee-nilee]

Honestly unless you have to use easybcd it is a waste of time. Having a boot partition is not needed grub-legacy needs to be messed with grub2 is rather automatic.

You may need to try the easybcd forums for help, a few use it on this forum, but not many know the whole setup well enough to help you, probably. If you might consider that easybcd is not needed post the boot script in my signature link and wrap it in code tags as suggested in the signature.

[kbz1960]

Well it went with just letting Grub do it's thing the first time and then I couldn't boot into windows.

[wilee-nilee]

Well it went with just letting Grub do it's thing the first time and then I couldn't boot into windows.

Okay but you did not ask for help in your own thread in getting grub to work. does this make sense it may have just been something such as not resizing the Windows first and making sure it reboots. As it is I don't know enough about easybcd to help. If you want to run grub2 I can help, just giving you this option.

Personally I don't care what you use to boot with, I was just trying to let you know the limitations for help with easybcd on the UF.

[wilee-nilee]

Well it went with just letting Grub do it's thing the first time and then I couldn't boot into windows.

Okay but you did not ask for help in your own thread in getting grub to work. Does this make sense it may have just been something such as not resizing the Windows first and making sure it reboots. As it is I don't know enough about easybcd to help. If you want to run grub2 I can help, just giving you this option.

Personally I don't care what you use to boot with, I was just trying to let you know the limitations for help with easybcd on the UF.

[kbz1960]

Okay but you did not ask for help in your own thread in getting grub to work. Does this make sense it may have just been something such as not resizing the Windows first and making sure it reboots. As it is I don't know enough about easybcd to help. If you want to run grub2 I can help, just giving you this option.

Personally I don't care what you use to boot with, I was just trying to let you know the limitations for help with easybcd on the UF.

Din't mean anything by it but I've read so much about dual booting with win7 and linux not getting along and I experienced it. It was a new install of Ubuntu so I found the links and just redid it that way to avoid such problems. I even redid my windows to start all over.

I'll head on over to the easybcd forum and see if they have any help there if not I'd like your help if you're willing.

Thanks for the replies.

[wilee-nilee]

Din't mean anything by it but I've read so much about dual booting with win7 and linux not getting along and I experienced it. It was a new install of Ubuntu so I found the links and just redid it that way to avoid such problems. I even redid my windows to start all over.

I'll head on over to the easybcd forum and see if they have any help there if not I'd like your help if you're willing.

Thanks for the replies.

No problem, there are very little problems with grub2 and windows here is my set up W7, and 3 Linux installs, on one HD, all booted with grub2. You will see problems, I mean who is posting success, on problems, same thing at the esaybcd forum they are biased to easybcd.

I have to read multiple papers today and write a paper so I will try to help If I can, but there are others who know this stuff, many actually.:)

[kbz1960]

No problem, there are very little problems with grub2 and windows here is my set up W7, and 3 Linux installs, on one HD, all booted with grub2. You will see problems, I mean who is posting success, on problems, same thing at the esaybcd forum they are biased to easybcd.

I have to read multiple papers today and write a paper so I will try to help If I can, but there are others who know this stuff, many actually.:)

Well life happened for awhile LOL and I just posted over there. So since I've all ready installed by the directions in the link would I have to start all over again? When I let GRUB take over the booting last time I was able to get windows a couple times but the next time I tried it wouldn't start and I had to try the repair for windows and that wasn't working so I just reinstalled everything. I had just backed up so was not a big deal except for the time it takes.

[wilee-nilee]

Well life happened for awhile LOL and I just posted over there. So since I've all ready installed by the directions in the link would I have to start all over again? When I let GRUB take over the booting last time I was able to get windows a couple times but the next time I tried it wouldn't start and I had to try the repair for windows and that wasn't working so I just reinstalled everything. I had just backed up so was not a big deal except for the time it takes.

Generally this is a fairly easy fix without reinstalling, so from a booted live Ubuntu cd or thumbdrive lets see the bootscript read out; in my signature just click on it and follow the instructions. Come back to the thread and click on the (#) in the reply panel this makes code tags paste all the text in between.

Do this so we can see what is where.

So when you boot the live Ubuntu cd go to system-admin-gparted, open it and take a screen shot and post it as well. It will also be helpful to see this and if there are any flags in gparted on the windows partitions. Load the image using the paper-clip in the reply panel to upload the image, and place it in the reply. I'm looking to make sure that Windows can be read by Ubuntu, and is not in need of a chkdsk.

I got all my reading done and my paper written so I'm just hanging again.

[kbz1960]

Boot Info Script 0.55 dated February 15th, 2010

============================= Boot Info Summary: ==============================

=> Windows is installed in the MBR of /dev/sdb
=> Syslinux is installed in the MBR of /dev/sdc

sdb1: __________________________________________________ _______________________

File system: ntfs
Boot sector type: Windows Vista/7
Boot sector info: No errors found in the Boot Parameter Block.
Operating System: Windows 7
Boot files/dirs: /bootmgr /Boot/BCD /Windows/System32/winload.exe

sdb2: __________________________________________________ _______________________

File system: ext4
Boot sector type: -
Boot sector info:
Operating System:
Boot files/dirs: /grub/grub.cfg /grub/core.img

sdb3: __________________________________________________ _______________________

File system: ntfs
Boot sector type: Windows Vista/7
Boot sector info: No errors found in the Boot Parameter Block.
Operating System:
Boot files/dirs:

sdc1: __________________________________________________ _______________________

File system: vfat
Boot sector type: Unknown
Boot sector info: No errors found in the Boot Parameter Block.
Operating System:
Boot files/dirs:

=========================== Drive/Partition Info: =============================

Drive: sdb ___________________ __________________________________________________ ___

Disk /dev/sdb: 250.1 GB, 250059350016 bytes
255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 30401 cylinders, total 488397168 sectors
Units = sectors of 1 * 512 = 512 bytes
Sector size (logical/physical): 512 bytes / 512 bytes

Partition Boot Start End Size Id System

/dev/sdb1 * 2,048 143,362,047 143,360,000 7 HPFS/NTFS
/dev/sdb2 143,362,048 286,722,047 143,360,000 83 Linux
/dev/sdb3 286,722,048 488,396,799 201,674,752 7 HPFS/NTFS


Drive: sdc ___________________ __________________________________________________ ___

Disk /dev/sdc: 2055 MB, 2055019008 bytes
255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 249 cylinders, total 4013709 sectors
Units = sectors of 1 * 512 = 512 bytes
Sector size (logical/physical): 512 bytes / 512 bytes

Partition Boot Start End Size Id System

/dev/sdc1 * 63 4,013,708 4,013,646 6 FAT16


blkid -c /dev/null: __________________________________________________ __________

Device UUID TYPE LABEL

/dev/loop0 squashfs
/dev/sdb1 1DE8137C5FBBCB59 ntfs
/dev/sdb2 cae1e033-9c15-49c5-a41f-fcd4f0810611 ext4
/dev/sdb3 0325247F27F17AE0 ntfs
/dev/sdb: PTTYPE="dos"
/dev/sdc1 B096-D191 vfat PENDRIVE
/dev/sdc: PTTYPE="dos"
error: /dev/sda: No medium found

============================ "mount | grep ^/dev output: ===========================

Device Mount_Point Type Options

aufs / aufs (rw)
/dev/sdc1 /cdrom vfat (rw,relatime,fmask=0022,dmask=0022,codepage=cp437, iocharset=iso8859-1,shortname=mixed,errors=remount-ro)
/dev/loop0 /rofs squashfs (ro,noatime)


============================= sdb2/grub/grub.cfg: =============================

#
# DO NOT EDIT THIS FILE
#
# It is automatically generated by grub-mkconfig using templates
# from /etc/grub.d and settings from /etc/default/grub
#

### BEGIN /etc/grub.d/00_header ###
if [ -s $prefix/grubenv ]; then
set have_grubenv=true
load_env
fi
set default="0"
if [ "${prev_saved_entry}" ]; then
set saved_entry="${prev_saved_entry}"
save_env saved_entry
set prev_saved_entry=
save_env prev_saved_entry
set boot_once=true
fi

function savedefault {
if [ -z "${boot_once}" ]; then
saved_entry="${chosen}"
save_env saved_entry
fi
}

function recordfail {
set recordfail=1
if [ -n "${have_grubenv}" ]; then if [ -z "${boot_once}" ]; then save_env recordfail; fi; fi
}

function load_video {
insmod vbe
insmod vga
}

insmod part_msdos
insmod ext2
set root='(hd0,msdos6)'
search --no-floppy --fs-uuid --set 32d57514-c326-4924-b9c3-d72754331426
if loadfont /usr/share/grub/unicode.pf2 ; then
set gfxmode=640x480
load_video
insmod gfxterm
fi
terminal_output gfxterm
insmod part_msdos
insmod ext2
set root='(hd0,msdos2)'
search --no-floppy --fs-uuid --set cae1e033-9c15-49c5-a41f-fcd4f0810611
set locale_dir=($root)/grub/locale
set lang=en
insmod gettext
if [ "${recordfail}" = 1 ]; then
set timeout=-1
else
set timeout=10
fi
### END /etc/grub.d/00_header ###

### BEGIN /etc/grub.d/05_debian_theme ###
set menu_color_normal=white/black
set menu_color_highlight=black/light-gray
### END /etc/grub.d/05_debian_theme ###

### BEGIN /etc/grub.d/10_linux ###
menuentry 'Ubuntu, with Linux 2.6.35-22-generic' --class ubuntu --class gnu-linux --class gnu --class os {
recordfail
insmod part_msdos
insmod ext2
set root='(hd0,msdos2)'
search --no-floppy --fs-uuid --set cae1e033-9c15-49c5-a41f-fcd4f0810611
linux /vmlinuz-2.6.35-22-generic root=UUID=32d57514-c326-4924-b9c3-d72754331426 ro quiet splash
initrd /initrd.img-2.6.35-22-generic
}
menuentry 'Ubuntu, with Linux 2.6.35-22-generic (recovery mode)' --class ubuntu --class gnu-linux --class gnu --class os {
recordfail
insmod part_msdos
insmod ext2
set root='(hd0,msdos2)'
search --no-floppy --fs-uuid --set cae1e033-9c15-49c5-a41f-fcd4f0810611
echo 'Loading Linux 2.6.35-22-generic ...'
linux /vmlinuz-2.6.35-22-generic root=UUID=32d57514-c326-4924-b9c3-d72754331426 ro single
echo 'Loading initial ramdisk ...'
initrd /initrd.img-2.6.35-22-generic
}
### END /etc/grub.d/10_linux ###

### BEGIN /etc/grub.d/20_linux_xen ###
### END /etc/grub.d/20_linux_xen ###

### BEGIN /etc/grub.d/20_memtest86+ ###
menuentry "Memory test (memtest86+)" {
insmod part_msdos
insmod ext2
set root='(hd0,msdos2)'
search --no-floppy --fs-uuid --set cae1e033-9c15-49c5-a41f-fcd4f0810611
linux16 /memtest86+.bin
}
menuentry "Memory test (memtest86+, serial console 115200)" {
insmod part_msdos
insmod ext2
set root='(hd0,msdos2)'
search --no-floppy --fs-uuid --set cae1e033-9c15-49c5-a41f-fcd4f0810611
linux16 /memtest86+.bin console=ttyS0,115200n8
}
### END /etc/grub.d/20_memtest86+ ###

### BEGIN /etc/grub.d/30_os-prober ###
menuentry "Windows 7 (loader) (on /dev/sda1)" {
insmod part_msdos
insmod ntfs
set root='(hd0,msdos1)'
search --no-floppy --fs-uuid --set 1de8137c5fbbcb59
chainloader +1
}
### END /etc/grub.d/30_os-prober ###

### BEGIN /etc/grub.d/40_custom ###
# This file provides an easy way to add custom menu entries. Simply type the
# menu entries you want to add after this comment. Be careful not to change
# the 'exec tail' line above.
### END /etc/grub.d/40_custom ###

### BEGIN /etc/grub.d/41_custom ###
if [ -f $prefix/custom.cfg ]; then
source $prefix/custom.cfg;
fi
### END /etc/grub.d/41_custom ###

=================== sdb2: Location of files loaded by Grub: ===================


73.5GB: grub/core.img
73.5GB: grub/grub.cfg
73.4GB: initrd.img-2.6.35-22-generic
73.4GB: vmlinuz-2.6.35-22-generic
=========================== Unknown MBRs/Boot Sectors/etc =======================

Unknown BootLoader on sdc1

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00000030 4d 45 20 20 20 20 46 41 54 31 36 20 20 20 33 c9 |ME FAT16 3.|
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=======Devices which don't seem to have a corresponding hard drive==============

sda

[kbz1960]

If it would be easier I can just reinstall Ubuntu if you have a better way to install it. I would really like to check it out and see how it runs. Don't think you get a good idea of how it runs off of the live usb or running in a virtural machine or inside of windows.

[wilee-nilee]

If it would be easier I can just reinstall Ubuntu if you have a better way to install it. I would really like to check it out and see how it runs. Don't think you get a good idea of how it runs off of the live usb or running in a virtural machine or inside of windows.

Your missing the fstab in Ubuntu that is part of the boot, and may have gotten misplaced, I'm not sure how to slip that in.

So yeah a reinstall would be good delete that Ubuntu partition and make another ext4 leaving room for a swap if you want to hibernate in Ubuntu with gparted. The swap is another type of partition in the dropdown and should be equal to your ram. This will put you at the maximum of 4 primary partitions but in a workable setup.

I assume that since you installed before that you know to use the manual, set up.

Ask any more questions if needed. Windows looks good, no flags for work on it in gparted.

[kbz1960]

Huh, that's odd. When I partitioned I made
/dev/sda2 /boot
/dev/sda5 swap
/dev/sda6 /
/dev/sda7 /home.

It's bedtime for me so will have to wait until I get home from work tomorrow. I actually started out the first time following instructions for an 9. something version but didn't notice that until after I had it done. I have a data partion that I wanted to be able to use with Ubuntu also and that was part of the requirement.

If you have a better partioning scheme please let me know.


Thanks for all the help.

[wilee-nilee]

Huh, that's odd. When I partitioned I made
/dev/sda2 /boot
/dev/sda5 swap
/dev/sda6 /
/dev/sda7 /home.

It's bedtime for me so will have to wait until I get home from work tomorrow. I actually started out the first time following instructions for an 9. something version but didn't notice that until after I had it done. I have a data partion that I wanted to be able to use with Ubuntu also and that was part of the requirement.

If you have a better partioning scheme please let me know.


Thanks for all the help.

I will not be available tomorrow very much but there are many others that can help.

So the script only shows the sdb HD, and a sdc, I assume the sdc is a thumb or pendrive to boot with I believe.

With what you show me I see two NTFS sdb1 would be C, sdb2 is the Ubuntu, and sdb3 is a NTFS probably the data. From looking at the partitions from the script and gparted.

When you boot with a thumb sometimes it switches how the partitions are read, so the sdb is probably actually sda, without the thumb booting.

[kbz1960]

Can a mode mark this as dead cause I reinstalled and now have another problem that I will start a new thread on.

Thanks

[Pillars of Creation]

First off I just want to say that setting up a dual-boot between Windows 7 and Ubuntu with Easy BCD is a snap.

But if you’re going to use Easy BCD you want documentation that is written for it. See below.

Ubuntu Easy BCD documentation:
http://neosmart.net/wiki/display/EBCD/Ubuntu

“Note: It has been reported that Windows 7 tends to mess with the GRUB menu after a Windows update/upgrade. To avoid any issue that might arise from that, you need to install GRUB to the boot partition of the Ubuntu installation, then use EasyBCD to edit the Windows boot menu and add an entry for Ubuntu. This method was used in how to dual-boot Fedora 14 and Windows 7.”

All of this is basically incorrect. With Ubuntu 10.04 or 10.10 you want to install GRUB-2 to the MBR at the front of the hard drive, not the partition on which Ubuntu is installed to. Also note that these versions of Ubuntu use GRUB-2. This makes setting up the option to boot into Ubuntu in Easy BCD exceedingly easy because you don’t have to know what partition Ubuntu is it. Easy BCD picks up the config file from the first Ubuntu with GRUB-2 that it runs into.

On the other hand Fedora uses GRUB-1. It is also easy to set up but in this case you do have to know the partition in which it is installed to when you make the option to boot into the OS in Easy BCD.

If you need help with Easy BCD post a question over at the NeoSmart Forums
http://neosmart.net/forums

[kbz1960]

Thanks, I got the dual boot thing down but don't think linux likes my laptop.